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karl 12
Heres a list of interesting films/documentaries about the UFO subject (feel free to add any).
Also theres a quote link below which has some very revealing UFO quotes from highly prominent and highly credible scientists,academics,politicians and high ranking military officials/Defense/NASA:

http://paradigmresearchgroup.org/QuotesPage.html

Cheers Karl

Films and documentaries:

The Disclosure Project:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...closure+project

(Very interesting) full two hour interview account:

Disclosure,part one:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=1

Disclosure,part two:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...mp;q=disclosure

Fastwalkers UFO documentary:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=1

UFOs The greatest story ever denied:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=0

John Greenewald Jr on government documentary evidence for UFOs:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=0

Richard Dolan on UFOs:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-19...q=richard+dolan
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-18...q=richard+dolan

Dan Ackroyd-UFOs unplugged:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...kroyd+unplugged

Out of the blue UFO documentary:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...out+of+the+blue

British UFO files:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=0

Black Box UFO Secrets documentary :
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=0

Rod Serling's 'It has begun' UFO documentary :
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=1

1970's UFO documentary with Stephen Speilberg:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=0

Airline pilot UFO conference:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=4

Bruce Maccabee on UFOs:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...x+con+jim+marrs

Jim Marrs on UFOs:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=1

Mexico UFO conference:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...71236&q=ufo

Compilation of UFO footage:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=0

Nick Pope interview:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=0

Deep Underground Military Bases (DUMBs)

Richard Sauder:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=0

Bill Hamilton:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=2

Phil Schneider:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=4

..........
karl 12
Anyone know any more? yes.gif
Bogeyman
You seem to have nailed most of the good ones there.
My own personal favourite is the "it has begun" one with Rod Serling. Mainly because it was made in a time without photoshop and advanced video editing techniques....what you see is what was shot.
Also in this is a film of a fleet of silver spheres (filmed in the 60s) which was analysed for hundreds of hours by Navy , Army intelligence and balloons, kites,flares , planes etc were all written off as viable explanations for them. To this day these " fleets" are still one of the most common sightings but the debunkers still shout " Balloons" ------- talk about sticking your head in the sand.
The Serling one gets my recomendation for anyone looking for a good place to start........also remember back in the 60s/70s that black ops craft wouldn't have been half as developed as we'd imagine them to be now....which makes some of the sightings on that video even more intriguing.
Some of the witnesses on this including serving Air Force pilots give the impression that full disclosure was to be on the cards.......Anyhoo this one gets my thumbsup.gif
REBEL
A lot of docos there Karl, take me best part of a fortnight to watch em all. lol!

That Disclosure Project tho, i've scoped out a few times now, IMO it has to be one of the more convincing ones i've seen to date, cutting edge stuff. I mean maaan they're not interviewing back-yarders here most of these dudes were top/ish brass with the military & scientists etc(?) If they're all bullsh*ting including Greer himself, then all i say is they should all be nominated for Oscars (and win) or Straight Jackets off to the rubber rooms for psychiatric ANALysis (probing) ya know what i'm mean, theres no 'grey' area here, it's simply either black or white if you follow my meaning?...

It's frigg'n times like this i wish i had the power of ESP or somethin. lol!

anyways, cool post thumbsup.gif

SkepticalEd
ohmy.gif
QUOTE (karl 12 @ Oct 24 2007, 08:13 AM) *
Anyone know any more? yes.gif

Are you serious? There's millions of UFO videos and associated topics. You'd need a few lifetimes to see all as of this moment and there are more added every day. There's no end in sight! Thanks anyway for your list. Some of them are worthless, while others may be worth a view.
sleepy.gif
The Silver Thong
Here's a few more nothing really new though

http://www.ufovidmag.com/videos.html

Hey look at that 3000 posts and on my birthday to boot. Yaaa for me lol
karl 12
QUOTE (Bogeyman @ Oct 24 2007, 01:30 PM) *
You seem to have nailed most of the good ones there.
My own personal favourite is the "it has begun" one with Rod Serling. Mainly because it was made in a time without photoshop and advanced video editing techniques....what you see is what was shot.
Also in this is a film of a fleet of silver spheres (filmed in the 60s) which was analysed for hundreds of hours by Navy , Army intelligence and balloons, kites,flares , planes etc were all written off as viable explanations for them. To this day these " fleets" are still one of the most common sightings but the debunkers still shout " Balloons" ------- talk about sticking your head in the sand.
The Serling one gets my recomendation for anyone looking for a good place to start........also remember back in the 60s/70s that black ops craft wouldn't have been half as developed as we'd imagine them to be now....which makes some of the sightings on that video even more intriguing.
Some of the witnesses on this including serving Air Force pilots give the impression that full disclosure was to be on the cards.......Anyhoo this one gets my thumbsup.gif



Bogeyman,thanks for the reply-your right about the Rod Serling doucumentary-the most interesting event it covers is the 'Washington merry-go-round' (22:10)which occurred over two consecutive weeks in 1952.
On July 19th,several objects were captured on multple radar over Washington airspace and witnessed by trained observers (plus many civilians).
Because they were in the Whitehouse airspace corridor,military fighter jets were scrambled but the unknown objects outran them.
Exactly one week later on July 26th,the objects were again captured and plotted on multiple radar,were again witnessed by huge numbers of people and again outran military fighter jets sent to intercept them.
Although the event was front page news and some of the objects were plotted by military radar travelling 7000 mph+,many folks are unaware of this event.
Heres some good info on the incident:
http://www.nicap.org/wnsdir.htm
The debunker explanation at the time was to ignore all witness/pilot testimony and state that it was two rare 'temperature inversions' occurring in exactly the same area of sky exactly one week apart.Hmmm.

As for the Rod Serling documentary as a whole, it has the distinction of being the 'only' UFO film directly comissioned and funded by the Pentagon-perhaps they were toying with the idea of disclosure and then changed their mind. original.gif
Cheers Karl




karl 12
QUOTE (REBEL @ Oct 24 2007, 02:01 PM) *
A lot of docos there Karl, take me best part of a fortnight to watch em all. lol!

That Disclosure Project tho, i've scoped out a few times now, IMO it has to be one of the more convincing ones i've seen to date, cutting edge stuff. I mean maaan they're not interviewing back-yarders here most of these dudes were top/ish brass with the military & scientists etc(?) If they're all bullsh*ting including Greer himself, then all i say is they should all be nominated for Oscars (and win) or Straight Jackets off to the rubber rooms for psychiatric ANALysis (probing) ya know what i'm mean, theres no 'grey' area here, it's simply either black or white if you follow my meaning?...

It's frigg'n times like this i wish i had the power of ESP or somethin. lol!

anyways, cool post thumbsup.gif



Rebel -the full disclosure two hour video is definitely worth a watch and your right about the sheer number (and high calibre) of trained professionals that have come foward to testify about the reality of this subject.
Also the John Greenwald Jr ones good too.
Cheers matey original.gif
karl 12
QUOTE (The Silver Thong @ Oct 24 2007, 11:14 PM) *
Here's a few more nothing really new though

<a href="http://www.ufovidmag.com/videos.html" target="_blank">http://www.ufovidmag.com/videos.html</a>

Hey look at that 3000 posts and on my birthday to boot. Yaaa for me lol


Hey thanks for the vids -interesting stuff.
(Have a mighty fine Bday original.gif )
Cheers Karl
Teslasparkgap
Only the FOO was true.

Its was made with stolen designs from Tesla by the Illumiati owners.

Tesla became aware and was going to sue and was killed.


See UFO photos all linked to original posrted jpgs.

Your Welcome.
Stixxman
you believe that tesla but you don't be;ieve they might be alien in origin????? ooohhhhhkaaaay?
karl 12
>Thanks anyway for your list.

Your welcome Ed.

> Some of them are worthless.

Which ones,why?
Teslasparkgap
QUOTE (Stixxman @ Oct 25 2007, 05:42 PM) *
you believe that tesla but you don't be;ieve they might be alien in origin????? ooohhhhhkaaaay?


Use your imagination any way you want, but I must stick my finger in the bullet hole
made in any dead Alien to believe that it was once alive.

EEEEEEOOOWWWWW

It is many times more difficult to learn about a real person Tesla because you can't make it up.
Although false flag dis info about Tesla has been funded for years by the CIA.
And zero real technical knowledge exists due to the technology being stolen and coveted by Nazis
and the FBI.
The Alien stories are a false flag of stolen Tesla technology.


Dead Aline or dead Tesla.

Are you aware that Eisenhower met with the Aline King?
Now that I know you must believe, its on video and wikipedia web pages.
Does wikipedia have anything about William R. Lyne's research on UFOs and Tesla?
No. Because.. its REAL.

WRL cuts no slack, false flags need too much for their kind of mind control.



SkepticalEd
QUOTE (Teslasparkgap @ Oct 25 2007, 06:16 PM) *
Only the FOO was true.

Its was made with stolen designs from Tesla by the Illumiati owners.

Tesla became aware and was going to sue and was killed.


See UFO photos all linked to original posrted jpgs.

Your Welcome.

Nikola Tesla (1856 - 1943)
Nikola Tesla - one of the greatest geniuses of any age - died of heart failure, alone and destitute in a shabby hotel room.

Change your nick!

SkepticalEd
QUOTE (karl 12 @ Oct 25 2007, 07:55 PM) *
>Thanks anyway for your list.

Your welcome Ed.

> Some of them are worthless.

Which ones,why?

From my point of view, which stretches back to 1957 and who has seen and heard almost all there is to UFOs, I think that "FASTWALKERS" and "DAN AYKROYD - UNPLUGGED ON UFOs," for example, are two of the worst. I don't want to hear talking heads discussing UFOs and government cover-ups and seeing ridiculous photos a lot of them hoaxed.

Ditto with Aykroyd. I don't consider him any kind of authority on UFOs and all he's doing is venting ignorance. For instance, he says he was introduced to UFOs at the age of 8 after seeing a LIFE cover showing UFOs over the D.C. Capitol. With basic research anyone can find out that the photo is NOT of UFOs over the Capitol but it is, instead, a highly cropped photo showing the reflections of the lamps that are seen in the FULL photo.

And Richard Dolan is a young believer, I used to communicate with him and I told him about the D.C. photo which he was using. I do not want to hear "trained professionals."

I had a problem with some of the other videos, e.g., "OUT OF THE BLUE" was not available.

Understand that for this old fogey, such presentations don't say anything new. For the younger audience, they might be the cat's meow! So, as with UFOs, it is in the eye of the beholder. I'm actually glad to be as old as I am and as knowledgeable as I am because I can see how these videos can affect the young, vulnerable mind of those seeking "answers" to mysteries that are new to them. But good research satisfies more than listening to people such as Friedman, Sereda, Dean, etc., spew b.s.

It all boils down to learning how to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Stixxman
but there is definitely some wheat out there now.
SkepticalEd
QUOTE (Stixxman @ Oct 26 2007, 10:02 AM) *
but there is definitely some wheat out there now.

There has always been wheat. But it's the chaff that "speaks."
Teslasparkgap
QUOTE (SkepticalEd @ Oct 25 2007, 08:44 PM) *
Nikola Tesla (1856 - 1943)
Nikola Tesla - one of the greatest geniuses of any age - died of heart failure, alone and destitute in a shabby hotel room.

Change your nick!


Worthless...

Tesla was killed when the FOO became known.

you make piggy comments
Teslasparkgap
Learn about Tesla...


Definitely more than you know.

He didn't die alone.

The FBI drill him and George Schriff for the location of his labs and suitcases of Ether Physics.

skyeagle409
QUOTE (karl 12 @ Oct 24 2007, 12:13 PM) *
Anyone know any more? yes.gif



Here are a few more.

This involves a chilling incident.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sde6crjTBJA


This involves an incident in space. Engineers from Aerojet are also confirming that their own DSP satellites have been detecting the objects as well. In fact, a DSP satellite recorded the encounter over Iran in 1976 betrween Iranian F-4 Phantoms and UFOs. Recently, the Iranian pilot of that second F-4 came forward and confirmed the incident as reported.

http://www.anomalies.net/ufo/gov/dsp/dsp-001.ram



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvNiBfkuWEo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvNiBfkuWEo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8CChInUvQ8...feature=related



karl 12
QUOTE (skyeagle409 @ Jun 8 2008, 03:46 PM) *
Here are a few more.

This involves a chilling incident.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sde6crjTBJA


This involves an incident in space. Engineers from Aerojet are also confirming that their own DSP satellites have been detecting the objects as well. In fact, a DSP satellite recorded the encounter over Iran in 1976 betrween Iranian F-4 Phantoms and UFOs. Recently, the Iranian pilot of that second F-4 came forward and confirmed the incident as reported.

http://www.anomalies.net/ufo/gov/dsp/dsp-001.ram



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvNiBfkuWEo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvNiBfkuWEo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8CChInUvQ8...feature=related



Skyeagle thanks for those wink2.gif
The Alaskan/Japanese airlines incident is truly a bizarre one !
Cheers Karl
Teslasparkgap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sde6crjTBJA

A walnut the size of two aircraft carriers.

That shape has definitely been reported before.
AstroPro
When UFOs Arrive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKWyCjIADL0 (Part 1)

Alien Encounters (Physical Trace Cases): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtjVVRwX5A0...feature=related (part 1)

UFOs: Greatest Story Ever Denied (Strongly disagree with the rod phenomenon): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...7DYKKrQK0mpHjBQ

Terry Hansen on Media Complicity: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3...hEoOgrwLa04DdAw

UFOs Then and Now: Cause for Alarm?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTYUA2k-Ais (part 1)

UFOs Then and Now: Nightmare: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv8RYwA_bg8 (part 1)

UFO Files: UFO Hunters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwPpH5fy7qo (part 1)

UFOs and the White House: http://youtube.com/watch?v=bYLECJ42e4s (part 1)

UFOs Over Illinois: http://youtube.com/watch?v=618Uqte_g1I (part 1)

Flying Saucers are Real (Stanton Friedman): http://youtube.com/watch?v=OsKxPaX-pkA# (part 1)



Zimbabwe Elementary School Encounter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5PQleH2Hz8
AstroPro
The UFO Hunters "Code Red" episode was perhaps the best episode of season one. I forgot to include it in the list I provided in the previous post. It covered just one case exclusively: the October 7, 1965 Edwards AFB UFO incident. It involved radar confirmation by 5 separate radar installations of objects invading restricted airspace, and the sighting lasted several hours. An F-106A Delta Dart was launched to intercept the invading objects. The pilots testimony was included via a hand written letter written to his wife wherein he reported that the objects seemed to move off into space. The radar prints were analyzed by a radar expert who concluded that anamolous propagation was unlikely, and that in his opinion, the UFOs painted were actual targets. It's an intriguing case that is rarely discussed and not well known. Part one of "Code Red" can be viewed here.
Teslasparkgap
QUOTE (AstroPro @ Jun 30 2008, 01:19 AM) *
UFOs: Greatest Story Ever Denied (Strongly disagree with the rod phenomenon): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...7DYKKrQK0mpHjBQ


I'm familiar with that one and has some Disclosure Project and becomes conspiracy
conscious at the end.

I took a bunch of stills from the google video and had a conspiracy page.

Rods in the wild are cylinder UFOs and the images given by 'experts' to the producers
of that video were most likely gas gun projectiles.

The airborne static machines that fly around as UFOs are hardly noticed at times.
SkepticalEd
QUOTE (karl 12 @ Oct 24 2007, 08:13 AM) *
Anyone know any more? yes.gif

The OP simply could have include www.youtube.com and let it go at that. Sheesh!
SkepticalEd
QUOTE (karl 12 @ Oct 25 2007, 05:45 PM) *
Rebel -the full disclosure two hour video is definitely worth a watch and your right about the sheer number (and high calibre) of trained professionals that have come foward to testify about the reality of this subject.
Also the John Greenwald Jr ones good too.
Cheers matey original.gif

The problem I see with this kind of thinking (about Disclosure) is that it is 2008, not the '60s or '70s or '80s, hell not even the '90s, is that we don't need any trained (in what?) professionals testifying about the reality of UFOs or of radara returns, etc. It isn't as if this is a taboo subject with only a few knowing about it. The inhabitants of Planet Earth have known about the reality of UFOs for longer than we care to remember. It's the "official" jerks that you guys want to come out and say something such as "What?"

Do you know what all of these "trained professionals" are going to achieve by joining together and petitioning the government? Diddley squat!

Who do you address a petition to? Who do you expect to give the answers to the questions you have? Not the President nor the Vice President. That leaves the rest of the government and they're too busy declaring non-declared wars and too many other problems to be affected by a few individuals who don't know what it is they want.

They want crashed UFOs? Don't have any.
They want alien bodies? Don't have any.
They want reverse-engineering data? Don't have any.
They want secret documents containing what? You'll never get 'em.

What is it that you guys want? I smell another thread!
karl 12
QUOTE (SkepticalEd @ Aug 8 2008, 07:06 AM) *
The OP simply could have include www.youtube.com and let it go at that. Sheesh!


Hi Ed- the UFO/OVNI documentaries in the first post,particularly those of Richard Dolan,John Greenwald Junior and Bruce Maccabee make a very good case for government documentary evidence for UFOs (over 200,000 documents) and to my mind, for the US Gov/US Airforce to still mantain that
“UFOs are of no Defense Significance“ in the light of all these highly contradictory reports is ludicrous.
Likewise the 2 hr Disclosure Project film does a great job of collating all the circumstantial evidence for the UFO subject in the form of sworn eyewitness testimony from highly credible,high ranking military officials,government scientists and academics-don“t you think these highly prominent, highly trained individuals are in a far better position than you or me to judge whether the UFO/OVNI subject has any validity or not?
electrafixtion
I would really like to see fastwalkers are here but the link don't work, in fact a number of the links don't work. Maybe just temporarily down.
karl 12
QUOTE (electrafixtion @ Oct 4 2008, 09:27 PM) *
I would really like to see fastwalkers are here but the link don't work, in fact a number of the links don't work. Maybe just temporarily down.


Here you go!
http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=fastwalkers#
Will try to fix other links original.gif
thefinalfrontier
Hi Karl;)

First i would like to say I have watched a good many of these videos and they for the most part are in fact authentic regardless of what ED says,
so dont let him bring you down, I have the DVD fastwalkers and also have the Dan Akeriod video and found them both very interesting and you can see truth in those peoples eyes when they speak, I also have seen the Mexican ufo conference and it is in no way hoaxed by any means, Also i have seen Mr. Shnider on a few different videos and even the one that the government killed him for, Just to sad to see so many people denying the reality of ufos, They are here and they are very real, Take from an individual who has seen a ufo and it can not be explained away,

Cheers:)
karl 12
QUOTE (AstroPro @ Jun 30 2008, 07:19 AM) *


Astropro-thanks for posting the links,the one above with Terry Hansen discussing the media and UFOs is a real eyeopener.
Cheers Karl
skyeagle409
QUOTE (karl 12 @ Jul 10 2007, 07:32 PM) *
Heres a list of interesting films/documentaries about the UFO subject (feel free to add any).
Also theres a quote link below which has some very revealing UFO quotes from highly prominent and highly credible scientists,academics,politicians and high ranking military officials/Defense/NASA:

http://paradigmresearchgroup.org/QuotesPage.html

Cheers Karl

Films and documentaries:

The Disclosure Project:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...closure+project

(Very interesting) full two hour interview account:

Disclosure,part one:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=1

Disclosure,part two:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...mp;q=disclosure

Fastwalkers UFO documentary:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=1

UFOs The greatest story ever denied:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=0

John Greenewald Jr on government documentary evidence for UFOs:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=0

Richard Dolan on UFOs:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-19...q=richard+dolan
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-18...q=richard+dolan

Dan Ackroyd-UFOs unplugged:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...kroyd+unplugged

Out of the blue UFO documentary:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...out+of+the+blue

British UFO files:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=0

Black Box UFO Secrets documentary :
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=0

Rod Serling's 'It has begun' UFO documentary :
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=1

1970's UFO documentary with Stephen Speilberg:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=0

Airline pilot UFO conference:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=4

Bruce Maccabee on UFOs:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...x+con+jim+marrs

Jim Marrs on UFOs:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=1

Mexico UFO conference:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...71236&q=ufo

Compilation of UFO footage:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=0

Nick Pope interview:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=0

Deep Underground Military Bases (DUMBs)

Richard Sauder:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=0

Bill Hamilton:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=2

Phil Schneider:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...h&plindex=4

..........


Thanks a million!! thumbsup.gif

Sooner or later, the skeptics will have to realize that those objects are real intelligently controlled vehicles.
skyeagle409
QUOTE (AstroPro @ Jun 30 2008, 06:19 AM) *
When UFOs Arrive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKWyCjIADL0 (Part 1)

Alien Encounters (Physical Trace Cases): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtjVVRwX5A0...feature=related (part 1)

UFOs: Greatest Story Ever Denied (Strongly disagree with the rod phenomenon): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...7DYKKrQK0mpHjBQ

Terry Hansen on Media Complicity: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3...hEoOgrwLa04DdAw

UFOs Then and Now: Cause for Alarm?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTYUA2k-Ais (part 1)

UFOs Then and Now: Nightmare: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv8RYwA_bg8 (part 1)

UFO Files: UFO Hunters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwPpH5fy7qo (part 1)

UFOs and the White House: http://youtube.com/watch?v=bYLECJ42e4s (part 1)

UFOs Over Illinois: http://youtube.com/watch?v=618Uqte_g1I (part 1)

Flying Saucers are Real (Stanton Friedman): http://youtube.com/watch?v=OsKxPaX-pkA# (part 1)


Zimbabwe Elementary School Encounter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5PQleH2Hz8


Thanks, AstroPro! thumbsup.gif

The kids at that school have made a big impression on quite a few folks.
karl 12
QUOTE (skyeagle409 @ Oct 13 2008, 04:29 AM) *
Thanks a million!! thumbsup.gif

Sooner or later, the skeptics will have to realize that those objects are real intelligently controlled vehicles.


Skyeagle thumbsup.gif
Dont hold your breathe,I suspect many UFO cynics are wilfully ignorant/obstinate on purpose-I'm not realy talkng about sceptics here-just the folks that do absolutely nothing to objectively educate themselves about the UFO/OVNI subject then pretend to hold informed,balanced opinions.
Here are some apt quotes:


Any scientist who did not read some serious books and articles presenting the real indications of the phenomenon should have intellectual honesty to abstain from making declarations presented as scientists??
Dr. Bernard HAISCH-Astronomer


?What constitutes a proof? Is it necessary that an UFO lands at the entry of the Pentagon, near the chiefs of Staff? Or is this a proof when a station of radar on the ground detects UFOs, sends a flotilla of interception, that the pilots see the UFO, take it with the radar and see it to move away at a fantastic speed? Is this a proof only when the pilot draws to him above and maintains its version before a martial court? Doesn't this constitute a proof? ?
E.J. Ruppelt (major chief of the project Blue Book)


One refuses to study the facts because they are not included/understood, but to include/understand them, they would have initially to be studied??
A. MEESSEN-Physicist.


There does not exist currently any machine manufactured by the man, plane or missile, which is capable of such performances, in particular to fly at supersonic speed without making bang? ?It cannot be something creates by the man and our defense system is impotent vis-a-vis these machines?
Colonel de Brouwer (Belgian air force) in 1990


I believe that the attitude of spirit that one must adopt with respect to these phenomena is a completely open attitude of spirit, i.e. who does not consist in denying a priori as besides our ancestors of the previous centuries had to deny things which appear perfectly elementary to us today?
(Mr. Robert Galley, Minister for the Armies) ?


The best means of not finding an evidence, it is not to seek some ".
Pierre Guerin (astrophysicist, research director at
CNRS)

Cheers Karl
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