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What was Andrew's real name?

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The name Andrew is of Hebrew origin. Andrew, the brother of Simon Peter, must have had a Hebrew name. What would that have been? Can anyone help?

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The name Andrew is of Hebrew origin. Andrew, the brother of Simon Peter, must have had a Hebrew name. What would that have been? Can anyone help?

Let me rephrase: The name Andrew is of Greek origin.

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Must there have been a Hebrew name?

If it is a story written in Greek, then I suppose that Greek suffice.

The Swedish name would be Andreas or Anders.

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Must there have been a Hebrew name?

Absolutely

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Well I prefer Andy

But in gaelic it's Anndra

As to the Caananite form of the name? Dunno.

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|18| And walking beside Lake

Kinneret (Sea of Galilee), Rebbe,

Melech HaMoshiach saw two

achim, Shimon, the one being

called Kefa (Petros), and his

brother Andrew, casting a net into

the sea, for they were daiyagim

(fishermen).

|19| And Rebbe, Melech

HaMoshiach says, Come, follow

me, and I will make you daiyagei

adam (fishers of men).

One can note that it's about "andro-" meaning man or male, and also it's a brother.

There could be some unclear meaning to this.

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One can note that it's about "andro-" meaning man or male, and also it's a brother.

There could be some unclear meaning to this.

This may indeed be a clue, although I could not find anything significant under 'man' in Strong's Hebrew Lexicon.

The name ‘Andrew’ may be however a transliteration of a Hebrew name or nickname of similar sound. The nearest I could get to is

Anad (bind, tie up) + rea (thunder, shout, noise)

or alternatively anah (several meanings, including speak, mourn, befall, etc) + dera (an arm).

None of these make particular sense, although the noise/thunder connotation is reminiscent of the ‘Sons of Thunder’, the name of John and James, the sins of Zebedee (Mark 3:17] supposedly interpreted us such from Boanerges.

Zebedee can be interpreted as Ze’abe-diy, meaning That or The Wolf, and Boanerges appears to have a similar meaning from Boao [to halloo or excite a pack of hunting dogs (wolves?)] (see Strong’s translations below)

The_Wolf.jpg

I could not find Hebrew words similar to Nerges, but the word appears to be of Sumerian origin, meaning Lord (Ner) Penis (ges/gis) or Top Dog (ges).

Boanerges can therefore be interpreted to mean something like Halloo-er of the Lord of the Penis (??) or Halloo-er of the Wolf Lord (Top dog= the wolf?).

Can ‘Andrew’ somehow be related to any of this?

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The name Andrew is of Hebrew origin. Andrew, the brother of Simon Peter, must have had a Hebrew name. What would that have been? Can anyone help?

According to Wiki - No Hebrew or Aramaic name is recorded for him. :unsure2:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Andrew

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|17| And Yaakov Ben Zavdai

and Yochanan, Yaakov's

brother. He gave to them the

name Bnei Regesh, (Sons of

Thunder).

|18| And Andrew and

Philippos and Bar-Talmai,

and Mattityahu, and Toma,

and Yaakov Ben Chalfai, and

Taddai, and Shimon the

Zealot,

They speak of Bnei Regesh, (Sons of Thunder).

In the Swedish version it says: "tordönsmän" wich means "men of thunder".

17. vidare Jakob, Sebedeus' son, och Johannes, Jakobs broder, åt vilka han gav tillnamnet Boanerges (det betyder tordönsmän);18. vidare Andreas och Filippus och Bartolomeus och Matteus och Tomas och Jakob, Alfeus' son, och Taddeus och Simon ivraren

Could it also be important if this name, Andreas, existed in Greek beforehand, or if it originated from the NT?

Edit: speech - speak

Edited by Slorri

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According to Wiki - No Hebrew or Aramaic name is recorded for him. :unsure2:

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Saint_Andrew

Ah, he might well have been called Andreas, a Greek name used by the Jews.

like other Greek names, appears to have been common among the Jews from the second or third century BC

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Absolutely

Why must he? Seems a bit silly.

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Most likely, Andrew's Hebrew name would have been 'Avram.' I am Michael Andrew in English, Mordechai Avram is my Hebrew name.

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Most likely, Andrew's Hebrew name would have been 'Avram.' I am Michael Andrew in English, Mordechai Avram is my Hebrew name.

I'm not so sure of this.

Avram = Abram

And when Avram

was ninety and

nine shanah,

Hashem appeared to Avram,

and said unto him, I am El

Shaddai; walk before Me, and

be thou tamim (blameless).

|2| And I will confirm My brit

(covenant) between Me and

thee, and will multiply thee

exceedingly.

|3| And Avram fell on his

face; and Elohim talked with

him, saying,

|4| As for Me, hinei, My brit

(covenant) is with thee, and

thou shalt be an Av of many

Goyim [see 18:18].

|5| Neither shall thy shem

any more be called Avram, but

thy shem shall be Avraham;

for Av hamon Goyim (Father

of a multitude of Goyim) have

I made thee. [T.N. Ga 3:29

says "And if you belong to

Moshiach (YESHAYAH 53:10),

then you are of the ZERAH of

Avraham Avinu, you are

yoreshim (heirs) according to

the havtachah (promise).]

|6| And I will make thee

exceeding fruitful, and I will

make Goyim of thee, and

Melechim shall come out of

thee.

Mordechai = Mordechai

"There was a Jewish man in Shushan Capital whose name was Mordechai, son of Yair, son of Shim'i, from the family of Kish, from the tribe of Benjamin."

Now in Shushan the

capital there was an ish

Yehudi, shmo Mordechai ben

Yair ben Shim'i ben Kish, a

Binyamini.

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I should have used "possibly" instead of "most likely"... Andrew is Greek for 'manly'; Avram is Hebrew for 'fatherly.' It is also possible that Andrew's father chose a completely different name for his son. It's not like there is a conversion chart. <br>

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Avram = Abram

Ab-ra-am could also mean Father (ab) of the seeing (ra'ah) people (am).

From mythology, the seeing people could be the group called the Watchers or Guardians (?).

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The name "Andrew" is of Greek origin, *but* also has a rather nebulous trace back to Hebrew.

Point is, there is no way to trace the name 'Andrew' back to its origin, as far as the use of 'Andrew' in the New Testament is concerned. I would say that this Topic is not going anywhere. :tu: Unless someone has an actual source that nobody else has found over the past centuries?

Karlis

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The name "Andrew" is of Greek origin, *but* also has a rather nebulous trace back to Hebrew.

Point is, there is no way to trace the name 'Andrew' back to its origin, as far as the use of 'Andrew' in the New Testament is concerned. I would say that this Topic is not going anywhere. :tu: Unless someone has an actual source that nobody else has found over the past centuries?

Karlis

My purpose for starting this thread was to find out if anyone might know more about Andrew than I do (very little). This turned out not to be the case. Thanks for your interest nevertheless.

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My purpose for starting this thread was to find out if anyone might know more about Andrew than I do (very little). This turned out not to be the case. Thanks for your interest nevertheless.

wooah, sorry I'm late

greek Andrew - meaning Man/Warrior

hebrew Gabriyel - meaning Man of god/Warrior of god

lose the God part (El), you can call him Gabe if you like

:tu:

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