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New book identifies Ireland as Atlantis

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04/08/2004 - 10:21:27

A new book investigating the myth of Atlantis says that the mythical land was actually the island of Ireland.

The claim is made by geologist Ulf Erlingsson in his book 'Atlantis from a Geographer’s Perspective: Mapping the Fairy Land', who is to visit Ireland on August 11 to 13.

In his book Erlingsson bases his evidence on Plato's desription of Atlantis which, according to Erlinsson, matches Ireland perfectly. Statistically, the scientist claims, the probability is over 99.98% that Plato was describing Ireland.

Erlingsson says: "Just like Atlantis, Ireland is 300 miles long, 200 miles wide, and widest over the middle. They both feature a central plain that is open to the sea, but fringed by mountains. No other island on earth even comes close to this description."

“What has led most students astray is that Atlantis sank in the sea”, says Dr Erlingsson.

“It is an ‘Atlantic myth’ all right – but a myth from, not about, Atlantis”.

"The island that sank was Dogger Bank. It was struck by a disastrous flood-wave around 6,100 BC, and now rests deep under the waves of the North Sea."

In the book, Dr Erlingsson shows how the Atlantic Empire probably can be associated with the megalithic monuments of Europe and Northern Africa. Their geographic distribution matches the extent of the Atlantic Empire as Plato described it.

The Atlantean capital can be connected with Tara, the legendary seat of the high king of Ireland.

The temples of Poseidon and the ancestors match up well with the so-called passage tombs of Newgrange and Knowth, in the Boyne valley.

They are the oldest roofed buildings anywhere in the world.

Ulf Erlingsson has a Ph.D. in Physical Geography from Uppsala University.

His specialty is geological processes, under-water research, and natural disasters—

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I think the good Doctor Erlingsson has had a touch too much of the poteen (a very strong alcoholic drink made by the Irish from potatoes! laugh.gif

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It's not the first time someone has claimed Ireland is Atlantis. This isn't an original theory. But it's too far away from the Mediterrean for est. trade routes.

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I read recently (don't remember the source) that the Atlantis was actually the island of Avalon.

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Well it is a step up from the guy that said Atlantis is antarctica...

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04/08/2004 - 10:21:27

A new book investigating the myth of Atlantis says that the mythical land was actually the island of Ireland.

The claim is made by geologist Ulf Erlingsson in his book 'Atlantis from a Geographer’s Perspective: Mapping the Fairy Land', who is to visit Ireland on August 11 to 13.

In his book Erlingsson bases his evidence on Plato's desription of Atlantis which, according to Erlinsson, matches Ireland perfectly. Statistically, the scientist claims, the probability is over 99.98% that Plato was describing Ireland.

Erlingsson says: "Just like Atlantis, Ireland is 300 miles long, 200 miles wide, and widest over the middle. They both feature a central plain that is open to the sea, but fringed by mountains. No other island on earth even comes close to this description."

“What has led most students astray is that Atlantis sank in the sea”, says Dr Erlingsson.

“It is an ‘Atlantic myth’ all right – but a myth from, not about, Atlantis”.

"The island that sank was Dogger Bank. It was struck by a disastrous flood-wave around 6,100 BC, and now rests deep under the waves of the North Sea."

In the book, Dr Erlingsson shows how the Atlantic Empire probably can be associated with the megalithic monuments of Europe and Northern Africa. Their geographic distribution matches the extent of the Atlantic Empire as Plato described it.

The Atlantean capital can be connected with Tara, the legendary seat of the high king of Ireland.

The temples of Poseidon and the ancestors match up well with the so-called passage tombs of Newgrange and Knowth, in the Boyne valley.

They are the oldest roofed buildings anywhere in the world.

Ulf Erlingsson has a Ph.D. in Physical Geography from Uppsala University.

His specialty is geological processes, under-water research, and natural disasters—

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Ulf eringsson?

Atlantis from a geographers perspective mapping the fairyland?

He is having a laugh grin2.gif

Plato says that atlantis was destroyed by a natural disaster 9000years before his own time 427bc to 347bc.

ulf reckons he got mixed up with dogger bank an island sunk in the north sea 6100bc

Plutarch a greek historian born in the reign of the roman emperor Claudius tells of saturnia or Ogygia (atlantis) 5 days sail to the west of britain.

Ulf is full of s**t mate or drugs..

does Ulf majic mushroom explain how Plato got the sinking of doggor bank confused with the non sinking of Atlantis(Ireland)? wink2.gif

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It's not the first time someone has claimed Ireland is Atlantis. This isn't an original theory. But it's too far away from the Mediterrean for est. trade routes.

Well, it's actually not true.

The Phoenicians, Hebrew traders from Canaan, reached the British Isles in 1000bc, and traded with the local Celts, and even built tin mines in Cornwell.

It is known that Phoenician culture affected Greek culture profoundly, both in religion (and mythology), and both in technology (such as the alphabet, which was brought to Greece by the Phoenicians).

The Greeks adopted the diety named Adonis, which is actually the god Adonai from Canaanite mythology. They also adopted Europa and other names which derived from Phoenician mythology.

It could very well be that the Phoenicians, being that they arrived to Britain 3,000 years ago and did trades with the locals, that they've learned about that story, and passed it to the Egyptians (which many Phoenicians were working for), which passed it down to the Greeks, or maybe it came strait from Phoenician mouth to Greek ear.

(It is also though that Red-headness among the ancient Canaanites and Israelites might have been originated from Israelites and Canaanites, who spoke the same language as Phoenicians, and some of the Israelite tribes actually lived in the territories which considered to be Phoenicia, who sailed for the British Isles to do trade, and married local Pictish or Celtic girls, which they brought back with them to Canaan).

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Begot, begot, begot, begot (reference to bible term). The story has been passed down so many times that sometimes the story begins to have no origin. Someone begot the story, then someone else begot the story, and then someone else, someone else, etc... until now! So many people claim they have found Atlantis. Don't you think that over the eons (thousands of years) of change and tectonic plate shifting that the island may be buried where is can not be visibly seen? Atlantis wouldn't be just sitting there in the open? According to Plato, Atlantis was larger than Libya and Asia Minor combined, however it est. trade routes easily within the Mediterranean with many different cultures. It was the center of the ancient world. If it was indeed Ireland, it would be far our of the reach of most of these trade routes. Granted its outside the Pillars of Heracles like Plato said and in the Atlantic Ocean, but once again, its too out of range of most of the easily est. trade route est. in the Mediterranean. And where are the ruins of Atlantis? The mighty temples, the golden idols, its structures?

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I don't believe it

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Intersestin conection someone mentioned, the conbineing of the myths of avalon and atlantis, anyone else think this could hit big. They both sunk afterall. hmmmmmmmmmmmm. huh.gif

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sweet

now I can tell everyone that im an atlantean if they ask .

XD

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I thought they found atlantis somewhere in South America dontgetit.gif .

Edited by Cradle of Fish

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They've managed to "find" Atlantis everywhere.

I sitll think it was just a morality tale. Maybe it was loosely based on destruction of volcanic Mediterranean islands. Accounts of Ireland might have been a source of details too; that theory is more plausible than most of the others I heard. Plato also talks about a Greek-Atlantis war 10,000 years ago. There wasn't any Greek civilization that long ago, or any complex civilization that we know of. It's just a story.

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so true, it COULD very well be a story, but some of us (not myself) like to cling to the possiblitly that there was once something more out there. A supper civilization that was WAY more complex than we're ever likely to get anytime soon. But then agian, people have managed to find Atlantis halfway across the globe in the waters off Japan. Unlikely. I think this is one MYTH that has evolved out of other myths to creat is own unique form that has left an imprint on our society today. I still like to this Atlantis is conected to Avalon somehow. But then again King Arthur is anouther one of those myths we just can't seem to prove. And to some that is prove enought that they don't exist.

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If there's an island in the Atlantic eventually someone will say it's Atlantis. The truth is we'll probably never know for sure where it was or if it even really existed..

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so true

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its not possible that Ireland to be Atlantis. as sed in the beginning, if it was, there would be acient ruins there. and so far there has been nothing found...at least not to my knowledge. blink.gif

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its not possible that Ireland to be Atlantis. as sed in the beginning, if it was, there would be acient ruins there. and so far there has been nothing found...at least not to my knowledge. blink.gif

Archeology makes discoveries every day. Two weeks ago while digging for a new highway south of the Balkan mountains, a crew of Bulgarian road workers found the ruins of a village dating from 10 000 years ago. Nobody expected to find a village that old there and the oldest settlements in that region are about 5000 years old. So it is quite possible that if they dig in the right places in Ireland they may find quite interesting things...

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I still think Atlantis exists and was submerged. If anyone can find a copy of the book titled "Oera Linda Book" (which is my screen name for AIM cool.gif ) by an author with the last name Linda; buy it! I belive this manuscript shows the location and specifics on Atlantis (or 'Atland' as the book calls it).

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if they dig in the right places in Ireland they may find quite interesting things...

But they probably won't....England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland are inhabited by "millions" of amatuer archaeologists, who dig the country up constantly. If there was something there (Ireland is smaller than a lot of our states), it would have been found by now! laugh.gif

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England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland are inhabited by "millions" of amatuer archaeologists, who dig the country up constantly. If there was something there (Ireland is smaller than a lot of our states), it would have been found by now! laugh.gif

Not entirely accurate. The older the civ, the deeper burried (and the more scattered the findings), so a really ancient civ could be in a depth just not accesible to "amateurs"

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Not entirely accurate. The older the civ, the deeper burried (and the more scattered the findings), so a really ancient civ could be in a depth just not accesible to "amateurs"

That isn’t true either, I have been on digs that dated back 10000 to 15000 years that were only centimeters beneath the surface and been on digs that dated back only 1000 years that were meters below the surface. I’ve seen sites where the findings were scattered and where they were “clumped” together. Your statement shows that you have no true knowledge of archaeology or archaeological protocol. Incidentally the passage tombs that were mentioned are quite common in England, Scotland, Wales, Cornwall, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, etc and date back to around 9000 BCE…..A little late for Atlantis, don’t you think? whistling2.gif

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The problem with the 'Ireland as Atlantis' theory is that according to the legend the Greek city-state of Athens was at war with Atlantis.

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How about if we all just say that Ireland was Atlantis then everybody can quit wasting their time looking for it.

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