crystal sage Posted October 24, 2010 #101 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Hans: With no results other than making more money for themselves - that isn't illegal or immoral its just interesting. Hans: if there IS a secret. Lots and lots of UFO people have made all kinds of statements and have had nothing bad happen to them My link Hans: They were trying to arrest him for income tax and other reasons. You do know he had revoked his opinions on a number of key UFO issues? INJURIES, EXTERNAL AND INTERNAL:There are six penetrating and three perforating gunshot wounds to the head, torso, and extremities. There are blunt impact injuries to the head and extremities. These injuries are listed for descriptive purposes only; no sequence is implied. My link My link Hans: not really Hans: And yet nothing happens, nothing at all. No disclosure, no assassination, no particular notice, or careers being destroyed on a regular basis? I don't think so. The UFO fad peeked decades ago and has evolved into a type of new age religion...Well the scientists seem to have a hard time.. http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc826.htmMy link Hans: Movements that don't achieve their purpose tend to spin down into long term money generators just like rebels of failed causes often turn into criminal gangs My link My link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crystal sage Posted October 24, 2010 #102 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Anyway there is enough evidence.. and first hand accounts of present encounters for us to realize that there very much could have been ET Contact and so in terms of our history that these Extra terrestrial visitors.. could very much have been the gods, angels and star people of ancient history and legends.Why else was there so much interest in the stars .. the moons.. the sudden leaps and declines in civilizations whose core beliefs centred on the influence of various amazingly powerful gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted October 24, 2010 #103 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Anyway there is enough evidence.. and first hand accounts of present encounters for us to realize that there very much could have been ET Contact and so in terms of our history that these Extra terrestrial visitors.. could very much have been the gods, angels and star people of ancient history and legends.Why else was there so much interest in the stars .. the moons.. the sudden leaps and declines in civilizations whose core beliefs centred on the influence of various amazingly powerful gods. Could you pleazzzee show us some that we cannot take apart within the shortest time as fabricated, brain m********ion or made up on the go? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted October 24, 2010 #104 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Howdy Cormac I thought that the beams from ground based radar that were directed at Mars and Venus were the most powerful signals we've sent so far. I seem to recall they would have been powerful enough to have made it to the nearest stars. Have you heard of those? Those were amongst the more powerful signals sent, but keep in mind that both Mars and Venus are two of our nearest neighbors. I've yet to come across anything suggesting that the problem with signal attenuation has been solved. One of the farthest man-made objects of which we are (barely) in contact with is Voyager 1, which is more than 113.478 AU (16.976 billion km, or 10.549 billion miles) or 0.002 of a light-year from the Sun) from Earth and nowhere near our closest stellar neighbor, Proxima Centauri, at 4.2 light years. I have, though, sent an email to the public affairs section of NASA in regards to this question concerning radio communications in outer space and am awaiting a reply. Will post it here upon receipt. cormac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akatsuki-pein Posted October 24, 2010 #105 Share Posted October 24, 2010 the gods could be aliens im not saying there not, But If they were aliens, i dont believe they would show such programs proving or speculizing such on tv unless other intentions were made while doing so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalcase Posted October 24, 2010 #106 Share Posted October 24, 2010 (edited) We are alien. Well, at some point in "Earths life evolution". Life did not originate here or, at least, that's my opinion! We sail through endless skies stars shine like eyes the black night sighs The moon in silver trees falls down in tears light of the night The earth, a purple blaze of sapphire haze in orbit always While down below the trees bathed in cool breeze silver starlight breaks down the night And so we pass on by the crimson eye of great god Mars as we travel the universe Watch this video, the animation looks ancient but, it is a treat on the eyes and for the soul!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gym2UXYRz98 Edited October 24, 2010 by Mentalcase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some-Like-It-Hot Posted October 24, 2010 #107 Share Posted October 24, 2010 From the prophet Ezekiel: "Now as I beheld the living creatures, behold one wheel upon the earth by the living creatures, with his four faces. The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the color of the beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel. When they went they went upon four sides: and they turned not as they went. As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes round about them four. And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheel were lifted up." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akatsuki-pein Posted October 24, 2010 #108 Share Posted October 24, 2010 i have listened to documentaries of how some believe we are from meteorites they flew by and gave off bacterial spores which came down and made us. And That the Human specie is not only known to this planet, as we are spread across the vast starry night ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalcase Posted October 24, 2010 #109 Share Posted October 24, 2010 i have listened to documentaries of how some believe we are from meteorites they flew by and gave off bacterial spores which came down and made us. And That the Human specie is not only known to this planet, as we are spread across the vast starry night ;D That is basically what the video I posted represents, please watch it! You have to factor in the fact that we (and all living creatures) evolve based on our environment. So, if you have lower/higher gravity fields, different elements in an atmosphere, etc, etc., all creatures would look entirely different. Some features may be universal, but, all that life needs, is energy to thrive. So what ever makes it easier to live, they will evolve in that manner. Also, life originated from a single source, or at least, that's what we've come to believe. If we can prove that life elsewhere on our planet has a different code/DNA structure, then we will have proven the Panspermia theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolarPlexus Posted October 24, 2010 #110 Share Posted October 24, 2010 (edited) From the prophet Ezekiel: "Now as I beheld the living creatures, behold one wheel upon the earth by the living creatures, with his four faces. The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the color of the beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel. When they went they went upon four sides: and they turned not as they went. As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes round about them four. And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheel were lifted up." Edited October 24, 2010 by SolarPlexus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted October 25, 2010 #111 Share Posted October 25, 2010 And even if there is a habitable planet with technologically advanced intelligent life 100 light years away from us, they would just now be getting signals from us, and who is to say that they could decipher those signals in the first place? In fact, even this is unlikely. Signals from Earth are subject to the inverse-square law. Any signals sent 100 years ago would today be so attenuated as to be indistinguishable from background noise for any such alien civilization. I realize that a lot of people have used this idea. That doesn't change the fact that it simply doesn't fly. Harte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted October 25, 2010 #112 Share Posted October 25, 2010 In fact, even this is unlikely. Signals from Earth are subject to the inverse-square law. Any signals sent 100 years ago would today be so attenuated as to be indistinguishable from background noise for any such alien civilization. I realize that a lot of people have used this idea. That doesn't change the fact that it simply doesn't fly. Harte Hmm, is there an echo in here? cormac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted October 25, 2010 #113 Share Posted October 25, 2010 LOL @ the hair! If anyone's hair was scary, it was his partner in crime in the Ancient Aliens series from The History Channel who said something like "I don't just believe the Ancient Astronaut Theory, I'm convinced!" That guy cracked me up on so many levels... And as to the other part, on the contrary, you have a wealth of perspective to contribute. You strike me as a thoughtful and reasonable human being. That is all it takes to contribute value to a debate such as this. The point you raised earlier about assumptions is completely valid and topical to our discussion here, for example. A bit of research and well-thought argument is all it takes to contribute value to the forum. And you can deliver that as you have already demonstrated. Giorgio Tsoukalos. He should think with his hair - it's bigger than his brain: Harte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booNyzarC Posted October 25, 2010 #114 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Just because I was too lazy to lay that additional detail out does not infer that it wasn't in my mind. I completely agree with what you illustrious gentlemen have stated. Thank you for voicing what was already in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVeryFirstDinosaur Posted October 25, 2010 #115 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted October 25, 2010 #116 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Hmm, is there an echo in here? cormac Yeah, kind of jumped the gun there, didn't I? I should realize that I can just sit back and read. After all, Cormac's got it covered! Harte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booNyzarC Posted October 25, 2010 #117 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Giorgio Tsoukalos. He should think with his hair - it's bigger than his brain: Harte His hair is more noteworthy on every imaginable scale when compared to his brain. Methinks he is attempting to sport the look of someone with grand intelligence... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted October 25, 2010 #118 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Yeah, kind of jumped the gun there, didn't I? I should realize that I can just sit back and read. After all, Cormac's got it covered! Harte We can never have too many people stating the facts. Especially when some think that "what might be" means the same as "what actually is". Or that what we "might" find in the future is relevant to what we actually know today. cormac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVeryFirstDinosaur Posted October 25, 2010 #119 Share Posted October 25, 2010 (edited) Giorgio Tsoukalos has some of the stupidest, most unprofessional hair that I've ever witnessed. And, I've seen a lot of bad hairstyles. Edited October 25, 2010 by New Ares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booNyzarC Posted October 25, 2010 #120 Share Posted October 25, 2010 We can never have too many people stating the facts. Especially when some think that "what might be" means the same as "what actually is". Or that what we "might" find in the future is relevant to what we actually know today. cormac Dream killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted October 25, 2010 #121 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Dream killer. BS Killer!! cormac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolarPlexus Posted October 25, 2010 #122 Share Posted October 25, 2010 (edited) Methinks he is attempting to sport the look of someone with grand intelligence... Einstein was absolutely above-average but, in truth, hadly an archetype (contrary to his modern image). He was largely a charlatan who stole ideas from Mileva Maric, his brilliant wife, like Tesla said. That's a true genious, not Einstein. Edited October 25, 2010 by SolarPlexus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booNyzarC Posted October 25, 2010 #123 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Einstein was absolutely above-average but, in truth, hadly an archetype (contrary to his modern image). He was largely a charlatan who stole ideas from Mileva Maric, his brilliant wife, like Tesla said. That's a true genious, not Einstein. I'll start to take anything that you say seriously when you start to actually provide evidence to back it up. In other words; when hell freezes over. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolarPlexus Posted October 25, 2010 #124 Share Posted October 25, 2010 (edited) No problem, it's not like i care... Edited October 25, 2010 by SolarPlexus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booNyzarC Posted October 25, 2010 #125 Share Posted October 25, 2010 No problem, it's not like i care... But of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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