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We are supposed to compare scripture with scripture to get the meanings of words. Example: the "beast" in Daniel was empires. One empire followed another until the very end and destruction of that beast. The beast did not have a break at the ankles with a 2000 year gap for a revived Roman Empire. The iron from the two legs (the Roman Empire) extends down into the feet, which is mixed with clay (Israel) for an uneasy alliance. On it's feet were 10 toes, which was the 10 economic foundations of the Decapolis controlled by the Greeks from the previous empire; and allowed by the Romans to continue to run these districts. When the stone (Jesus) carved out of a mountain (Mt. Zion) not carved by man's hands came He dashed against the evil paganness of the Decapolis and the whole beast crumbled. This is the districts Jesus preached. That is the end of Daniel's beast. There is not going to be a revived Roman Empire.

Now, look at Revelation. There is a beast that had 7 heads and 10 horns. One of the heads had a deadly wound and died and came back to life. Everybody marveled at this great beast (empire). Who is like unto this beast. This will probably be a confederacy of 7 nations led by Germany. Horns seem to be variations of a same religion. Therefore, the horns are probably the Muslium religion.

Next, is a beast with two horns like a lamb. That can only be the United States and Israel. The two horns being the Judea/Christian religion. The first beast (empire) being Israel. The second beast (empire) being the United States --- causes everyone to worship the first beast (Israel) which also had a wound by a sword to the head and lived. This head wound is different. It didn't die. It never stopped living. That was the extermination efforts (the Holocaust) which never caused the Jews to die as a scattered nation. This wound was healed when Israel became a nation again in the land God originally gave them. This being the very ground God cursed in Genesis and the very cursed ground where Jesus was crucified.

The beast (United States) that caused the first beast (Israel) to be worshipped - made fire come down from heaven on earth in the sight of men. The United States has already done that. The atomic bomb did not come from the earth on a rocked. It came down from heaven from an airplane. The world has seen it. The number of its name is 666. UNITED=6, STATES=6, ISRAEL=6. The mark of this beast empire will probably be the Star of David with a cross in the middle. It will be a type of patriotic mark. A reliance/dependency on the empire more than God to provide.

There are at least two other places where Colonial America and the United States are mentioned in Revelation. On two wings of an eagle Christianity was saved from annihilation. The first wing was the Roman Empire. The second was the United States. (KNOWING HISTORY, WHY WOULD ANYONE SAY THE UNITED STATES WAS GOING TO VANISH BECAUSE IT IS NOT MENTIONED IN REVELATION?)

A revived Germany leading 7 nations is what you should be looking for.

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Except the number is 666 or six hundred and sixty-six, not 6 6 6. It's 1 number not 3 as you're using it.

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the spirit of god is the seven churches, the ten horns who knows, the key # 7, that could be said that it is the beast

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Except the number is 666 or six hundred and sixty-six, not 6 6 6. It's 1 number not 3 as you're using it.

The number of the beast's name is six hundred sixty six. It is not a number derived with math that totals 666. It's the number of his name. Each name can be seen as 6 numbers. Therefore, it is 666.

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The number of the beast's name is six hundred sixty six. It is not a number derived with math that totals 666. It's the number of his name. Each name can be seen as 6 numbers. Therefore, it is 666.

666 is one number, not six not three, one. You're using it as three numbers, it's not.

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We are supposed to compare scripture with scripture to get the meanings of words. Example: the "beast" in Daniel was empires. One empire followed another until the very end and destruction of that beast. The beast did not have a break at the ankles with a 2000 year gap for a revived Roman Empire. The iron from the two legs (the Roman Empire) extends down into the feet, which is mixed with clay (Israel) for an uneasy alliance. On it's feet were 10 toes, which was the 10 economic foundations of the Decapolis controlled by the Greeks from the previous empire; and allowed by the Romans to continue to run these districts. When the stone (Jesus) carved out of a mountain (Mt. Zion) not carved by man's hands came He dashed against the evil paganness of the Decapolis and the whole beast crumbled. This is the districts Jesus preached. That is the end of Daniel's beast. There is not going to be a revived Roman Empire.

Now, look at Revelation. There is a beast that had 7 heads and 10 horns. One of the heads had a deadly wound and died and came back to life. Everybody marveled at this great beast (empire). Who is like unto this beast. This will probably be a confederacy of 7 nations led by Germany. Horns seem to be variations of a same religion. Therefore, the horns are probably the Muslium religion.

Next, is a beast with two horns like a lamb. That can only be the United States and Israel. The two horns being the Judea/Christian religion. The first beast (empire) being Israel. The second beast (empire) being the United States --- causes everyone to worship the first beast (Israel) which also had a wound by a sword to the head and lived. This head wound is different. It didn't die. It never stopped living. That was the extermination efforts (the Holocaust) which never caused the Jews to die as a scattered nation. This wound was healed when Israel became a nation again in the land God originally gave them. This being the very ground God cursed in Genesis and the very cursed ground where Jesus was crucified.

The beast (United States) that caused the first beast (Israel) to be worshipped - made fire come down from heaven on earth in the sight of men. The United States has already done that. The atomic bomb did not come from the earth on a rocked. It came down from heaven from an airplane. The world has seen it. The number of its name is 666. UNITED=6, STATES=6, ISRAEL=6. The mark of this beast empire will probably be the Star of David with a cross in the middle. It will be a type of patriotic mark. A reliance/dependency on the empire more than God to provide.

There are at least two other places where Colonial America and the United States are mentioned in Revelation. On two wings of an eagle Christianity was saved from annihilation. The first wing was the Roman Empire. The second was the United States. ( KNOWING HISTORY, WHY WOULD ANYONE SAY THE UNITED STATES WAS GOING TO VANISH BECAUSE IT IS NOT MENTIONED IN REVELATION?)

A revived Germany leading 7 nations is what you should be looking for.

Let me guess, you are Muslim.......

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Let me guess, you are Muslim.......

What? Where did you get that? Did my post also make me out to be German just because I mentioned it too?

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666 is one number, not six not three, one. You're using it as three numbers, it's not.

It is "the number of a man." Man was created Day 6. Six is the number for man. Therefore, it can be three separate 6's.

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What? Where did you get that? Did my post also make me out to be German just because I mentioned it too?

Guess I was wrong :)

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The beast that was and then lives again. I've been lead to believe "the beast that was, but is not, but yet will be present" was the League of Nations set up after WWI. It suffered a death blow with the outbreak of WWII. After WWII the United Nations was established; the beast (made up of earthly governments) came alive again but with more might. But it really is the same as the previous beast (created in its 'image') that was "worshipped" in that it was hoped to stop wars but has not. Nothing has changed. UN is all over the world but it is a toothless beast (after all it is only an image of the powerless League of Nations) that America and Britain (The anglo-american kingdom representating power sharing depicted on one of the two horned heads of the seven headed beast) breathed life into to do their bidding.

America is perhaps the 'false prophet' that with 'smooth' words and 'lies' has mislead kings and kingdoms so that it can bring together nations to WWIII. Plenty of evidence for that now. The false prophet is thrown into the lake of fire. No more American.

I see the King of the North and the King of the South here. But only time will fill us in completely of course. NOt that many will be alive by then. "If those days were not cut short no flesh would be saved". American is behaving like the King of the South that keeps 'pushing' the King of the North. Fits the discription perfectly IMO.

The King of the North? I have for sometime suspected this to be mainly China due to how needlessly hostile USA and other Western countries have been toward it and ultimately created the China we see today. China and other countries are allying themselves as we see today to fight off the never ending pushing and bullying from the South King.

The King of the North ultimately comes to his end after defeating the King of the South as Michael and his team will triumph over the King of the North. But the King of the North would crumble anyway as WWIII would have caused so much of humanity to shatter beyound repair.

Under Michael and his kings, priests, judges he will bring in the Golden Age that will have no end. It will be the fifth era of mankind where corruption and evil will be removed immediately along with ALL human made government. No more chances. Humans have pretty much proven they can not rule themselves and allow themselve to be ruled by ruthless leaders using their children as canon fodder. Michael will 'rule with an iron rod' but for the good of all with no 'elite'.

Then after the 1000 years of Michael's reign the 'kingdom' will be passed back to 'Creator' and all sail into the sunset of peace after a final test of how humans wish to treat each other.

At least this is my take of the whole picture having studied the bible for some twenty years; read Hopi prophacies; and Muslim a bit similar also; and must not forget the Mayan who talk of a new age that has been misinterpreted as the end of the world. Take all the scriptures of nations and they tell similar story of mans final day.

American gone. All 'nations' gone. No more national barriers and one country putting itself above that of another.

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whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa!! one thing at a time, killer!

Let's try to find the four corners first:

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Oh wait, hold on, I think I found a corner...

Ahh my bad, its just some crumby spherical curvature that our

great christian nation let another nation go up an film wicked wicked lies!

Anyways, the bible also says the moon is also a light-source,

either it hasn't even been clicked on yet

or it had already burned out long long ago along with the

age of gods and the devil Jesus himself!...

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It is "the number of a man." Man was created Day 6. Six is the number for man. Therefore, it can be three separate 6's.

But its not, its six hundred and sixty six.

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ProfessorWhat said: [Anyways, the bible also says the moon is also a light-source,

either it hasn't even been clicked on yet

or it had already burned out long long ago along with the

age of gods and the devil Jesus himself!...]

The moon does not produce light but it does refect it. The time of the bible's writing and its audience must be taken into consideration. The language had to be pretty basic and not scientific for that period of time.

Regarding source of light even today we can relate to this. For example: when it is a full moon I don't need a flash light to find my way around outside where I live as it is so well lite soley by the moon. I would consider the moon a source of light though I am aware it is the sun that is the cause of the moons light. The moon is always lite up.

Gods. Tens of millions world wide believe in them. By far the majority of mankind believe in gods or one god then no god/s. Gods are just interdimensional beings with powers that ancient man did not understand so saw them as gods and the beings wanted to be seen as gods. But each to his or her own.

Is three representative of imperfection? Don't know anything about the number stuff. If so, would doubling three to make six, mean twice the imperfection or badness (mankind became imperfect)? So when six is represented it is monsterous and making three sixes really, really bad? 3=imperfect/bad. 6= 2x imperfect/bad. 3x6= Very imperfect or inclined to bad and selfishness like man has shown itself to be. I thought 666 meant complete, or was that 667?

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ProfessorWhat said: [Anyways, the bible also says the moon is also a light-source,

either it hasn't even been clicked on yet

or it had already burned out long long ago along with the

age of gods and the devil Jesus himself!...]

The moon does not produce light but it does refect it. The time of the bible's writing and its audience must be taken into consideration. The language had to be pretty basic and not scientific for that period of time.

THAT WAS THE MOST RETARDED STATEMENT I HAVE READ ALL YEAR๏̯͡๏)

It had nothing to do with any level of comprehension! After all,

it's been known for so damn long that Mars and Venus were planets (of the visible five)

that no one knows who discovered them. It was and still is suppression

on a literally global scale! Look at the migratory plains tribes of

pre-U.S.A. that dragged their stuff around with nothing better than

a pair of sticks at best compared to their "enlightened" european counterparts:

Travois_dog_and_Indian.jpg

EVEN THEY KNEW EVERYTHING GOES ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND!!

ZFjbw.jpg

Like I said, it had absolutely nothing to do

with comprehension. Just reasoning.

"It was morality that burned the books of the ancient sages,

and morality that halted the free inquiry of the Golden Age and

substituted for it the credulous imbecility of the Age of Faith.

It was a fixed moral code and a fixed theology which robbed the

human race of a thousand years by wasting them upon alchemy,

heretic-burning, witchcraft and sacerdotalism."~ H. L. Mencken

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Many theologians suggest that "666" might actually be "616", which means the Beast is actually Marvel Comics, because the "universe number" of the core Marvel comics is universe 616.

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THAT WAS THE MOST RETARDED STATEMENT I HAVE READ ALL YEAR๏̯͡๏)

It had nothing to do with any level of comprehension! After all,

it's been known for so damn long that Mars and Venus were planets (of the visible five)

that no one knows who discovered them. It was and still is suppression

on a literally global scale! Look at the migratory plains tribes of

pre-U.S.A. that dragged their stuff around with nothing better than

a pair of sticks at best compared to their "enlightened" european counterparts:

Travois_dog_and_Indian.jpg

EVEN THEY KNEW EVERYTHING GOES ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND!!

ZFjbw.jpg

Like I said, it had absolutely nothing to do

with comprehension. Just reasoning.

"It was morality that burned the books of the ancient sages,

and morality that halted the free inquiry of the Golden Age and

substituted for it the credulous imbecility of the Age of Faith.

It was a fixed moral code and a fixed theology which robbed the

human race of a thousand years by wasting them upon alchemy,

heretic-burning, witchcraft and sacerdotalism."~ H. L. Mencken

I agree with you, ProfessorWhat. The so called 'uncivilized' tribes (which I have always considered highly offensive lable) had far advanced scientific knowledge. I was talking about the bible's audience whose leaders wanted to keep them in the darkness of ignorance and fear (as they still do today). Religion suppressed and or destroyed the vast knowledge of the natives in order to hide the fact that their knowledge was inferior to the 'savages'.

I've all my life shared the beliefs of the native peoples in Australia and America along with their true knowledge of the reality around us. And for that I have been osticised and laughed at as being ignorant and a believer in 'fairy tales'. The West is far from 'moral'.

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What makes it BS is that this isn't coming from some unexplainable bygone

mountaintop relic of antiquity or a holy spire-like obelisk with homophonic,

ambiguous quadruple-entendres of lore carved into it. You're relying on

a man-made and severely altered product that has been so sickeningly mass-

produced to such a point that it rivals the McNugget. They're like roaches:

if you see one you can bet there's a hundred more near by... Ba-Dum-Tssss!!

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What makes it BS is that this isn't coming from some unexplainable bygone

mountaintop relic of antiquity or a holy spire-like obelisk with homophonic,

ambiguous quadruple-entendres of lore carved into it. You're relying on

a man-made and severely altered product that has been so sickeningly mass-

produced to such a point that it rivals the McNugget. They're like roaches:

if you see one you can bet there's a hundred more near by... Ba-Dum-Tssss!!

If you are refering to the bible, ProffessorWhat, I again agree with what you say re being mass produced and severely altered. I once belonged to a bible based cult who bought the rights of a bible translation that was 'apparently' the most accurate translation around. No it was not. After I was thrown out of the cult I did some research into the translator of the translation and found the cult had brought the translation and altered it considerably. And not only that the translator himself had altered very vital parts of the scriptures that totally bastardised certain passages.

But having said that I do believe 'some' of the scriptures can still be valuable as prophacy and its translation as it has not been 100% altered and/or contaminated. The church took many books away from the bible when they 'edited' it and decided what they wanted in the scriptures. Much that was not 'convenient' to their man made and often false teachings was removed. Words, scriptures and whole books that would rip apart the church and strip power from those holding over people was removed. Funny, though, even some scriptures that remain showing many of the teachings of the church are wrong are ignored. What can I say. Man likes his ears tickled, just as the bible says.

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If you look hard enough you can find a "prophesy" in any work of fiction.

There is one in "Lord of the Rings" prophesying the collapse of capitalism:

The greed of Sauron (Capitalism), leads him to ignore the Socialist proles (Hobbits), who are then able to destroy the ring (the economy) bringing Sauron (Capitalism) to an end creating in its place a Socialist utopia.

All it takes is a little imagination and too much spare time.

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THAT WAS THE MOST RETARDED STATEMENT I HAVE READ ALL YEAR๏̯͡๏)

It had nothing to do with any level of comprehension! After all,

it's been known for so damn long that Mars and Venus were planets (of the visible five)

that no one knows who discovered them. It was and still is suppression

on a literally global scale! Look at the migratory plains tribes of

pre-U.S.A. that dragged their stuff around with nothing better than

a pair of sticks at best compared to their "enlightened" european counterparts:

Travois_dog_and_Indian.jpg

EVEN THEY KNEW EVERYTHING GOES ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND!!

ZFjbw.jpg

Like I said, it had absolutely nothing to do

with comprehension. Just reasoning.

"It was morality that burned the books of the ancient sages,

and morality that halted the free inquiry of the Golden Age and

substituted for it the credulous imbecility of the Age of Faith.

It was a fixed moral code and a fixed theology which robbed the

human race of a thousand years by wasting them upon alchemy,

heretic-burning, witchcraft and sacerdotalism."~ H. L. Mencken

And in defending savages, one becomes savage. The Mayans performed human sacrifices to please the gods...

Just saying.

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I didnt really know what to think bout this :P

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And in defending savages, one becomes savage. The Mayans performed human sacrifices to please the gods...

Just saying.

And your god scarificed his own son and countless others.

Just sayin.

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And your god scarificed his own son and countless others.

Just sayin.

The son that was sacrificed as a substitute payment for man's sin did so willingly. Had He not, everybody would have two deaths. One physical and the other spiritual. As it is, His children only have to go through the physical death.

The Mayans and all other tribes had unwilling or drugged unconscious people for sacrifices. They were not spotless, so their deaths was not a substitute and paid nothing for anyone else.

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If you are refering to the bible, ProffessorWhat, I again agree with what you say re being mass produced and severely altered. I once belonged to a bible based cult who bought the rights of a bible translation that was 'apparently' the most accurate translation around. No it was not. After I was thrown out of the cult I did some research into the translator of the translation and found the cult had brought the translation and altered it considerably. And not only that the translator himself had altered very vital parts of the scriptures that totally bastardised certain passages.

But having said that I do believe 'some' of the scriptures can still be valuable as prophacy and its translation as it has not been 100% altered and/or contaminated. The church took many books away from the bible when they 'edited' it and decided what they wanted in the scriptures. Much that was not 'convenient' to their man made and often false teachings was removed. Words, scriptures and whole books that would rip apart the church and strip power from those holding over people was removed. Funny, though, even some scriptures that remain showing many of the teachings of the church are wrong are ignored. What can I say. Man likes his ears tickled, just as the bible says.

I believe the church history I have read from many sources which agree -- there is one line that has been the true handed down Bible, which went through the same order of translations of the wording on the title as Jesus hung on the cross, "JESUS, OF NAZARETH, THE KING OF THE JEWS... written in Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew." Jesus foretold that His kingdom would spread in 3 measures like leaven --- That is the order in which the true translations have happened. Greek was the language everybody wrote and spoke in Jesus' day. The next translations was into Latin. I'm talking about the OLD LATIN VULGATE. (Not Origen's Latin Vulgate a couple hundred years later.) Next translation will be Hebrew. The translations are easily identifiable. A trail of martyred red blood always ensues.

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When the stone (Jesus) carved out of a mountain (Mt. Zion) not carved by man's hands came He dashed against the evil paganness of the Decapolis and the whole beast crumbled. This is the districts Jesus preached. That is the end of Daniel's beast. There is not going to be a revived Roman Empire.

The beast (United States) that caused the first beast (Israel) to be worshipped - made fire come down from heaven on earth in the sight of men. The United States has already done that. The atomic bomb did not come from the earth on a rocked. It came down from heaven from an airplane. The world has seen it. The number of its name is 666. UNITED=6, STATES=6, ISRAEL=6. The mark of this beast empire will probably be the Star of David with a cross in the middle. It will be a type of patriotic mark. A reliance/dependency on the empire more than God to provide.

There are at least two other places where Colonial America and the United States are mentioned in Revelation. On two wings of an eagle Christianity was saved from annihilation. The first wing was the Roman Empire. The second was the United States. (KNOWING HISTORY, WHY WOULD ANYONE SAY THE UNITED STATES WAS GOING TO VANISH BECAUSE IT IS NOT MENTIONED IN REVELATION?)

A revived Germany leading 7 nations is what you should be looking for.

Ho....Boy!!

Quit smoking the green colombian grass sonny.....

You see things your way....wich is kind of DAzed and confused......lol

I would kind of agree that USA is the beast.....or the new Babylon, but saying that a revived Germany leading 7 nations is king of a Cheech and Chong view...

I think you are having a white line nightmare boy...

Religious delusion is wide spread as i can see...

The whole thing you posted is B.S.

So, I'm a Pagan who beleive in God and Jesus, and Jesus will bash me with a stone, and dont tell me that Pagans can't beleive in a one God and Jesus, there are many kinds of Pagans, i Dont beleive in Christianity but i beleive that Jesus died on the cross.

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