Shay255 Posted September 12, 2011 Author #26 Share Posted September 12, 2011 The large black size and yellow teeth are a direct match with the Michigan Dogman accounts!! thats true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shay255 Posted September 12, 2011 Author #27 Share Posted September 12, 2011 When was the last time a wolf was spotted in New York state? Wiki says that there are coyotes, but no wolves. I suspect since both stories happen in the same place, (Right?) that this is one dog, seen twice, years apart. Probably a neighbors dog, that has claimed that property as his. Dogs will defend what they think is theirs. I don't think there is enough in the stories to say this is werewolves, or anything supernatural. It happened in 2 places not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatureBoff Posted September 12, 2011 #28 Share Posted September 12, 2011 (edited) thats true The yellow eyes are only a feature that I've heard connected with the Michigan area, at least in the last few years that I remember. Is the location somewhere near? Is there a connection there do you think? Could the yellow eyes be a local phenomenon of a U.S. wide clever cryptid?Edit: Okay, you said "Niskayuna ny" for the first sighting, which did have yellow eyes as well as yellow teeth, I take it? That's not too far from Michigan for the local yellow eye color to have travelled. Thanks for sharing your story Edited September 12, 2011 by tailormaneinafog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rat Girl Posted September 12, 2011 #29 Share Posted September 12, 2011 (edited) When was the last time a wolf was spotted in New York state? Its not beyond the realms of possibility. Its certainly more likely than it being a werewolf! There are zoos, probably even private owners (I know someone who used to have a 'pet' wolf) but it is more likely that it was a big wolfy looking dog. But still, even a real wolf is more likely than a werewolf or a dog-man Also, yellow teeth? Means nothing, not anything supernatural. I used to work in vet nursing, I saw a fair few dogs with yellow teeth, even some with brown Edited September 12, 2011 by Rat Girl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shay255 Posted September 12, 2011 Author #30 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Its not beyond the realms of possibility. Its certainly more likely than it being a werewolf! There are zoos, probably even private owners (I know someone who used to have a 'pet' wolf) but it is more likely that it was a big wolfy looking dog. But still, even a real wolf is more likely than a werewolf or a dog-man Also, yellow teeth? Means nothing, not anything supernatural. I used to work in vet nursing, I saw a fair few dogs with yellow teeth, even some with brown It had yellow eyes white teeth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shay255 Posted September 12, 2011 Author #31 Share Posted September 12, 2011 The yellow eyes are only a feature that I've heard connected with the Michigan area, at least in the last few years that I remember. Is the location somewhere near? Is there a connection there do you think? Could the yellow eyes be a local phenomenon of a U.S. wide clever cryptid? Edit: Okay, you said "Niskayuna ny" for the first sighting, which did have yellow eyes as well as yellow teeth, I take it? That's not too far from Michigan for the local yellow eye color to have travelled. Thanks for sharing your story It was in Schenectady newyork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shay255 Posted September 12, 2011 Author #32 Share Posted September 12, 2011 It was in Schenectady newyork Niskayuna is a area of schenectady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+HerNibs Posted September 12, 2011 #33 Share Posted September 12, 2011 German Shepherd - Common everywhere. Nibs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakari Posted September 12, 2011 #34 Share Posted September 12, 2011 (edited) Edit : Not a constructive reply on my part......Self deleted. Edited September 12, 2011 by Sakari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted September 12, 2011 #35 Share Posted September 12, 2011 (edited) German Shepherd - Common everywhere. Nibs This German Shephard has yellow eyes.... And probably white teeth... Edited September 12, 2011 by DieChecker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~TheBigK~ Posted September 13, 2011 #36 Share Posted September 13, 2011 (edited) The yellow eyes are only a feature that I've heard connected with the Michigan area, at least in the last few years that I remember. Is the location somewhere near? Is there a connection there do you think? Could the yellow eyes be a local phenomenon of a U.S. wide clever cryptid? Edit: Okay, you said "Niskayuna ny" for the first sighting, which did have yellow eyes as well as yellow teeth, I take it? That's not too far from Michigan for the local yellow eye color to have travelled. Thanks for sharing your story There are dogs with yellow eyes, and I've seen several wolf/dog mixes and they had them as well. When I was a kid a friend who lived down the road from me had a gorgeous wolf/dog mix that was completely black with very bright yellow eyes. So there's nothing supernatural about any of those features. Edited September 13, 2011 by ~TheBigK~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shay255 Posted September 13, 2011 Author #37 Share Posted September 13, 2011 This German Shephard has yellow eyes.... And probably white teeth... It was all black tho solid black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shay255 Posted September 13, 2011 Author #38 Share Posted September 13, 2011 German Shepherd - Common everywhere. Nibs It was all black tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatureBoff Posted September 13, 2011 #39 Share Posted September 13, 2011 You won't get an ounce of sympathy here Shay. They'll never give in to anything other than "it must have been a dog, because otherwise science would have found another species by now" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rat Girl Posted September 13, 2011 #40 Share Posted September 13, 2011 You won't get an ounce of sympathy here Shay. They'll never give in to anything other than "it must have been a dog, because otherwise science would have found another species by now" Nooo....it must have been a dog because there is nothing in the description to suggest otherwise. Thats really all it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~TheBigK~ Posted September 13, 2011 #41 Share Posted September 13, 2011 It was all black tho solid black So? It could have been wolf-dog mix as I mentioned in the post right above yours. There was one right down the road from me that looked exactly like what you mentioned. It wasn't the nicest fella either. But it was still a pet and all it was, was a mix breed. And wolves can be black too: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakari Posted September 13, 2011 #42 Share Posted September 13, 2011 You won't get an ounce of sympathy here Shay. They'll never give in to anything other than "it must have been a dog, because otherwise science would have found another species by now" Occam's Razor one should not increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted September 14, 2011 #43 Share Posted September 14, 2011 (edited) Let me apply a dose of reality to your post: Stupidity won't get an ounce of sympathy here Shay. They'll never give in to anything other than verifiable evidence And then I'll give you a definition - evidence is something that cannot be debunked by a more viable factor. It's big. And black. And looks like a wolf. It's a big black wolf. Not saying you're stupid Shay, the opposite in fact, your recollections are vivid and it's clear your memory is good and your mind open. But people pushing stupid ideas, crass and poorly thought though grind the gears of a lot of people here. Edited September 14, 2011 by Wearer of Hats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted September 14, 2011 #44 Share Posted September 14, 2011 So? It could have been wolf-dog mix as I mentioned in the post right above yours. There was one right down the road from me that looked exactly like what you mentioned. It wasn't the nicest fella either. But it was still a pet and all it was, was a mix breed. And wolves can be black too: That fur is really nice on that wolf, must be good for hunting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatureBoff Posted September 14, 2011 #45 Share Posted September 14, 2011 That fur is really nice on that wolf, must be good for hunting. Yeah, lovely animal. Great shot as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shay255 Posted September 28, 2011 Author #46 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Yeah, lovely animal. Great shot as well The thing is it was no dog and the wolf was alone. I have been to my aunts old house plenty of times. I never saw the thing again. Same goes for the 2nd sighting. Maybe it is just me. I just feel like it is not a dog. I mean if it was a wolf population then I would see wolfs all around the area. So I don't know what it is. My guess werewolf but I could be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsaDollThang Posted September 28, 2011 #47 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Actually it could have been a wild dog. There's a healthy population of wild dogs in most of NY actually and there are a lot of big furry Alaskan type dogs out there that are descended from wolf stock. If I saw a big, stray black dog with huskie traits I might think it was a wolf. There are some pretty big dog breeds out there. At one point when I lived in NYC there was a feral pack roaming Central Park and there were several reports of a "wolf" that went around. Turned out to be a husky type dog that for some reason was bigger than average. They eventually caught most of them, but even now there is a small feral population of dogs there. It's a convenient place for some people to dump unwanted pets, and dogs that grow too big for apartments they get dumped a lot. The shelters, they sometimes charge and arm and a leg to take a dog. People can't always afford it so they dump their pets on the side of the road. Then again what you saw might have just been a wolf. Most of NY state used to be packed with wolves a few hundred years back and people still breed half wolf dogs. Supposedly full wolves they're not there any longer, but I think some wolves are smarter than the people who want to catch and tag them and that there may be a few still left here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryouk Posted September 28, 2011 #48 Share Posted September 28, 2011 So? It could have been wolf-dog mix as I mentioned in the post right above yours. There was one right down the road from me that looked exactly like what you mentioned. It wasn't the nicest fella either. But it was still a pet and all it was, was a mix breed. And wolves can be black too: Really nice wolf there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shay255 Posted September 28, 2011 Author #49 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Actually it could have been a wild dog. There's a healthy population of wild dogs in most of NY actually and there are a lot of big furry Alaskan type dogs out there that are descended from wolf stock. If I saw a big, stray black dog with huskie traits I might think it was a wolf. There are some pretty big dog breeds out there. At one point when I lived in NYC there was a feral pack roaming Central Park and there were several reports of a "wolf" that went around. Turned out to be a husky type dog that for some reason was bigger than average. They eventually caught most of them, but even now there is a small feral population of dogs there. It's a convenient place for some people to dump unwanted pets, and dogs that grow too big for apartments they get dumped a lot. The shelters, they sometimes charge and arm and a leg to take a dog. People can't always afford it so they dump their pets on the side of the road. Then again what you saw might have just been a wolf. Most of NY state used to be packed with wolves a few hundred years back and people still breed half wolf dogs. Supposedly full wolves they're not there any longer, but I think some wolves are smarter than the people who want to catch and tag them and that there may be a few still left here and there. Do you think that maybe it was a strange canine out of the ordinary I mean yea maybe just a wolf but if it was a wolf or some kind of dog then there would be a population of them in the area. I have been around my aunts house for a long time and never saw the thing again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendille Posted September 28, 2011 #50 Share Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) have you actively looked for them though? By this I mean, I have lived in Alaska for nearly 10 years now. It is a state known for its wildlife Wolves, bears, lynx, moose, and etc. The only animals I have seen without being in the deep woods are moose this is because like deer everywhere they are desensitized to man. I have never seen a wolf a bear or a lynx in a populated area but this does not mean that they are not here. Edited September 28, 2011 by grendille Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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