Hi Guys dun know whether am i on the correct place
i need some info on the type of demons and abillity

and the archangel,i have some info on them but not enough
i have been having the same dream with the details for the past week

need some advise

btw is there really a real werewolf ? as i would like to be one lol
jk

Why do you need the info for?

yes i also find it interesting that you would be asking questions like that, if your thinking of fighting demons, dont you will lose, just like i did in that wreslting game, except worse because it practiacally suicide and to my knowledge there is no way to actually kill a demon the only thing iv ever heard of having that power was the trident used by posiden, but a lot of people look at that as a myth.

How do you kill something that is a figment of peoples flights of fancy ?

I could make up a creature and call it doirric, it has a half green, half red body and gurgles a lot.... oh and it has mean wrestling skills and can only be killed if you explode a 2000 megaton nuclear device on its head

It may seem funny to you, but just pray you NEVER ever have to come in contact with one. BTW You cannot kill something that is unhuman..

ok Guys i was not trying to fight the demon
its like this
i have this dream of this figure wired u might think with wings like Locust which i dont know wat it is i cant see the face as it is too dark and in my dream i was in this room or cave i dun know which is so dark i cant even see my own hand and is real cold and this dark shadow was always tring to eat me but whenever it catch up with me i wake up and there will always be this Scratching sound at my window when i wake up

and this Symptoms is happening every night , i'm not afraid as i guess he wont be able to harm me as i did not do anything wicked or bad , and also i will never give in to whoever or watever it is, and i just want to have more knowledge of wat the hell is it and wat it want

and i believe in wat just normal say , ( pray)
trust me i guess it help cause when i pray when i wake up the
Scratching sound at my window stop , so Perhaps i hypnotize myself b4 i go to sleep
then i will say my prayer when i meet him this way it might stop
Just kidding

do you all really truly believe in this stuff? all the time i come across topics about demons and how to conjur them and what not. i really hope you don't think this stuff is real.

I echo that statement word for word

come on guys.. stop allowing myths to control your lives . the only thing you will be fighting is your own fears .. tut tut

How out of curiosity is something thats not human invincible? There are billions of other creatures that inhabit this planet that aren`t human and they certainly die and can be killed. I am merely inquiring and wish to know what you actually meant. Were you actually referring to paranormal entities? If so, why is it impossible to kill them?

Wow ...we may as well change the name of the site to:"Solved Mysteries" ....you guys have convinced me ..... countless generations are wrong and these two UM forum members have it ALL figured out ....

Mr Halfhand

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Yes I was referring to demonics as that is what the poster was discussing. I never meant plants, or trees, but demonincs. You cannot kill what never lived, and you cant kill what was never alive..You can merely demand it go back where it belongs, wherever that may be,...JN

LOL Anyone who has anything evil in their lives, whether physically, emotionally or paranormally should pray. I found there IS strength and prayer. You can pray and wish it away, and whatever it is..JN

Can prayer summon supernatural forces to come to our defence?.... or is it a meditative practice that enables us to generate our own shield against "evil" entities?..... I'm not 100% sure, but it seems to work in a lot of ways ...power of positive thinking?......B





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No.

Yeah you can, you can kill loads of stuff that is unhuman. My friends cat got run over the other day - unhuman, well dead.
I know what you ment though.

good one!

I dunno BF, good question. But I do believe we all have loved ones or someone to watch over us in times of need. We can create our own "white shield" by imagining it, wrapping ourselves up in it and believing it, that alone can ward off negative entities. Positive thinking and levity can help everyone get past times of strife, and struggles.

I was thinking about making a point like this. Prayer and meditation on "light" can dispel these nightmares about darkness. But I figured that anyone who says he wants to become a werewolf isn't going to listen. And look at that avatar. Nightmares about a suffocating darkness, you say? Why, I don't know what could be causing that.

LOL You are too funny!!

Actually for your information i dont have it all figured out . what i have figured out though is that these are myths used to control the masses and instill fear into people so they will follow the leaders like sheep to the slaughter and be good little citizens for the chuch leaders/governments etc etc. unfortunatly it is all these misconceptions that have been instilled in people that have kept people like you coming to these boards but there are many real unsolved mysteries out there that you could go looking to solve or you could continue thinking you can fight off the demons and summon the dragons and other mythical creatures you ve been led to believe . thats your choice ! i for one wont be led down the dark alley of fear and mind control so i'll be a good little girl and do as im darn well told.

Thank you, Dr. Marx. That is one theory, and it competes with a number of others, and which ones stand or fall is not considered quite settled here and is (as you might infer from the word "Unexplained") considered a matter for discussion. I think that's what Barek was getting at.

Now, according to you, "demons" are myths that a powerful elite use to "control the masses." Could you be more specific? Who are the elite, what is the myth, how do they propagate this myth, and who is being controlled by it? Examples would help us understand what you mean.

Right up front, I'll say that I don't have a whole lot of reason to think that this model can explain many of the things that people report experiencing right here on this forum, but maybe you can show me.

which is what i am doing discussing. i have my opinion and others have theirs yes ?

yes according to me they are in all my years of life and my large circle of colleagues friends associates everyone. ive never met anyone who has met with a demon apart from on the internet hmm ? there is no evidence that has proved to me they exist so to me they are a myth until someone can show me otherwise, this is my opinion but i cant see that happening can you ? because it is all in their own minds when we assume something is real we make it real, fear comes from within when one is feared of something ei a child afraid of monsters under the bed they will hear things sounds. see things that arent really there .imagination kicks in adrenalin kicks and overall FEAR. in the darkness of ones room harmless shadows become shadow people lights become eyes and such like . believe me when i was a kid i had my own fears that had me hiding under the duvet but i grew out of it when i realised it was all in the mind it all came from my own fear i built these things up from nothing till they were so big they had control of me but never at any time were they anything other than my own overactive childhood imagination.

its all seems a little horror movie and science fiction book to me sorry. seems to me some people live in a world of fantasy and make believe some believe in fairies others demons . just becasue they believe in it doesnt make it real ? wheres the proof wheres there pictures . video evidence of these things ? if i was to tell you i was a well known medium and i saw spirits everyday of my life and spoke to them and they spoke back and that i could produce ectoplasm into the shapes of real human people and people could validate these entities u would ask for proof as im making a claim ? wheres these ppls proof its their word only . one mention of a spirit sighting everyone wants proof but mention a demon or dragon or suchlike that they deem to be real and no one bats an eyelid.

when i said its a control method what i am saying here is some religions use scare tactics to get people to behave the way we want them too . ie if you do this you will go to hell ? the devil will take your soul ? ermm if you take your own life u will be in limbo and its a grey place and very sad.. does'his not make people behave in a certan way ? course it does it makes them go to church to confess or other means for each religion ..to cleanse themselves so they will be accepted in the eyes of their chosen god .. i definitly dont profess to be wel up on any religion i have never studied or gave much time to any . although saying that i do respect everyones beliefs until it comes to a point where they are so darned feared that they cant live a normal life ? wheres te sense in that
i dont get it !!!

and yes i do know this place is called unsolved mysteries and people are free to discuss whatever they choose, im not running around trying to stop them but what i do understand here is there are children on these boards and for them to be subjected to these stories or experiences is only going to perpetuate what i have stated above .

blessings
spiritual_soul79

sorry but I an agnostic...and your atheist banter is LESS than original ....and poorly worded for that matter...(chuch) ....so you believe in the paranormal as long is it in no way could possibly conform to any Christian doctrine....so like it could be a "negative energy spirit" BUT NEVER A DEMON!!
....God this isn't even fun anymore .....B





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yes typical lets pick up on the spelling mistakes i cant find much else to say hmmm okay i type fast my keys stick is that a reason to mock me hmm no

im not agnostic. athiest or anything actualy i am JUST ME . i only believe in that for which i have proof is that so bad ?

and no i dont believe in NEGATIVE spirits either .

I believe in negative people though

blessings
spiritual_soul79

I happen to disagree. Even in this day and age of modern technology, how can one possibly "prove" any haunting never mind demonic? People dont believe a stranger's word, photos, videos or EVP's for the most part. So Hollywood makes movies out of true accounts, and people still dont believe it. I do realize that the word "devil" was used when I was a child, but to me it was a fictional character. How could anything be that evil? The older I get the more evil I see, even in people's behaviors, words, and actions. So to me, there is good and there is evil. Why is it so impossible to believe that there is a God, but no evil? How many photos would it take, how many EVP's would it take, and how many words would it take, to convince ONE person that these things are out there, and as horrific as it sounds, they really are! Why not look up the statistics of exorcisms in the US alone, in one year, performed by every clergy of every demonination? The numbers would be staggering. So many honest and kind people here, take pics of a cemetery, their family, an old pic of a loved one who has passed, or their house and post it. The debunkers blaming the camera, the film, the weather conditions and the film taker outweigh them every time. So we cant win no matter how hard anyone tries to warn others of what is out, and then what to do while it's in their lives, most choose to not read or listen. Its fine to go thru life in denial that nothing of this nature is part of society as a whole, but if that were true, then what a happier, more peaceful world this would be. JN

I agree with the majority of that statement yes its hard to prove there will always be skeptics of course they will . I am a skeptic myself doesn't mean i dont believe in lots of this stuff for which i have proof (my proof no ones written word . shared acccount. or tv series ) unfortunatly its in my nature to question everything see it too believe it . if i saw it i can validate it maybe i would still question it was coming from my mind though i do do that a lot lol

the point im making is when it comes to ghost we have pics wether they are real dust or not people post them . how often do you see a picture that says underneath it .. the demon that entered my bedroom last night? even if i said oh thats just dust at least they would show me they believed it enough to actually try to record it

believe me im not having digs at anyone here . i believe anything and everything is possible i really do. i would never be so ignorant to rule anything out completely i just need proof and until i get it for myself i cant believe on faith alone .

Well basically, you say you keep having this recurring dream about this locust thing in the dark and this shadow guy always catching up to you and eating you before you wake up. Well it just sounds like a dream, probably just caused by some stress you might be having. The only thing I'd consider paranormal about a dream is when it occurs outside of you mind, which apparently to you it does when something scratches on your window. But if it keeps happening, even when you pray to your prefered god, why don't you just look out the window and see what the hubub is. If you're scared, just turn on a light first, it's really not that hard. Most likely it's just the wind lol, things that can seem paranormal alot of the time usually aren't. My door in my room always used to slam shut, I didn't really find it freaky or anything, especially when it was just a crack open and it would open fully slowly. All it was was that my window was open causing for the airpressure to balance out, but pushing pressure on the door causing it to slam. The reason why it opened was the same reason but with just air pressure coming from outside.

Oh so then you do not believe in the paranormal at all?.....then why are you here? that would be like me hanging out at an American Idol forum (Ugh) .....and yes, I am going to make you contradict yourself into a corner ...


Mr Halfhand

I like that speculation, Barek...that really grabbed my attention.

'I am a skeptic myself doesn't mean i dont believe in lots of this stuff for which i have proof (my proof no ones written word . shared acccount. or tv series ) unfortunatly its in my nature to question everything see it too believe it . if i saw it i can validate it maybe i would still question it was coming from my mind though i do do that a lot lol '

did you actually read that post at all ??

hmm yes i do believe in the paranormal and yes of course it would be silly of me to be here otherwise unless i wanted to nit pick at you all . which is defintiyl not my bag

i just happen to think there are a lot of misconceptions out there when it comes to the paranormal mainly due to dumb people like sylvia brown . derek achora to name a few ...

i just dont believe spirits too be negative well i havent met one who is yet

blessings
spiritual_soul79

No, by just understanding the laws of supernatural.

DON'T CHANGE THE SUBJECT!.....B

Thanks, but thats like saying I never saw a "ghost" so I dont believe it. Then one day you are all alone in the house, turn around to get the remote and your long lost Aunt Ethyl is standing there staring at you, with dead eyes. So like most, you would scream like a girl and run up the stairs. LOL..Then you decide to take a pic of dead aunt Ethyl, and all you got was misty fog. But you are all excited to share your photo and story. Then some clown posts "were you smoking?" or "was the oven on?" OR the infamous "photoshopped/fake." Its all the same, whether it be apparitions of human spirits or the demonic. They dont just show themselves in full form. However human spirits sometimes can be seen normally transparent. But if you try to prove a demonic entity how would one do that? IT never lived, it has no body, it has no face, it has no soul, it never died" yet it's intelligence is beyond that of humans. It is an outside force greater than ourselves that can and will latch on to anything to instill fear, anger, hatred and every other negative emotion so it can gain their own energy to attempt to damage a human being and or their family and anyone else in their path of destruction. They dont leave, they follow whoever they are attached to. They will do this until the person/people either die, go insane due to the insanity of it all and sleep deprivation, or bring in an expert to send it back where it came from, wherever that is. I realize now its not a simple thing to understand, or explain. All I DO know is they do exist, they are around and they dont show themselves to people except symbolically, so how are we to get a good picture of a demonic? They are way too intelligent and diabolical to possibly show themselves to anyone except a priest/demonologist or pastor etc and even then its never in full form. So it boils down to seeing is believing. I hope you never ever have to "see." JN

LOL, sorry, but I do like it. OK, as to whether I believe in evil, yes I do. Whether we want to call them demons, evil spirits or what have you, I believe they are out there. To me, if a person is evil in life, why wouldn't that carry over into the spirit world? Or, how about a demon taking over a baby's body and using it for evil purposes as it grows? We don't know for sure, no. We have our opinions and IMO there is evil. I have seen it and will never forget it.

Oh Jeez are you a hippie chick? ....I never heard of derek achora until I joined this forum and heard the guy rode from town to town in a 50 ft ghost-mobile telling stories...
tell me ...are you a medium? a sensitive? clairvoyant ? spirit guide? .....close?.....B

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That sums it up nicely dear .....its a feeling that I'll never forget either!......B

I still get chills thinking about it.

Well in that case then I TOO AM GLAD I ILL NEVER HAVE TO SEE

and hope i wont because i wont allow myself too. i have certain standards for what i accept and dont accept . so far spirit/ghost have been quite good about this .

Do you think the fact i dont believe in it or wont accept these entities you menton into my life is the reason i havent seen /felt /experienced it.?
do you think that one needs to be open to it first ?
if so do u think that negative thoughts could attract them to you and positive keep them away ? like attracts like say ?

i am here to learn just like everyone . i have never come across them as yet if they really do exist.. i didnt believe in ghosts either till i saw one lol its my way i didnt believe in obe or astral projection till i had one and i still question those to the point i test myself regularly. and im still not fully sure on these yet to be honest lucid dream /remote viewing. soul leaving the physical who knows like i said im learning.

and i do understand peoples frustration about their ghost pics and orb pics but i just think lots are fake which is why we have to weed out the good from the bad some people get this wrong yes but a lot are photoshopped!! why not all lets run for a 35mm next time and scan the pic then they wont be able to say dust/moisture . digital cameras fault cause of different shutter speeds etc etc see what happens ??

blessings
spiritual_soul79

But your assertion that believing in demons and Christainity is silly or naive may attract some negative energy to your direction... right? .....B

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rofl

derek achora is a kook a fraud ... i live in the uk he was on our screens every night which is why im aware of him

i am ME . but yes i do have some experience of the paranormal and am sensitive to things like spirits . im not great at it so cant say im clairvoyant or anything else i get bits and pieces of information that make no sense to me but do to others but i dont do readings or anything i just give the info im getting to whom i think its for. for free im hardly john edwards yet i just dont think i want to go in that directon i have too many commitments .. a hippie chik im not new age or indigo either im just ME . i can see ghost energy more than most i dont know why its just soemthing i can do not that i like it or dislike it or claim that its a good thing or bad thing it just IS.. ive come to accept it as a part of me .. i may find one day it as all my imagination who knows lol like i said to justnormal IM LEARNING .. and having fun with it

Yes maybe it will but not from the spirit/demon/other worlds i dont reckon

if you had left christianity out of that comment then i would have agreed i never said christianity was silly i just said i didnt believe in demons lol

are you wearing any crystals right now? .....great, she may be a sensitive too ...that would be my luck .....



the two go hand in hand hun....B

geez your soo funny no i dont wear crystals lol

ur presuming again ..

just out of interests do most people with these experiences wear crystals lol what are they used for? and in what way. like i said i am learning ive never owned any ??
do they help in any way shape or form or is it psychosamatic..

I strongly doubt that a person has to think that demons (for example) exist in order to encounter one. I don't even think they have to be open-minded about the possibility. It seems to me that these things are known to appear to staunch materialists. It's a very good question, though. It goes back to your (well, Marx's really) theory that things like demons are in all cases just false ideas that a ruling elite imposes on "the masses" in order to control them. If that is true, then several consequences should follow, one of which is that nonbelievers should never experience a demon encounter. Ever!

If nonbelievers ever do have demon encounters, then I think we have to blame it on something besides a belief system imposed on "the masses" by a ruling elite.



Yeah, I would say something like that is probably true. I wouldn't put it exactly that way, but something like that. Take Lonewolf here for example. He says he wants to become a werewolf. He has this dark gothy avatar. I get the impression that his mind is very much on dark things. As a consequence, he finds himself trapped in these dreams about darkness, pursued and consumed by demonic figures. Whether or not these dreams refer to anything literally real, I think that dwelling instead on goodness and light might dispel them.

Anyway, your misgivings about supposed ghost photos and bogus TV mediums are shared by many on this forum. The issue of whether or not demons (evil spirits, negative energies, whatever people want to call them) really exist is pretty controversial here, and you'll find (I think) equal numbers accepting and rejecting the proposition. I used to think it was a less than useful concept myself until I asked some of the people here what they've experienced. So maybe after considering some of these folks' experiences, you'll have a different point of view.

true boorite i always have this dark side thinking, like why am i here
wat am i watever ?

btw i dun know my nightmare can create such a fuss
i dun expect all to believe me, i just want to know more
if there is no answer then is fine
btw boorite when you mention what i dream is just a dream but do u dream of the same details for weeks
and when u mention i could on the light and look out the window, i know my frenz but i am too scare to move
and the sound sometime could even go on till first light
but thanks anyway thanks the dream have stop since my last log in
btw i do not have any proof, and i never though of having just like you will saying soul i am also learning

It is said that ones that are too curious or skeptics are more apt to attract a demonic. Being too curious, and dabbling with any form of the occult leaves anyone "open." Basically they want to be acknowledged, so by refusing them in your life, you are giving that kind of power right back to them. By using EVP's sometimes is enough for one to attach itself to you or your home. They are an equal opportunity invader. They can and will attach themselves to a person, a child, or a home. I am not talking about possessions at the moment, but hauntings. People have the misconception that there is one solid entity called the "Devil" or "Satan" but in reality they are everywhere, and of course the amount of them is unknown, but like everything else I would say the number is infinite. I never thought of them, was never afraid of them, or wanted them in my life, they were something I learned about as a child and let go as I grew up. But somewhere along the line, it entered, whether it was due to my being "too open" or too curious to paranormal things. I have a very strong will and tried to force whatever that was out on my own, but that was not enough, it takes experts and I am NOT one. Walk into your bedroom and see black bats on the ceiling, then black spider webs with huge massive black spiders hovering over your bed. Watch the white ceiling turn entirely black till the whole room is in total darkness. Watch black hands in front of your face, that wakes you with your heart racing out of sheer fear that you will be killed. Wake up smelling smoke and believing your home is on fire, only to find it isnt, and the list goes on. I refuse to let it scare me, I refuse to sit at home and cry or even think about it. I come here so I can at least write about it, so maybe others understand what we are dealing with here. Other than this, I ignore it, I have to. The more you think about them in your head, yes the more open you can be to anything of the demonic haunting. JN

^ Well that kind of doesn't make sense.

Either too curious at one end or total disbelievers at the other end.

Either way they want you?

Seems odd.

I don't think that's necessarily dark. I mean we all ask ourselves those things. I was referring to when you said you wanted to be a werewolf.



I don't mean to say that your dream is "just a dream." It definitely means something important.

I have had recurring dreams, but no, I don't think I've ever had one every night for weeks. It sounds significant.



I'm not talking about physical light. I mean that two or three times a day, you could try praying or meditating and picturing "light" coming into your mind. Just ask for the light to take away the darkness. That is, if you want the darkness to go away.



I never ask for proof. I'm glad the nightmares have stopped for you.