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I've never bothered with a concealed carry permit before, just never felt the need. It's something I may have to revisit. I would be very hesitant to carry a pistol for fear of making a mistake in the heat of a moment. But it's a different situation altogether when someone comes to my HOME to do me harm. In the situation I related, this guy was beaten down with bats, chairs and paint cans on his own front porch. By about 20 men. A pump shotgun firing buckshot will thin a crowd like that in record time.

You don't need a concealed carry permit to keep a gun in your home in most states.

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Why should these people be hesitant? It's about protecting thrmselves right ? Or is it the fact that you only think white people should be the ones carry guns?

Most people don't carry guns down here and that's a good thing - as witnessed in this situation. My point was that if a group of people attempted to attack me on my front porch I would not hesitate to kill or injure them to make the attack stop. You can ratchet back the white on black silliness. In the south we learned to coexist a while back and have come to a reasonably good state of affairs. This incident shows that there is and probably always will be a simmering, latent tension over past grievances but race baiting and hate mongering by the media might have caused this man's death. And if he had been killed and the story spread that it was "justice for Trayvon" then the next attack by some "good ole boys" would have been "justice for Owens"....you see how that gets ugly quickly, right?

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Most people don't carry guns down here and that's a good thing - as witnessed in this situation. My point was that if a group of people attempted to attack me on my front porch I would not hesitate to kill or injure them to make the attack stop. You can ratchet back the white on black silliness. In the south we learned to coexist a while back and have come to a reasonably good state of affairs. This incident shows that there is and probably always will be a simmering, latent tension over past grievances but race baiting and hate mongering by the media might have caused this man's death. And if he had been killed and the story spread that it was "justice for Trayvon" then the next attack by some "good ole boys" would have been "justice for Owens"....you see how that gets ugly quickly, right?

Yes I do.

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Why should these people be hesitant? It's about protecting thrmselves right ? Or is it the fact that you only think white people should be the ones carry guns?

You must have fell for the media's portrayal of George being white.

:o

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You must have fell for the media's portrayal of George being white.

:o

He is not white? What is he then?

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He is not white? What is he then?

He's latino.

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Being Latino is not a race; they can be of multiple races. Ever been to a latin american country? Try Colombia, there are native whites, blacks, mestizos and mulattos - they are all latino!

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Now that i think about all people of colors, minorities, and protected classes of people should start packing heat.

Well duh...they already do. It's just, with a gang, they prefer to beat the snot out of you to prolong the agony.

His actions made him white NOT his skin color.

He's latino.

Racists to the left of me, Nordicists to the right... Truly pitiful.

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Come on everyone -- keep racial comments out of the thread.

Thanks,

Karlis -- mod team member

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Being Latino is not a race; they can be of multiple races. Ever been to a latin american country? Try Colombia, there are native whites, blacks, mestizos and mulattos - they are all latino!

You are right. I was incorrectly interchanging race and ethnic catagories. However hispanics and latinos are an ethnic catagory that is seperate from non-hispanic whites.

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As if deviding people by skin color is not enough, they are now also being devided within their skin color by their "different" culture, or better "ethnic category". Are they nordic or even Aryans? :rolleyes: Try explaining the Spanish what makes them any different than the "non-hispanic" whites.

Besides, I thought Zimmerman was of mixed descent? With Zimmermann being a very German name (carpenter). In which ethnic category does that put him? Both?

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You are right. I was incorrectly interchanging race and ethnic catagories. However hispanics and latinos are an ethnic catagory that is seperate from non-hispanic whites.

And none of it matters to this thread anyways. What matters is what he did. As far as I'm concerned this thread is over until the trial begins.

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My apologies, Karlis. I did not see your post until after I posted.

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George Zimmerman is as white as President Obama.

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Zimmerman is black:

He was raised in a racially integrated household and himself has black roots through an Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather - the father of the maternal grandmother who helped raise him.

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The nations taxes are paid by white men? I would like to know where because from where I sit all I have ever seen is white men that are all welfare recipients and they have been for generations. They get the freee lunch and always have whether in the form of food stamps or loans or a rrevolving door in the courtrooms. I believe what I see. Not the lies being passed down from generation to generation.

His actions made him white NOT his skin color.

I finally figured out what your problem is. YOUR COMMUNITY SUCKS! It must if that is all you see. My real guess is that is all you want to see or your entire likeness on this site is all an act.

Edited by Is it for real

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You must have fell for the media's portrayal of George being white.

:o

No, he knows what's what. I have said earlier in this thread that the only difference between the matrix and conspiracy believer is that she believes the bs and he makes it up.

Look at any of the threads he starts and you'll see he is a media matters troll. Everything he posts is soooo far slanted I have a hard time believing that he believes what he posts. Anyone with common sense couldn't believe it.

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If Zimmerman is not convicted, there needs to be rioting like the la riots. Only then will a sense of justice be served. You can only push and oppress people down long enough before they snap.

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This is plain unaceptable. Jail. Period.

It drives me nuts sometimes to see how in the USA you can go to jail for smoking pot and get aquitted for murder at the same time. What a farce.

R.I.P. little buddy.

Peace.

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This is plain unaceptable. Jail. Period.

It drives me nuts sometimes to see how in the USA you can go to jail for smoking pot and get aquitted for murder at the same time. What a farce.

R.I.P. little buddy.

Peace.

You don't want to know the details before you make a decision?

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Like most of your posts isnt slanted to the right. You're the posterchild for the hypocritical Right wing.

I'm not hypocritical. I'm a conservative that stands and lives by my convictions. That isn't so much of slant as it is just being real, something you don't seem to know much about.

Slanted wasn't the right description for you. You post straight up lies, spin, false accusations. You're a MEDIAMATTERS troll. Your goal is disinformation. You're a socialist-communist-anarchist. You're everything that's wrong with this country and you'll never get the fundamental transformation your ows heart desires. Your a traitor and an enemy of the state. Your views are unamerican and unwanted. May the riots you wish for blindside you in a most personal and horrific way. You deserve it.

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Amen, brother. Also, has anyone else heard that George Zimmerman was studying criminal justice? Or that he attempted to administer first aid to Martin before the police arrived? Cold-blooded killer, that.

Thanks to two posters whom I think everyone knows I am getting pretty tired of this thread. To all who seek to stick to the truth and facts, THANK YOU.

Zimmermans mother, Gladys, said her son was very protective of vulnerable people such as the homeless and children. She described how he got involved in a mentoring program for children in Orlando, noting that both of the children he mentored were African-American like Martin.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/safety-location-at-issue-if-zimmerman-is-released-on-bond/2012/04/19/gIQAJNXZUT_story.html

Yes, he is quite the Evil Black hating racist, isn't he? (Sarcasm)

His history shows that Zimmerman wanted to uphold the law, and that his actions were what he thought were in the interest of the community. If Trayvon HAD been a threat, Zimmerman would be a hero for his actions. But, because it was a troubled kid who was having hard times, and an attitude, Zimmerman is now demonized. Ridiculous.

Edited by DieChecker

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If Zimmerman is not convicted, there needs to be rioting like the la riots. Only then will a sense of justice be served. You can only push and oppress people down long enough before they snap.

If that does happen, I sure hope it happens in your neighborhood for you wishing violence on others... Just who are these oppressed people in this day and age???

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Ok folks, settle down - you know who you are, personal insults and ad hom attacks will not be tolerated.

I have invised some posts that constitute various forms of irrelevant and personal commentary.

Next stop will be a warning to specific members, for now all members are reminded to debate the topic, not members personalities - if topics are derailed or devolve into personal battles

between members please use the report button rather than adding further commentary as this can be construed as flamebaiting.

A reminder of the main rules being breached or in danger of being breached in this thread should help clarify and set the parameters back to fruitful discussion:

3f. Abusive behaviour: Do not be rude, insulting, offensive, snide, obnoxious or abusive towards other members.

3e. Flamebaiting: Do not taunt or bait another member in to an argument.

3a. Racism or hatred: We have zero tolerance for racism or hatred towards any specific race, religion, country, gender, individual or group

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I happened onto a piece in Reuters that is balanced and very interesting about Zimmerman and what led up to the shooting.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/25/us-usa-florida-shooting-zimmerman-idUSBRE83O18H20120425

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