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Can someone give a straight answer why these symbols are demonized as satanic? Many of them have little to do with satanism.

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You do realize that he was talking about Communism and how the press needs to be sensitive to National Security issues following the Bay of Pigs disaster, right?

Here's a good analysis.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=928_1217456062

Anyone who claims this speech was about the NWO, the Freemasons, etc. is either lying or woefully uninformed.

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You do realize that he was talking about Communism and how the press needs to be sensitive to National Security issues following the Bay of Pigs disaster, right?

Here's a good analysis.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=928_1217456062

Anyone who claims this speech was about the NWO, the Freemasons, etc. is either lying or woefully uninformed.

Here's the second part of the unedited speech.

He talks of a worldwide conspiracy infiltrating many areas of society, & asks the press to help with the battle against the conspirators.

Marxist communism fits in nicely with satanism. Maybe JFK was opposed to the satanism rather than "communism".

"Since Karl Marx has been depicted as the creator of the greatest atheist system in world history, we should expect that he did not believe in God at all. Surprise!! Marx was a practicing Satanist, and could not, therefore, be an Atheist."

http://www.cuttingedge.org/pages/seminar2/MARXPASS.htm

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JFK warning of the dangers to society from secret societies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kX0sLFXR0Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Skull & bones, freemason satanic links:

http://www.cuttingedge.org/News/n1314.cfm

http://www.cuttingedge.org/free15.htm

Satanism & occult in popular culture:

http://vigilantcitizen.com/

The video was the speach JFK made regarding communisim.

Top 2 links are from a religious website.

Bottom link is laughable only cause of this quote

Nike’s Kobe System: Advertisement With an Illuminati Message

Nike’s Kobe System promotional ads feature basketball player Kobe Briant posing as a useless motivational speaker who “guides” people that are already successful to…beyond success. The entire thing is funny and ridiculous but the strong symbolism present in the ads hint to the “true” nature of success…and what happens “beyond” it. Here’s one example of the series of ads.

You have Kobe speaking in front of “successful” people like Kanye West, billionaire Richard Branson and motivational speaker Tony Robbins. You know these people are not in the ad for the money. They’re here to “represent”. The slogan of the system is “Success for the Successful” and Kobe talks about the step ABOVE success. What is the step above being a successful person in one’s field? Being introduced (or initiated) into the elite – a club that guarantees financial and societal privileges.

So, yes, this is an ad to sell shoes. But it is also an ad to sell the elite and its symbolism to the masses.

The author is grasping at straws to connect advertising and marketing to support his/her own agenda.

Awsome!

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Here's the second part of the unedited speech.

He talks of a worldwide conspiracy infiltrating many areas of society, & asks the press to help with the battle against the conspirators.

Marxist communism fits in nicely with satanism. Maybe JFK was opposed to the satanism rather than "communism".

"Since Karl Marx has been depicted as the creator of the greatest atheist system in world history, we should expect that he did not believe in God at all. Surprise!! Marx was a practicing Satanist, and could not, therefore, be an Atheist."

http://www.cuttingedge.org/pages/seminar2/MARXPASS.htm

Just because a world leader does not believe in god, it automatically make him/her a satan worshiper?

Like i said Cuttingedge.org is a religious website. Of course if something does not support their view, it would be considered satanism. :rolleyes:

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Just because a world leader does not believe in god, it automatically make him/her a satan worshiper?

Like i said Cuttingedge.org is a religious website. Of course if something does not support their view, it would be considered satanism. :rolleyes:

No. It says Marx was a satanist who promoted atheism, therefore he wouldn't have believed what he was promoting.

Are you questioning any claims on cutting edge website?

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For those that may be interested, here is a transcript of the April 27, 1961 speech that is in the videos.

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No. It says Marx was a satanist who promoted atheism, therefore he wouldn't have believed what he was promoting.

Are you questioning any claims on cutting edge website?

Yes.

look at the main site.

My link

Its advertising their books. Any person with half a brain can make up this crap, slap religious propoganda in it and make a profit.

Ah yes, lets get into why Karl Marx was an "beleived" aethiest.

German sociologist Karl Marx, had an ambivalent attitude to religion, viewing it primarily as "the opiate of the masses" that had been used by the ruling classes to give the working classes false hope for millennia, whilst at the same time recognizing it as a form of protest by the working classes against their poor economic conditions.

In the Marxist-Leninist interpretation of Marxist theory, developed primarily by Russian revolutionary Vladimir Lenin, religion is seen as negative to human development, and socialist states that follow a Marxist-Leninist variant are atheistic and explicitly antireligious. Due to this, a number of avowedly Marxist governments in the twentieth century, such as the Soviet Union and the People's Republic of China, implemented rules introducing state atheism. However, several religious communist groups exist, and Christian communism was important in the early development of communism.

My link

So at what point has Karl Marx professed he was aethiest? His statement regarding religion is as plain as day and over the years where subject to different forms of interpretations.

In the case of cutting edge, communisim = satan worshiping.

Good Greif!

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Yes.

look at the main site.

My link

Its advertising their books. Any person with half a brain can make up this crap, slap religious propoganda in it and make a profit.

Ah yes, lets get into why Karl Marx was an "beleived" aethiest.

So at what point has Karl Marx professed he was aethiest? His statement regarding religion is as plain as day and over the years where subject to different forms of interpretations.

In the case of cutting edge, communisim = satan worshiping.

Good Greif!

So what was the claim you had an issue with?

They didn't claim he was an atheist.

Do you know how many we're killed under Stalin & Lenin? 50m+? Sounds more like satanism than idyllic communal living.

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Yes.

look at the main site.

My link

Its advertising their books. Any person with half a brain can make up this crap, slap religious propoganda in it and make a profit.

Ah yes, lets get into why Karl Marx was an "beleived" aethiest.

So at what point has Karl Marx professed he was aethiest? His statement regarding religion is as plain as day and over the years where subject to different forms of interpretations.

In the case of cutting edge, communisim = satan worshiping.

Good Greif!

Is a claim that religion has negative effect on human dev. reason to kill? I don't think so.

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Do you know how many we're killed under Stalin & Lenin? 50m+? Sounds more like satanism than idyllic communal living.

If killing people makes you a satanist, does abusing child make you a christian?

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If killing people makes you a satanist, does abusing child make you a christian?

I didn't say killing people makes you a satanist. Child abusers aren't what I'd call a Christian.

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I didn't say killing people makes you a satanist. Child abusers aren't what I'd call a Christian.

Sorry, 50m+ people then. Still your logic is non sequitur.

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Wow that cuttingedge website is figging nuts.

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Wow that cuttingedge website is figging nuts.

What's nuts?

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Do you know how many we're killed under Stalin & Lenin? 50m+? Sounds more like satanism than idyllic communal living.

Do you know how many we're killed under Stalin & Lenin? 50m+? Sounds more like satanism than idyllic communal living.

YES, you did

Edited by RaptorBites

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Wow that cuttingedge website is figging nuts.

Reminds me of this wackjob

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt1Yo610lG0

A lot more of his bat **** insane ramblings on youtube.

Edited by Rlyeh

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YES, you did

No, you're reading too much in.

The killing of 50m+ is one thing, but the Marxist philosophy behind it is another.

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No, you're reading too much in.

The killing of 50m+ is one thing, but the Marxist philosophy behind it is another.

Then show me where in Karl Marx's philosophy where he clearly states he was a satan worshipper?

Please, I am aching to hear this.

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Sorry, 50m+ people then. Still your logic is non sequitur.

I didn't say killing 50m+ people makes you a satanist either. Je ne parle french

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I didn't say killing 50m+ people makes you a satanist either. Je ne parle french

Do you know how many we're killed under Stalin & Lenin? 50m+? Sounds more like satanism than idyllic communal living.

then explain this comment??

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From what I recall the Church of Satan doesn't think mass murder is cool.

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"So a god snatched from me my all,

In the curse and rack of destiny.

All his worlds are gone beyond recall.

Nothing but revenge is left to me.

The hellish vapors rise and fill the brain,

Till I go mad and my heart is utterly changed.

See this sword? The prince of darkness sold it to me. -

For me beats the time and gives the signs.

Ever more boldly I play the dance of death.

And they are also Oulanem, Oulanem.

The name rings forth like death, rings forth

Until it dies away in a wretched crawl.

Stop, I’ve got it now! It rises from my soul....

Yet I have power within my youthful arms

To clench and crush you with tempestuous force,

While for us both the abyss yawns in darkness.

You will sink down and I shall follow laughing,

Whispering in your ears, “Descend, come with me, friend.”"

Then show me where in Karl Marx's philosophy where he clearly states he was a satan worshipper?

Please, I am aching to hear this.

Why would he do that? He was promoting atheism.

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