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You ever heard of gangstalking?

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this lady and many others believe they are being stalked by a organized group of people and dont understand why.are they paranoid?you be the judge.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8rnBVduKKI

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We have a search feature here at UM. This is terribly old news.

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I have to stay that video actually makes a pretty convincing case, it does seem like those people were watching her.

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I have to stay that video actually makes a pretty convincing case, it does seem like those people were watching her.

Yes, well, when you see some lady in a car pointing a video camera at you, you tend to be curious enough about it to watch.

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Yes, well, when you see some lady in a car pointing a video camera at you, you tend to be curious enough about it to watch.

But you can't see the camera from where the guy was standing. At the end of the video she showed a still that was from the guy's vantage point, and there was a glare on the windshield that made it so the inside of the car couldn't be seen.

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Which guy? The first guy, who was bent over behind a fence working on something, stood up, looked around, and bent back down to keep doing whatever he was doing? That's the guy you claim looked like he was watching her?

Heck, It didn't even look like he noticed her. I thought you were talking about that one video with the couple at a cafe. Sheesh, how important does this lady think she is, to have so many people watching her?

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Yes, well, when you see some lady in a car pointing a video camera at you, you tend to be curious enough about it to watch.

That's what I thought, the whole thing's a bit bizzarre, who's watching who?

The guy in the corner looks like a cyclist, he's waiting around sitting on his bike...he does seem to keep looking towards the camera a lot, either he could see himself being watched, or he could have just been waiting for someone himself, and looking out for them to show up.

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That guy was on a bicycle. He did look kinda suspicious. He kept looking at her, not moving from his spot. That or he could've been waiting for someone and kept glancing down the street for them to show up. That white car was probably lost. I don't know about the other cyclists. They looked pretty normal, just out exercising.

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We have a search feature here at UM. This is terribly old news.

sorry didnt search but even though its old news it seems people are still discussing it.i think i wouldve thought those people were watching me if i were in her shoes.if the guy saw her pointing a camera at him than i understand why he was looking,hiding behind the bush and telling the ladies to look back at the nutty lady with the camcorder but it seems,according to the still pic that he couldnt see her with the camera.

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Looks like the guy is waiting for the dope man.

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Looks like the guy is waiting for the dope man.

http://www.prlog.org/10165490-are-you-bein...knowing-it.html

Bridging The Gap is a disturbing, yet poignant look into modern day democratic surveillance societies. The book examines how this structure is used to discredit, disenfranchise, and destroy innocent citizens.

Gang Stalking, The Buzzsaw, Cointelpro, what do these words mean and more importantly what do they have in common? They are names that have been used to describe the systemic apparatus that reaches out to destroy and discredit those declared enemy by the state.

This book will open your eyes to how the informant system has taken over these democratic countries, and how they are being used to further create a surveillance society where no one will be out of reach, should they too become persona non grata by the system.

Average citizens are being placed under covert investigations. Could you be a target? NO? Guess again, you might be surprised who is being investigated and why? If you value your privacy learn how the game is being played. Informants are all around us.

Uncover the truth about secret deals, undercover operations, the reason some are being disenfranchised from their jobs, communities, and their very livelihoods. Discover what others have discovered. Even if you do nothing wrong, you have plenty to worry about. Informants are in every nook and cranny in society. If you are an informant learn the truth about the system that controls us all. Bridging the gap exposes, the truth behind the lies.

Average citizens are being followed, monitored, watched, in their homes, at work, on the streets. Could this happen to you? NO? All it takes is the word of an informant. Find out what other innocent citizens have learnt. Freedom is not free, you too could become an enemy of the system. Once you do, your life will never been the same again.

Discover a state apparatus you never knew existed in a world that you currently inhibit. Discover how you too could be systemically ruined if you make the wrong enemy or step outside the invisible lines. Bridging The Gap, will help you or someone you love get ahead of the game, before the game gets you. This book will bring you up to date on what you need to know, to make the right choices for staying ahead of the game in today's society.

Informants are an integral part of society, if you don't watch your back, they will be watching it for you. The system has created a game, and we are all players, find out your best strategy for survival, in a modern day surveillance society.

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Even though Gang Stalking is old news, there is still a lot of disinformation about what it is, who is behind it, and so it's good when threads like this come up, it presents the oppertunity to discuss what is really ongoing.

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are you trying to sell a book? just explain what all this is about in your own words

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My father had a paranoid psychotic episode this year. He had bizarre delusional thoughts along these lines, as well as others. These people are just paranoid. There is no conspiracy, no gang stalking. Its all in their heads. Their strange behavior probably makes more people notice them though.

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Maybe the people inthe first video were saying "Hey! That crazy lady is out there in her car again! I bet she is spying on us!" LOL!

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That is hilarious. And beyond paranoid. What did she say? When she left the house she saw "cars, cyclists and pedestrians"? Well obviously they're all stalkers!!!!

Unbelievable.

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Which guy? The first guy, who was bent over behind a fence working on something, stood up, looked around, and bent back down to keep doing whatever he was doing?

Did you actually watch the video in question? the man you claimed to be working on something was in fact sitting on a bicycle pretending to be reading a news paper? im thinking you didnt watch the tape very intently or you would have seen that he was just sitting at the corner on a bicycle . he clearly did several times look at the woman narrating the video?

That's the guy you claim looked like he was watching her?

he was CLEARLY watching in her direction more than once and did in fact signal somebody as he pretended to be reading a paper...perhaps a closer look would help you to see this?

Heck, It didn't even look like he noticed her. I thought you were talking about that one video with the couple at a cafe. Sheesh, how important does this lady think she is, to have so many people watching her?

well now you state you thought they were talking about another video altogether? perhaps she isnt important at all but if you watch the tape and the behavior of those who were filmed perhaps youd have another opinion watch the tape full screen and pay close attention.......im NOT saying SHE WAS being watched but it certainly APPEARED that way from the video[/b]

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well now you state you thought they were talking about another video altogether? perhaps she isnt important at all but if you watch the tape and the behavior of those who were filmed perhaps youd have another opinion watch the tape full screen and pay close attention.......im NOT saying SHE WAS being watched but it certainly APPEARED that way from the video[/b]

Oh yes, she has certainly made more than one video. Paranoia doesn't stop at Vol. 1. All the videos are pretty much the same. Anyone who happens to glance at the person with the camera (she isn't the only person being gangstalked, apparently) are part of this secret group.

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im gangstalking you right nwo :P

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rofl... poor lady, she has nothing better to do than pick on a junkie. The best is the Boston shirt guy on the bicycle she says "actually rides up the wrong side of the street" lol OMG!

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Oh yes, she has certainly made more than one video. Paranoia doesn't stop at Vol. 1. All the videos are pretty much the same. Anyone who happens to glance at the person with the camera (she isn't the only person being gangstalked, apparently) are part of this secret group.

Im not saying that she is being "gang stalked i just commented on what i saw in the video... a guy sitting on a bicycle apperently at least watching her direction and commenting to two passersby may in fact be nothing but coincidence. the guy was pretending to read a paper....possibly could have been a lookout for drug dealers? who knows

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are you trying to sell a book? just explain what all this is about in your own words

It's not a paranoid fantasy anymore than Cointelpro was. Here is the information for Gang Stalking once again. It never stops getting fun sharing the information.

http://www.GangStalkingWorld.com

Gang Stalking is a covert investigation that is opened on an individual. The individual is then placed under overt and covert forms of surveillance. The person is followed around 24/7. Foot patrols and vehicle patrols are used to follow the Individual around, as part of the monitoring process. During these patrols a one handed sign language is used to assist the citizen informants with communicating to each other.

Gang Stalking is also systemic form of control, which seeks to control every aspect of a Targeted Individuals life. Gang Stalking has many similarities to workplace mobbing, but takes place outside in the community. It called Gang Stalking, because the target is followed around and placed under intrusive and directed surveillance by groups of organised "Covert Human Intelligence Sources" also known as Citizen Informants 24/7. Using anti-terror laws to spy on ordinary people.

Many Targeted Individuals are harassed and placed under surveillance in this way for months or even years before they realise that they are being targeted by an organised protocol of harassment.

What happens during this Gang Stalking surveillance is very similar to what happened to many innocent individuals in the former East Germany or Activists and Dissidents in Russia. Many innocent people in the former East Germany would be targeted for these harassment programs, and then their friends, family, and the community at large would be used to monitor, prosecute, and harass them. In Russia it was used by the state to declare activist, dissidents or anyone they thought to be an enemy of the state as mentally unfit and many were institutionalised using this form of systemic control.

The closest thing to Gang Stalking that democratic countries have seen before this is McCarthyism, Cointelpro, and RED SQUAD programs. Red Squad programs were used for monitoring, and harassment of various groups. They have been in place for over a hundred years, and they also employed Covert Human Intelligence Sources.

Civilian Spies, also known as "Covert Human Intelligence Sources" are recruited from every level and sector of society. Just like with Cointelpro investigations, everyone in the targets life is made a part of this ongoing never ending, systemic psychological harassment and manipulation of the target. These actions are specifically designed to control the target and to keep them in line. These actions are also designed to destroy the target over years, make them look crazy and leave them with no form of support.

For the targets of this harassment, Gang Stalking is experienced as a covert psychological, emotional and physical attack, that is capable of immobilizing and destroying a target over time. For the state it’s a way to keep the targets in line, control them, or destroy them.

Worldwide programs of control and conformity have been used with equal success and lethality. What we are seeing now is a global co-ordinated and organised effort of control and conformity. Many countries around the world are currently using a model of policing called: Community Oriented Policing. It's described as a systemic approach to policing. It focuses on instilling a sense of community within a geographically located neighborhood. Communities come together and discuss what values they would like to have in their community, community development, and it's also a time to discuss any problems that might be happening in a specific area. If a problem is identified an investigation might be opened. These local programs in many countries have been forming partnerships with other government run programs at, provincial, state and federal levels. Reports of Gang Stalking are not only coming in from democratic countries, but they are coming in from many other countries as well.

The modern day systemic form of control could only be funded at higher governmental levels, just like it has in other societies where these similar types of harassment programs have been implemented. It's all part of a system of control and conformity that has been in place for many years. A system of control with many local groups and appendages taking part.

What are the goals of Gang Stalking?

The goal is to isolate the target from all forms of support, so that the target can be set up in the future for arrest, institutionalisation, or forced suicide. Other goals of this harassment is to destroy the targets reputation and credibility. Make the target look crazy or unstable.

Other goals involve sensitizing the target to every day stimuli’s as a form of control, which is used to control targets when they get out of line. Once the target is sensitized, the Citizen Informants have an easier time identifying the Targeted Individual in public.

These programs are designed to make the targets of this harassment vulnerable, they want to make them destitute. The secondary goals seems to be to make the target homeless, jobless, give them a breakdown, and the primary goals seems to be to drive the target to forced suicide, just like what they did with some of the targets of Cointelpro. It's a useful way of eliminating perceived enemies of the state.

What are other Names for Gang Stalking?

There are many names for this form of systemic control and harassment. Under the Gang Stalking label you will also find such terms as Organised Stalking, Cause Stalking, Multi-Stalking, Community Mobbing, but it's all part of the same harassment protocol. What many people do not realise is that Gang Stalking is just one appendage of this systemic form of control. There are other forms of control used to repress, and keep individuals in line. Other forms or appendages include, but are not limited to: Mobbing, Cointelpro, The Buzzsaw, Covert War, Electronic Harassment, etc. These are the just some of the names being given to a very old game, that is once again being played by governments on their unsuspecting citizens.

How are targets chosen?

Targets can be chosen because of many reasons. They can be chosen for political views. They can be chosen for whistle-blowing. They can be chosen because they belong to a dissident movement. They can be chosen because they asserted there rights at work. They can be chosen because they made the wrong enemy. Were considered to be too outspoken, unwittingly investigated something that the state did not want investigated, signed a petition, wrote a letter. They were deemed as suspicious by a civilian spy/snitch and their names were handed over.

It’s becoming apparent that targets might be chosen for this systemic form of control, if they are not already in some way a part of this controlled system. Eg. Many Targeted Individuals seem to be unaware that large chunks of our society are now being used as Citizen Informants.

Who gets targeted?

Targeting can happen to anyone in society. In the past primary targets of programs such as Cointelpro have been minorities. Targeting however can happen to anyone. Individuals are often targeted for being outspoken, whistle blowers, dissidents, people who go up against wealthy corporations, woman’s groups, (single) women, anti-war proponents, individuals identified or targeted as problems at these community meetings, and other innocent individuals. The majority of the targets are often not aware that they are being targeted in this way. When a target moves, changes jobs, the harassment still continues. Every time the target moves, the same information, lies, and slander will be spread out into the new community and the systemic monitoring and harassment will continue. Traits of those targeted

Who takes part?

People from all walks of life are being recruited to be the eyes and ears of the state. People from all races, ages, genders. Every sector of society that you can think of is a part of this. Civilian Spies/Snitches include, but are not limited to: General labourers, the wealthy, bikers, drug dealers, drug users, street people, punks, hip hop culture, KKK, black activists, church groups, youth groups, Fire Fighters, police officers, lawyers, health care workers, store keepers, maids, janitors, cable installers, phone repair persons, mail carriers, locksmiths, electricians, etc. There really is no minimum or maximum age range. An article came out recently in the Uk, saying they were recruiting children as young as eight years old to be Covert Human Intelligence Sources.

Some of these citizens might be recruited via programs such as, Citizen Corp, Weed and Seed, Citizens On Phone Patrol, (COPP), City Watch, T.I.P.S. Many started with good intentions to help patrol and monitor their cities and neighbourhoods. Others are recruited via their families, others at school, others at work. Since every sector, class, race in society takes part, recruitment is multi-faceted.

Many do not understand or care that the end consequence of this harassment protocol is to destroy a person.

Why people participate in Gang Stalking?

There are many reasons that someone takes part in this activity.

1. Some do it for the sense of power that it gives them.

2. Others do this as a way to make friends and keep friends. It’s something social and fun for them to do. Many in society use the one handed sign language to communicate and it's very effective in breaking down race, gender, age, social barriers.

3. Others are forced or black mailed by the State or the police into taking part.

4. They are told that they are part of homeland or national security and being used to help keep and eye on dangerous or emotionally disturbed individuals. They see themselves as heroic spies for the state.

Civilian spies can come from a variety of different programs such as the Citizen Corp, Citizen On Phone Patrol COPP, Weed and Seed, T.I.P.S., City Watch or some other centralized government program used for patrolling and monitoring cities.

5. Others are just local thugs or Informants who are already being used for other activities, and their energies are just diverted over into these community spy programs. Eg. Some may be given the choice of Spying for the State or the police vs going to jail.

6. Others are told outright lies and slander about the target to get them to go along with ruining the targets life.

7. Many are however just average citizens who have been recruited by the state the same way citizens were recruited in the former East Germany and other countries. It's the way the society is.

What are some techniques used against targets?

A few of the most common techniques are listed below.

a) Classical conditioning.

Getting a Targeted Individual sensitized to an everyday stimuli. The targeted individual over a period of months, or even years is negatively sensitised to an everyday stimuli, which is then used to harass them. It’s used out in public to let them know they are constantly being harassed and monitored. Some examples of everyday stimulus that might be used include: sounds, colors, patterns, actions. Eg. Red, white, yellow, strips, pens clicking, key jangling, loud coughing, loud whistling, loud smacking of clapping of hands together, cell phones, laptops, etc.

B) 24/7 Surveillance This will involve following the target everywhere they go. Learning about the target. Where they shop, work, play, who their friends and family are. Getting close to the target, moving into the community or apartment where they live, across the street. Monitoring the targets phone, house, and computer activity. Surveillance Policy.

c) Isolation of said target.

This is done via slander campaigns, and lies. Eg. People in the targets community are told that the target is a thief, into drugs, a prostitute, pedophile, crazy, in trouble for something, needs to be watched. Files will even be produced on the target, shown to neighbours, family, store keepers.

d) Noise and mimicking campaigns.

Disrupting the targets life, sleep with loud power tools, construction, stereos, doors slamming, etc. Talking in public about private things in the targets life. Mimicking actions of the target. Basically letting the target know that they are in the targets life. Daily interferences, nothing that would be too overt to the untrained eye, but psychologically degrading and damaging to the target over time.

e) Everyday life breaks and street theatre.

Flat tires, sleep deprivation, drugging food, putting dirt on targets property. Mass strangers doing things in public to annoy targets. These strangers might get text messaged to be at a specific time and place, and perform a specific action.

It might seem harmless to these Citizen Informants, but it could be causing great psychological trauma for the target. Eg. Blocking targets path, getting ahead of them in line, cutting or boxing them in on the road, saying or doing things to elicit a response from targets. Etc. It's like the death of a thousand paper cuts. One or two minor incidents will not cause any harm to the target, but over time the target is slowly worn down.

Where does the support or funding for this come from?

Though Gang Stalking itself is immoral and unethical in nature, programs such as this in democratic countries, and none democratic countries have always been funded by the Government. They are the only ones with enough money, coordination, and power to keep such a system in place. These Co-ordinated efforts then join hands with others for this systemic form of control and harassment.

"Ruling the community with an iron fist. “Savvy law enforcement types realized that under the community policing rubric, cops, community groups, local companies, private foundations, citizen informants and federal agencies could form alliances without causing public outcry.” Covert Action Quarterly, summer 1997.”

Ruling the community

What can you do to help?

1. If you know someone who is being targeted in this way please don’t go along with it. Don’t assume that the person is guilty or a bad person. Many innocent people are currently being targeted, and people are being told lies. This form of harassment is systemic and it's about state control and conformity. The express goal of this harassment is to destroy the individual over time.

2. If you are aware of someone being harassed in this way, subtly direct them to websites that deal with Gang Stalking, or sites for Targeted Individuals. Knowledge is power.

3. You can subtly offer your support to someone who is being unfairly treated, in very small little ways.

4. You can bring up the subject of Gang Stalking or Targeted Individuals.

6. You can subtly suggest that your local newspapers or community papers print articles about Targeted Individuals or even an write an objective piece about Gang Stalking.

How do participants communicate?

Communicate happens in a number of ways. When on the street or in cars patrolling, they use baseball or Stasi like signals. Citizen Informants also seem to get verbal ques via cellphone and earphones.

These include things like tapping the side of the nose, corner of the eye, brushing back the hair 3 times, the infamous double blink, etc.

Here is a list of signals that the former East German Secret Police the Stasi used. http://www.nthposition.com/stasiland.php

SIGNALS FOR OBSERVATION

1. Watch out! Subject is coming - touch nose with hand or handkerchief

2. Subject is moving on, going further, or overtaking - stroke hair with hand, or raise hat briefly

3. Subject standing still - lay one hand against back, or on stomach

4. Observing Agent wishes to terminate observation because cover threatened - bend and retie shoelaces

5. Subject returning - both hands against back, or on stomach

6. Observing Agent wishes to speak with Team Leader or other Observing Agents - take out briefcase or equivalent and examine contents.

Books:

1. Ward Churchill, Jim Vander Wall “Cointelpro Papers”

2. Protectors of Privilege: Red Squads and Police Repression in Urban America

3. Anna Funder “Stasiland”

4. Gloria Naylor. “1996

5. Victor Santoro “GASLIGHTING How To Drive Your Enemies Crazy “

6. Anthony Brina “Suburban Spies”

7. Stephen Knight “The Brotherhood”

8. Alex Constantine “The Covert War Against Rock”

9. Jim Redden “Snitch Culture”

10. Frank Donner “The Age of surveillance”

11. Kristina Borjesson "Into the Buzzsaw"

12. Niki F. Raapana "2020"

13. Noa Davenport "Mobbing: Emotional Abuse in the American WorkPlace"

14. Dr. Andrew M. Lobaczewski. Political Ponerology: The science on the Nature of Evil.

15. Community Oriented Policing. A Systemic approach.

Movies:

1. The lives of others. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0405094/ (A movie about covert investigations in the former East Germany)

2. The Matrix. (Sci-fi Movie.) Neo a target wakes up and realises not only is he being watched without knowing why, but that the world is a lie, that has been created to pull the truth over people’s eyes.

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Here is information from Mark M. Rich. His site is http://www.TheHiddenEvil.com

Welcome. This website is devoted to explaining a global program of torture, murder & persecution which I call the Hidden Evil. It includes a vast network of plain-clothed citizen informants, which is used for public stalking, & the use of Directed Energy Weapons on targeted individuals. All core factions of the community are involved, & everyone, from seniors to children, participates in Gang Stalking. Governments have used these groups in some form since the Roman Empire. The Hidden Evil is an example of this pattern repeating itself.

The citizens' network patrols the streets of your neighborhoods. The evidence suggests that this network is not just part of a sub-culture within society, but that it literally permeates all aspects of it, & is therefore, part of the mainstream. As I'll demonstrate, this has happened before. The network is the creation of supra-governmental Think Tanks, which are made up of people of tremendous wealth. These Think Tanks manipulate your government like a puppet. So, in essence, these wealthy individuals control your streets.

The public front portion of the program currently appears to emanate from a Department of Homeland Security initiative, known as, Citizen Corps. It is partnered with a National Neighborhood Watch program called, USAonWatch, which conducts citizen patrols. It is directed by FEMA, the FBI, & the National Sheriffs' Association. The public front is supported by individuals & groups of informants, that have no official ties to any state organization, & is also run by the FBI & other federal agencies. These federal agencies work directly with local governments to coordinate the activities of this colossal network. Other countries apparently have similar ones.

The citizen patrols (Gang Stalking) are done under the guise of keeping an eye on internal threats to state security & cleaning up neighborhoods. As I'll demonstrate, this is exactly what the informant networks in East Germany & Russia were told when they were recruited into these state-sponsored programs. These are essentially global Psychological Warfare operations, done with the support of the civilian population. On the neighborhood level, despite claims of patriotism, the main reasons for their participation are empowerment & adventure.

Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP) & other behavior modification tools are used as weapons during public harassment. These attacks are combined with military-grade, silent, through-the-wall Directed Energy Weapons (DEW), & advanced electronic surveillance equipment. Many people are attacked night & day with these weapons.

I have found that this social pathogen is a symptom of a heavily corrupted society under psychopathic rule. The program, in its basic form, is part of a re-occurring historical theme, which includes psychopaths gaining control of governments, & using a percentage of the population to destroy their enemies. This is done to pave the way for an overt dictatorship, & is always done under the banner of righteousness. In its current form, it is part of a political movement known as the New World Order. On this site, I'll describe what Think Tanks are behind it. From top to bottom, the Hidden Evil is about power & control.

The mainstream news, congress, parliament, & other politicians will openly deny that this exists. Or they will minimize its significance. Organizations under the control of the financial elite will also deny it, & may be used to discredit anyone who exposes it. The media will also be used in this manner. In the future, when the authorized historians write the official history books, this part of it will be left out or whitewashed.

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The short and dirty of it is that covert investigations are being opened on average people, and they are being investigated for months years on end, using the informant force that is described above. It's just the same as if you were a stalking victim, you see someone hiding behind a tree and because you have seen it before you know it's your stalker, targets see these people consistantly and there are trends and patterns, plus they repeate private conversations, that we have had in our homes, little things like that.

The book or even Marks book explains this, but you can get all this information from the websites. I will also leave you with a couple of videos.

Even with all this information it's amazing that people still choose to ignore the reality of this. The sad part is that they did the same thing to targets of workplace mobbing, oh they are just paranoid, all in their heads, now it's all true, and it happens at every sector in society.

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The only stalking is being done by the paranoid people with their cameras.

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