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Psyche...what it boils down to...regarding the locking up of the plasma reactor by police, before the Eindhoven event Nov. 26 2011.

Is that I believe Keshe is telling the truth about that...but you don't.

I don't know how we can get passed that.....?

for anyone who is interested but didn't catch it earlier in the thread....

the Eindhoven Presentation 26.11.11

video description...

We'll see what transpires on 21st April for any new developments......

:yes:

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I will put my prediction in now and call another "dog ate my homework" excuse.

Bee, here is his patent to what he calls his Gravitational and energy system LINK

and here is his patent for what he calls a Micro Plasma Reactor. LINK

They are nonsense. The Plasma reactor describes a battery with and unknown magical power supply. That's about it. It is big on talk, and nonexistent on detail. It makes claims that my experience in the electrical field just cannot see happening. Now the Gravitational and energy system is even more nonsensical. This is where the plasma reactor starts to actually look good. It at least offers no way to create the magic Keshe describes (creating electricity from "plasma" in a very small box) with the reactor. It says (and please correct me if I am wrong here) that he puts Hydrogen under centrifugal force and surrounds this hydrogen with noble gasses making instant power somehow. From the link:

The new method and technology is described to create - under centrifugal and vacuum conditions - in presence of ionization condition - a turbulence, rotation, compressive and heating of a gaseous matter is created in a reactor by at least one central rotative magnetic field with the purpose of creating plasmatic conditions leading to the creation various magnetic fields where at least the interaction of two magnetic field would lead to the creation of at least one gravitational force phenomena. In a reactor-embodiment a chain of energetic events is created via a rotative magnetic initiation of a basic ionization of a gas (i.e. hydrogen) which then triggers a controllable chain of energy transfers (Scintillation) to the next following layer(s) of introduced gasses (i.e. He, Ne, Ar, Kr, Xe), of all other introduced elements of the periodic table (i.e. Li, Be, K, Ca, Ti, ... Pt, etc.) and/or their introduced molecule combinations (i.e. a vapor). A central colums has magnetic means to start the process. Various concepts, applications and products are disclosed, such as space travel and atomic welding

There you go, good way to get past it. (Spelling teach!! No apple for you today!) Just explain to me how this process makes sense, and we will be on our way. It is more work than flicking through youtube vids, but its the crux of this conundrum. If Keshe is on the level, what is this nonsense all about? Noble gasses do not excite hydrogen into creating power. Let alone a steady usable form.

Free Energy promise = scam. Nothing is free.

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I wonder what keshe will do next. Most probably he will start his phony institute in order to extort money from the public.

He seems to be doing fine just on promise alone. You know the old saying, if it isn't broken, don't fix it!

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He seems to be doing fine just on promise alone. You know the old saying, if it isn't broken, don't fix it!

I have a feeling he will follow the example of people like Paul Pantone by setting up an institute with some phony reactors and some phony licensees. the free energy field is filled with so many freaks but still I am attracted to it. i still hope someone will come up with a viable free energy and antigravity device. Hope against hope. But I cant help admiring guys like Keshe, Pantone and others. It takes some brains to keep people interested in them even if they dont deliver on promises . I mean they manage to write huge patents even if they are filled with nonsense and succeed in getting money from people. I cant do that. I dont have the brains for that. It is a skill. These men are obviously very intelligent. I cant even think of how to do it. But these guys do. And they convince some people.

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Just explain to me how this process makes sense, and we will be on our way.

I personally don't have the knowledge to do that...sorry.

But after decades of research and experiments Keshe obviously has or he wouldn't have the patents.

Hopefully more detail, to satisfy you, will be made public soon.

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I personally don't have the knowledge to do that...sorry.

But after decades of research and experiments Keshe obviously has or he wouldn't have the patents.

Hopefully more detail, to satisfy you, will be made public soon.

Is this guy even going to bee around Dec,12 2012 ? You know what they are saying ? Its all in the way that one looks into there crystal balls.

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Even a granted patent merely confirms an innovative idea, not that the idea represents viable/workable technology. In this case the patents are only published, not granted.

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Even a granted patent merely confirms an innovative idea, not that the idea represents viable/workable technology. In this case the patents are only published, not granted.

I take your point...but why apply for a patent, with the expense and work involved if you didn't have faith in it?

It shows someone is serious to open up their invention for minute scrutiny for a patent.

Some people on the thread are judging Keshe but it seems that he is working through a process of releasing his

technology...and we're in the middle of that process, not the end. So who knows where it could lead.

Perhaps Mehran Keshe will arrive at the 21st April event in a little flying saucer...that would be good... :lol:

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I take your point...but why apply for a patent, with the expense and work involved if you didn't have faith in it?

It shows someone is serious to open up their invention for minute scrutiny for a patent.

Some people on the thread are judging Keshe but it seems that he is working through a process of releasing his

technology...and we're in the middle of that process, not the end. So who knows where it could lead.

Perhaps Mehran Keshe will arrive at the 21st April event in a little flying saucer...that would be good... :lol:

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There are patent kits out there that make patenting inexpensive and easy. Patenting something gives it an air of authenticity even if it doesn't exist. If you look at Keshe's patents, they give no real details so there is nothing to steal.

Keshe's track record of something preventing the display of his technology while he continues to rake in the money on tours and conferences leaves a bad taste in peoples mouths.

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There are patent kits out there that make patenting inexpensive and easy. Patenting something gives it an air of authenticity even if it doesn't exist. If you look at Keshe's patents, they give no real details so there is nothing to steal.

Keshe's track record of something preventing the display of his technology while he continues to rake in the money on tours and conferences leaves a bad taste in peoples mouths.

why so cynical?

oh look...the scoundrel intends to GIVE AWAY his technology for FREE..... :P

http://www.keshefoundation.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2433

We gave our knowledge in space program free of charge and as a gift to Iranian scientists.

Thus this will be the same for the rest.

We do not and shall not sell our technology to the officials, governments and space agencies whom attend the meeting, but the technology will be given as a gift to them as part of our belief in the mans equality in knowledge share.

This time around there will be no one nation in space, but all together and in one move.

How each entity commercialises their part of new knowledge from us to increase their research then this will be in the hand of each government and organisation.

Our space technology will be a gift to your nations and not a sale.

We have asked for public to be there that this time the technology will not be shelved, but in open to be used for the good of all men, irrespective of nations and religions.

We will invite ISA, NASA as ESA and this time we will work in one direction and not whom will be the super-power.

Today is the first day of the spring and a new beginning for mankind and this will the way we have set our goal.

New beginning, New ethos and new Science for this era.

In this meeting African nations will have the same opportunity in developing their space program as Iran, USA and Russia will have. Whom does not attend will be their lose and shame on their arrogance.

As I said in my recent talks in Holland, Can you pay dollars or gold to beings in space, whom we will encounter soon.

Monitory values of the man will be gift of man for the earth living and in space we will work and support each other as one planet and no payment.

There are no Mc Donald’s and no bread shops to buy food from in space.

The Keshe Foundation has done all its work to take the man into space independent of the earth resources and now we are ready to share the whole knowledge with the whole of mankind.

No patent no peer-review control, all our knowledge is for all nations and all men.

Welcome the true world of the humanity and the ethos of the Keshe Foundation of once of mankind.

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Well time will tell !

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I take your point...but why apply for a patent, with the expense and work involved if you didn't have faith in it?

You might not have faith in it, but for all intents and purposes if you can claims you have a number of patents (no matter how ridiculous) you can bolster your case.

It shows someone is serious to open up their invention for minute scrutiny for a patent.

No, in fact it does not. You can submit some pretty silly patents that has no substance to them, but only encompasses a principle.

Some people on the thread are judging Keshe but it seems that he is working through a process of releasing his

technology...and we're in the middle of that process, not the end. So who knows where it could lead.

To me, no. It does not at all seem that way to be honest. If he was a true researcher releasing his technology we would have seen a lot more by now. Something substantial.

Perhaps Mehran Keshe will arrive at the 21st April event in a little flying saucer...that would be good... :lol:

Now that would indeed be great, but somehow I am not holding my breath :P

Cheers,

Badeskov

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why so cynical?

oh look...the scoundrel intends to GIVE AWAY his technology for FREE..... :P

You mean give away like their generators they are giving away for 5000 euros plus 100 euros a year for maintenance and the right to use it.

http://www.keshefoundation.com/pdfs/Application%20and%20reservation%20form%20generator.pdf

Funny, every place else that sells generators don't require a yearly fee just so you can use something you bought outright.

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I have a feeling he will follow the example of people like Paul Pantone by setting up an institute with some phony reactors and some phony licensees. the free energy field is filled with so many freaks but still I am attracted to it. i still hope someone will come up with a viable free energy and antigravity device. Hope against hope. But I cant help admiring guys like Keshe, Pantone and others. It takes some brains to keep people interested in them even if they dont deliver on promises . I mean they manage to write huge patents even if they are filled with nonsense and succeed in getting money from people. I cant do that. I dont have the brains for that. It is a skill. These men are obviously very intelligent. I cant even think of how to do it. But these guys do. And they convince some people.

I think you might be shocked to find just how many people are working on perpetual motions machines and free energy devices in their backyards. And this is where if the concept is possible that I think it might surface. This enigma is one that eludes science and to date and in general many discoveries do not come with the great cry of Eureka! But more often a quiet "that's odd".

It is admirable that so many refuse to give up and I share in your hope. But it is this hope that keeps people like Rossi and Keshe from ever having to do an honest days work. I detest that.

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I personally don't have the knowledge to do that...sorry.

I gave you the links, and it is not rocket science, electrical principals are not difficult to grasp, and lets just say that I have the faith in you to realise that from what you have posted in the past, I do not think this is beyond you at all.

The patents are there, the process is described. It's nonsense.

But after decades of research and experiments Keshe obviously has or he wouldn't have the patents.

Decades of research into what exactly is what I am wondering. He seems more adept at manipulating the human psyche than he is at making electricity.

And if I place up a patent that specifically states that Vegemite mixed with Marmite will produce anti matter, would you take me to be some sort of genius? You do not have to be one to place a patent.

Sometime, when you have some time, look up patent number 3,216,423

Hopefully more detail, to satisfy you, will be made public soon.

The detail is in the patent, it does not matter how much you compress hydrogen, and it matters not what inert gases surround the compressed hydrogen. That makes as much sense as my Vegemite/Marmite Anti Matter fuel. How do you expect him to expand on what he has described? It even has a diagram!

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Didnt Keshe have a report due out on April 1st ?

Now were getting to his game plan !

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I take your point...but why apply for a patent, with the expense and work involved if you didn't have faith in it?

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Bee, this is a registered patent. and not the one I already mentioned. No joke. LINK Patent number: 6293874

XQ3vK.jpg

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Didnt Keshe have a report due out on April 1st ?

Now were getting to his game plan !

He did, but his dog took advantage of the date and played a joke on him and ate it.

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why so cynical?

oh look...the scoundrel intends to GIVE AWAY his technology for FREE..... :P

http://www.keshefoundation.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2433

Did you not notice the very first line you quoted?

We gave our knowledge in space program free of charge and as a gift to Iranian scientists.

Gave - past tense. And we all know how Iran is leading the space race don't we :rolleyes:

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Bee, this is a registered patent. and not the one I already mentioned. No joke. LINK Patent number: 6293874

XQ3vK.jpg

Mjaaah.... rolleyes.gif

:P

Cheers,

Badeskov

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Mjaaah.... rolleyes.gif

:P

Cheers,

Badeskov

:w00t:

Mate that page is nothing short of awesome. I am going to have to track down this Grahame Norton show, but the pun of the month has to go to

Cross USB Drive

Because Jesus saves

That just cracked me up! Funniest thing I have read all day :D

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:w00t:

Mate that page is nothing short of awesome. I am going to have to track down this Grahame Norton show, but the pun of the month has to go to

Cross USB Drive

Because Jesus saves

That just cracked me up! Funniest thing I have read all day :D

Pretty amazing what can be patented, eh mate? :P

Cheers,

Badeskov

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why so cynical?

oh look...the scoundrel intends to GIVE AWAY his technology for FREE..... :P

http://www.keshefoundation.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2433

Talk is cheap. Let him do as he promised first. he promises to give his technology for free. First let him do so. Then we can talk. Let him open source his technology and release details of the plans to build the device for free. Then we can say he is honest. Until then he is just another scam as long as he demands money.

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Bee, this is a registered patent. and not the one I already mentioned. No joke. LINK Patent number: 6293874

XQ3vK.jpg

thanks psyche....now I know what I'm getting you for Christmas.... :rofl:

and you Bade, will be getting the Lap Dancer Liner..... :yes:

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thanks psyche....now I know what I'm getting you for Christmas.... :rofl:

:P

and you Bade, will be getting the Lap Dancer Liner..... :yes:

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ohmy.gif

:P

Cheers,

Badeskov

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thanks psyche....now I know what I'm getting you for Christmas.... :rofl:

and you Bade, will be getting the Lap Dancer Liner..... :yes:

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Well I am disappointed. I wanted the USB Cross because Jesus saves.

Heck if he backs up his data, we all should!

I take it that I got the point across? ;) Did you look up that other patent by any chance? I was interested to know what you thought of that too.

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