DONTEATUS Posted June 10, 2011 #551 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Welcome to the Forum sum_ergo_cogito. We dont treat most people in here like that. Were all mostly open minded and accepting of all points of view.i.e UFO`s and Roswell LOL ! Just a inside joke on all Forums. But the Mars images are very intresting ,and if you look long enough at anything no telling what one might post as to its nature and origin. We really all are open to new Ideas ! Welcome again! Post up ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sum_ergo_cogito Posted June 11, 2011 #552 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Welcome to the Forum sum_ergo_cogito. We dont treat most people in here like that. Were all mostly open minded and accepting of all points of view.i.e UFO`s and Roswell LOL ! Just a inside joke on all Forums. But the Mars images are very intresting ,and if you look long enough at anything no telling what one might post as to its nature and origin. We really all are open to new Ideas ! Welcome again! Post up ! Thanks, I appreciate that a lot. Some people get so bent out of shape if you don't agree with them on everything. And yes, as John Lennon, it is time to give peas a chance in this whirrled - lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booNyzarC Posted June 11, 2011 #553 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Welcome indeed! Very pleased to make your acquaintance sum_ergo_cogito. I sense a kindred spirit. Tell me if you can see the correlation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sum_ergo_cogito Posted June 11, 2011 #554 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Welcome indeed! Very pleased to make your acquaintance sum_ergo_cogito. I sense a kindred spirit. Tell me if you can see the correlation. I think so yes and thanks for welcoming me - such a nice change from other places where I've posted and been threatened with physical violence for having a differing point of view - I've added some information to my profile that can be reviewed for correlation. My interests vary quite a lot but anything out of the ordinary and I'm in with both feet, so to speak. Still finding my way around and familiarizing myself with the site - hope to establish long and productive relationships on here with other like-minded individuals who have an interest in the unexplained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted June 11, 2011 #555 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I think so yes and thanks for welcoming me - such a nice change from other places where I've posted and been threatened with physical violence for having a differing point of view - I've added some information to my profile that can be reviewed for correlation. My interests vary quite a lot but anything out of the ordinary and I'm in with both feet, so to speak. Still finding my way around and familiarizing myself with the site - hope to establish long and productive relationships on here with other like-minded individuals who have an interest in the unexplained. welcome SEC.....you don't mind if I call you that I hope...your user name is quite a mouthful.. I would be fascinated to read a thread from somewhere else where you've been threatened with violence...not because of the violence bit, especially, but because it's interesting and informative what other people have to say about 'Bio Station Alpha' and you have evidently taken part in some heated discussions do you have a link, matey cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted June 11, 2011 #556 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Welcome indeed! Very pleased to make your acquaintance sum_ergo_cogito. I sense a kindred spirit. Tell me if you can see the correlation. I am therefore, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moscow Posted June 11, 2011 #557 Share Posted June 11, 2011 (edited) Hi, ! ) What can be this? 83°52'18.65"N 147°19'23.87"E 84°54'59.59"N 137°26'20.19"E 83°34'57.88"N 149°17'23.22"E 84°31'8.96"N 162°59'15.44"E Edited June 11, 2011 by moscow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted June 11, 2011 #558 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Hi, ! ) What can be this? 83°52'18.65"N 147°19'23.87"E 84°54'59.59"N 137°26'20.19"E 83°34'57.88"N 149°17'23.22"E 84°31'8.96"N 162°59'15.44"E don't know.....but THANKS for sharing and welcome to the forum.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted June 11, 2011 #559 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I put it on Photobucket......and applied the 'auto fix' it's best if you look at it 3 feet ish from computer screen.. edit to say...make that 5 ish feet...lol . Good job! It looks like a giant machine as if it turns like a crank does in a engine. It looks like it rotates just saying! Cheers....I just applied 'auto fix' and photobucket did the rest... I looked at it long and hard with a 'drilling machine' in mind..... but at the moment I'm still pulled towards 'nuclear rocket'..... ( errant-pixel-supporters don't panic...just specualtion) I been wondering where I parked that damn thing thanks for finding it for me sorry it started such a big fight. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcin Posted June 11, 2011 #560 Share Posted June 11, 2011 (edited) That guy again... meh. Want to have some more interesting stuff to talk about? Take a look at some of these and flame away giant mars anchor?: http://worldufophotos.org/site/#/gallery/mars/mars-structure-nasa-copyright/ weird geological formation "slash" ruins?: http://worldufophotos.org/site/#/gallery/mars/mars-inca-city-march-1998-nasa-copyright/ parallel tracks on mars surface decades before 1st rover landing?: http://worldufophotos.org/site/#/gallery/mars/mars-parallel-tracks-1967-before-any-landings-on-mars-nasa-copyright/ ???: http://worldufophotos.org/site/#/gallery/mars/january-2007-mars-opportunity-mission-5-09-ats-above-top-secret-nasa-copyright/ or maybe you'd rather take a stab at egyptians on mars ?: http://worldufophotos.org/site/#/gallery/mars/mars-statue-on-mars-egyptian/ Heh, and that's just one website with images available to public, think about what NASA has stashed away in it's "special occassions" folder Edited June 11, 2011 by Marcin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moscow Posted June 11, 2011 #561 Share Posted June 11, 2011 and welcome to the forum.... Thanx, i`m glad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curiouse Posted June 11, 2011 #562 Share Posted June 11, 2011 "WTF"?. Isn't it amazing,Lets hope we get a better image and soon, so we can really see what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pax Unum Posted June 11, 2011 #563 Share Posted June 11, 2011 "WTF"?. Isn't it amazing,Lets hope we get a better image and soon, so we can really see what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmk1245 Posted June 11, 2011 #564 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Hi, ! ) What can be this? 83°52'18.65"N 147°19'23.87"E 84°54'59.59"N 137°26'20.19"E 83°34'57.88"N 149°17'23.22"E 84°31'8.96"N 162°59'15.44"E Thats just because of connecting different images into "one" on the spherical body. Another example of this sort of google artifact - 77°39'21.64"N 24°58'29.70"E (note distinctive edges of separate images, just zoom in/out few times... on google Earth, of course): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmk1245 Posted June 11, 2011 #565 Share Posted June 11, 2011 (edited) double post, sorry Edited June 11, 2011 by bmk1245 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseCuster Posted June 11, 2011 #566 Share Posted June 11, 2011 (edited) Despite the fact that it's been very well explained by others why this is a glitch, I thought I'd come at this from another direction. I came across this topic on another forum and while googling the subject, found this thread. Anyway, the problem is that people don't understand the resolution of the photo they're looking at. If you zoom in on Google Mars so that "Bio Station Alpha" is nice and big, you can see that the terrain surrounding it is very blurry and blocky. There's no detail whatsoever - no rocks or ground detail is visible - just a blurry mess of a background. If you examine it you can actually see the vertical and horizontal color banding that represents the actual pixels of the original image. You can see that the original pixels are actually about the same size as the north-south diameter of "Bio Station Alpha". What's happening here is that Google Earth is doing something similar to the anti-aliasing that games and graphics software does to smooth out low resolution textures - a blurry texture looks better than a blocky texture. If you look at the Mars desert background surrounding "Bio Station Alpha". you can see the same vertical fading amongst the blocks that represent the pixels of the original digital image. It's just more subtle because there's no much difference in color amongst the dull browns of the Martian desert. However, if there's a high contrast between a feature and the surrounding terrain, that vertical color fading is more obvious. It's trivially easy to demonstrate this. To the east of "Bio Station Alpha" there's some sort of geographical feature that has lots of objects randomly scattered in the desert. The objects are brighter than the background so stand out easily. At a distance you can see that they are irregularly shaped and randomly distributed. I suspect that the color contrast is an artefact of either how the image was processed or the time of day the picture was taken. You can see that east of "Bio Station Alpha" there is an obvious vertical discontinuity where 2 images were stitched together in Google Earth and to the west of the discontinuity, the white objects don't appear. Here's a screen grab of the area in question. If you zoom in closer, you'll see something like the following: (note the low resolution of the pics - you can see the blockiness of the pixels even though Google is trying to blur it out) Zoom in, take a screenshot, and load it into Photoshop or a similar graphics package. Rotate it to a jaunty angle, apply some brightness and contrast to artificially make it look better, like the image of "Bio Station Alpha" that was already post several times, and hey presto! you've got yourself a little cluster of "Mini Bio Stations"! The problem is clearly that lots of people don't realise they are looking at an extremely low resolution image blown up. They think those color gradients of the "cylinders" is photographic detail when it's just Google's automatic image processing blurring out the pixels. Like I said, you can even see the same effect in the brown background, it's just subtler because of the more subtle range of colours. Yes, it's not as interesting or artificial looking as "Bio Station Alpha", but that's because the same post-processing on an image that had a neat row of white pixels because some sort of data glitch (as was very well explained by someone else, using 3 images from a series to show that there was only one with that row of white pixels in this location), produce a more striking effect. What I did wasn't as effect as it was with oddly shaped natural formations with less dramatic color drop off than nice square white pixels on a brown terrain. Edited June 11, 2011 by Archimedes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booNyzarC Posted June 11, 2011 #567 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Welcome Archimedes. All relevant points indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farandaway Posted June 11, 2011 #568 Share Posted June 11, 2011 LOOK---Tents----Archimedes has just proved there is life on Mars! I knew it! Just kidding...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseCuster Posted June 11, 2011 #569 Share Posted June 11, 2011 LOOK---Tents----Archimedes has just proved there is life on Mars! I knew it! Just kidding...... I've clearly found a massive encampment of a Martian army on the warpath! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farandaway Posted June 11, 2011 #570 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I've clearly found a massive encampment of a Martian army on the warpath! LOL The 'Face' better look out, he's in trouble! Sorry, I need more coffee... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sum_ergo_cogito Posted June 11, 2011 #571 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Hi, ! ) What can be this? 83°52'18.65"N 147°19'23.87"E 84°54'59.59"N 137°26'20.19"E 83°34'57.88"N 149°17'23.22"E 84°31'8.96"N 162°59'15.44"E Hi moscow - have you tried re-finding the images on here - http://www.uahirise.org/ - a site where there are high resolution images of Mars. The images you posted again look like compression pixelation from high res to low res and is probably nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sum_ergo_cogito Posted June 11, 2011 #572 Share Posted June 11, 2011 welcome SEC.....you don't mind if I call you that I hope...your user name is quite a mouthful.. I would be fascinated to read a thread from somewhere else where you've been threatened with violence...not because of the violence bit, especially, but because it's interesting and informative what other people have to say about 'Bio Station Alpha' and you have evidently taken part in some heated discussions do you have a link, matey cheers don't mind the abbrev, bee - it's like 'hold on a sec' - lol - anyways, here's the link - http://news.discovery.com/space/i-wish-there-was-already-a-base-on-mars-110607.html - I go on there quite often but some people get down right nasty at times, which is unfortunate. looks like things will be different on here, so far everyone has been very pleasant. enjoy the link although it's getting a bit stale and there probably aren't many posting to it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algomeysa Posted June 11, 2011 #573 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Since this topic is probably causing a lot of people to play with Google Mars for the first time... My favorite place in Google Mars is this natural land bridge, the only remnant left of the roof of a lava tube tunnel at 24.484 -171.865 I think we should send a rover there, for the express purpose of jumping up and down on that bridge like Short Round in TEMPLE OF DOOM. "See, strong bridge! Strong bridge!" *crack* As a secondary objective, it can bungie-jump over the side and see if there are any Martian trolls living under the bridge. http://planetary.org/blog/article/00000793/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pax Unum Posted June 12, 2011 #574 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Since this topic is probably causing a lot of people to play with Google Mars for the first time... My favorite place in Google Mars is this natural land bridge, the only remnant left of the roof of a lava tube tunnel at 24.484 -171.865 I think we should send a rover there, for the express purpose of jumping up and down on that bridge like Short Round in TEMPLE OF DOOM. "See, strong bridge! Strong bridge!" *crack* As a secondary objective, it can bungie-jump over the side and see if there are any Martian trolls living under the bridge. http://planetary.org/blog/article/00000793/ +1, That is very interesting, thanks for the coordinates... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted June 12, 2011 #575 Share Posted June 12, 2011 don't mind the abbrev, bee - it's like 'hold on a sec' - lol - anyways, here's the link - http://news.discovery.com/space/i-wish-there-was-already-a-base-on-mars-110607.html - I go on there quite often but some people get down right nasty at times, which is unfortunate. looks like things will be different on here, so far everyone has been very pleasant. enjoy the link although it's getting a bit stale and there probably aren't many posting to it anymore. thanks.....one thing for sure.....what ever 'Bio Station Alpha' is or isn't the temperature has been raised through the roof re. Mars.... (again) some people believe all they are told about it, officially.... others think there could be more going on there than we are told Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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