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My whole life I have had the problem of only having lucid intense nightmares almost always hinging around some sort of apocalyptic event. My question is this - is there any way besides some sort of prescribed med to NOT dream or at least some way to change the nightmare into something else? I've started sleeping less and less - 2-4hrs a night so any advice would be appreciated.

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Yes there is.

Dreams like the ones you describe come from deep within the subconscious. The subconscious retains all experiences from every life time as if it were a present moment event. If there is trauma of some kind that demands attention, then you will get the kind of dreams that you are describing.

I would like to encourage meditations that involve self discovery, through conversations with your higher self in this particular case.

Best Wishes!!

John

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Well, first, I'd like to say hi to John. John and I often agree to a considerable extent, but perhaps we say things differently.

So, to the OP, if I understand you, your nightmares are different in plot, setting and characters, but there is a recurring element or theme that unites them,

... almost always hinging around some sort of apocalyptic event.

What I would suggest, then, is that you spend some conscious waking time thinking about that common feature.

"Thinking" should be read broadly. In fact, it may even be the wrong word, because what may be best is to do something with the idea. Write it down. Write about it (not so much write an explanation or narration of it, but maybe write a story about how the thing looked to another character in the dream). If you draw or paint, then draw or paint something. Dance, if you dance... whatever it takes to engage your attention without losing consciousness.

But, if you'd rather, then indeed think about it. In which case,

I would like to encourage meditations that involve self discovery, ...

and by all means, ask the source of dreams inside yourself, whatever you conceive that to be, what's up with the apocalyspe?

I'd also like to offer another possibility about one thing, though. I wouldn't go into the exercise with the asumption that the root of a nightmare outbreak is some traumatic event. The source of dreams is a drama queen. The matter may well be serious, but not necessarily traumatic, just because the imagery which expresses the concern is disturbing to the dream witness.

If you'd like to read somethiing about the background of this advice, then googlebing "active imagination" Jung. If you'd like to listen to a complete "worked example" of a formal version, then check out podcasts 21 and 22 from John Betts,

http://www.jungian.ca/jung-podcasts/

But, you might prefer to do some "active imagination lite" instead, which is any of the activities John or I suggested.

Good luck with it.

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Well, since dreams are a normal part of deep sleep, you probably can't really nix them completely, nor do you want to not have deep sleep because that isn't healthy.

Other folks here have given some good suggestions. I would add another one. Trick yourself into not having bad dreams. As do prepare to sleep, tell yourself not to have bad dreams or tell yourself to have good dream scenarios. Or if you are a lucid dreamer like your OP suggests, take control of your dream and bend it into something less nasty.

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Meditations are your best bet. The other thing you can try is a refusal to participate in negative dreams. If you are lucid ( you know you are dreaming), and things are not going well simply sit down close your eyes and start singing your favorite song. ( this works very well.... Soon your subconcouse will take over and end all nightmares imeadiatly)

The other thing that I recomend is to change your attitude toword it, look at your lucidity as a way to explore the depths of your mind. You can learn so much about yourself.... And activity engage your issues face to face.

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Hi Fig .... Until you can find the cause by finding the source and then stop them as already mentioned , there is a simple way to deal with nightmares ... External noise such as talkback radio , switch it on when you go to bed and leave it on all night , this tricks the brain into listening instead of dreaming .

I know this works because I had nightmares for years and the only way I could sleep was external noise , you soon get used to the noise and sleep right through .

However there is one down side , if you drive long distances and listen to the radio , it will quickly put you off to sleep while driving , mostly when people drive long distances they put the radio on to keep them awake , you can't do that after the first six months of using the radio for sleep therapy .

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thanks for all the great advice - I plan to try everything listed here. I used to meditate but haven't in a while, definitely going to pick back up on that habit. Haven't had any major trauma but I am a worry wort when it comes to just about everything. Thanks again guys, really helpful :)

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So here is what I'm trying. Got the white noise going, plus meditation before I go to bed along with a fixed narrative when I am trying to go to sleep. Also, even though I tried to avoid taking anything, I'm taking *snip* melatonin - So far so good, no dreams yet either good or bad, which I'll take..

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I sincerely hope that 25mg. is a typo and you mean 2.5 mg. If not, you are really going to have some doozies!

Melatonin at higher doses is known to cause really nasty nightmares.

3mg is a typical nightly dose.

I've been taking it for years and love how vivid and memorable my dreams are. But 25 mg.....I can't even imagine!!

So here is what I'm trying. Got the white noise going, plus meditation before I go to bed along with a fixed narrative when I am trying to go to sleep. Also, even though I tried to avoid taking anything, I'm taking *snip* melatonin - So far so good, no dreams yet either good or bad, which I'll take..

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:)Hi there,

Scientist have only recently discovered that sleep deprivation can produce severe health problems, depression, hallucinations,

voices in ones head and probably nightmares too.

So make sure you are getting enough sleep - because your stated 2- 4 hours sleep is a recipe for disaster,

which is not only the probably cause for your nightmares etc. but also an invitation to get a heart attack.

PLEASE GO AND SEE A DOCTOR, or MUCH BETTER (because 'normal' doctors have not yet fully realised

the serious dangers sleep disorders can cause!) SEE A SLEEP DISORDER SPECIALIST !

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My whole life I have had the problem of only having lucid intense nightmares almost always hinging around some sort of apocalyptic event. My question is this - is there any way besides some sort of prescribed med to NOT dream or at least some way to change the nightmare into something else? I've started sleeping less and less - 2-4hrs a night so any advice would be appreciated.

As other have pointed out, dreams are a projection of your subconsciousness. Very intense nightmares are usually a good indicator that you are "fighting" something within your inner-self. So in other words, it could very well be linked to your current phychological/emotional situation.

I would try to deal with this first. I went through such periods when I was depressed or simply very stressed/anxious. I took care of that and no more nightmares. I refused to use any meds for it but I guess it depends on you.

I wish you to get better.

Peace.

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All great advice, i would just like to add the basics. Proper diet, and exercise. That helped me out, but since your having sleeping problems now, i would suggest you take it easy on the exercise. Start small until you get better sleep, such as walking more. That always helped me. I have had trouble sleeping basically all my life, but when i exercise and then later go to sleep, i don't even remember my dreams for the most part.

I am not a medical doctor, i am just telling you what helped me, but then again my sleeping problems are not related to nightmares.

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Hi OP. I don't think it is possible to stop dreaming. Dreams are subconscious activity, and our subconsciousness is always "working" even when we sleep. But it is *very* easy to suppress your ability to remember dreams.

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I always had nightmares of these specific monsters attacking me, every night for a while, to stop it I day dreamed for a while that I was in my dream, and I was fighting back and winning! The nightmares stopped after that.

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First I would suggest that you monitor what you are reading and watching.

If you make it a habit to watch and read things that involve fighting or disasters then your brain will use that imagery as building blocks for dreams, after all if you are inundated with certain themes then it is going to be reflected in dreams.

For example if you regularly watch, say, Ghost Hunters then at some point your dreams will contain related elements and create "spin off" type dreams that are influenced by such media.

Second is that you may simply want to stop paying so much attention to your dreams and stop assuming that any of them have special meanings because 99.99% of the time they don't.

Simply stop focusing on the dreams, make an active effort to ignore them as you focus on real life. Use reality to guide your daily life and soon you will see your dreams becoming more and more bland. See..the brain is much like an attention seeking bratty child, when it sees that it is getting attention by creating seemingly "meaningful" dreams then it continues but once you start ignoring it and choose to actively pay attention to reality then it will slowly give up and start functioning as it is supposed to.

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My whole life I have had the problem of only having lucid intense nightmares almost always hinging around some sort of apocalyptic event. My question is this - is there any way besides some sort of prescribed med to NOT dream or at least some way to change the nightmare into something else? I've started sleeping less and less - 2-4hrs a night so any advice would be appreciated.

Certain gem stones enhance,and suppress dreaming.

I have found,personally,that tourmaline and moldavite enhance dreaming,and if I wear a phenacite/phenakite,on my person to bed,I will dream,but the moment I wake up,its wiped out,or I do not dream at all.

The phenacite blocks it,even if I also had on a moldavite.

I stopped wearing phenacite to bed,because I like to dream,and remember them.

The other thing,ummmmm,no disrespect intended ,but are you satisfied on a personal level ?

Nightmares like that are sometimes attributed to not having proper fulfillment sexually .

Maybe join a gym ,and beat up a heavy bag every other day...

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Certain gem stones enhance,and suppress dreaming.

I have found,personally,that tourmaline and moldavite enhance dreaming,and if I wear a phenacite/phenakite,on my person to bed,I will dream,but the moment I wake up,its wiped out,or I do not dream at all.

The phenacite blocks it,even if I also had on a moldavite.

I stopped wearing phenacite to bed,because I like to dream,and remember them.

[...]

Wishful thinking at its best. Try someone else putting gems (or simply gravel pebbles) at random under your pillow. You will discover no correlation between things under your pillow and dreams whatsoever. You can try it with ease. But here is the question: Will you dare? :ph34r:

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Wishful thinking at its best. Try someone else putting gems (or simply gravel pebbles) at random under your pillow. You will discover no correlation between things under your pillow and dreams whatsoever. You can try it with ease. But here is the question: Will you dare? :ph34r:

I mentioned 2 very specific gem stones,one of which has extra Terrestrial Origins.

I slept with both,on numerous occaisions.

Both do exactly what I say they do.

http://www.awakenwithin.net/shop-gem-mold.html

http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/paranormal-phenomena/has-anyone-had-weird-experiences-using-moldavite-254873.html

http://www.evolver.net/user/trish_and_rob_macgregor/blog/moldavite_tool_synchronicity

http://www.healing-crystals-for-you.com/moldavite-dreams-and-guidesspirits-help.html

Numerous people describe moldavite dreaming as being quite amazing,not just me.

Phenacite dream blocking,is my own observation,as I assumed it would do the opposite.

Go buy one of each.Sleep with both at least 4, times,so there can be no confusions,and then come back and tell me they are just " pebbles".

This person is asking for a drug free alternative,and given my experience with phenacite,it might help them.

You can buy decent phenacite on line.The ones from Brazil tend to be stronger than others,but even the smallest stones are powerful ,is my experience.

They clear negative energies,and block dreams,for me anyway.

http://crystal-cure.com/phenacite.html

http://www.crystalstargazer.com/phenaciteVarious.html

Some people cannot hold them for long,because they have such powerful vibrations.

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I mentioned 2 very specific gem stones,one of which has extra Terrestrial Origins.

I slept with both,on numerous occaisions.

Both do exactly what I say they do.

http://www.awakenwithin.net/shop-gem-mold.html

http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/paranormal-phenomena/has-anyone-had-weird-experiences-using-moldavite-254873.html

http://www.evolver.net/user/trish_and_rob_macgregor/blog/moldavite_tool_synchronicity

http://www.healing-crystals-for-you.com/moldavite-dreams-and-guidesspirits-help.html

Numerous people describe moldavite dreaming as being quite amazing,not just me.

Phenacite dream blocking,is my own observation,as I assumed it would do the opposite.

Go buy one of each.Sleep with both at least 4, times,so there can be no confusions,and then come back and tell me they are just " pebbles".

This person is asking for a drug free alternative,and given my experience with phenacite,it might help them.

You can buy decent phenacite on line.The ones from Brazil tend to be stronger than others,but even the smallest stones are powerful ,is my experience.

They clear negative energies,and block dreams,for me anyway.

http://crystal-cure.com/phenacite.html

http://www.crystalstargazer.com/phenaciteVarious.html

Some people cannot hold them for long,because they have such powerful vibrations.

Claims of magic powers adds extra to the price, and sellers will do everything (lie, deceive) to max their profits. Simple.

BTW, what kind of vibrations those gems have? And are you sure you have naturally occurring crystals and not just imitations?

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Claims of magic powers adds extra to the price, and sellers will do everything (lie, deceive) to max their profits. Simple.

BTW, what kind of vibrations those gems have? And are you sure you have naturally occurring crystals and not just imitations?

I first started wearing moldavite in the 80s,long before anyone said anything about it being magical.

As a matter of fact,no one said anything about magic properties.

And again,my discoveries of phencite dream suppression,are my own.

Its not on any website I have seen.

You can find pieces of both these stones for 20 bucks.

Moldavite is the only meteorite that can be cut into faceted gems.Faceted gems,like ANY faceted gem,costs more.

Raw moldavite set in jewelry,like ALL JEWELRY,costs more.

And like ANY METEORITE,it sometimes costs more.

Again,there are 20$pieces.

I never told the op to buy one,as it enhances dreams,I just used it as an example.

I do not care about your skepticism,as nothing I say convinces people like you.My suggestion is for the OP.

I am dubious to MOST gemstone alleged properties,but I have had these things happen to me,first hand.

If the OP chooses to take my advice, is entirely up to them.

I do not own stocks in phenacite or moldavite mines.

Moldavite,is actually being mined to death.

Bigger pieces are no longer available,because it's been so over mined.

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Moldavite is the only meteorite that can be cut into faceted gems.Faceted gems,like ANY faceted gem,costs more.

Raw moldavite set in jewelry,like ALL JEWELRY,costs more.

And like ANY METEORITE,it sometimes costs more.

[...]

While its formed during impact, moldavite consists of pretty much terrestrial materials. It is a simple glass, and has "powers, vibrations" as much as green (or of any other color) bottle glass. All "vibrations and powers" come from "I believe" only.

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If you make it a habit to watch and read things that involve fighting or disasters then your brain will use that imagery as building blocks for dreams, after all if you are inundated with certain themes then it is going to be reflected in dreams.

For example if you regularly watch, say, Ghost Hunters then at some point your dreams will contain related elements and create "spin off" type dreams that are influenced by such media.

It depends for everyone. There are ways to help controling this. But the difficulty of doing so depends, of course, on your current emotional and psychological states.

Second is that you may simply want to stop paying so much attention to your dreams and stop assuming that any of them have special meanings because 99.99% of the time they don't.

I completely disagree with that. On the contrary, suffering from very intense reocuring nightmares for instance can very well be a sing of emotional/mental distress/disorder of some sort. Dreams are composed of thoughts and emotions. I hardly see how this couldn't be related to what you are living in your everyday life.

My dreams have always been the reflect of my life. And I am quite positive that it is the same with everybody.

Simply stop focusing on the dreams, make an active effort to ignore them as you focus on real life. Use reality to guide your daily life and soon you will see your dreams becoming more and more bland. See..the brain is much like an attention seeking bratty child, when it sees that it is getting attention by creating seemingly "meaningful" dreams then it continues but once you start ignoring it and choose to actively pay attention to reality then it will slowly give up and start functioning as it is supposed to.

The brain dosen't act randomly and meaninglessly in my opinion. And I hardly see how one could ignore his dreams unless he medically supresses them. If it gets to him so much during the day, I doubt he can just ignore his emotions especially since they could very well be the source itself of his bad dreams.

My thoughts.

Peace.

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