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You're right, this is very bizarre. Is it my computer or is there just a box here with an x in the corner?

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What is with the robotic voice?

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this mad me very uneasy:unsure2:

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What is with the robotic voice?

Someone doesn't want to be identified is my guess, but why would he link to his site then? interesting...

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I may be mistaken because of the scrambled voice but what does 444 have to do with anything?

444 the number of the guy that lives two blocks from the beast!

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This is BS, and I can prove it easely, Mohammad is the name in english, but it written differently in other languages, and just because of that tha maths fail, as an example we can have Mohammad in portuguese Maome, see the diference? The sames goes with the other names, try different languages and you get differents numbers!!!!

Like Mr T used to say: I petty the fool!! Or something like that!

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This is BS, and I can prove it easely, Mohammad is the name in english, but it written differently in other languages, and just because of that tha maths fail, as an example we can have Mohammad in portuguese Maome, see the diference? The sames goes with the other names, try different languages and you get differents numbers!!!!

Like Mr T used to say: I petty the fool!! Or something like that!

You know you must keep one thing in mind concerning end time Bible prophecy, in 2nd Thess. Chapter to God says he sends the son of perdition to decieve the non-believing world. The son of perdition is another term for the Antichrist. Anyway it does not matter to God what you say to today concerning any rejection of this information, it is what you decide when the obvious happens in the future. You will know and each shall make a choice. Here is some info below fot those intrested.

Jesus=444

Cross=444

Yshua=444

English=444

Yshua or Yeshu?

by Rich Robinson

Ask any Israeli how to say Jesus in Hebrew, and youll invariably hear the response: Yeshu (pronounced Yay shoo). Yet according to scholars, His Hebrew name (depending on how you spell it) is Yeshua or Yshua (pronounced Yeh shoo wah). Why then, dont Israeli Jews call Him by His correct name? Shouldnt they be the first to know (and use) His Hebrew name? The answers to those questions take us back to a time prior to 1750 A.D.

Ever since the Enlightenment, Jesus has been viewed in an increasingly positive light by most Jews—not as the Messiah, it is true, but as a good teacher, a rabbi, our brother, perhaps a political martyr.1 But long ago, Jesus was believed by most Jewish people to be a deceiver who led Israel astray, and some even regarded Him as a sorcerer. Consequently, centuries ago he was called by the name Yeshu, a play on His correct name that is actually an acronym standing for Yimmach Shemo Ve-zikro—May his name and memory be blotted out. He is still viewed that way by some, especially Ultra-Orthodox Jews; those, however, are the minority.

The name Yeshu has filtered down through history as the name of Jesus in Israel. Most Israelis (who are secular) have no idea that it originated as an acronym of contempt. How could they not know? Just think of our days of the week: Thursday was originally Thors Day, but what it originally meant has nothing to do with its current meaning. Ask an American what Thursday means, and the answer will probably be, the day of the week that comes after Wednesday. Similarly, ask an Israeli who Yeshu is, and the answer will probably be, a man who lived in the first century, the Christians Messiah.

Our staff in Israel have been working to make Jesus true Hebrew name a talking point, and this will continue throughout the next several years of Behold Your God Israel. Imagine the possibilities! We want to lift up the true name of Yshua, which was given to indicate that He would save His people from their sins (Matthew 1:21).

And outside of Israel, few Jews know him as either Yshua or as Yeshu. Perhaps you can tell a Jewish friend that you have learned the name of Jesus in Hebrew, and it is Yshua; and that his mothers name was originally not Mary but, in Hebrew, Miriam (a topic for another article). Then you can ask why, since Jesus is Jewish, most Jewish people dont believe in Him—and see if God opens a conversation.

For an in-depth look at the name of Jesus, see the article An Introduction to the Names Yehoshua/Joshua, Yeshua, Jesus and Yeshu by Kai Kjær-Hansen at

http://www.jewsforjesus.org/answers/jesus/names

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There are many variations of the spelling. However, the most agreed upon spellings are

"Muhammad"

These are the spellings which are adopted by the Oxford Dictionary which is the world authority on English. Additionally, these are the spellings that are adopted on the WikiPedia, WikiAnswers, Encyclopedia Britannica, and many other official places as well.

http://www.propheticseasons.wordpress.com

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Edited by MysteryMath

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Follow up ........

Most of you that have viewed this post from day one up until today will make the right choice when the time comes regardless of how you feel today. Mans laws will not forgive most crimes or sins, but Jesus will including and especially unbelief. The reason for the Antichrist in the first place is to help those on the fence make a choice.

You see there are only a couple of sins Jesus will not forgive at the end, taking any buying and selling mark, or the worship of any man as the Christ before Jesus' coming. As far as forgiveness is concerned this does not mean God does not punish a person for terrible deeds or crimes he just does not make it an eternal judgement. No worries each here up to this date will have a sign from the real Jesus by the supernatural power of the Holy Spirit. Some sooner some later, so phone home and talk to the air, the Holy Spirit of God will be listening. For those persons here that Jesus touches right away DO NOT GO TO A CHRISTIAN CHURCH until after the Holy Spirit teaches you and you have read the new testament for yourself. Until then think of me as you will but I tell you the truth most who have visited here since day one of this post until now will have an "E" ticket ride home to heaven by the blood of Jesus regardless if you believe today or not. Take care and have fun, Jesus died so you could be free from dead religion as much as you could be free from Lucifer.

Grace defined: Unearned, Unmerited favor with God, Mercy, forgiveness

Amazing Grace that saved dirt bags like all of us.

:)

Edited by MysteryMath

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Odd, I recall seeing a thread just like this in which I had already posted.

I can't really understand what that computerized voice is saying, but exactly how did you come up with those numbers? Those sums are not based on Hebrew or Greek gematria.

Hebrew (can't use Hebrew font):

Yeshu-YSV-yod,shin,vau- 10+300+6= 316

Yeshua(He delivers)-YSVA-yod,shin,vau,ayin- 10+300+6+70=386

Yehoshua("Yah" is judge)-YHVSA-yod,he,vau,shin,ayin- 10+5+6+300+70= 391

Greek:

Ἰησοῦς-Iesous-10+8+200+70+400+200= 888 (odd that your number would be half)

Edited by Cybele

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Meanings of Hebrew words whose spelling comes out to 444:

--- branches, boughs

--- to be active, quick; pr.n. "Activity", Damascus; damask. (Damascus: "a city so fruitful and fair as to be often called Paradise").

--- bandage.

--- a holy thing; a holy place, sanctuary; the temple; an asylum.

http://www.billheidrick.com/works/hgm3/hg0440.htm

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Meanings of Hebrew words whose spelling comes out to 444:

--- branches, boughs

--- to be active, quick; pr.n. "Activity", Damascus; damask. (Damascus: "a city so fruitful and fair as to be often called Paradise").

--- bandage.

--- a holy thing; a holy place, sanctuary; the temple; an asylum.

http://www.billheidrick.com/works/hgm3/hg0440.htm

Hi Cybel,

This is rather long but worth the read. To see the same information with the active links use the link at the bottom or the link on the url shown at the end of the video.

By the alphabet key in the video each of the words and compound words have their respective values.

Words that calculate to 888

Divine Presence = 888

Omnipresent = 888

Messiah Jesus = 888

Coming Truth = 888

A Holy Truth = 888

Law of Liberty = 888

King of the Sabbath = 888

The King Jesus = 888

Finished Cross = 888

The Lion of Judah = 888

Scriptures = 888

The Trinity = 888

The Lord’s Time = 888

The House of God = 888

The Doings of God = 888

Morning Star = 888

Biblical Prophet = 888

Words that calculate to 444

Jesus=444

Yshua=444

Messiah=444

Cross=444

Gospel=444

Jewish=444

Menorah=444

Joshua=444

Obedient=444

Increase=444

Forgave=444

English=444

Gematria=444

Church age=444

Words that calculate to 906

Jesus is Lord = 906

Jesus Christ = 906

Jesus Power = 906

Son of the Lord = 906

Lord's Prayer = 906

Holy Spirit = 906

Lord of Hosts = 906

Through Love = 906

Jesus Glory = 906

Jesus Is Alive = 906

Redeemer From God = 906

Jesus Sacrificed = 906

Shed Blood For Man = 906

Prophetic King = 906

Unconditional = 906

Healing Promise = 906

Love is the Law = 906

Typical Objections and questions concerning the English numeric alphabet values

Objection 1

The 666 calculation prophecy of Revelation 13:16-18 must be calculated by Koine Greek or the Hebrew gematria alphabet values because those were the languages the Bible was written in.

My Response

Show me the scripture that states the 666 calculation prophecy of Revelation 13:18 must be calculated by the Koine Greek or Hebrew alphabet values. Many Christian Bible prophecy teachers assume because of the many second generation copies of the Gospel in the "Received Text" written and preserved in the Koine Greek that the Koine Greek gematria alphabet values must be used for the calculation prophecy of Revelation 13. This is an assumption on their part and it is also error, there is no proof in scripture that it must be calculated in the Greek or Hebrew. Also if the Koine Greek is the language to calculate with then how do we deal with the obsolete letters of Digamma, Qoppa, San, Sampi? Since the Gospel was preserved in the Koine Greek rather than Jesus' native tongue this fact does not automatically guarantee the numeric values of the Greek were in fact inspired by God especially since the Koine Greek alphabet values were established by men before Jesus' birth or his ministry on earth. (See History of Koine Greek below) The truth might be that these men of history just picked these Greek alphabet numbers out of a hat. The Hebrew language alphabet values also presents us with enormous problems due to multiple systems and because of the fact it does not stay within the rules of "psephizo" for calculate. In the Hebrew you have four ways to calculate:

1) Absolute value, (in Hebrew: mispar hechrachi) also known as Normative value:

2) Ordinal value (in Hebrew: mispar siduri):

3)Reduced value (in Hebrew: mispar katan, modulus 9 in mathematical terminology):

4) Integral Reduced Value (in Hebrew, mispar katan mispari): (Hebr-Ref-1)| (Hebr-Ref-2| (Hebr-Ref-3|

A little history about the Koine Greek of the New Testament.

Koine Greek: The fusion of various ancient Greek dialects with Attic, the dialect of Athens, resulted in the creation of the first common Greek dialect, which became a lingua franca across Eastern Mediterranean and Near East. Koine Greek can be initially traced within the armies and conquered territories of Alexander the Great, but after the Hellenistic colonization of the known world, it was spoken from Egypt to the fringes of India. After the Roman conquest of Greece, an unofficial diglossy of Greek and Latin was established in the city of Rome and Koine Greek became a first or second language in the Roman Empire. The origin of Christianity can also be traced through Koine Greek, as the Apostles used it to preach in Greece and the Greek-speaking world. It is also known as the Alexandrian dialect, Post-Classical Greek or even New Testament Greek, as it was the original language the New Testament was written in. See the references below for more information. (Grk-Ref-1)| (Grk-Ref-2) | (Grk-Ref-3) | (Grk-Ref-4) |

Jesus did not did teach or preach anything in the Koine Greek. It is an interesting fact that there is not even one complete copy of the Gospel in Jesus' native tongue. The reason for this is obvious, God Almighty preserved his Gospel in the Koine Greek because the Koine Greek during that time was the best way to reach the masses.

There is no place in scripture that specifically states that the 666 calculation prophecy of Revelation 13:18 must be calculated in the Koine Greek, once again this is only an assumption made by many Bible prophecy teachers. You must seriously take into account and consider the possibility that the Koine Greek and Hebrew alphabet values may have been randomly assigned by men without God's influence. It would be extra Biblical to state they are divinely inspired by God without proof from scripture stating so. You could say you believe it to be true by faith, but you cannot prove it from scripture. If the Koine Greek alphabet values are not inspired by God then one can only conclude that men randomly selected the numeric values.

For the record : I do believe that the Koine Greek and Hebrew Gematria values are divinely inspired and controlled by God Almighty but I cannot prove it from scripture, yet I have faith it is true. I can also say the same thing about the English except in the English language's case I can find much more proof of design at a mathematical level that fits the prophetic requirements of the word Psephizo as used in Revelation 13:16-18.

Wisdom and Understanding is required to calculate 666

Since the Koine Greek and Hebrew alphabet values were established long before Jesus' or Apostle John's birth then it becomes paramount we understand one of the requirements of Revelation 13:16-18 which is that it requires special wisdom and understanding to calculate for 666.

Since the Hebrew and the Koine Greek gematria alphabet values were already well established long before the Book of Revelation was written it becomes quite obvious that no wisdom or extra understanding is required to calculate for 666 using them. In other words the Greek and Hebrew were already determined beforehand.

Question: You also need to ask yourself what is the wisdom and understanding that is required to calculate for 666 using the Greek and Hebrew alphabets values. The answer: There is none other than basic mathematics, it has already been done nothing extra is required even an atheist or a 5th grader could calculate 666 using the Koine Greek or Hebrew values. Since this is the case then Apostle John was obviously talking about something else altogether. The wisdom and understanding requirement of scripture rules out the possibility of calculating by the Koine Greek and Hebrew because these gematria's alphabet values predate the book of Revelation. They then are effectively ruled out by the scriptures themselves. Also the word used for calculate in the Koine Greek of Revelation 13:18 is "psephizo" (5585) which means to count as pebbles mathematically as one would do when using an abacus. This is 1's 10's 100's 1000's in progressive order mathematically. The Greek and Hebrew do not stay in pure mathematic progressive forms. They move in blocks of tens or hundreds and ignore normal mathematical progressive rules. So the standards set by psephizo also rule out Greek or Hebrew gematria's as a way to calculate for 666.

However the English alphabet values shown on this website were isolated and determined using mathematical searches and progressive mathematical calculations beginning at A=1 B=2 C=3 D=4 E=5 up to A=665 B=666. The mathematical searches were used to look for designs and patterns without violating the laws of mathematics. In the English one clear pattern was found. By doing the calculation’s this way the Biblical requirements of "psephizo" were met. See the Uncover.Exe link in the side menu for more information.) Once again the Koine Greek usage of "psephizo" in this particular part of scripture is making it clear that the calculation of Revelation 13:18 would be in another language altogether or at least not in the current Greek or Hebrew gematria alphabet values. This is a fact that can be clearly seen if you understand the meaning of "psephizo" correctly and remove your personal basis and just receive the obvious meaning of the text in its proper context.

Some Christians argue that this prophecy should be simple enough for a child to determine, however this reasoning contradicts the book of Revelation where it states that it requires wisdom and understanding to calculate. This prophecy is not for the masses to understand at deeper level but rather men and women called of God who are predestined to understand it deeply who can then later relay it to the masses in simple terms in their respective languages. Then when necessary answer the skeptics at a deeper level as the Holy Spirit guides. That is what the UNCOVER.EXE program is about. Lastly when dealing with this prophecy you would be wise to humbly and I mean very humbly seek God Almighty and his Holy Spirit in Jesus' name before presuming anything about this prophecy.

English= 444 Gematria=444 Simple=444

It will be fulfilled in English and this is the reason there are so many English Speaking countries in the world today. See the links see at the bottom as a reference, you will find English is the only language that could reach the masses in this generation. Very few countries (2) speak ancient or Modern Greek as a prominent language and Hebrew are even rarer outside of Israel. Imagine all the countries of the world learning Hebrew or the Koine Greek. English is God’s choice for this prophecy

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Objection 2

Christians do not need the 666 prophecy to recognize Antichrist so why even bother?

My Response:

Some Christians may recognize Antichrist if they have studied and prayed on this subject but lukewarm non-serious Christians will almost surely be deceived.

The prophecies of Revelation 13 concerning the Antichrist and the false prophet are very clear. The warnings from Jesus Christ through John the beloved concerning the number 666 and the Antichrist’s future buying and selling mark are also quite clear. They are simple and to the point and need no scholarly interpretation. It says DO NOT not take the buying and selling mark of Antichrist or else! Christians who have seriously studied the Bible for themselves do not need to understand or even determine the 666 calculation prophecy of Revelation 13 to recognize the future Antichrist. So why does Jesus want us to calculate for 666 at all? I mean think about it, Christians who know the Bible will know who the Antichrist is without the 666 calculation, so why do it? The reason is simple; Jesus Christ called those with wisdom and understanding to do it.

For a Christian to say otherwise such as "It is not necessary to calculate for 666" or says "some things just cannot be known" is dangerous for the Christian who spoke it. The reason, in the first case it is disobedience to Jesus’ command to do it, plus it is taking away from the book of Revelation to say it is not necessary to calculate for 666. On the second count to say it cannot be known implies that God Almighty does not have the ability to give a person wisdom if they humbly ask for it. To say it cannot be known also makes God a liar who promised to give wisdom and understanding to any who asked. In either case I would not want to be the Christian who made these mistakes.

The scripture says the Antichrist will be an excellent peace maker. The scripture says the Antichrist will eventually have control of all nations for 42 months. The scriptures says the Antichrist will someday require all to take a buying and selling mark of allegiance to him and then someday after his mortal head wound and resurrection he will demand worship as God. The scriptures declare that God Almighty allows this Antichrist to rise because most of the population of the world has rejected the true Gospel of Jesus Christ. Someday the Antichrist will walk into a rebuilt Jewish temple and desolate it by causing the continual burnt offering to cease and by claiming to be God.

Since it is clear that any sincere well studied Christian will know the future Antichrist when he rises without the 666 prophecy then why does God give the command to calculate for 666? The reason is because God wishes to reveal the design in English that points both to evil and to good as well as truth and deception, then God leaves it as a choice for the individual to make.

Why would God want to do that? To maintain free will and faith. You see God Almighty at the end of days wants everyone to realize that God has designed in the English language a Revelation of choice. Remember at the end during the rise of Antichrist the scriptures declare a person will be required to choose who they will worship; it will be the worship of one or the other. Some will choose Jesus Christ and others will choose the false Christ, also called the Antichrist.

CLICK THIS LINK TO SEE THE 666 FINDINGS

http://sites.google.com/site/pointprophetic/rapture-of-the-church-pre-mid-or-post-tribulation/endtime666calculator

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Edited by MysteryMath

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Okay...that was...interesting....

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Okay...that was...interesting....

Epictetus:

It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows.

Frank Herbert:

The beginning of knowledge is the discovery of something we do not understand.

Henri Bergson:

The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.

John Naisbitt:

We are drowning in information but starved for knowledge.

Vernon Cooper:

These days people seek knowledge, not wisdom. Knowledge is of the past, wisdom is of the future.

Mark Twain:

All schools, all colleges, have two great functions: to confer, and to conceal, valuable knowledge. The theological knowledge which they conceal cannot justly be regarded as less valuable than that which they reveal. That is, when a man is buying a basket of strawberries it can profit him to know that the bottom half of it is rotten.

Mark Twain:

If you don't read the newspaper, you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper, you are misinformed.

Richard Cecil:

The first step towards knowledge is to know that we are ignorant

Malcolm Forbes:

The dumbest people I know are those who know it all.

William Shakespeare:

We know what we are, but know not what we may be.

http://www.propheticseasons.wordpress.com :tu::gun:

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Numerology is pseudoscience like astrology

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Didn't you say pretty much the same thing here? And I still have no idea, except it's probably something to do with 666, and perhaps 2012.

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I thought they discovered a fragment from the oldest surviving copy of the New Testament, dating to the Third century, which states that 616 is the number of the beast, not 666?

If true then all these mathematics are somewhat pointless, seeing that they depend on 666 being the number of the beast :hmm: .

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I thought they discovered a fragment from the oldest surviving copy of the New Testament, dating to the Third century, which states that 616 is the number of the beast, not 666?

If true then all these mathematics are somewhat pointless, seeing that they depend on 666 being the number of the beast :hmm: .

I remember watching Qi on bb2 with stephen fry and this came up, he said "616 was in fact the number of the beast"

it's stephen fry he's quite:geek: so i believe him.

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Lucifer Muhammad Jesus 444 Numerology Gematria Numbers

What are the odds weird don't you think

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVCOT2y_ov0

Very interesting video. It is an amazing coincidence that the three names written in the 'English' language turn out with the same numerical sum based upon a 6+6+6... fold numerical value(s) for each letter.

Of course 444 is a trinity number of the family of three. 4+4+4=12 1+2=3

And of course the video implys that there are three choices.

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Isn't this about the third time you've started this exact same topic?

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Isn't this about the third time you've started this exact same topic?

It is the first time I have seen it so who cares?

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Very interesting video. It is an amazing coincidence that the three names written in the 'English' language turn out with the same numerical sum based upon a 6+6+6... fold numerical value(s) for each letter.

You can't just make up a new gematria system to suit your conspiracy theories; it doesn't prove anything.

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You can't just make up a new gematria system to suit your conspiracy theories; it doesn't prove anything.

So says you.

I think I will decide for myself what has meaning without consulting you as to if it is ok.

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It is the first time I have seen it so who cares?

Because it's against the forum rule:

Multi-posting: Do not start multiple identical threads in multiple forum sections or post multiple identical replies in multiple threads. Posting something once in one place is sufficient.

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