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New photo of Face on Mars proves Red Planet's

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Once again, as a historian, nothing would give me greater happiness than learning that there was an ancient civilization on Mars or that there might have been ET visitors in the past. I'd be pleased if there were real historical or scientific evidence for something like this, but evidently this isn't it.

I know there have been many technical arguments over the years about the vailidity of these "Face on Mars" pictures, but I never said much about them because I didn't know much about the science and technology involved.

Well, too bad we haven't yet found any relics or artifacts of an alien civilization out there--maybe we will someday. Just the fact they we have advanced so rapidly in a relatively short time to even be able to take pictures of Mars is remarkable. This would have been pure science fiction 100 years ago.

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We all mostly agree on this point,and If by chance someday we Dig up a Alien space craft with a Cro-magnum Man at the Controls we may need to change the History Book`s !

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I can't believe anyone really thought it was a face in the first place. (The real face was eroded by the canals eons ago.)

What does this mean for the Martian Stonehenge? :P

I keep seeing faces in the clouds, I know they're living in our atmosphere. Hurricane Katrina was an alien conspiracy! B)

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This is pretty funny, the second I looked at the picture in the OP's link, I immediately saw a face. Am I the only one? If anything it looks way more pronounced than any old pictures of "the face". In fact I never really cared much for the whole face on Mars idea and wasn't really convinced. Looking at this picture, the right side that's in the shadows really appears to be half of a face. :) I see an eye a nose and a mouth, he looks like he's p***ed. And the left edge of the shadow is the peak where symmetry on the other side should appear, there appears to be a "brow" to line up with the eye on the opposite side.

Anyway, how big is this mountain? Just curious. In the old pictures I think what intrigued me more than the fact that it looked like a face was just the fact that it looked like the mountain came out of a plain, but that might just be the way it's isolated in the image.

I certainly understand what you are saying xris, and there are extremes in both camps (although I hate that division into camps). But I will also say that some of the skeptics that delivered "cheap' jabs in this respect are also the skeptics that were the first to give very detailed explanations on what was being seen in earlier images, giving substantial references and generally spending a lot of time explaining in layman's terms what they perceived the images to show. Just to be met with a shrug and Hoagland knows better. Now, that can make some people a bit antsy, Particularly when it happens over and over again. So yeah, a couple of cheap jabs seems reasonable now and then.

There are extremes on both ends of the spectrum if you ask me. It's great to have a healthy amount of skepticism, but some step over the edge and become debunkers, uninterested in the possibility of any truth in dissenting ideas at all. These positions are just as disrespectful as the fringers that refuse to listen to reason.

I totally understand that you're saying people can get irritated to continuously repeat their claims, but I'm new here, and when I come in, I see disrespectful behavior. I don't think it serves a cause to become bitter to the opposition and show it, especially when people who didn't see the past history are looking in, making their own conclusions on what's happening in the present. There are plenty of strong skeptics on this board, if you're feeling irritated, leave it to another, I'm sure someone will jump on it when something ridiculous pops up. If you can't hold a high standard it might be better to not comment, because it just makes fence sitters think you're being dismissive.

Of course, it's fine to have a good sense of humor, and in case you didn't catch it, that's what my first paragraph was about. :ph34r:

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I don't know how anyone can wholeheartedly say that this Nasa image is final proof that debunks the mythical face on Mars. It's only a partial picture of part of the so called face rather than the whole face and even if there was a face on Mars, most of it would of probably eroded away by now. If people are going to prove something or debunk something, at least be rational about it and use good reasoning while doing so.:unsure2:

There's plenty of eroded pyramids on Earth that to onlookers no longer look like pyramids, but that doesn't change the fact that in the past they were pyramids.

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/amenemhet3hp.htm

http://www.nemo.nu/ibisportal/0egyptintro/3egypt/3bildsidor/tetipyr.htm

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I'm glad NASA took care of that myth, although I'm sure there will be consipracy theories that live on.

Now I should start by saying that I look at things in the rational mind and the conspiracy mind and going by how governments and wealthy organizations lie to the public constantly not to mention that one a show called The Universe I was watching the scientists said that if alien life were proven that religions would be destroyed, people would become irrational etc etc. And the fact that the "face" on Mars was a leak ie before NASA has a chance to doctor it. Of course NASA is going to say it is just a rock or a mountain or whatever and they have had a couple of years to perfect the picture to make it look like just a rock

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Is it possible? Can it really be that some people on this site actually believe what NASA tells them? NeverAStraightAnswer NASA?)

Next you'll be believing newspapers, politicians and the history channel! :cry:

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Is it possible? Can it really be that some people on this site actually believe what NASA tells them? NeverAStraightAnswer NASA?)

Next you'll be believing newspapers, politicians and the history channel! :cry:

Nah, YouTube is the best place for the real truth about everything.

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Is it possible? Can it really be that some people on this site actually believe what NASA tells them? NeverAStraightAnswer NASA?)

Next you'll be believing newspapers, politicians and the history channel! :cry:

Whereas (say) Alex Jones can be believed? Is it that "independent" sources seem to be trusted more because they're not sponsored by governments or big business? What do people like Alex Jones or those behind other conspiratiorially-minded websites, or people who put something up on Youtube, want? Viewers, listerners, hits, don't they. How would they get them? By being as dramatic as possible and always going for the most dramatic angle, wouldn't they? So in what way are they any different from the mainstream media?

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Is it possible? Can it really be that some people on this site actually believe what NASA tells them? NeverAStraightAnswer NASA?)

Next you'll be believing newspapers, politicians and the history channel! :cry:

Do you actually understand what NASA is telling you? Do you know how to read scientific literature? Do you understand how to do source checking and verification? By all means of respect, but I doubt it given such a post. Do you even know how much of the work done by NASA is in fact done by others outside of NASA - entities completely independent of NASA with their own agendas and policies? Again, by all means of respect, but I doubt it.

Cheers,

Badeskov

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