kmt_sesh Posted April 4, 2017 #26 Share Posted April 4, 2017 3 hours ago, back to earth said: yes, since that time of 8 years ago things have moved on We have now seen the cities on Saturn - there is a huge hexagonal one at the pole . Oh, damn, so that's where Atlantis is! In other news, this is a very old, stale, defunct, moribund thread. Whe are we necroposting it? I certainly would never do such a thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ba Rollo Posted April 4, 2017 #27 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Love that post that puts everyone in Europe at the same time! That's great!!! Pretty much, can find information to say whatever we want. I'm answering the dude that asked for 'proof of Semitism.' Haplogroup I (Y-DNA) I is the oldest haplogroup in Europe...It is thought to have arrived from the Middle East as haplogroup IJ ....and developed into haplogroup I .. Nowadays haplogroup I accounts for 10 to 45% of the population in most of Europe. It is divided in four main subclades. Abraham was an 'IJ.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ba Rollo Posted April 4, 2017 #28 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Abraham was from Ur, right? A Sumerian Priest King? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ba Rollo Posted April 4, 2017 #29 Share Posted April 4, 2017 All those Sumerian dudes took the god name, Saturn. Solomon wrote Ecclesiastes. Probably spent too much time in the wilderness - jacked 'em up. He wrote Ecclesiastes 11:7. We have 7-11 and it's 'always open.' The passage says it's fun to look at the Sun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ba Rollo Posted April 4, 2017 #30 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Bunch a stuff on the Sumerians having come from South America. A name for 'em. Don't know if I buy that one. At least, not w/out a stopover in Egypt first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted April 4, 2017 #31 Share Posted April 4, 2017 12 minutes ago, Ba Rollo said: Love that post that puts everyone in Europe at the same time! That's great!!! Pretty much, can find information to say whatever we want. I'm answering the dude that asked for 'proof of Semitism.' Haplogroup I (Y-DNA) I is the oldest haplogroup in Europe...It is thought to have arrived from the Middle East as haplogroup IJ ....and developed into haplogroup I .. Nowadays haplogroup I accounts for 10 to 45% of the population in most of Europe. It is divided in four main subclades. Abraham was an 'IJ.' Haplogroup IJ coming from the Middle East and spllitting into I and J doesn't make it, haplogroup I, Semitic any more than all DNA haplogroups ultimately originating from Africa make them African. It doesn't work that way. cormac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ba Rollo Posted April 4, 2017 #32 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Many websites say what's pasted above. Are they all wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylemurph Posted April 4, 2017 #33 Share Posted April 4, 2017 3 hours ago, Ba Rollo said: Many websites say what's pasted above. Are they all wrong? We have zero evidence anyone other than you is peddling this misinformation. Besides, you seem to imply that repetetion somehow equates to correctness. Unless you work in advertising, that's profoundly ignorant or profoundlt naive. I'm not sure which. --Jaylemurph 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted April 4, 2017 #34 Share Posted April 4, 2017 4 hours ago, Ba Rollo said: Abraham was from Ur, right? A Sumerian Priest King? And Harry Potter went to school at Hogwarts in Scotland Fictional charaters - whether from 2,000 or 20 years ago - are still fictional 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted April 4, 2017 #35 Share Posted April 4, 2017 4 hours ago, Ba Rollo said: Bunch a stuff on the Sumerians having come from South America. A name for 'em. Don't know if I buy that one. At least, not w/out a stopover in Egypt first. How and why would they come from South America? Is that why they have no connection in terms of appearance or culture (or dna - since you like that) with peoples from the Americans circa 3,500BC? And surely they would have had a stop over in Australia and India en route? Or mid Africa? Egypt is way off. I think we can agree that whatever you have read elsewhere, its utter nonsense 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totah Dine Posted April 4, 2017 #36 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Anyone else getting a sock puppet vibe.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ba Rollo Posted April 4, 2017 #37 Share Posted April 4, 2017 I think of Abraham as AB RAM. Would imagine it's a metaphorical name linking their worship of the Pleiades. The Pleiades is painted in some of the BC caves too. Still trying to figure out how. Here's a seemingly smart dude that says he was, 'The son of a Sumerian Oracle Priest.' Have read some of his project. Very interesting. http://www.biblesearchers.com/ancients/patriarch/abram1.shtml 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ba Rollo Posted April 4, 2017 #38 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Here's one, though I've seen other sources that confirm it for me. I'll look for a better one. http://www.atlantisbolivia.org/boliviaandthesumerianconnection.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ba Rollo Posted April 4, 2017 #39 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Here's Abraham. They have him as an IJK guy. Have seen elsewhere where he's just 'IJ.' Have you seen this stuff before? http://alternativegenhist.blogspot.com/2016/07/y-dna-and-mt-dna-trees-from-family-of.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ba Rollo Posted April 4, 2017 #40 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Perhaps more of a connection than thought. Someone found a way to write a whole book on it. There are some good links, if I find, will post. https://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Scripts-South-America-Sumerians/dp/1519257546 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsec Posted April 4, 2017 #41 Share Posted April 4, 2017 5 hours ago, Ba Rollo said: Many websites say what's pasted above. Are they all wrong? Do those many websites also say that Abraham was haplogroup IJ? Or did you add that last part? Now, let's pretend for a minute to follow what you write: how would you know Abraham's haplogroup, considering that there's no relative alive and we don't even know if he ever existed? Where did you get that piece of information and how can you believe it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted April 4, 2017 #42 Share Posted April 4, 2017 5 hours ago, Ba Rollo said: Many websites say what's pasted above. Are they all wrong? So you don't actually understand what's being/been said in the genetics studies behind such claims, you just parrot the BS. Thanks for acknowledging that. cormac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsec Posted April 4, 2017 #43 Share Posted April 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Ba Rollo said: http://www.biblesearchers.com/ancients/patriarch/abram1.shtml 1 hour ago, Ba Rollo said: http://www.atlantisbolivia.org/boliviaandthesumerianconnection.htm 51 minutes ago, Ba Rollo said: http://alternativegenhist.blogspot.com/2016/07/y-dna-and-mt-dna-trees-from-family-of.html Sorry, but that's utter gibberish. They daw connections where they see fit (while there's none) and mix real research with their own biased ideas, placing them on the same level. If done in good faith it's naive, methodologically wrong and potentially delusional; if done on purpose, it's the worst kind of lies. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ba Rollo Posted April 4, 2017 #44 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Fair enough. Appreciate you thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Spartan Posted April 5, 2017 #45 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Bah!! Sheesh!! a bunch of necroposters. Bah!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmt_sesh Posted April 6, 2017 #46 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Spartan! Where in the hell have you been? Can't be Sparta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Spartan Posted April 6, 2017 #47 Share Posted April 6, 2017 11 hours ago, kmt_sesh said: Spartan! Where in the hell have you been? Can't be Sparta. I have eventually shifted to Qatar. lying in wait for 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted April 6, 2017 #48 Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) On 4/3/2017 at 4:22 PM, back to earth said: I like the "Nail unbender", I hope some are still available on Amazon!!! Edited April 6, 2017 by DieChecker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted April 6, 2017 #49 Share Posted April 6, 2017 4 hours ago, The_Spartan said: I have eventually shifted to Qatar. lying in wait for 2020. Hmmmm, so they finally chased you out of Abu Dhabi once they determined you were intent on replacing the royal family with a carton of frozen kebabs? You rascal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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