UM-Bot Posted January 8, 2009 #1 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Richard Dawkins – author of The Selfish Gene and The God Delusion – muses on the effect of breaking down the barrier between humans and animals, perhaps by the creation of a chimera in a lab or a "successful hybridisation between a human and a chimpanzee". Dawkins: "Our ethics and our politics assume, largely without question or serious discussion, that the division between human and 'animal' is absolute. 'Pro-life', to take just one example, is a potent political badge, associated with a gamut of ethical issues such as opposition to abortion and euthanasia. What it really means is pro-human-life. Abortion clinic bombers are not known for their veganism, nor do Roman Catholics show any particular reluctance to have their suffering pets 'put to sleep'. In the minds of many confused people, a single-celled human zygote, which has no nerves and cannot suffer, is infinitely sacred, simply because it is 'human'. No other cells enjoy this exalted status."View: Full Article | Source: Guardian Unlimited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crai Posted January 8, 2009 #2 Share Posted January 8, 2009 If we broke down the barrier between us and animals, wouldn't that mean we're equals? Some would be appalled at this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosewin Posted January 8, 2009 #3 Share Posted January 8, 2009 It is sickening and repulsive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S2F Posted January 8, 2009 #4 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I think this is one of those classic cases of let's not ask if we can, instead let's ask if we should. The answer, in case anyone is wondering, is no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cradle of Fish Posted January 8, 2009 #5 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Super intelligent chimps? The real question is, why haven't we made them already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antinomy Posted January 8, 2009 #6 Share Posted January 8, 2009 didn't something like this already happen? it was something like a human/chimp hybrid or something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Poacher Posted January 8, 2009 #7 Share Posted January 8, 2009 How would I feel? Sick. About the human race. Stop playing God. You are not Gods. You are children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearly Posted January 8, 2009 #8 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Hey dawkins, it's already been done. Yo mama! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leah G. Posted January 8, 2009 #9 Share Posted January 8, 2009 They would be making monsters, not the missing link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyWeather Posted January 8, 2009 #10 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Hm. I think it's be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorybebe Posted January 8, 2009 #11 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Don't mess with nature, we developed the way we did for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronWarrior Posted January 8, 2009 #12 Share Posted January 8, 2009 hasnt this story been posted before??? anyways hasnt someone tried that before??? and if they did do it what would be the point? and he said they could also create a chimera. so thats all hes doing is building monsters,just cause he can?? he might be an atheist, but i belive he sees himself as God. (srry i put so many questions ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender. Posted January 8, 2009 #13 Share Posted January 8, 2009 We are animals, therefore they are equal with us. This is no more wrong in nature than a donkey and a horse breeding and yet you are 'sickened' by it? Why do you hold the human race in such a high regard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorybebe Posted January 8, 2009 #14 Share Posted January 8, 2009 We are animals, therefore they are equal with us. This is no more wrong in nature than a donkey and a horse breeding and yet you are 'sickened' by it? Why do you hold the human race in such a high regard? That is natural, it happens out in the paddock, not in viles in the lab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearly Posted January 8, 2009 #15 Share Posted January 8, 2009 The question to ask, among others, is would YOU want to be the outcome of this experiment. If not, leave it alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt_Ripley Posted January 8, 2009 #16 Share Posted January 8, 2009 That is natural, it happens out in the paddock, not in viles in the lab. true , then we shouldn't allow for test tube babies either ? we cross breed animals of different all the time of similar genetics which is ' unnatural '. http://www.hemmy.net/2006/06/19/top-10-hybrid-animals/ it could also be said that using genetics to avoid things like cancer and other disease is also unnatural. should we think of humans as other than animal ? is it religion that makes us believe we are somehow special ? it seems some species of chimps now like to play in water and use spears to hunt. Given time they may be where we are now with no help from us at all. It isn't inconceivable. while I find the subject interesting I must admit to some sort of unnamed fear. why ? why is it disturbing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt_Ripley Posted January 8, 2009 #17 Share Posted January 8, 2009 The question to ask, among others, is would YOU want to be the outcome of this experiment. If not, leave it alone. and yet if you were you would be alive and not know another existence so would have no reference . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuriken Posted January 8, 2009 #18 Share Posted January 8, 2009 That is natural, it happens out in the paddock, not in viles in the lab. this just might be the stupidest thing I've heard in a wile... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen of Annoy Posted January 8, 2009 #19 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I was grunting in another thread against currently useless but expensive and potentially dangerous scientific projects. Here, I’m speechless. Almost. What would be the status of such chimera? Would he/she/it have half-human rights? Or they thought of producing only an embryo, for the sake of proving they can. That’s very mature of them. I don’t think humans are untouchable or god’s chosen or anything like that. I simply hate the idea of producing a being guaranteed to be even more lost and frustrated than average human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormcrow Posted January 8, 2009 #20 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I think it's grand we're considering experiment on humans, and imo, that does mean we're considering equality among the animal kingdoms. My thoughts on the experimentation itself though is it's rather... disgusting. Experimentation on any living beings is simply outrageous--I don't care what we would learn from it, torture for any reason is not acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www375 Posted January 8, 2009 #21 Share Posted January 8, 2009 If it can be done, it will be done, sooner or later................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropo Posted January 8, 2009 #22 Share Posted January 8, 2009 If it can be done, it will be done, sooner or later................... I hope sooner than later cause I want to know what will happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Sheik Posted January 8, 2009 #23 Share Posted January 8, 2009 You ask very good questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aron morales Posted January 8, 2009 #24 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Reason's against the "man-ape" 1. It would be an abomination. 2. If the chimera was capable of reasoning (much less living) how would it feel knowing it was produced by scientists who just wanted to show off that they could play God? 3. PETA and other animal right extremists would most likely retaliate with violence. But this is just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearly Posted January 8, 2009 #25 Share Posted January 8, 2009 (edited) and yet if you were you would be alive and not know another existence so would have no reference . Chimo: Lab Dude, where did I come from? Lab Dude: well chimo, us humans had nothing better to do then muck around and so we decided it would be kind of cool to create a chimp - human hybrid for no real good purpose other than to p*** religious people off, so here you are. Chimo: You mean I could have been full human, but you decided to make me part Chimp. F you Lab Dude!! How am I suppose to get a date with hot chicks? Lab Dude: Were working on that one. What type of feathers are you attracted too? Chimo: Not those chicks dumb ***! The hot hollywood ones. Edited January 8, 2009 by Bearly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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