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Iran is Building Flying Saucers.

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Mehran Tavakoli Keshe is a nuclear engineer involved with plasma reactors which are designed in analogy with cosmology. He postulates that the known inner core of Earth encapsulates a smaller hollow space of about 8 km diameter. This small center is filled with hydrogen, helium and other elements, and its acts like a semi-nuclear reactor. This reactor generates a proper magnetic field. This first magnetic field is superimposed by the second magnetic field which is created by convection.

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Thanks, bee, I haven't laughed so hard since... um... yesterday. You made my day.

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*Octopal facepalm*

Seriously?! Someone takes FARS news, creates bogus picture of saucer, and thats the proof of conspiracy?! Cmon, bee, you can do better.

Hey BMK, careful with those facepalms.....remember last time what happened ....we had you by the balls as you so nicely put it :)

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Hey BMK, careful with those facepalms.....remember last time what happened ....we had you by the balls as you so nicely put it :)

Won't happen this time :P

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*Octopal facepalm*

Seriously?! Someone takes FARS news, creates bogus picture of saucer, and thats the proof of conspiracy?! Cmon, bee, you can do better.

really... :) ...I think I demolished your 'case' quite nicely... :P

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Thanks, bee, I haven't laughed so hard since... um... yesterday. You made my day.

I'm happy for you.......laughter is GOOD.....perhaps your laughter was tinged with

a touch of hysteria, though....bit like how this guy laughs near the end... :lol:;)

boo boo boo boo boo boooooooooooooooooooo

ya

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Won't happen this time :P

I hope not for your sake....but you never know what someone has up their sleeve...... ;)

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really... :) ...I think I demolished your 'case' quite nicely... :P

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Amazing... We must live in different universes where english words have different meanings...

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I'm happy for you.......laughter is GOOD.....perhaps your laughter was tinged with

a touch of hysteria, though....bit like how this guy laughs near the end... :lol:;)

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boo boo boo boo boo boooooooooooooooooooo

ya

:tu:

:tu:

Reminded me of chi teacher from P&T:BS!

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Woah fun thread!!!

Thanks bee! Although, I'm always frustrated when the thread is all about some video since I can't watch them while at work!

Hey bee - have you bought any of the books from www.ufohowto.com?

I suggest you might really get into them.

(I've got one of them so far and plan to get the rest soon.)

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BMK, are you going to offer up any substance to add to this thread? Your little routine is wearing quite thin.

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If you are travelling along a lonely road through desolate, eerie moorland at 3am and then, at the side of the road, you see a huge disc-shaped object, brightly-lit with windows all around its edge and, through the windows, you see strange, shrouded beings which appear to be wearing burkhas then you know that it's not extraterrestrial but Iranian.

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Woah fun thread!!!

Thanks bee! Although, I'm always frustrated when the thread is all about some video since I can't watch them while at work!

:tu:

this is another interview with Mehran Keshe.... from Red Ice Radio, perhaps you will do

better with that?

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2011/06/RIR-110609.php

the description....

Mehran Keshe - Iran's Flying Saucer & Plasma Reactor Technology

June 9, 2011

Mehran Keshe, originally from Iran, joins us from Belgium to discuss his development of plasma reactor technology and Iran's flying saucer. The technology Mehran has developed has multiple applications, such as space flight, anti-gravity, energy-generating and medical. He is the author of "The Universal Order of Creation of Matters" and "The Structure of the Light". He formed the "International Space Institute" with the assertion that commercial space flight will be made available to the general public in the near future. This includes a "Moon trip program", currently scheduled for 2016-2017 and eventually travels to Mars. Iran as the first government in the world has showed interest in Mehran's technology and we discuss the initiation and current status of Iran's flying saucer project. In 2005 Keshe filed two patents with the European Patent Office for a "Micro plasma reactor" and a "Gravitational and energy system". Mehran Keshe was born In Iran in 1958, he is the son to an X-ray engineer, he moved to Europe in the mid-seventies for further education in the field of nuclear physics. In 81 he graduated from Queen Mary College, University of London, as a nuclear engineer specialized in reactor technology system control. Since 2002 he has concentrated his effort to finish the full design of his technology for launch into the scientific world and industry. He also claims that at the end of 2005 and beginning of 2006 several static plasma reactors have been built. Since the beginning of 2006 several prototypes of dynamic reactors have been built, some specifically designed to create hovering effects. Topics discussed: magnetic fields, Plasma, the beginning of the technology development, radiation, plasma magnetic field, weapon technology, Iran's flying saucer and more.

and here is the same interview on YouTube.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7ErFmFPDrU

Hey bee - have you bought any of the books from www.ufohowto.com?

I suggest you might really get into them.

(I've got one of them so far and plan to get the rest soon.)

no I haven't...cheers...will take a look.

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Posted (edited)

:tu:

this is another interview with Mehran Keshe.... from Red Ice Radio, perhaps you will do

better with that?

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2011/06/RIR-110609.php

no I haven't...cheers...will take a look.

Thanks bee, the 'video' is playing - that is to say, I can hear an interview and see a still picture.

Thanks!

Listening to it now.

RE: ufohowto.com when you get some of his books of patents, see if you can show them to any engineers, mechanics or electricians you know and ask them if any of the designs in the books are viable.

I just heard Mehran saying he doesn't ever follow anyone except himself (with regard to his work) - I thought that was really odd and even a bit arrogant. Surely people like Tesla gave him ideas?!

Did he just say 'Magnets never wear out'??

As far as I know magnets very much do lose their strength over time!

Anywhoo - all I can say is that while I hope he, and anyone like him, is for real I won't be holding my breath....

Wouldn't that be nice?

Woah, did he just say it is beyond theoretical and they already have prototypes?!

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Um, i listened to the interview in the OP's first post. Its very interesting but i dont get this guy at all. He's a half scientist half business man with multiple companies? I dont recall him mentioning names of his companies?

Also where are his patents? Why isnt his research posted in scientific journals instead of his 'forum'.

Ok sure he says he got funding from a university and the government. Is there anyway to see this applications for funds? Im sure they would be open to the public, especially the government one using tax payers money.

I havent read everything about this and im sure there is alot im missing here, but from what i have read, he is full of ****.

Sorry if i seem so blunt but i think if this guy was so genuine he would be hitting as many channels as possible with this and not just the little know UFO youtube channels. :S

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He's dodging answering questions - the intervier asked him if he'd show video of his test flights and he started rambling on about NASA! ???

WTF?

Is he saying that plasma has magnetic fields within it?

He just said NASA rejected his new alternet propulsion system because all their rocket specialists would be out of jobs.... :blink:

WTF ?!!?!!?

Sorry, but he's sounding more and more like a fruitloop the more I listen!

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He's dodging answering questions - the intervier asked him if he'd show video of his test flights and he started rambling on about NASA! ???

WTF?

Is he saying that plasma has magnetic fields within it?

He just said NASA rejected his new alternet propulsion system because all their rocket specialists would be out of jobs.... :blink:

WTF ?!!?!!?

Off topic: ( i love how that senator running for president in the USA ripped into Nasa in that debate).

Yea i think its BS. If he really did, there would be word and panic spreading amongst the many contractors with NASA regarding jobs, nothing has appeared in that respect (and please no one shout conspiracy or keeping quiet, lets be realistic :P.

Also, i think if this were true he would be shouting as loud as he could to reach as many people as possible to say look i have this new amazing technology and NASA didnt want it. But he didnt.

And did he mention about using his new technology for Africa? Asia? Two continents with alot of poverty which could benifit greatly from his technology, something hundreds maybe thousands of scientists and engineers are trying to do? No, he just made something to sell in Europe and America. (talking about the generator btw)

It is possible i miss heard a few things because i was being nagged while listening to the interview, so if im wrong about something i said please let me know :)

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He just said NASA rejected his new alternet propulsion system because all their rocket specialists would be out of jobs.... :blink:

WTF ?!!?!!?

I can actually quite believe that....imagine how much of the world's economy is reliant on all the old

established ways/science/physics.

Sorry, but he's sounding more and more like a fruitloop the more I listen!

to be thought of in this way...such is the fate of anyone sticking their head above the parapet

and questioning the orthodox ways of doing things and presenting new ideas to the world

history is littered with them

I like this quote...

“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”

Mahatma Gandhi quotes (Indian Philosopher, internationally esteemed for his doctrine of nonviolent protest, 1869-1948)

http://thinkexist.com/quotation/first_they_ignore_you-then_they_laugh_at_you-then/214891.html

^_^

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Yea i think its BS. If he really did, there would be word and panic spreading amongst the many contractors with NASA regarding jobs, nothing has appeared in that respect (and please no one shout conspiracy or keeping quiet, lets be realistic :P.

Also, i think if this were true he would be shouting as loud as he could to reach as many people as possible to say look i have this new amazing technology and NASA didnt want it. But he didnt.

<SNIP>

Wow, he just said he'd have Mars colonised with his technology by 2020!

I'm amazed he has such big balls!

(to say all this)

On the flip-side - I think such exotic propulsion and shield systems are possible and may even be in the process of being covered up, but I just don't think he's the one with the goods!

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I like this one:

"We can send a rocket to Venus, but our fridges don't work"

~ Mikhail Gorbachev.

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On the flip-side - I think such exotic propulsion and shield systems are possible and may even be in the process of being covered up, but I just don't think he's the one with the goods!

Yea, Michio Kaku delves into this alot actually, his books are documentaries are really interesting. New technologies and scifi type propulsions are starting to become more and more scientifically theoretical and on the small scale in developement right now (for example, transporter, invisibility cloak etc). Not in the huge scale as we see in star trek but getting there. This kind of stuff isnt being kept secret either.

So i dont believe if this guy did make something that they would hide it, he already has plenty of 'access' to the web and new sources, as i said before he would have made a loud noise by now.

Also i cant believe he is wealthy where he has so many companies like he said and has such a **** website. Im sorry but there is nothing professional about it.

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Um, i listened to the interview in the OP's first post. Its very interesting but i dont get this guy at all. He's a half scientist half business man with multiple companies? I dont recall him mentioning names of his companies?

This is about the Keshe Foundation

http://www.keshefoundation.com/home.html

Also where are his patents? Why isnt his research posted in scientific journals instead of his 'forum'.

http://www.keshefoundation.com/about_keshe.html

*Since 2002 he has concentrated his effort to finish the full design of his technology for launch into the scientific world and industry.

*He was invited by one of leading western country’s, through its government office organizations in September of 2004 for evaluation of his technology.

*His technology was considered by scientists at University level from November of 2004 until March 2005.

*In March 2005, the report from the university has identified that energy production through this new technology is feasible.

*Since release of this report efforts were made through authorities to facilitate the development of this system in the host country.

*In April 2005 a highly reputable developing company partner was found for the study of the practicality of developing this system, through the government organizations.

*As of April 2005 there has been a close collaboration between Mr. Keshe and the development company for a full practical study of the first prototype.

*It is accepted between both parties, and the development company is satisfied that the system is practical and workable to produce as was reported in the feasibility study by the university scientists.

*As of the 17.8.2005 the systems’ preliminary evaluation is complete and the parties have agreed that they are ready to proceed with the physical production of the first “Gravitational and Energy system”.

*Three patents for technology have been applied for since early October of 2005 for all aspects of it possible use, covering some hundreds of applications.

Additional international patents have been applied for.

*At the end of 2005 and the beginning of 2006 several static plasma reactors were built, which proved the theoretical insights stated before. These static reactors work at room temperature and at normal atmospheric pressure. They provide voltage and current. Deposits of pure carbon layers are generated, and Raman spectroscopy has confirmed that these are wall-graphite, also called graphene.

*Since the beginning of 2006 several prototypes of dynamic reactors are built, some specifically designed to create hovering effects. Such hovering effect have been achieved. Six reactors are under test and continues evaluation.

The intellectual properties related to this technology has been transferred in 2006 to The Keshe Foundation, a "Stichting" in The Netherlands. The main objective of this Foundation is the repartition of licensing fees to over five different area's related to mankind welfare and world education.

*October 2006. A contract is signed with a major governmental organization in Europe to replicate independently the tests with static reactors.

Tests of medical use of plasma reactors, in cooperation with doctors.

*Begin of 2007: Filing of two patent applications under Patent Cooperation Treaty

Publication by the European Patent Office of two patent applications

July 2007. Filing of a European patent application for medical and food applications of plasma reactors.

2010. Publishing of a paper about the direct capturing of CO2 and CH4 from the surrounding air, where the CO2 and CH4 is in a liquid state at room temperature and room pressure. Download the paper. The CO2 and CH4 were proven by IR and XRD spectroscopy performed by a Belgian University.

as you can see....Mehran Keshe is and has been for many years...a very busy man.

the brilliant thing for me...is that he is talking about this technology openly.

if only others had done the same in the past...I know that 'National Security'

is the cover all for the 'cover-up'....but....now see the pickle they are in.

Like I have said this is all a political minefield. If Keshe can pull this off without

hindrance then this will be quite spectacular. How much we will hear about it in

Western MSM, though....remains to be seen.

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now he's saying we'll be able to go many times faster than the speed of light....

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This is about the Keshe Foundation

as you can see....Mehran Keshe is and has been for many years...a very busy man.

the brilliant thing for me...is that he is talking about this technology openly.

if only others had done the same in the past...I know that 'National Security'

is the cover all for the 'cover-up'....but....now see the pickle they are in.

Like I have said this is all a political minefield. If Keshe can pull this off without

hindrance then this will be quite spectacular. How much we will hear about it in

Western MSM, though....remains to be seen.

keep up the good work Bee. :tu:

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now he's saying we'll be able to go many times faster than the speed of light....

I believe him...in fact...I think 'we' already have.....

glad you are getting into the interview Paxus...... :tu:

(even if you don't think the same as me about it).....

and Jotar...thanks for your interest.... :)

@quillius....cheers.....

gotta love you and leave you now.....got a car journey to do and a tent to put up...... :st

will catch up with thread when I get back

:cat:

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as you can see....Mehran Keshe is and has been for many years...a very busy man.

the brilliant thing for me...is that he is talking about this technology openly.

if only others had done the same in the past...I know that 'National Security'

is the cover all for the 'cover-up'....but....now see the pickle they are in.

Like I have said this is all a political minefield. If Keshe can pull this off without

hindrance then this will be quite spectacular. How much we will hear about it in

Western MSM, though....remains to be seen.

I read the quotes from the site you posted and they are all vague nonsense.

*Since 2002 he has concentrated his effort to finish the full design of his technology for launch into the scientific world and industry.

Where is it now?

*He was invited by one of leading western country’s, through its government office organizations in September of 2004 for evaluation of his technology.

What country?

*His technology was considered by scientists at University level from November of 2004 until March 2005.

What scientists? University level? Not the professors i hope? Definately not the students i hope. What university? I was hoping the 'scientists' would be the kind who would have gone beyond university level and had some experience.

*In March 2005, the report from the university has identified that energy production through this new technology is feasible.

Just feasible? What university said this? Is do they think its remarkable? Efficient? Feasible seems so unjust a word for such a 'marvelous' tech.

*Since release of this report efforts were made through authorities to facilitate the development of this system in the host country.

What reports? Where are the applications for the authorities to fund and facilitate this? What is their application numbers? Tax numbers?

*In April 2005 a highly reputable developing company partner was found for the study of the practicality of developing this system, through the government organizations.

What company? Dont you see if this was real then all companies would be naming themselves to get in on the remarkable fortune this will bring. This is too vague.

*As of April 2005 there has been a close collaboration between Mr. Keshe and the development company for a full practical study of the first prototype.

Again what company? OMG anyone can say this, it doesnt make it true, there is no fact here.

*It is accepted between both parties, and the development company is satisfied that the system is practical and workable to produce as was reported in the feasibility study by the university scientists.

*As of the 17.8.2005 the systems’ preliminary evaluation is complete and the parties have agreed that they are ready to proceed with the physical production of the first “Gravitational and Energy system”.

And again?

*Three patents for technology have been applied for since early October of 2005 for all aspects of it possible use, covering some hundreds of applications.

Additional international patents have been applied for.

Where are the patent numbers which people usually post when they are saying they have patented something.

*At the end of 2005 and the beginning of 2006 several static plasma reactors were built, which proved the theoretical insights stated before. These static reactors work at room temperature and at normal atmospheric pressure. They provide voltage and current. Deposits of pure carbon layers are generated, and Raman spectroscopy has confirmed that these are wall-graphite, also called graphene.

Where is the reports on this, where was this posted? Which scientific journals was this sent to? Where are the images? Videos? Data?

*Since the beginning of 2006 several prototypes of dynamic reactors are built, some specifically designed to create hovering effects. Such hovering effect have been achieved. Six reactors are under test and continues evaluation.

The intellectual properties related to this technology has been transferred in 2006 to The Keshe Foundation, a "Stichting" in The Netherlands. The main objective of this Foundation is the repartition of licensing fees to over five different area's related to mankind welfare and world education.

Lets see it then?

*October 2006. A contract is signed with a major governmental organization in Europe to replicate independently the tests with static reactors.

Tests of medical use of plasma reactors, in cooperation with doctors.

What government organisation? What doctors? Whats their speciality?

*Begin of 2007: Filing of two patent applications under Patent Cooperation Treaty

Publication by the European Patent Office of two patent applications

July 2007. Filing of a European patent application for medical and food applications of plasma reactors.

2010. Publishing of a paper about the direct capturing of CO2 and CH4 from the surrounding air, where the CO2 and CH4 is in a liquid state at room temperature and room pressure. Download the paper. The CO2 and CH4 were proven by IR and XRD spectroscopy performed by a Belgian University.

Where are the patent numbers? What country was the patent applied for?

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I wish I could believe it, I really really do.

I want to build my own space ship and go exploring!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I believe him...in fact...I think 'we' already have.....

glad you are getting into the interview Paxus...... :tu:

(even if you don't think the same as me about it).....

and Jotar...thanks for your interest.... :)

@quillius....cheers.....

gotta love you and leave you now.....got a car journey to do and a tent to put up...... :st

will catch up with thread when I get back

:cat:

Sure thing, thanks for the interesting topic, it really is great, im just a nut for details. I feel the same for global warming and other things, people believe it as such fact and yet there is no evidence, but thats a different topic all together.

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