Novo Posted March 21, 2004 #1 Share Posted March 21, 2004 Lets all team up and pick, sides im convinced theres a afterlife of some sort.. although unlikely the christian one... if my concisnous ever ceases to be then will I realize it? I would have to would I not? but then I would be aware again!.. anyway Im not here to tell you wich side to pick.. so someone give us a good arguement to give us started! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doomgirl Posted March 21, 2004 #2 Share Posted March 21, 2004 I'm sure there is an after life of some kind, I mean after all, that would explain ghost's and spirit sightings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychicPenguin Posted March 21, 2004 #3 Share Posted March 21, 2004 Well.. if ghosts are what remains from us after death, this world is a very haunted place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nancy Posted March 21, 2004 #4 Share Posted March 21, 2004 I'm not one to chose sides or argue............ However, I am convinced that there is Life after Death. doomgirl has a good point. How else can "spirits" and "ghosts" be explained? Personally, I have had 'contact' from family members that have passed on. Yep, could be my imagination, but I am convinced otherwise. One last thought? What purpose would our lives here have, if there is nothing later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathory Posted March 21, 2004 #5 Share Posted March 21, 2004 my concisnous ever ceases to be then will I realize it? I would have to would I not? but then I would be aware again! tell me, what was it like before you were born? How else can "spirits" and "ghosts" be explained? well we don't even know what ghosts are, its just an assumption that they are dead things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druidus Posted March 21, 2004 #6 Share Posted March 21, 2004 Many people could say they are time-lapses and that they are people from the past or future. Either that or beings from other dimensions. Or dead creatures. I believe in a reincarnation again and again in different forms until we learn enough to go to the next realm with new creatures. If we forget lessons we go back realms. The bottom realm would be like the Catholic version of Hell, but not for eternity. The top realm would be akin to Catholic Heaven but without eternity and there still would be some strive, strife and loss. After the top realm you would return to the Source. A good analogy is that the Source is a huge flame, and we are all sparks from it. All beings, not just humans reincarnate and move up. In fact, when you reincarnate you may be another type of animal, so be careful when you're creul to animals they might be relatives. The creatures in the Higher planes would be Gods to us, some having the ability to affect the lower realms. Our realm right now is considered to be lower-middle realm. We have a helluva way to go! After a very long time of ecstacy as a part of the Source, we reincarnate again. In the lowest realm. It is inevitable and sad but we need to learn more. After every life we live in the Otherworld; an exact replica of the world we live in now but very unstable, so you may enter a door and end up somewhere else. When a child is born mourning should occur before celebration, because something had to die to return to life. Anyway, thats enough rambling for me . Goodnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon Posted March 21, 2004 #7 Share Posted March 21, 2004 How else can "spirits" and "ghosts" be explained? well we don't even know what ghosts are, its just an assumption that they are dead things bathory's right, could be inter- or intra- dimension shifts, or scenes from the past (there's a big theory about seeing images from the past but I don't now much about it), insanity or even drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon Posted March 21, 2004 #8 Share Posted March 21, 2004 (edited) Many people could say they are time-lapses and that they are people from the past ... Either that or beings from other dimensions. Ack! Druidus posted my argument before me Edited March 21, 2004 by Talon S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenojjin Posted March 21, 2004 #9 Share Posted March 21, 2004 This is a subject where personal experience comes into play as well ... after what Ive been through the idea that life after death exists is about as obvious to me as the fact that I have a left thumb . It seems the best argument against life after death is that people want to believe it . But the problem with that is the "People want it" psychology can be applied to almost anything slightly considered good . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychicPenguin Posted March 21, 2004 #10 Share Posted March 21, 2004 .. the title says After life vs no life .. well.. obviously there is life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenojjin Posted March 21, 2004 #11 Share Posted March 21, 2004 .. the title says After life vs no life .. well.. obviously there is life rather then going by it literally , I think its best to stick to what S&A really ment to say. Afterlife Vs no afterlife . Or "Is their life after death" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychicPenguin Posted March 21, 2004 #12 Share Posted March 21, 2004 Anyway... I don't know the answer... but I hope there is afterlife. However no afterlife is better than the Christian version of afterlife... at least for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkMonkey Posted March 22, 2004 #13 Share Posted March 22, 2004 Every society, from all over the world, through out time have believed in an afterlife, using it as a means to govern the peoples morality, and keep them in check. Since all cultures idea of an afterlife differ widely then it is safe to assume that there isn't "ONE" afterlife that people from all over the ages have tapped into and based their afterlife on it. So if people haven't tapped into it, then I can only assume it as a man made idea that originated independantly to make the infinately scary prospect of death seem less frightening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC09 Posted March 22, 2004 #14 Share Posted March 22, 2004 However no afterlife is better than the Christian version of afterlife... at least for me That's a surprising comment, coming from you. No offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC09 Posted March 22, 2004 #15 Share Posted March 22, 2004 Many people could say they are time-lapses and that they are people from the past ... Either that or beings from other dimensions. And all that is so much more believable than our conciousness surviving after death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychicPenguin Posted March 22, 2004 #16 Share Posted March 22, 2004 However no afterlife is better than the Christian version of afterlife... at least for me That's a surprising comment, coming from you. No offense. I'm not offended WorkMonkey... just because the details are contradictory, it doesn't mean that the main idea is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathory Posted March 22, 2004 #17 Share Posted March 22, 2004 And all that is so much more believable than our conciousness surviving after death. that wasn't the point someone stated that ghosts exist therefore it must be plainly obvious an afterlife exists, however we don't even know what 'ghosts' really are, which means that the arguement was flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC09 Posted March 22, 2004 #18 Share Posted March 22, 2004 And all that is so much more believable than our conciousness surviving after death. that wasn't the point someone stated that ghosts exist therefore it must be plainly obvious an afterlife exists, however we don't even know what 'ghosts' really are, which means that the arguement was flawed. Alrighty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DespondentDave Posted March 22, 2004 #19 Share Posted March 22, 2004 Every society, from all over the world, through out time have believed in an afterlife, using it as a means to govern the peoples morality, and keep them in check. Since all cultures idea of an afterlife differ widely then it is safe to assume that there isn't "ONE" afterlife that people from all over the ages have tapped into and based their afterlife on it. So if people haven't tapped into it, then I can only assume it as a man made idea that originated independantly to make the infinately scary prospect of death seem less frightening. Seems the most plausible idea to me I'm afraid! Game over! Frightening as ****! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kismit Posted March 22, 2004 #20 Share Posted March 22, 2004 So which would you prefer , to burn forever in Hell.. Or just to cease entirely to exsist ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychicPenguin Posted March 22, 2004 #21 Share Posted March 22, 2004 Yup.. game over is much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkMonkey Posted March 22, 2004 #22 Share Posted March 22, 2004 So which would you prefer , to burn forever in Hell.. Or just to cease entirely to exsist ? Cease entirely, You wouldn't be aware of it, so whats the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diebytheflyguy Posted March 26, 2004 #23 Share Posted March 26, 2004 tell me, what was it like before you were born? Good point; I've used that one before. So since we cannot remember what happened before or during or a few months or years after our birth does this mean that if we die we are being born again into some other world or subconscious state? Scientest say that energy cannot be created nor destroyed. Since I truly believe in science I must say that we do live on. On the other hand I dont think we go to a marvelous place like heaven but our bodies just cease to exist. Therefore we are living in an "afterlife," but pretty much consciously unaware of anything. After death we will just be a mass of energy splitting and traveling wherever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathory Posted March 27, 2004 #24 Share Posted March 27, 2004 you are assuming that the energy that makes up 'us', is something more than just run of the mill energy, the way i see it, you need the brain and the energy to make the person, not just the energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectral Posted March 27, 2004 #25 Share Posted March 27, 2004 There might be many different types of ghosts, recordings imprinted on the landscape, time shifts, intra dimensional etc but some do seem, at least based on anecdotal evidence to be conscious, interacting spirits existing after death. Personally I can't remember any awareness before I was born then again I can't remember anything in utero but I know I existed. If we're talking about whats preferable Afterlife/no afterlife then I'd prefer afterlife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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