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i believe i have video of a ghost....

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The video is creepy, and only really due to the aesthetic and random peaking and movement in the windows,

but when you think of it in a logical way there is simply no way to know if there is someone in the house or if this has been staged.

People can claim this video is fake.

People can claim this video is real.

No one knows or will know, unless someone goes into the house and there's some type of strange activity or apparition and just let me make this clear, I wouldn't suggest going into this home as it is illegal and also looks pretty run down and can possibly be dangerous.

Maybe if you go to this house again, focus on the windows and some how make the camera stationary and tape for about an hour of half hour, I'd say set it up for longer but I doubt anything would happen while really watching the windows and also OP would have to stand there the entire time so the camera can't be stolen.

As I peaked down to look at some of the post on here some people are really going over board haha oi vey.

Thanks for the post hopefully this isn't a blatant fake, it's interesting none the less, and yes there is something in the said areas but this also proves certain people will look to deeply into these videos and make something out of nothing and leave all logic and reason at the play button.

nah not a blatant fake

the reason i bumped this thread is cuz the house was demolished a week or 2 ago, it was preetty big news here

i agree some people are pointing things out that simply arent there but the things i poitned out i believe are weird, not necessarily paranormal but weird

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i dont know if anybody is familiar with the sylvia likens story....she was a young girl who was tortured and then killed back around 1965 on the eastside of indianapolis.....the movies an american crime and the girl next door were about her

well i videotaped the house, posted it on youtube.....somebody pointed out to me that around 40-45 seconds, the upper left window has a figure in it of some kind, and the shades are pulled up

now, this house was COMPLETELY SEALED when we filmed this, because we checked that......i guess it could be a squatter in the house somehow, the neighborhood is rough (i have lived there for 10 years) but i just dont see how anybody could of gotten into the house

heres the video + a stillscreen shot

http://es.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2m7dgn8&s=4

serious comments only please....i have become obsessed with this house....about a week ago i drove past it at around 4:30 AM, and as i turned east onto new york street i looked in my rearview mirror and i could of swore i saw a face in the window and the window open....i cut thru an alley and drove back to the house, and the window was shut (i have it all on tape, just havent posted it yet)

i have always believed in spirits, but was never all that interested in it until learning about the case, because the house is only about a mile away from me

please give me your input...

1 thing i definitely think is worth mentioning: the window in question at 43 seconds is the room where her body was found and where a good amount of the torturing was done

I was looking at this after seeing your post and at about the 40 second mark you can see someone in the window with the shades drawn back then the camera goes over the window again and its gone then goes back to the window a 3rd time and its like someone is leaning into it to see whose outside because it is darker and more prominent. Very interesting. As you were going around the building I did not see anyway someone could get in but if the basement was open like that then it is possible. If someone was squatting there, with all the background voices, I am sure someone would have noticed.

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two options:

you either obessed because you have nothing else to do with your time OR

you have a past time memory you may have been that little girl and now you going back to learn more about your past OR been involved in this case somehow

each of these 3 options need some careful consideration from your behalf, research topped with a possible past life regression

Are you serious? So those are the ONLY 3 options here. I think that if you can believe in past lives you are open to paranormal activity or the possibility that someone was in the house but for some reason it seems as though you are insinuating that he had something to do with her death or at least that is what it seems like to me. You may want to elaborate a bit on the assumtions you make of there only being 3 possible scenerios.

wow... ummm yah thats all I have to say. WOW...

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if that's your music playing towards the end, let me be the first to commend you for your excellent taste :D

Should I stay or should I go.... maybe that's what the girl ghost is thinking? :P

as for the curtains, could be just the reflection of a tree or something? played it back 2-3 times to see and it didn't seem "unatural" IMO

edit, again:

after viewing it 4-5 times I really can't tell. there didn't seem to be any kind of tree close by that would give that kind of reflection. but there seemed to be something in the window earlier as well.

You saw the video as well as the rest of us leading up to the house. There were 3 shots with the camera to the window. 1 looked like someone looking through blinds (not curtains), 2nd nothing at all, and the 3rd it was darker and more prominent. I saw no trees in the same video feed that you viewed.

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Are you serious? So those are the ONLY 3 options here. I think that if you can believe in past lives you are open to paranormal activity or the possibility that someone was in the house but for some reason it seems as though you are insinuating that he had something to do with her death or at least that is what it seems like to me. You may want to elaborate a bit on the assumtions you make of there only being 3 possible scenerios.

wow... ummm yah thats all I have to say. WOW...

sure there coulda been someone in the house.

but not a ghost.

and this video is definitetly not proof of one. seeing as you cant see jack in the video.

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Ive read the whole thread and honestly, i really hope that poor little girl has moved on and she isnt still trapped in there.

The video is very very interesting however.

I would have loved to have investigated that house further, but i believe the house has been knocked down now?

Also, I totally heard that scream and the faint noises when the footage is of inside of the basement.

It's so creepy; I just hope for sylivia's sake it's not her and instead its her mother suffering in torment.

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you have a past time memory

Well, most of us try to remember our past times. Or else we'd have no hobbies, and what a boring life that would be!

Or do you mean past lives? :huh:

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Yep..I'm sure I saw something!

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Hello, I'm new here. Forgive me for bumping this old thread. >.< I got curious.

I've watched the video...and read people's comments on the video you posted. I know I'm not the only one who've seen this but is that the blood that dripping down in last two windows (from the right) in 45 sec after the face showed in the third window (the very left one)?

Also, a lot of people saying that someone whispered in the video, "keep looking", in the basement part...I'm hearing impaired so I wouldn't know if it is true or not. O_O

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I spotted this:

house1.jpg

house2.jpg

house4.jpg

house5.jpg

Which could easily be someone running to (then away) from the window. Looks like someone in a dark blue or black T-shirt, and his left arm, curved at the elbow, in a jogging motion. If you watch from 1:17 to 1:18 and loop it, you can easily see it's someone jogging to and away from the window. It's easier to see in motion, than from stills taken from the video (it's poor quality.) But its enough to show what I'm seeing.

So, I'm gonna have to call Shenanigans on this one.

-Akaebeel

keep it up man

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I spotted this:

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Akaebeel/house1.jpg" border='0' alt='linked-image'>

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Akaebeel/house2.jpg" border='0' alt='linked-image'>

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Akaebeel/house4.jpg" border='0' alt='linked-image'>

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Akaebeel/house5.jpg" border='0' alt='linked-image'>

Which could easily be someone running to (then away) from the window. Looks like someone in a dark blue or black T-shirt, and his left arm, curved at the elbow, in a jogging motion. If you watch from 1:17 to 1:18 and loop it, you can easily see it's someone jogging to and away from the window. It's easier to see in motion, than from stills taken from the video (it's poor quality.) But its enough to show what I'm seeing.

So, I'm gonna have to call Shenanigans on this one.

-Akaebeel

I noticed the same thing, but after looking at it a few times I thought it was a reflection on the window. One of the comments on Youtube said something about hearing a voice say "keep looking" at 1:30 in the clip. Could be the power of suggestion of course, because I didn't hear it the first time I watched, but I definitely heard it when I listened for it the second time. It is a creepy place. I imagine neighborhood kids dare each other to go up close.

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ghoooooostssssss so fearfuful ah-ah-ah-haaaaannnnnn mummmy

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Interesting video. I agree with Aanica, that you are probably sensitive (definitely compassionate) toward spirits and need to protect yourself from attachments when exploring the paranormal; as they can and do on rare occasion follow people home (although it seems that most of the time they are attached to their present environment for whatever reason). You unfortunately may find that people who have not experienced the paranormal, all too often dismiss any experience or photo as anything but paranormal. Try not to become discouraged when comments about your motives or frame of mind are expressed; you know what you saw and how you feel. Obviously, there are people who have issues and might need professional help, I do not however for one minute believe you are one of those unfortunate souls. Thanks for sharing your story and the video, and remember when precautions are made for protection and against evidence contamination there is no reason not to investigate further. Perhaps there is a local paranormal team that you could contact for further insights and possible evidence comparison.? Good Luck.

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Interesting video. I agree with Aanica, that you are probably sensitive (definitely compassionate) toward spirits and need to protect yourself from attachments when exploring the paranormal; as they can and do on rare occasion follow people home (although it seems that most of the time they are attached to their present environment for whatever reason). You unfortunately may find that people who have not experienced the paranormal, all too often dismiss any experience or photo as anything but paranormal. Try not to become discouraged when comments about your motives or frame of mind are expressed; you know what you saw and how you feel. Obviously, there are people who have issues and might need professional help, I do not however for one minute believe you are one of those unfortunate souls. Thanks for sharing your story and the video, and remember when precautions are made for protection and against evidence contamination there is no reason not to investigate further. Perhaps there is a local paranormal team that you could contact for further insights and possible evidence comparison.? Good Luck.

Do you know why they will get looked at logically and dismissed?

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I spotted this:

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Akaebeel/house1.jpg" border='0' alt='linked-image'>

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Akaebeel/house2.jpg" border='0' alt='linked-image'>

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Akaebeel/house4.jpg" border='0' alt='linked-image'>

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Akaebeel/house5.jpg" border='0' alt='linked-image'>

Which could easily be someone running to (then away) from the window. Looks like someone in a dark blue or black T-shirt, and his left arm, curved at the elbow, in a jogging motion. If you watch from 1:17 to 1:18 and loop it, you can easily see it's someone jogging to and away from the window. It's easier to see in motion, than from stills taken from the video (it's poor quality.) But its enough to show what I'm seeing.

So, I'm gonna have to call Shenanigans on this one.

-Akaebeel

Personally it looks like a reflection of a cloud.

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It's the light on the ceiling shining down at us all.

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<!--quoteo(post=2390266:date=Jul 12 2008, 12:56 PM:name=Javier)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Javier @ Jul 12 2008, 12:56 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2390266"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i don't know if anybody is familiar with the sylvia likens story....she was a young girl who was tortured and then killed back around 1965 on the eastside of indianapolis.....the movies an american crime and the girl next door were about her

well i videotaped the house, posted it on youtube.....somebody pointed out to me that around 40-45 seconds, the upper left window has a figure in it of some kind, and the shades are pulled up

now, this house was COMPLETELY SEALED when we filmed this, because we checked that......i guess it could be a squatter in the house somehow, the neighborhood is rough (i have lived there for 10 years) but i just dont see how anybody could of gotten into the house

heres the video + a stillscreen shot

<a href="

target="_blank">

<a href="http://es.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2m7dgn8&s=4" target="_blank">http://es.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2m7dgn8&s=4</a>

serious comments only please....i have become obsessed with this house....about a week ago i drove past it at around 4:30 AM, and as i turned east onto new york street i looked in my rearview mirror and i could of swore i saw a face in the window and the window open....i cut thru an alley and drove back to the house, and the window was shut (i have it all on tape, just havent posted it yet)

i have always believed in spirits, but was never all that interested in it until learning about the case, because the house is only about a mile away from me

please give me your input...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

two options:

you either obessed because you have nothing else to do with your time OR

you have a past time memory you may have been that little girl and now you going back to learn more about your past OR been involved in this case somehow

each of these 3 options need some careful consideration from your behalf, research topped with a possible past life regression

You are an ******* :no:

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Ok, so I've spent 2 days reading this thread, the trutv back story of the case and watching the video over and over and pausing it as fast as I could, taking screen shots at 400% and then describing what I saw in each of the windows. My dishes are a mile high, my baby forgot who I was and my husband thinks I'm having an online affair. Not really, that's why it's taken me so long.

Anyways, I'm the kind of person that Agent Mulder could make see something in that pitch black basement and I could totally see all the things people were saying they saw the first time I watched but then I started pausing looking for good shots of all those things to show my husband. I quickly QUICKLY could see that it wasn't curtains or blinds, it was the sun and sky in those windows. 26 pages into this thread someone finally said it was that. There are no curtains on that room she died in, there are blinds as evidenced in the video from the inside. That video also showed no blinds in the bathroom but you would think there were blinds on that window from the outside video. Why would a squatter who pulled them down b/c someone with a camera was coming then go back and pull them back up a few minutes after that person had done some serious poking around and said squatter had followed them around watching what they were doing? The blinds were doing nothing, it was the effect of the sun and sky. In all my pausing and noting the 'blinds' would be up in one frame and down in the other, many within the same second of the video. Watch the windows, not just that one window on the left and you will see how most look like the blinds are down or curtains are closed and then when he gets closer it's obvious there was nothing in the window but the reflection of light. And don't forget that the left window, as well as the middle window have a molding on the inside on the top halfs of them and even those seem to disappear at times. Blinds wouldn't block these out but a reflection of the sun or sky would.

In my screen shot of the 42nd second I get the 'face' and 'split in the blinds'. With the window appearing to have the blinds down.

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Then for the 43rd and 44th seconds the window leaves the frame and comes back on the 45th second and the window now appears to have the blinds all the way up and you can even see the blinds gathered at the top of the window.

45aon.jpg

in just 3 seconds the blinds went from down and ripped in the center with a ghost peeking through to up and nothing unusual. Forget the ghost though, the blinds were jerked up in 3 seconds flat by the vagrants that don't want to be found out.

Now in the 46th second, just 1 second later the window appears to have the blinds down and some blob peeking through.

46dm.jpg

Is this the ghost of Mickey Mouse now looking out the window?

The spot where someone 'splits' the blinds down the middle is most likely a phone/electric pole. The 'face' is the reflection of a tree or maybe a transformer although I didn't see a transformer on google maps, however the house was torn down in that photo so no telling what else had been torn down. I can clearly tell that some of the reflections are trees. There are some things I can't explain, true, but I firmly believe there is nothing paranormal captured here, just a sad stigmatised house with natural reflections in the window.

The 'person' in the window on the other side is most likely a cloud. If clouds aren't the culprit then the place is also haunted by a massive dragonfly ghost and a dinosaur as seen in the left window on the side of the house. (I thought I inserted a picture, but guess not, so I posted it as an attachment, sorry if it double posts). Btw, the windows in 1:17 are the only windows that I see that could possibly have curtains, as in fabric, on the window and not just blinds and I don't think I saw these windows on the video taken from the inside so we may never know.

I have 114 screen shots of this video paused at different spots. I did it 99% for myself but the notes were for anybody here that would like to see my lunacy. Javier, if you're still around I'd love to share all this with you and make you feel better about what you think you may or may not have seen and hopefully lay future wonders to rest for you.

It's a super sad story and situation and it wouldn't have surprised me to see something, I was looking for the ghost. I go in looking for the ghosts and then sometimes I try to reason it out and other times I find it more fun to go on thinking it was a ghost but this time I didn't see a ghost or a face or even curtains, just reflections of sun, clouds, the sky, trees and possibly other buildings and electric poles.

Like I said, I will gladdly email you all this. All my pictures and notes are marked for the second they are taken in so I will be happy to share just the seconds you have questions of. And I'll share just the pictures if you'd rather not read my crazy notes and make your own decisions based off just my screen shots.

I hope nobody took this as me being mean, I'm just shocked that so many people didn't see this and I of all people did.

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Edited by illegally blonde

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I checked out the video and at 1:45 start clicking 10th of a second at a time and a glowing shape appears from the right it the last 10th of a second in 1:46

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I'm a believer of such things, but to be honest 1:18 looks like the reflection of a cloud

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Ok, so I've spent 2 days reading this thread, the trutv back story of the case and watching the video over and over and pausing it as fast as I could, taking screen shots at 400% and then describing what I saw in each of the windows. My dishes are a mile high, my baby forgot who I was and my husband thinks I'm having an online affair. Not really, that's why it's taken me so long.

Anyways, I'm the kind of person that Agent Mulder could make see something in that pitch black basement and I could totally see all the things people were saying they saw the first time I watched but then I started pausing looking for good shots of all those things to show my husband. I quickly QUICKLY could see that it wasn't curtains or blinds, it was the sun and sky in those windows. 26 pages into this thread someone finally said it was that. There are no curtains on that room she died in, there are blinds as evidenced in the video from the inside. That video also showed no blinds in the bathroom but you would think there were blinds on that window from the outside video. Why would a squatter who pulled them down b/c someone with a camera was coming then go back and pull them back up a few minutes after that person had done some serious poking around and said squatter had followed them around watching what they were doing? The blinds were doing nothing, it was the effect of the sun and sky. In all my pausing and noting the 'blinds' would be up in one frame and down in the other, many within the same second of the video. Watch the windows, not just that one window on the left and you will see how most look like the blinds are down or curtains are closed and then when he gets closer it's obvious there was nothing in the window but the reflection of light. And don't forget that the left window, as well as the middle window have a molding on the inside on the top halfs of them and even those seem to disappear at times. Blinds wouldn't block these out but a reflection of the sun or sky would.

In my screen shot of the 42nd second I get the 'face' and 'split in the blinds'. With the window appearing to have the blinds down.

42ab.jpg

Then for the 43rd and 44th seconds the window leaves the frame and comes back on the 45th second and the window now appears to have the blinds all the way up and you can even see the blinds gathered at the top of the window.

45aon.jpg

in just 3 seconds the blinds went from down and ripped in the center with a ghost peeking through to up and nothing unusual. Forget the ghost though, the blinds were jerked up in 3 seconds flat by the vagrants that don't want to be found out.

Now in the 46th second, just 1 second later the window appears to have the blinds down and some blob peeking through.

46dm.jpg

Is this the ghost of Mickey Mouse now looking out the window?

The spot where someone 'splits' the blinds down the middle is most likely a phone/electric pole. The 'face' is the reflection of a tree or maybe a transformer although I didn't see a transformer on google maps, however the house was torn down in that photo so no telling what else had been torn down. I can clearly tell that some of the reflections are trees. There are some things I can't explain, true, but I firmly believe there is nothing paranormal captured here, just a sad stigmatised house with natural reflections in the window.

The 'person' in the window on the other side is most likely a cloud. If clouds aren't the culprit then the place is also haunted by a massive dragonfly ghost and a dinosaur as seen in the left window on the side of the house. (I thought I inserted a picture, but guess not, so I posted it as an attachment, sorry if it double posts). Btw, the windows in 1:17 are the only windows that I see that could possibly have curtains, as in fabric, on the window and not just blinds and I don't think I saw these windows on the video taken from the inside so we may never know.

I have 114 screen shots of this video paused at different spots. I did it 99% for myself but the notes were for anybody here that would like to see my lunacy. Javier, if you're still around I'd love to share all this with you and make you feel better about what you think you may or may not have seen and hopefully lay future wonders to rest for you.

It's a super sad story and situation and it wouldn't have surprised me to see something, I was looking for the ghost. I go in looking for the ghosts and then sometimes I try to reason it out and other times I find it more fun to go on thinking it was a ghost but this time I didn't see a ghost or a face or even curtains, just reflections of sun, clouds, the sky, trees and possibly other buildings and electric poles.

Like I said, I will gladdly email you all this. All my pictures and notes are marked for the second they are taken in so I will be happy to share just the seconds you have questions of. And I'll share just the pictures if you'd rather not read my crazy notes and make your own decisions based off just my screen shots.

I hope nobody took this as me being mean, I'm just shocked that so many people didn't see this and I of all people did.

Great job. You should be a detective.

I'm sure no one would think you mean for trying to find out if all this can be real.

Once again great job. Now go kiss your hubby and feed your kids. lol

Just joking ya.

Much Respect.

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....1:46

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I checked out the video and at 1:45 start clicking 10th of a second at a time and a glowing shape appears from the right it the last 10th of a second in 1:46

Is it this?

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Is it this?

click faster stopping inbetween, its very fast it pops in and out at the very end of 1:46 I took a photo so you"ll know what your looking for ,I dont know how to take it straight off utube or do what you did,so I just took a photo off screen and crop it, so I could bring it to 250 k,

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click faster stopping inbetween, its very fast it pops in and out at the very end of 1:46 I took a photo so you"ll know what your looking for ,I dont know how to take it straight off utube or do what you did,so I just took a photo off screen and crop it, so I could bring it to 250 k,

I can't tell you what that is or even what it likely may be because it's such a quick blur almost. However there are 2 porches as this house was a duplex. They are right next to each other, I found this out on the other video posted on this thread where people got into the house. They got in through a huge opening in the porch not shown in detail on this video. So it could have been light coming in through that porch. My guess is that at the time the first video was taken, the one showing this blur, the other porch had some openings but not as big or what have you as there is much more light in the second video where they got in. In the second video they do put the camera in the same opening and I clicked through that but it didn't help me. You should give it a go, maybe you will see something. I've read alot of people saying they have heard sounds during the basement part of the video and I know atleast 1 said it was during this part, that was only a few pages back. I didn't hear anything but I wasn't really trying. Maybe it is actually something. I'd believe it from this house and it's story!

here's the video from a few pages back when someone went in and I'm attaching a picture from that video that shows the 2 porches on the house.

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