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Electoral colledge


Omnaka

Stop the electoral colledge?  

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  1. 1. Do you think we need the electoral Colledge

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    • No
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    • Let wall street figure it out
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    • I don't know
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    • Let those in power decide who should be the next president
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I've always thought it should be one person one vote. although it looks like the electoral collage as well as popular ( not by much of a margin but enough) will go to Obama , I still say one person one vote.

as of yesterday Obama 338 McCain 185 Ties 15 points

Obama is likely ahead in enough states right now to get 270 electoral votes.

Obama is leading McCain 51-43 in Florida, 50-42 in Ohio, and 54-39 in Pennsylvania, according to a new Quinnipiac University poll released today.

There is some evidence that voters believe Obama has been a steadier hand in this crisis than McCain, including our latest ABC News/Washington Post poll, which found the Democratic presidential candidate has a 14-point lead over McCain in trust to handle the economy.

The second reason for Obama's lead is the first presidential debate held last Friday in Mississippi. Most polls show that Obama won the debate.

Other polls in Florida confirm a lead for Obama, including a Suffolk University poll of Florida voters showing Obama leading McCain 46-42.

Time/CNN has another poll out today that has Obama leading McCain 51-47 in Florida, 54 - 43 in Minnesota, 49 -48 in Missouri, 51-47 in Nevada, and a stunning nine percentage point lead in Virginia of 53 to 44.

However neither campaign believes that Obama has that kind of a lead in Virginia right now.

But both campaigns see a shift in these key battleground states toward Obama.

National Polls

There are ten national polls to report today! Obama leads them all. Here they are.

- Battleground (Obama +2)

- CBS (Obama +9)

- Diageo (Obama +5)

- Gallup (Obama +4)

- GfK/Roper (Obama +7)

- Ipsos (Obama +3)

- Opinion Research (Obama +7)

- Pew (Obama +6)

- Rasmussen (Obama +6)

- Research 2000 (Obama +10)

still, a month away.........................

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Probably not. :no:

QUOTE (BlindMessiah @ Oct 2 2008, 03:22 AM) *

I can't believe 52.94% voted for abolishing the system. Do those who voted for abolishing it even understand it or its purpose?

why not ?? a vote is a vote. if the government is for and by the people why should one area of votes be worth more than another ? if the majority of voters vote one way that is the way it should go.

if the electoral vote is to balance between populated and rural areas why don't more politicians spend time in Montana ? instead they stump in states with more electoral votes. same difference as if there were no electoral process.

plenty of solid argument out there against the electorate collage. like maybe more people would actually vote. Maybe 3rd parties would have a better chance.

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QUOTE (BlindMessiah @ Oct 2 2008, 03:22 AM) *

I can't believe 52.94% voted for abolishing the system. Do those who voted for abolishing it even understand it or its purpose?

why not ?? a vote is a vote. if the government is for and by the people why should one area of votes be worth more than another ? if the majority of voters vote one way that is the way it should go.

Do you want to abolish the senate as well?

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the senate isn't the presidency. popular vote works there.

Hmm? You didn't answer the question. Do you want to remove the senate and only leave the congress to settle legislative issues?

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Hmm? You didn't answer the question. Do you want to remove the senate and only leave the congress to settle legislative issues?

no. 2 senators from each state represent well.

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no. 2 senators from each state represent well.

Exactly. Same number of representatives, for Alaska, as California. It protects all fifty states. In the congress it is simply based on population. If we didn't have both houses, small states would be ignored. The same reason we need the electoral college.

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Exactly. Same number of representatives, for Alaska, as California. It protects all fifty states. In the congress it is simply based on population. If we didn't have both houses, small states would be ignored. The same reason we need the electoral college.

but those small states are ignored now as well.

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but those small states are ignored now as well.

And that is with the electoral college. It would be much worse without it. The senate and electoral college are needed to prevent mob rule. Just like we need laws protecting minorities from majorities. I mean right now gays can't get married because most Americans are opposed to it. However gay's rights should be protected by law. It's the same thing here. We have to prevent mob rule. As Thomas Jefferson said, pure democracy is nothing more than 51% oppressing 49%.

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