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Atlantis one of the most debated subjects in Mythology and Legend.

Its Whereabouts have been sought after and speculated about for 1000's of years.

A year and a half of research into freemasonry later I can without a shadow of a doubt show you where Atlantis is and how others throughout history have known about it and have tried to show us without coming right out and telling us , possibly because they feared the repercussions if they did.

Leonardo Davinci Knew of these Secrets and probably of the plans of the two opposing sides within freemasonry the Sons of Belial and the Law of One.

The order that seems to be prevailing is the Sons of Belial who want the creation of a dictatorship which emphasizes materialism, and greed the very things that are currently destroying our planet and tearing families and whole civilizations apart.

In His Painting The Last supper and The virgin of the rocks he left us clues that must be looked at. The method he used was one that he is historically famous for , that of mirroring.

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In this section of the Last supper Painting you can see that there is a crucifix hovering below a giant stone apex both above a scarab beetle shaped city with a dodecahedron dome for the main “Cave” .

Both The apex and the crucifix can still be seen to this day.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/0007.jpg

The dodecahedron is the fifth platonic solid defined by Plato a polyhedron with twelve regular pentagonal faces, mentioned in his writing timaeus “There still remained a fifth construction (dodecahedron), which the god used for embroidering the constellations on the whole heaven”

An interesting line when you know that in this same writing he has discussed Atlantis and if you realize that 4000 years ago the Egyptians (the original Atlantians) were using the scarab beetle as the symbol for Cancer the zodiacal sign , one of twelve ,which could explain what he meant if he knew that there was a giant stone crucifix hovering above it and from this city people were coming and going from planet Earth , an amazing site to behold I am sure.

The City I have Rediscovered actually sits North west of 33n 33e , 33 for those of you that know is a very special number to the freemasons.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/0006.jpg

The City is actually underwater which wont come as a surprise to those that know of the history of Atlantis.

I believe it used to sit on 33n 33e as it is actually on a techtonic plate that is slipping NW

I took the liberty of overlaying screen grabs from google earth of both Atlantis and the pyramids both grabs taken when the compass in GE is set to its true north and noticed that the allignment of both is Identical pointing in a north easterly direction

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/p...-allignment.jpg

In this image you can see the magnetic anomolie that sits between the scarabs legs on what I believe is a landing pad or spaceport which stands to reason launching from such an area would be like launching in the eye of a storm

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/M...ic_anomalie.jpg

Here you can see the spaceship waiting for pregnant mary. Outside on a beam of bluish light hovering above ball placed on a sqaure plinth.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/m...ingpregnant.jpg

also this image is created in the same fashion as dan browns movie but utilising mirroring which they didnt.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/thomas_secret.jpg

This image shows Thomas saying shh with a tiny humanoid figure appearing between his hands, sugesting what that mary was pregant or more profoundly the actual origins of human existance from the Northern Donkey in the constelation of The Asses and the Manger when you combine that image with this one

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/THOMAS_POINTSB.jpg

Another clue to the whereabouts of the scarab beetle is the Masonic Temple in london The ceiling of which is a beautiful matrix of symbology and hidden meaning

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/whole-ceiling.jpg

and is placed directly under its pyramidal roof.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/masonspyramid.jpg

The Center of the ceiling has four scarab beetles pointing towards a giant crystal surrounded by two rings 0f 16 pentacle stars (16+16+1=33) .

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/Ceiling_Detail.jpg

The giant crystal is actually a stylized flag Of Macadon the country which Alexander the Great used to be ruler of , Alexandria in Egypt is named after him and is the site of the Pharos lighthouse one of the lost ancient seven wonders of the world.

This is the setting for leonardos Last supper as the freemasons know as their replica of the lighthouse in Alexandria USA “The George Washington Masonic Memorial” has on its third floor 3 windows to each wall which is exactley what we see in leonardos Last Supper painting

Also on the third floor of this 333 foot monument is a shrine to christ.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/GWMM_02.jpg

If the suggestion is we are in Alexandria and surely we must be to get the view from marys window of the City of Atlantis from the rear then we are not in Jerusalem which is obvious if you draw a line backwards using google earth till it intersects land and we find it directly hits the spot where the lighthouse used to stand until 1300 !

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/LINEDUP_02.jpg

Mary Magdelen has been known since biblical times as the woman with the alabaster jar or box,

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/dolci.jpg

A jar of pure white gypsum or calcite alabaster in which she kept an oil with which she annointed the feet of jesus

"And, behold, a woman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that Jesus sat at meat in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster box of ointment, and stood at his feet behind him weeping, and began to wash his feet with tears, and did wipe them with the hairs of her head, and kissed his feet, and anointed them with the ointment." Luke 7:36-50

Bearing this in mind and doing a little research into the ancient Egyptian solar godess Bastet , who was the defender of the pharaoh and later Ra also a solar god , she later became known as the Eye of RA

( a definate masonic symbol )

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/Horus.jpg

but more intriguingly Bastet literally meant (female) of the ointment jar. So it was no surprise to me that when I mirrored the head of Mary in the last supper painting a bastet appeared

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/Bastet.jpg

Going with Ralph Ellis and his book title of "Jesus last of the Pharaohs" which would tie with Jesus being at the head of the table in the Last Supper painting if as I say it took place in the Pharaohs Lighthouse overlooking a kingdom where peace and harmony were order of the day otherwise you couldnt be a resident. I am speaking of Atlantis of course or is it the garden of Eden or the kingdom of Heaven on earth!

Is it a coincidence that Leonardos pupil Marco d'Oggiono painted the replicas under the instruction of his Teacher and hid the same clues , and is it a coincidence that in Marcos' version of the Virgin of the rocks when you mirror it you see a lions head entrance to a cave looking exactley like the cave of wonders in Aladdin the Disney cartoon.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/alladins-cave.jpg

A Cave which was revealed to Jafar when he followed a golden scarb Beetle into the desert a scarab beetle that he activated by placing together the two halves IE mirror image pieces!!!!

Then When I mirrored Leonardos Version of the using little white dots that are scattered around on the painting as markers to use for alignment I again got a cave of wonders , this time looking like a cross section opening with a shadowy figure stood almost with bowed head befor the cave The biggest surprise to me was the appearance of a scarab beetle above the scene I have just described. Created when you put the two halves together

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/COW.jpg

Also worth noting is the obvious third child in the marco version of this painting initially there appear to be only two children but when you realise there is a newborn infant created using the folds of red material on marys lap you suddenly realise that all the other characters are looking at or gesturing towards this infant

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/MarcoMadonna.jpg

The existance of a third sibling to john and jesus is some thing that Marco hinted at in a later painting when the third child had grown and John and Jesus were young men.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/THREE_BROTHERS.jpg

I also mirrored the jesus (RA ) figure in the image of the last supper and rather than seeing a lost chalice of christ I see the holy grail ( knowledge )

Jesus demonstrating as we do nowadays that a spinning magnetic field over a stationary magnetic field causes hover and lift

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/hoverplate.jpg

bearing that in mind the look of astonishment on James Son of zebedees face is now apparant he was impressed with the demonstartion of a small miracle before his eyes and now we understand that Thomas is saying so that will go up lift off !!!

This isnt unthought out fantasy because if we take a look at Jesus in Salvador Dalis Sacrament of the last supper

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/S...ment_normal.jpg

He is gesturing Flemings right hand rule and pointing to himself saying either I am magnetism or I have the knowledge of.

Then it came as no surprise to me that he placed this scene inside a dodecahedron the same construction we see of the domed city in marys window

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/marys-window.jpg

and that when I mirrored this image he had used amazing symmetry and now we have jesus demonstrating the left and right hand rule

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/l...supper-dali.jpg

IE counter rotating magnetic fields LIFT OFF

Here is an interesting image like leonardo Marco Hid many things in these pictures and I have dozens of examples to post heres one showing a high priest kind of figure with a crusaders shield above his head.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/crusader.jpg

Then there is this version by leonardo and the odd shaped rocks come together to give us the image of jesus or christ like silhouette appears over the scene (this is a large file 2.7megs)

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/Jesusarms.jpg

Then there is if you look closely the image of Baphomet in between the mirrored image of marys head.which is the demon that the masons are supposed to worship.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/Baphomet.jpg

Which makes sense when you mirror the little boy with the crucifix and see it makes a perfect set square and compass!

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/SETSQUARE.jpg

And when you look closely at the image of the view from marys window

You will see an unmistakeable fleur de lye in the red cloth

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/marys-window.jpg

if you cant see it watch this video I made and you can spot it easier

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/simple.wmv

Something I do find uncanny is the prophesy of the return of christ

In St. Mathew’s Gospel, Jesus foretold his second coming on Earth (link). The promise He made was that He would return when His sign appeared in the sky: "Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory" (Matthew, 24:30).

taken from

http://www.aiborg.net/prophecy/

A Page entitled

THE DA VINCI PROPHECY

But quoting a source somemay see as worthy so am I fulfilling the prophecy by exposing the davinci code secret hidden in the painting

Or can the power source that held this great stone (diorite as it contains Magnetite like the giant stone scarab in the british museum I think which is reminiscant of the monoliths in 2001 by A.C.Clarke ) be reactivated and are we yet to witness this amazing spectacle in our lifetime ?

Heres the giant stone beetle in the British Museum Notice the concentric arrangement of the front end and think of platos description of the concentric rings I believe its a magnetic arrangement that creates a powerful magnetic field hence the magnetic anomolie picture I posted and the spaceship in the painting waiting for a pregnant Mary or even enhances a naturally occuring magnetic field as there seem to be lots of them.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/scarab_top.jpg

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/S...etle_statue.jpg

Another interesting image showing the Placement of the Knife in the picture of the last supper being directley in line with the ribs of jesus

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/knifepoint.jpg

And when we see that in the image with the spaceship outside the window creates mary to be pregnant and the knife is know appearing to be in her hand as she is dressed in the correct colour red.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/m...ingpregnant.jpg

This would make sense as Mary and Peter are historically supposed to have been bitter enemies and this close up of Peters cheek shows a definate cut with blood

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/petercut.jpg

ISA

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Interesting stuff. However, there have been people who have said that they've known the location of Atlantis for years. I will believe it when I actually see it, if a team goes to that location and finds it...great. But I don't believe that there was anything mysteries about Atlantis at all, I just believe it was a civilization where their land collapsed into the water. I also believe the "Sea Peoples" who invaded Egypt may have been people from this civilization.

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Interesting stuff. However, there have been people who have said that they've known the location of Atlantis for years. I will believe it when I actually see it, if a team goes to that location and finds it...great. But I don't believe that there was anything mysteries about Atlantis at all, I just believe it was a civilization where their land collapsed into the water. I also believe the "Sea Peoples" who invaded Egypt may have been people from this civilization.

Thanks for your Opinion Jaida , :yes: You sure must surf quick thats a load of links I have put up there to view and a deal of info to absorb and put together .

But thanks for stopping by B)

ISA

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Why do you have to distort a painting/picture/portrait to get it to show what you want? If there's a message there, wouldn't it have been shown in plain sight? Kinda like a 'Where's Waldo?' picture where you don't have to distort or change any of what you see, just look beyond what you normally see.

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Clearly, you and Weareallsuckers need to be put into a to-the-death cage match to determine who the real finder of lost Atlantis is.

--Jaylemurph

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Clearly, you and Weareallsuckers need to be put into a to-the-death cage match to determine who the real finder of lost Atlantis is.

--Jaylemurph

Will that deathmatch be on pay-per-veiw?

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Will that deathmatch be on pay-per-veiw?

Heh.

Either PBS or Sci-Fi, depending on who wins.

--Jaylemurph

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Heh.

Either PBS or Sci-Fi, depending on who wins.

--Jaylemurph

It should be a Hell In The Cell match with Mick Foley as the special guest reffere

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what a truly great topic

i found it all really intresting :)

some of it was a little far fetched but on the whole very intresting

as for the post asking why wasn't it in plain view view why would it be hidden

i think we all know just how clever da vinci was and i don't think it beyond his capabilities to engineer his art in this way i think it was upposed to be secret knowledge but maybe knew the church would not hold sway over the planet forever so sought to maybe hide some knowledge for future generations

although we must be careful not to get carried away

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I am sorry but all I see is that Davinci knew about the Transformers...

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I read somewhere a physic pinpointed the location of atlantis, they went to this and found tiles and stuff underwater

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I had an exam on Atlantis today. Im near sick to death of it.

*gets out her Timaeus and Critias*

I havent studied the Timaeus section of the text, mainly because it is not concerned with Atlantis. Its purpose is concerned with theology and an account about the origin of the world and the phenomenon of nature.

A reference would be nice, i dont feel like trailing through all the text! I'd like to read about these constructs and the context in which it was written in Timaeus.

For me this theory is a bit weak. You said "An interesting line when you know that in this same writing he has discussed Atlantis" But you have not taken into account the text of Critias at all in this theory, which might be helpful as it is the first record we have of an Atlantis.

The supposed link between the sentence in Timaeus that you have quoted and the unclear mirrored image of the last supper is very weak. It appears you may grasping at something that is not there. I may be wrong for i have only done one module on Atlantis, and i was more concerned about the utopian side to it anyway, but this is just my opinion.

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Well, maybe it wasnt Atlantis he was trying to show in his hidden mirror images?

Perhaps it was Davinci who realized the truth, that we exist in many dimensions, and that we are are all connected weither we like it or not.

He was showing how realities can be within realities. Atlantis, the lost continent, was not a reality, but a city of great glory. Yes, you are correct about the beetle shaped island thats underwater.... and that made me do some research in underwater topography of that area.

So, maybe you have found the answer to the truth, rather than the answer to where atlantis may lay.

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Well, maybe it wasnt Atlantis he was trying to show in his hidden mirror images?

I think it's clear da Vinci was trying to show Samus Aran.

--Jaylemurph

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Why do you have to distort a painting/picture/portrait to get it to show what you want? If there's a message there, wouldn't it have been shown in plain sight? Kinda like a 'Where's Waldo?' picture where you don't have to distort or change any of what you see, just look beyond what you normally see.

Hi Lady Sorbus I think that sonofkrypton went some way to answer what you are asking here but to make it clearer I will cut and paste if you dont mind its early morning here and my Aspergers syndromeseems to leave me at my most confused first thing :huh:

Leonardo wrote in Italian using a special kind of shorthand that he invented himself. People who study his notebooks have long been puzzled by something else, however. He usually used "mirror writing", starting at the right side of the page and moving to the left. Only when he was writing something intended for other people did he write in the normal direction.

taken from Museum of Science http://www.mos.org/sln/Leonardo/LeonardoRighttoLeft.html (you can put in words of your own here and it will demonstrate the technique for you)

So for instance

Atlantis written by Leonardo would look like the left hand side of this image

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and it seems evident to me that he was teaching his pupils this too as I use Marco d'Oggiono's painting of the last supper as it is in much better condition than the fresco in Italy.

Marco d'Oggiono (c. 1470 – c. 1549) was an Italian painter and a chief pupil of Leonardo da Vinci, whose works he repeatedly copied.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_d'Oggione

WHY is the question we should ask ourselves well the fact that as soon as Leonardo finished the fresco he knew it wasnt going to last and his in your face sized masterpiece would not stand the test of time and keep his secret safe in front of our eyes.

Imagine the magnitude of the fact he is pointing to here, that the last supper did not take place in Israel but in Alexandria up a light house , is that a truth that a dogmatic power structure would want us to know ?

ISA

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there sayin if u mirrior it.. there a space ship...

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Well, maybe it wasnt Atlantis he was trying to show in his hidden mirror images?

Perhaps it was Davinci who realized the truth, that we exist in many dimensions, and that we are are all connected weither we like it or not.

He was showing how realities can be within realities. Atlantis, the lost continent, was not a reality, but a city of great glory. Yes, you are correct about the beetle shaped island thats underwater.... and that made me do some research in underwater topography of that area.

So, maybe you have found the answer to the truth, rather than the answer to where atlantis may lay.

Thank you for your well thought out reply can we discuss the truth further please I would love to hear peoples interpretation of what they all think the truth is and means from this research I am doing .

As for a city of great glory I have refered to it before now as potentially the kingdom of heaven on earth I will bring some more of my post here as it seems relevent to expand upon what appears to fall into place with this stuff here

An image of KV6 the tomb of Ramesses IX where the scarab with a female deity to one side and khepra to the other is not unlike like the image of the four beetles pointing towards the star on the ceiling of the masonic temple in london and with a little into research Ramesses IX on wiki we find that

Most of his building works centre on the sun temple centre of Heliopolis in Lower Egypt where the most significant monumental works of his reign are situated.

where we find we are told on the British Museum website

There is another large scarab near the Sacred Lake in the Temple of Karnak; it originally came from the mortuary temple of Amenhotep III

I believe some of these glyphs on the carvings actually describe processes for the creation of something to do with flight if you notice the woman is holding to spherical vials and there is a crucible type object in the middle and the male figure seems to be instructing her ?

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The front face of the cylindrical pedestal on which the scarab rests has been flattened to form a stela, and is carved entirely in sunk relief. On it, the kneeling king makes an offering of two nu vessels to Atum of Heliopolis. The solar disk set between the two extended wings that crown the text forms part of the name of Nebmaatre that is inscribed in the vertical axis of this stela. The text carved on the side of the stela explicitly states that it concerns "Khepri who rises from the earth".

Granite a natural gamma source isnt it hmm nuclear powered space flight HMMMMM clever those Egyptian/Atlantean/Jews

Among the most significant restoration projects, and being achieved totally by Egyptian restorers, is the consolidation and removal of Amenhotep III's red granite scarab

Doesn't the scarab generally show a red spherical object between its legs

then theres the composition of the many many scarab jewellery relics found in the Mediterranean the vast majority being soapstone

Scarabs were made from a wide variety of materials such as carnelian, lapis lazuli, basalt, limestone, schist, turquoise, ivory, resin, steatite, and bronze. Most scarabs were made of steatite which was then covered with a turquoise coloured glaze. The stone was soft and easy to work, but when glazed, it became hard and durable.

CRYSTALINKS

The secrets in the pigment , pigments derived from copper me thinks vinegar and copper gets you tourquoise Ammonia(urine) on copper turns bright blue add some Hydrochloric Acid (stamach acid) and it goes Green.

this is particularily interesting if we are looking for ways of making maybe ancient versions of Printed circuit boards maybe using the hieroglyphs as the circuit

The term steatite is sometimes used for soapstone. It may also denote also a type of ceramic material made from soapstone with minor additives and heated to vitrify (to change or make into glass or a glassy substance, especially through heat fusion).[citation needed] It is often used as an insulator or housing for electrical components, due to its durability and electrical characteristics and because it can be pressed into complex shapes before firing. It was used for beads and seals in ancient civilizations. Steatite undergoes transformations when heated to temperatures of 1000-1200 °C into enstatite and cristobalite; in the Mohs scale, this corresponds to an increase in hardness from 1 to 5.5-6.

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An ATS board user had some questions I want to include here

"1) Why do you say Thomas is pointing to the Northern Donkey in the constellation of The Asses and the Manger, instead of Orion? TO me, the stars you have suggested he is pointing to look ALOT more like the belt stars of Orion. "

Because in all my research people are pointing to this constellation It is an asterism think holy trinity (triple)

A yod is a particular aspect configuration involving at least 3 planets (or an angle: MC/IC, or Ascendant/Descendant). Two of the planets will be sextiled (60 degrees apart) and each planet or angle in the sextile will be quincunx (150 degrees) from the third, which is the "apex" of the yod.

think of the Wreath with the apples on as an inner tube or a torus and remove the inner tube and sit where thomas is and look up its easy for me as I work in 3D animation so I tend to automatically take a 2d image and play with it in my head

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/AandM-1.wmv

Then start to think about christmas carols and see them as time coded clues rightly or wrongly I do and see through the traditionalism of them and see a more enlightening picture of advanced space travel where the son of God means as Michael Tsarion goes some way to explain means literally son of one who lives or is from the heavens where technology could afford you immortality !

Away in a manger, No crib for His bed The little Lord Jesus Laid down His sweet head The stars in the bright sky Looked down where He lay The little Lord Jesus Asleep on the hay The cattle are lowing The poor Baby wakes But little Lord Jesus No crying He makes I love Thee, Lord Jesus Look down from the sky And stay by my side, 'Til morning is nigh. Be near me, Lord Jesus, I ask Thee to stay Close by me forever And love me I pray Bless all the dear children In Thy tender care And take us to heaven To live with Thee there

something else I find quite striking is this excerp from

Visions of the Virgin Mary: An Astrological Analysis of Divine Intercession By Courtney Roberts

However, there is another, interior constellation hidden within the warmth of that embrace. From time immemorial, sky watchers also Identified the stars within this constellation as a stable, enfolding cattle, two asses and a manger Does that sound a bit familiar. Eratosthenes (276-195 BCI called this constellation the Crab, the Asses, and the Crib. In the zodiac of Denderah it is called Ktiria, or the cattle-folds. The Arab name Tegmine, for the star marking the tail of the crab, means "in the covering," or "the sheltering or hiding place." Meanwhile, in the very midst of the body of the crab lie the two stars known as the Ascelli, the northern and southern asses.

hmm another carol springs to mind !! (little donkey carry mary safetly on her way)

Two stars in the constellation are named Asellus Borealis and Asellus Australis, Latin names meaning the ‘northern ass’ and ‘southern ass’, and they have their own legend. According to Eratosthenes, during the battle between the gods and the Giants that followed the overthrow of the Titans, the gods Dionysus, Hephaestus and some companions came riding on donkeys to join the fray. The Giants had never heard the braying of donkeys before and took flight at the noise, thinking that some dreadful monster was about to be unleashed upon them. Dionysus put the asses in the sky, either side of the cluster of stars which the Greeks called Phatne, the Manger, from which the asses seem to be feeding. Ptolemy described Phatne as ‘the nebulous mass in the chest’. Astronomers now know this star cluster by its Latin name Praesepe, but it is popularly termed the Beehive (praesepe can mean both ‘manger’ and ‘hive’).

Hmm giants Titans Gods arent the titans credited for creating atlantis?

According to Solon's notes the history of Atlantis began at the beginning of time. It was then that the immortal gods divided the world among themselves and each ruled their proportion. The god Poseidon received Atlantis, an island larger the Libya and Asia combined. He chose for a wife the mortal woman Cleito, and with her begun the royal family of Atlantis

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"2) Alot of this is based on the assumption that Jesus was a real man who had a real life with siblings and so on.

I personally do not believe this to be the case for reasons which are my own (lets not start discussing this and derail the thread tho). So my question ISA is, in your opinion, does whole thing still stand up if placed into the context of Jesus never having existed as a real man. "

In no way is this a derailer if anything it is at the heart of this quest for truth was he a real man or does this story get reinvented for the power it creates for those that use the story as the basis for religion.

I believe it goes back to the image of mary that reveals the bastet

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and the fact jesus in this last supper is sat at the head of the table in the Pharos lighthouse so it makes the whole biblical story idea seem like a lie or maybe a rehashing of a much older story which has been suggested by many people before the difference is here I am going along way to prove it and there is some pretty comelling evidence not least of all this 40 mile by 60 mile scarab shaped city that is ATLANTIS

The protector of RA AMEN RA think of the word AMEN nobody seems to think twice as to why we say it but if this is based on Atlantian history obviously Jesus really was a great ruler that upset the Roman catholic Church and the Greeks and presumably the Jews he was going around telling his followers not to pay cesar his POLL TAX which oddly enough we in the UK are still paying to this day

Amen, meaning so be it, is of Hebrew origin.[6][7] The word was imported into the Greek of the early Church from the Jewish synagogue.[2][8] From Greek, amen entered the other Western languages. According to a standard dictionary etymology, amen passed from Greek into Late Latin, and thence into English.[9]

in the gospels of Saint Thomas he sounds as though he isnt a Jew

*Said-Jesus this: come-into-being as-you(pl)-pass-away. Said-they t o -him, v i z-his- \ -disciples, t his: You(sg)(are) who, that-you(sg)-speak these(things) to-us? > In-those-which-I-speak-them to-you(pl), ()you(pl)-realize not that I (am) who; > Rather, y ou(pl), have-you(pl)-come-to-be l ike -those-Judeans, for they-love the-tree, they-hate his-fruit, and they-love the-fruit, they-hate t h e -tree

Then he is quoted as saying at another part of the gospel

They-showed-JS88 a-coin, and said-they to-him this: "Those-who-belong to-Caesar, they-demand of-us the-taxes." > Said-he to-them this: "Give-that-of-Caesar to-Caesar, > give-that-of-(the)God to-(the)God, and he -who-mine is , give-to-me(him)."

Hmmm cant see that would have pleased the romans !

So as for holding up whether or not this man was real and I do believe he lived he just wasnt the person the church would have us believe hmm another quote from the coptic gospel.

* S a id-Jesus this: Perhaps they-are-thinking, viz-men, that I-have-come to-cast ( a )peace o n to-the-world, > and they-know not that I-have-come to-cast some divisions upon-the-earth - (a)fire, (a)sword, (a)war, > ( for) (there-are)five, ( ---), w ill-come-to-be in-a-house; (there-are)three will-come-to-be against two, and two against-three; the-fatheragainst-the-son, and the-son against-the-father; and th ey-will-stand t o-their-feet, t hey-being single ones.

I find it interesting about the gosples that they are written in coptic and that the first coptic church was founded in Alexandria in 1 AD !!!!

Even more interesting is one of the opening passages while we are on the subject of immortality Gods and technology

These are the-words hidden, which-Jesus who-lives spoke(them), and he-wrote-them, viz-Didymos Judas Thomas, > and said-he this: Whoever-falls onto-the-meaning of-these-words, he-will take-taste not o f(the)Death.

bearing in mind the Symbol for Cancer used by the ancient Egyptians was the Scarab Beetle This all makes a deal more sense when you contemplate my post earlier about heracles/hercules what is a legend if not a story so ancient its suffered the preverbial chinese whispers and changed over mellenia but the story that legend could well have its basis in fact that has been distorted over time.

Cancer is the sign of the summer solstice, and represents the sun at the highest point of summer. The constellation is identified with the crab, Karkinos, or Carcinus, that was sent by Hera to bite the foot of Hercules as he battled with the monstrous Hydra. Hercules crushed the crab with his foot. Hera placed the crab in the sky for this service. The crab is a symbol of powerful gripping and holding power.

According to Chaldaean and Platonist philosophy, Cancer was the 'Gate of Men' through which souls descended from heaven into human bodies, or into creation. Its opposite sign Capricorn represents the 'Gate of the Gods' where souls of the departed ascended back to heaven. Kuhn in The Lost Light explains; "in sign of Cancer the crab is emerging from the water and in Capricorn the goat (half goat or land animal, half fish or sea animal) is in the water. The crab lives part of its time on the earth, and part in the water.

Strange how this Plato keeps popping his head up and there we seem to be discussing some form of STARGATE

So could we read that The Atlantians the people from the Scarab city where Crucifix (X) marked the spot, were sent by Hera to defeat Hercules and his army and destroy him but they were crushed ??

Mythographers relate that the Lernaean Hydra and the crab were put into the sky after Hercules slew them. In an alternative version, Hera's crab was at the site to bite his feet and bother him, hoping to cause his death. Hera set it in the Zodiac to follow the Lion (Eratosthenes, Catasterismi). When the sun is in the sign of Cancer, the crab, the constellation Hydra has its head nearby.

When The sun is in the sign of the scarab and the scarab is often seen and associated with a "SOLAR" disk

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I am sorry but all I see is that Davinci knew about the Transformers...

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LOL :lol:

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Clearly, you and Weareallsuckers need to be put into a to-the-death cage match to determine who the real finder of lost Atlantis is.

--Jaylemurph

lol I do like a good death battle.........unfortunately I'm not even comprehending this one :blink: but I shall put on my helmet (and my thinking cap) and prepare for battle......... :ph34r: if I can work out what this thread is about.......admittedly I have not looked at all the pictures, so I will and see what I think....the evidence looks in depth and Jesus isn't my forte but according to what I can make out so far, the painting is in the Alexandria Lighthouse and the scarab beetle clues lead to a scarab beetle shaped rise that could have been an island in the eastern mediterranean...how is this island Atlantis? What are the similarities between it and any of Plato's description?

All looks very interesting though, I think bee would like this thread.

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Here are some other images that had 33 degrees The original location of Atlantis hidden in them

John The Baptist By Leonardo

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In this image above I find it interesting that Leonardo Hid the angle in the eyes a thing artists use all the time.

Another John the Baptist By Leonardo

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This time the finger is the angle pointer but in this picture I think a clue is his staff and the Idea that using these staffs people could levitate Ill find the info I am refering to and post it here

But that fits with these guys here in this painting by Poussin Called the tomb of christ showing 3 guys with a staff each and again we see the location hidden in angles , almost like sign language that deaf people use , I see a similarity because these people have obviously sworn oaths not to speak of these things well they have kept their oaths but found a sneeky way to tell it anyway

Tomb of Christ

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Here is A member of the Medici Family Called Maria de' Medici pointing for us again at an angle of 33 degrees. A portrait by Rubens

Maria de' Medici (French Marie de Médicis) (April 26, 1573 - July 3, 1642) was Queen and later Regent of France.

Maria de' Medici

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The connection here is that her family came to power in 1400 in florence italy through banking I was looking at 1400 because it is the wavelength of the musical note G zero I saw this as a way of putting the O back in GOD as I remember after my grandfather died I was reading through his masonic Bible/Handbook and it struck me as odd that they never wrote the word GOD always G_D and as 33 degrees struck me as coordinates because of the use of the set square and compass a sailors navigation tools that G_D seemed to be a musical note a frequency and then I found that Leonardo was friendly with this family Historically Lorenzo de Medici

Lorenzo's court included artists such as Piero and Antonio del Pollaiuolo, Andrea del Verrocchio, Leonardo da Vinci, Sandro Botticelli, Domenico Ghirlandaio, and Michelangelo Buonarroti who were involved in the 15th century Renaissance.

Lorenzo's Grandfather Cosmo started a library Which I will bet holds many clues

Cosimo had started the collection of books which became the Medici Library (also called the Laurentian Library) and Lorenzo expanded it. Lorenzo's agents retrieved from the East large numbers of classical works, and he employed a large workshop to copy his books and disseminate their content across Europe. He supported the development of humanism through his circle of scholarly friends who studied Greek philosophers, and attempted to merge the ideas of Plato with Christianity; among this group were the philosophers Marsilio Ficino and Giovanni Pico della Mirandola.

One of the images is of Geber the Alchemist pointing downwards towards 3 stones on the floor symbolising the asses and the manger constellation

This is a 15th century European portrait of "Geber", Codici Ashburnhamiani 1166, Biblioteca Medicea Laurenziana, Florence

Geber Pointing

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lol I do like a good death battle.........unfortunately I'm not even comprehending this one :blink: but I shall put on my helmet (and my thinking cap) and prepare for battle......... :ph34r: if I can work out what this thread is about.......admittedly I have not looked at all the pictures, so I will and see what I think....the evidence looks in depth and Jesus isn't my forte but according to what I can make out so far, the painting is in the Alexandria Lighthouse and the scarab beetle clues lead to a scarab beetle shaped rise that could have been an island in the eastern mediterranean...how is this island Atlantis? What are the similarities between it and any of Plato's description?

All looks very interesting though, I think bee would like this thread.

Hi Glad you are here :D , it is indepth and has taken over my life the connection with plato here is quite solid that in the same writing he talks about atlantis he also defines his fifth platonic solid the dodecahedron a twelve sided figure made of pentagon faces and his discription of it is interesting

"There still remained a fifth construction (dodecahedron),

which the god used for embroidering the constellations on the whole heaven.”

and the fact this dome in leonardos painting is a dodecahedron

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I read this as something to do with the energy of it in some way and the connection of the spaceship appearing in the image where Mary is Pregnant

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and holding the knife that appears to have cut simon peters cheek

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Concentric rings are something many refer to well heres a simple experiment to try bearing in mind the magnetic anomolie between the beetles fron legs which is where I am saying this spaceship scene is

take a strong magnet and three steel ball bearings a small one a medium sized one and a large one , stick the magnet on the large BB then attach the medium one to the large BB and finally the small one to the medium BB and pull the small one off and then reverse it so that the small BB is attached to the magnet then the medium one to the the small BB then the large one to the Medium BB and pull off the large one there is a difference in attraction strengths then imagine that they knew about this magnetic anomolie and built this concentric arrangement over it and use it to allow ships to launch and all that would require would be a reversal of the magnetic field aboard the ship and it would be repelled from the docking bay!

I know to some its far fetched but then the salvador dali with jesus posed in the left and right hand rule The fact that disney and dali worked together and that in the disney atlantis cartoon there are giant stones hovering above the city :wacko:

Then theres the fact this city is underwater :rofl:

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I admire your thinking and think this ties in with something but I'm still sort of failing to see a link with Atlantis. Is the dodecahedron the only factor? I'm not really seeing a 12 faced dodecahredron in the painting....

I don't think there was a big mystery of where it was for anyone to code it up like that........if it was a place and people of the day, with Solon near 2000 years before Da Vinci knew and the Egyptians knew, no where is it said to be a 'secret' as such..

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The 'Tomb of Christ' painting is called et in Arcadia ego. (even in Arcadia I exist) There is 2 versions of the painting.

"While the phrase "et in Arcadia ego" is a nominal phrase with no finite verb, it is a perfectly acceptable construction in Latin. Pseudohistorians unaware of that aspect of Latin grammar have concluded that the sentence is incomplete, missing a verb, and have speculated that it represents some esoteric message concealed in a (possibly anagrammatic) code. In The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, Baigent, Leigh, and Lincoln, under the false impression that "et in Arcadia ego" was not a proper Latin sentence, proposed that it is an anagram for I! Tego arcana Dei, which translates to "Begone! I keep God's secrets", suggesting that the tomb contains the remains of Jesus or another important Biblical figure. They claimed that Poussin was privy to this secret and that he depicted an actual location. The authors did not explain why the tomb depicted in the second version of the painting should contain this secret while the distinctly different one in the first version presumably does not. Ultimately, this view is dismissed by art historians."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Et_in_Arcadia_ego

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