seventh_son Posted September 4, 2004 #26 Share Posted September 4, 2004 This is a result of the "bounce" Will the real winner please resign!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunarmdscissor Posted September 5, 2004 #27 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Disinterested, fluffy and the rest...... Dont you get it, National debt meh......... Unemploymnent meh........ Healthcare meh........... Taxes meh............ Infrastucture meh........ world opinion meh...... Social welfare meh............. economy meh........... Dont you know these issues are all unimportant when deciding a leader. God you people are soooooooooooooooo dumb , i can tell by your names, We are at war with peoples from country's that i cant pronounce. I would tell you who but unfortuantly mr bush is still in class, but im telling you this is all that matters. The war on terrorism. You only have to look at bush's excellent record in making the world a safer place to see that "his" polcicies have worked. Hundred of suicide attacks from saudi arabia to turkey. Hundreds killed in madrid. Hundreds killed in nothern ossettia. Thousands dead in Iraq. suicide bombs daily. Our children being butchered. Our soldiers being killed. Thousands dead in america on 9/11 (bush was in power when that happened too remember.) Osama still at large god knows where. Yeah george bush' policies have gone down a treat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphina Posted September 5, 2004 #28 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Wun, believe me...nobody appreciated sarcasm more than I do But I'm afraid you're not going to be listened too... Any rational, free thinking, intelligent person can look at the absolute insanity that has been Bush's term in office and think: "wow...voting for this guy isn't a good idea " The rest will just ignore every word you said, true though they are, and shout "Bush 2004!"...because they're either too afraid, or too lazy, to look at what's going on and actually form an opinion of their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunarmdscissor Posted September 5, 2004 #29 Share Posted September 5, 2004 thing is its not laziness. The wold situation just now is a right wing fanatic's wet dream. And its all being engineered. Of course im not saying or accusing anyone of helpig or having a hand in these attacks all im saying is the climate isnt exaclt being helped is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted September 5, 2004 #30 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Bush will win by an electoral landslide. My opinion. While the popular vote may fall within the pollsters guesses, it is the electoral vote that counts. Close popular? Maybe. Electoral landslide? Most likely. stayed on topic and was not drawn in to the tit for tat of the rest of the posters....pats self on back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathory Posted September 5, 2004 #31 Share Posted September 5, 2004 (edited) The war on terrorism. You only have to look at bush's excellent record in making the world a safer place to see that "his" polcicies have worked. Hundred of suicide attacks from saudi arabia to turkey.hmm you do realise that an increase in attacks was to be expected, while it may not be a conventional war, its still a war Hundreds killed in madrid. same again, if Bush wasn't causing them problems, why would they be trying to get rid of support? Hundreds killed in nothern ossettia. Thousands dead in Iraq.its a war, people die, please tell me how they could have dealt with saddam without the loss of life suicide bombs daily Our children being butchered.blame america, appease the terrorists!! Our soldiers being killed. well it is a war, again, offer a solution which doesn't involve death Thousands dead in america on 9/11 (bush was in power when that happened too remember.)so what if Bush was in power? go read the 9/11 report thanks Osama still at large god knows where. wow, therefore its a failure Yeah george bush' policies have gone down a treat better than the policies of those before him and the alternatives the europeans seem to be offering Edited September 5, 2004 by bathory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
man_in_mudboots Posted September 5, 2004 #32 Share Posted September 5, 2004 52% of likely voters surveyed would vote for President George W. Bush, 41% would vote for Democratic nominee John Kerry, and 3% would vote for Ralph Nader...........poor ralph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_hAiLO_ Posted September 5, 2004 #33 Share Posted September 5, 2004 (edited) Bush is liberating the world along side America's Allies. For those who say that they see no liberation, don't expect to see it that quickly, it will take years. Of all the casualties, sacrifices and bad stuff going on, it is all to liberate the world of terror, for the safety. People just don't realize that it has a cost to do the ultimate good thing. P.S. I can't debate on Bush's behalf by myself!! Someone back me up... Edited September 5, 2004 by Hailo_hellFIRE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_hAiLO_ Posted September 5, 2004 #34 Share Posted September 5, 2004 (edited) 52% of likely voters surveyed would vote for President George W. Bush, 41% would vote for Democratic nominee John Kerry, and 3% would vote for Ralph Nader...........poor ralph. 255623[/snapback] See that? sooooo many people see it the way I do.......For Safety!!! LMAO, John Kerry will defend America using Spit balls LMAO !!!! Kerry will create a stronger America....until it goes boom again.... P.S. LET THE FLAMING BEGIN!!!! Edited September 5, 2004 by Hailo_hellFIRE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelofmercy Posted September 5, 2004 #35 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Thank you Bathory and Hailo_hellfire!!! I love how people who aren't even Americans seem to always know what's best for America. Terrorists are evil. They have to be stopped. One man has the guts to do it, probably saved countless lives (though i agree I wish lives didn't have to be sacrificed to do so) and all you can do is insult a man who has the guts to actually live his beliefs rather than pander to public opinoin. Didn't you ever here the saying that sometimes the right choice ins't the popular choice? Or did you all just not go to high school or college and have those experiences? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_hAiLO_ Posted September 5, 2004 #36 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Thank you Bathory and Hailo_hellfire!!! I love how people who aren't even Americans seem to always know what's best for America. Terrorists are evil. They have to be stopped. One man has the guts to do it, probably saved countless lives (though i agree I wish lives didn't have to be sacrificed to do so) and all you can do is insult a man who has the guts to actually live his beliefs rather than pander to public opinoin. Didn't you ever here the saying that sometimes the right choice ins't the popular choice? Or did you all just not go to high school or college and have those experiences? 255636[/snapback] Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snuffypuffer Posted September 5, 2004 #37 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Bush will win by an electoral landslide. My opinion. While the popular vote may fall within the pollsters guesses, it is the electoral vote that counts. Close popular? Maybe. Electoral landslide? Most likely. stayed on topic and was not drawn in to the tit for tat of the rest of the posters....pats self on back 255609[/snapback] Bush didn't even have that in the last election. The Electoral College, as far as I'm concerned, is an utter disgrace and should be done away with. It should be one man, one vote, and the man with the most votes wins. George W. Bush was appointed by the Supreme Court, he lost the popular vote. Am I the only one who finds this a little disturbing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathory Posted September 5, 2004 #38 Share Posted September 5, 2004 he lost the popular vote. links please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelofmercy Posted September 5, 2004 #39 Share Posted September 5, 2004 one man one vote wouldn't work either snuffy puffer, that's why it's never been implemented. If it was one man one vote, all the heavily populated states, such as California, Texas, Florida, Mass, etc would have the edge in picking the president, the smaller states like Rhode Island wouldn't have a say at all. Whereas with the electoral college they do have a say because you need 270 votes to win. Lil old Rhode island can and does make a difference so they aren't ignored. I admit the electoral college is flawed, but so is one man one vote. I think you should be able to divide electoral votes based on the percentage of people voting for a particular candidate, that makes more sense to me...but who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 5, 2004 #40 Share Posted September 5, 2004 I love how people who aren't even Americans seem to always know what's best for America. 255636[/snapback] You know, it's comments like these that show what kind of people are supporting Bush. America has an impact on a lot of countries, especially Canada. We thrive on their economy. But I suppose you already know all about that, right? Oh, and I'm sure those non-Americans in Iraq, Afganistan and Kosovo (etc!) don't care who's in power in the USA either. Maybe everyone else in the world is a little scared, because whether we like it or not, America has a huge influence on the rest of the world. What about how a group of middle aged men get to decide that your women can't have abortions, no matter what? Or the fact that your president thinks gay marriages are an abomination? Or what about all the money that's being cut from extremely important programs for the war on terrorism (like healthcare and education)? What about your economy? Just think a little before making your ignorant comments, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snuffypuffer Posted September 5, 2004 #41 Share Posted September 5, 2004 he lost the popular vote. links please? 255696[/snapback] 2000 General Election results Gore/Lieberman 48.38% of the popular vote, Bush/Cheney 47.87% of the popular vote. Which would mean more people wanted Al Gore to be their President. Bush is not the choice of the people. one man one vote wouldn't work either snuffy puffer, that's why it's never been implemented. If it was one man one vote, all the heavily populated states, such as California, Texas, Florida, Mass, etc would have the edge in picking the president, the smaller states like Rhode Island wouldn't have a say at all. And Rhode Island has a say now? Look at the states with the most electoral votes. They just happen to be the states with the largest populations. Rhode Island may have slightly more say than it would under another system, but it's still up to the big states to decide who the President is. When it comes down to it, the people voting should be the ones that decide who wins the election, not some obsolete measuring system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelofmercy Posted September 5, 2004 #42 Share Posted September 5, 2004 10 out of ten terrorists agree, anybody but Bush So you are probably right, that big coalition of terrorists over there in the middle easts DO have a vested interest in who the next president is. I, for one, am glad they don't have a say. They want Kerry to win cuz they know he won't do a darn thing to stop them. Lets see, George W has gotten the Taliban out of Afghanistan and now women can, oh Lord, READ and go out IN PUBLIC! Shame on him. He got Saddam out of Iraq and now those people have CLEAN WATER and ELECTRICITY. What was he thinking? Also the terrorists camps have are becoming disorganized because we keep capturing and killing all their leaders. Darn George W!! So sorry, I respectfully disagree and I am sorry that you took my previous comment as an insult, wasn't meant that way, but it is how I feel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 5, 2004 #43 Share Posted September 5, 2004 You know, I did talk about issues other than the war on terrorism. How about a little feedback on those issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snuffypuffer Posted September 5, 2004 #44 Share Posted September 5, 2004 There you go, if you're not with Bush, you're siding with the terrorists. Can you come up with any reason other than terrorism for supporting Bush? Just one, one halfway reasonable reason for supporting George W. than the war on terror? I'm begging you. Maybe his economic platform? Perhaps you can tell me his stance on education or health care? Seriously, do you even have any idea? Just one reason, all I'm asking you for, that has nothing to do with terrorism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing_Dumplings Posted September 5, 2004 #45 Share Posted September 5, 2004 (edited) Disinterested...your very name tells me you're young and dumb. thats not nice *edit* Terrorists are evil. They have to be stopped. terrorism will never end....no matter what you do... it will never stop. having more wars and bombings of terrorist countries only creates more terrorism. its an endless cycle. people have the idea that terrorism can end. but no matter whos the prez, it wont...even if america levels iraq and wipes it off the map...other countries will just get p***ed at us...and then poof! more terrorist are born. focus on repairing the relationships and chaos we have created over the years...dont try and make it worse. Edited September 5, 2004 by Dancing_Dumplings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelofmercy Posted September 5, 2004 #46 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Other issues? ok. The unemployment rate is actually LOWER than when Clinton was president. The economy is actually BETTER than when Clinton was president. And given that he had to deal with a national disaster in the first year of his presidency...don't think he's done half bad..i have a link, i know you will say its biased..but numbers don't lie. http://www.scaryjohnkerry.com/convention.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snuffypuffer Posted September 5, 2004 #47 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Give me a link that isn't biased, like, where did this site get their numbers? Yes, the bias of the site makes me think twice, so give me an objective source and I'll get back to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathory Posted September 5, 2004 #48 Share Posted September 5, 2004 terrorism will never end....no matter what you do... it will never stop. having more wars and bombings of terrorist countries only creates more terrorism. its an endless cycle. of course terrorism will always exist, just like inequality and violence, however what Bush is attempting to do is to create an environment which doesn't allow for terrorism and terrorist groups to thrive, its a work in progress, we aren't going to be seeing any change in the short term. Is iraq the first step of a much larger plan? most likely, is this a bad thing? noone can really say, personally i'm all for bringing the middle east into the 21st century, and i'll be damned if some aging liberal hippy douche (south park reference, not attack on anyone here) wants to complain about cultural differences and understanding and all that crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermai Posted September 5, 2004 #49 Share Posted September 5, 2004 *sirs quietly and stands up. opens mouth...* [/b] VOTE FOR BUSH 2004!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *closes mouth, sits back down in acorner* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnSide Posted September 5, 2004 #50 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Anyone seen the previews for the new movie by the creators of south park? AMERICA: WORLD POLICE!! Staring Bush, Kerry, Moore, etc etc as Marionets. Hilarious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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