Fossilized Peyote Button

[lightly]

A good friend found a complete.. fossilized peyote button, in a sandy outcropping in Michigan! He would like to know if it might be valuable... monetarily. Could anyone tell us please what it might be worth ?

[Mentalcase]

How is this friend or you so sure it was a peyote button?

[lightly]

How is this friend or you so sure it was a peyote button?

well, because , he says , it looks exactly like a peyote button.. Only it's fossilized. Apparently he knows what a peyote button looks like.

I'd really like to find out, for his sake, if it is valuable, monetarily, to a Museum of Natural History or a collector or something.

* Hmmm but ya, i guess your right.. it COULD be something else... that looks identical... who knows!? maybe he should get it looked at by a botanist or someone who might be able to verify what it was.

Edited February 13, 2011 by lightly

[ShadowSot]

I have to say... it probably isn't hugely valuable.

A fossil of a fairly common plant doesn't run much, I'd expect.

I don't know for sure, though.

I'd recommend this forum here:

Linkage

It's a forum for fossil hunters and they'd give you a better idea.

[lightly]

I have to say... it probably isn't hugely valuable.

A fossil of a fairly common plant doesn't run much, I'd expect.

I don't know for sure, though.

I'd recommend this forum here:

Linkage

It's a forum for fossil hunters and they'd give you a better idea.

hey thanks a lot ShadowSot, ... i see i'll have to join before i can post or make a topic.. but, i'll probably do it.

[Sarrie02]

A good friend found a complete.. fossilized peyote button, in a sandy outcropping in Michigan! He would like to know if it might be valuable... monetarily. Could anyone tell us please what it might be worth ?

Hello. I am Native American and my tribe would be very interested in getting a hold of that button if it is still available. Even to hold it would be a blessing for us. Please contact me if you can. Sarrie02@hotmail.com

[lightly]

Hello. I am Native American and my tribe would be very interested in getting a hold of that button if it is still available. Even to hold it would be a blessing for us. Please contact me if you can.

Hi, Ok, Thanks. I will contact my friend ( it might take awhile ) .. and then i'll contact you to hook you guys up.

[Abramelin]

Hi, Ok, Thanks. I will contact my friend ( it might take awhile ) .. and then i'll contact you to hook you guys up.

But you will have to check first if it is a true peyote; there are also socalled 'false peyotes':

Peyote is the common name for a species of cactus called Lophophora Williamsii, which has several variants. There are also a few nearly identical variants of a different species known as 'False Peyote', containing little-to-no mescaline. However, False Peyote does contain other psychoactive alkaloids, reported to have delerient effects.

Variants of False Peyote include:

* Lophophora Diffusa

* Lophophora Diffusa Fricii variant

* Lophophora Diffusa Kubesae variant

* Lophophora Diffusa Koeheresii variant

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showwiki.php?title=Peyote

[hetrodoxly]

Hello. I am Native American and my tribe would be very interested in getting a hold of that button if it is still available. Even to hold it would be a blessing for us. Please contact me if you can. Sarrie02@hotmail.com

Hi.

Just out of interest, why?

[lightly]

But you will have to check first if it is a true peyote; there are also socalled 'false peyotes':

Peyote is the common name for a species of cactus called Lophophora Williamsii, which has several variants. There are also a few nearly identical variants of a different species known as 'False Peyote', containing little-to-no mescaline. However, False Peyote does contain other psychoactive alkaloids, reported to have delerient effects.

Variants of False Peyote include:

* Lophophora Diffusa

* Lophophora Diffusa Fricii variant

* Lophophora Diffusa Kubesae variant

* Lophophora Diffusa Koeheresii variant

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showwiki.php?title=Peyote

Thanks Abramelin, i didn't know about the "false" ones . (interesting link too) ... i'm just trying to help my friend. Lophophora Williamsii aren't native to michigan, i don't think, but they may have been Longggggg ago? .. But the use of peyote , as a sacrament, did spread to this area (great lakes) and Canada. I'm not sure how or when one managed to get petrified here.

[Oniomancer]

Yeah...pretty sure he's found some kind of echinoderm, like this:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&gbv=2&biw=987&bih=609&tbm=isch&oq=Cidaris+&aq=f&aqi=g-S2&gs_nf=1&gs_l=img.3..0i24l2.10511.10511.0.10868.1.1.0.0.0.0.85.85.1.1.0.WtsVaS9jzS0&q=Cidaris

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&biw=987&bih=609&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=fossil+sea+urchin&oq=fossil+sea+urchin&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&gs_nf=1&gs_l=img.3..0.21085.25413.0.26782.11.11.0.6.6.0.148.536.3j2.5.0.SLkJRgC1y9M

Seems he's not the first one to make that association either:

Fifth comment down.

[lightly]

Yeah...pretty sure he's found some kind of echinoderm, like this:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&gbv=2&biw=987&bih=609&tbm=isch&oq=Cidaris+&aq=f&aqi=g-S2&gs_nf=1&gs_l=img.3..0i24l2.10511.10511.0.10868.1.1.0.0.0.0.85.85.1.1.0.WtsVaS9jzS0&q=Cidaris

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&biw=987&bih=609&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=fossil+sea+urchin&oq=fossil+sea+urchin&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&gs_nf=1&gs_l=img.3..0.21085.25413.0.26782.11.11.0.6.6.0.148.536.3j2.5.0.SLkJRgC1y9M

Seems he's not the first one to make that association either:

Fifth comment down.

Thanks Oniomancer, that's interesting. There is a striking simlarity .

It would be funny if my friend has found an actual fossilized Lophophora Williamsii which was traded all the way up here to michigan ... and then lost.. and then found !

fossilized echinoderm huh? ... yup, maybe so.

Lol.. you Know things are slow in here when people start searching info on topics THIS boring.