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Industrial Revolution: The Tipping point?

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Industrial Revolution: The Tipping point?

We live in two very different worlds; a world of technical and technological order and clarity, and a world of personal and social disorder and confusion. We are increasingly able to solve problems in one domain and increasingly endangered by our inability to solve problems in the other.

Normal science is successful primarily because it is a domain of knowledge controlled by paradigms. The paradigm defines the standards, principles and methods of the discipline. It is not apparent to the laity but science moves forward in small incremental steps. Science seldom seeks and almost never produces major novelties.

Science solves puzzles. The logic of the paradigm insulates the professional group from problems that are unsolvable by that paradigm. One reason that science progresses so rapidly and with such assurance is because the logic of that paradigm allows the practitioners to work on problems that only their lack of ingenuity will keep them from solving.

Science uses instrumental rationality to solve puzzles. Instrumental rationality is a systematic process for reflecting upon the best action to take to reach an established end. The obvious question becomes ‘what mode of rationality is available for determining ends?’ Instrumental rationality appears to be of little use in determining such matters as “good” and “right”.

There is a striking difference between the logic of technical problems and that of dialectical problems. The principles, methods and standards for dealing with technical problems and problems of “real life” are as different as night and day. Real life problems cannot be solved only using deductive and inductive reasoning.

Dialectical reasoning methods require the ability to slip quickly between contradictory lines of reasoning. One needs skill to develop a synthesis of one point of view with another. Where technical matters are generally confined to only one well understood frame of reference real life problems become multi-dimensional totalities.

When we think dialectically we are guided by principles not by procedures. Real life problems span multiple categories and academic disciplines. We need point-counter-point argumentation; we need emancipatory reasoning to resolve dialectical problems. We need critical thinking skills and attitudes to resolve real life problems.

How can we become intellectually sophisticated enough to survive our own technological success?

Can our civilization survive much longer if our citizens fail to become more intellectually sophisticated? Presently it is apparent to me that few citizens have any idea of the problems that we face. If the citizens do not comprehend what is going on they certainly will be unwilling to make the sacrifices required.

I suspect that we have already past the tipping point. The tipping point is that situation in history, if past, cannot be recovered. There is a tipping point in the human body such that if reached the immune system in the body cannot recover and eventually heal the body.

I suspect that the human species tipping point might have been the Industrial Revolution.

They “tranquilize themselves with the trivial”.—Kierkegaard

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Industrial Revolution: The Tipping point?

We live in two very different worlds; a world of technical and technological order and clarity, and a world of personal and social disorder and confusion. We are increasingly able to solve problems in one domain and increasingly endangered by our inability to solve problems in the other.

Normal science is successful primarily because it is a domain of knowledge controlled by paradigms. The paradigm defines the standards, principles and methods of the discipline. It is not apparent to the laity but science moves forward in small incremental steps. Science seldom seeks and almost never produces major novelties.

Science solves puzzles. The logic of the paradigm insulates the professional group from problems that are unsolvable by that paradigm. One reason that science progresses so rapidly and with such assurance is because the logic of that paradigm allows the practitioners to work on problems that only their lack of ingenuity will keep them from solving.

Science uses instrumental rationality to solve puzzles. Instrumental rationality is a systematic process for reflecting upon the best action to take to reach an established end. The obvious question becomes ‘what mode of rationality is available for determining ends?’ Instrumental rationality appears to be of little use in determining such matters as “good” and “right”.

There is a striking difference between the logic of technical problems and that of dialectical problems. The principles, methods and standards for dealing with technical problems and problems of “real life” are as different as night and day. Real life problems cannot be solved only using deductive and inductive reasoning.

Dialectical reasoning methods require the ability to slip quickly between contradictory lines of reasoning. One needs skill to develop a synthesis of one point of view with another. Where technical matters are generally confined to only one well understood frame of reference real life problems become multi-dimensional totalities.

When we think dialectically we are guided by principles not by procedures. Real life problems span multiple categories and academic disciplines. We need point-counter-point argumentation; we need emancipatory reasoning to resolve dialectical problems. We need critical thinking skills and attitudes to resolve real life problems.

How can we become intellectually sophisticated enough to survive our own technological success?

Can our civilization survive much longer if our citizens fail to become more intellectually sophisticated? Presently it is apparent to me that few citizens have any idea of the problems that we face. If the citizens do not comprehend what is going on they certainly will be unwilling to make the sacrifices required.

I suspect that we have already past the tipping point. The tipping point is that situation in history, if past, cannot be recovered. There is a tipping point in the human body such that if reached the immune system in the body cannot recover and eventually heal the body.

I suspect that the human species tipping point might have been the Industrial Revolution.

They “tranquilize themselves with the trivial”.—Kierkegaard

The decline in society is because of the Liberal ideology going around the Western World.

We know it doesnt work, so does everybody else yet some people think their personal freedoms come before society as a whole and as such we decend further into barbarianism.

It will only stop when we are all mixed race, gay, atheist, to stupid to pass our GCSES, have 10 kids all by differant women and spend our days off our heads on crack cocaine.

If we dont wnat it we better pull our fingers out pretty fast.

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With the industrial revolution came a massive increase in population. While technology can potentate a threat to the species? I am more concerned as to the differences between what we say and what we do. Darfur, slavery laws not enforced. With no specific law enforcement assigned to such tasks. In countries have laws against that. The matter of the Turkish Armenians; are excellent contemporary examples.

There were mass graves found in Iraq. But that reasoning for engaging Iraq was ignored???

Unless one was a royal or otherwise advantaged? Life expectancy prior to the Industrial Revolution

was pretty much in the 50's so there are advantage's.

But it seems clear to me that there are blinders in place.

Any thoughts?

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It will only stop when we are all mixed race, gay, atheist, to stupid to pass our GCSES, have 10 kids all by differant women and spend our days off our heads on crack cocaine.

This would be funny if it weren't so tragic.

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The decline in society is because of the Liberal ideology going around the Western World.

We know it doesnt work, so does everybody else yet some people think their personal freedoms come before society as a whole and as such we decend further into barbarianism.

It will only stop when we are all mixed race, gay, atheist, to stupid to pass our GCSES, have 10 kids all by differant women and spend our days off our heads on crack cocaine.

If we dont wnat it we better pull our fingers out pretty fast.

The decline of society is utter tripe thanks to a completely unrealistic and senseless view of the past.

Social decline? Far safer now than you were 100 years ago, far less murder, warring, crime in general and society as a whole is far more stable.

But don't let that stop you talking tripe.

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Alien being are you suggesting that the Democratic system should be scraped?

I disagree.....

Any thoughts?

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It will only stop when we are all mixed race, gay, atheist, to stupid to pass our GCSES, have 10 kids all by differant women and spend our days off our heads on crack cocaine

So you think the biggest threat to this world is "mixed race"? I hope you are aware what happened when some self-righteous people tried to "unmix" them in Germany.

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Industrial Revolution: The Tipping point?

We live in two very different worlds; a world of technical and technological order and clarity, and a world of personal and social disorder and confusion. We are increasingly able to solve problems in one domain and increasingly endangered by our inability to solve problems in the other.

Normal science is successful primarily because it is a domain of knowledge controlled by paradigms. The paradigm defines the standards, principles and methods of the discipline. It is not apparent to the laity but science moves forward in small incremental steps. Science seldom seeks and almost never produces major novelties.

Science solves puzzles. The logic of the paradigm insulates the professional group from problems that are unsolvable by that paradigm. One reason that science progresses so rapidly and with such assurance is because the logic of that paradigm allows the practitioners to work on problems that only their lack of ingenuity will keep them from solving.

Science uses instrumental rationality to solve puzzles. Instrumental rationality is a systematic process for reflecting upon the best action to take to reach an established end. The obvious question becomes what mode of rationality is available for determining ends? Instrumental rationality appears to be of little use in determining such matters as good and right.

There is a striking difference between the logic of technical problems and that of dialectical problems. The principles, methods and standards for dealing with technical problems and problems of real life are as different as night and day. Real life problems cannot be solved only using deductive and inductive reasoning.

Dialectical reasoning methods require the ability to slip quickly between contradictory lines of reasoning. One needs skill to develop a synthesis of one point of view with another. Where technical matters are generally confined to only one well understood frame of reference real life problems become multi-dimensional totalities.

When we think dialectically we are guided by principles not by procedures. Real life problems span multiple categories and academic disciplines. We need point-counter-point argumentation; we need emancipatory reasoning to resolve dialectical problems. We need critical thinking skills and attitudes to resolve real life problems.

How can we become intellectually sophisticated enough to survive our own technological success?

Can our civilization survive much longer if our citizens fail to become more intellectually sophisticated? Presently it is apparent to me that few citizens have any idea of the problems that we face. If the citizens do not comprehend what is going on they certainly will be unwilling to make the sacrifices required.

I suspect that we have already past the tipping point. The tipping point is that situation in history, if past, cannot be recovered. There is a tipping point in the human body such that if reached the immune system in the body cannot recover and eventually heal the body.

I suspect that the human species tipping point might have been the Industrial Revolution.

They tranquilize themselves with the trivial.Kierkegaard

This is a very important topic. When I was in college I had an instructor who brought up the same point involving medical practices. He stated that we have advanced our medical technology to the point that we don't know what to do with patients anymore. Under optimal conditions we can sustain a body almost indefinitely, people don't die they just continue on existing long after there is no chance of revival. Nobody has sat down and decided what the "right" thing to do. Medical advances have brought up scenarios that we have never even considered and we don't know what to do.

Jav

Edited by Javril

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Social decline? Far safer now than you were 100 years ago, far less murder, warring, crime in general and society as a whole is far more stable.

But don't let that stop you talking tripe.

The world around the computer screen that you are seeing is not a worldly average. You are at the pinnacle of our existence.

The stark realty of average human life today is imposed starvation, conflict and poverty.

Your society around your hi-tech computerized society system is truly far safer. It is haven. But average life is worse today than any proposed global state in history.

Talking tripe is relative to what an observer is ignorant thereof.

This IS a seemingly very important subject, however what is, has become, and can only be ascribed as natural. Tipping points in new low entropic systems are necessary for new chaos systems, so that universal evolution can continue.

Our world today has one thing unique, however, which has the feeling of this thread within it. We are global, and these tipping points are indeed sensitively precarious.

A global new heightening of entropy may be on the cards alright.

This would be the new chaos but necessary for the thereafter organization.

If there was no bad, we could not know good, as there would be nothing to compare it to.

Edited by Jove

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