Phenomenon Posted September 27, 2004 #101 Share Posted September 27, 2004 It's okay quoting mistaken events, I can do that. But if that's the only arguement for paranormal phenomena not existing then it's a very weak one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazer2004 Posted September 27, 2004 #102 Share Posted September 27, 2004 shes right not every 1 would see the ghost because they are not sencesative to them however ya spell that word shes lucky shes not sencesative to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lottie Posted September 27, 2004 #103 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Are you getting irritated? Three people at investigation seeing same thing. Depends on the conditions. It is very easy for one person to say did you see that and the next to continue that train of thought and for it to become chinese whispers. Its also very easy to pick up on other peoples moods being in a scary enviroment, you know how people are feeling its pretty obvious. Unless three people with no refering to eachother described the exact detail of the incident and the time and place and the general feelings they had whilst experiencing this, to a seperate person, then no I would not find this strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazer2004 Posted September 27, 2004 #104 Share Posted September 27, 2004 ill admit it if i went in a grave yard at night id be scared people fear what they cant see they fear the unknown thats what makes it fun going there you never know whats gona happen there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenomenon Posted September 27, 2004 #105 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Unless three people with no refering to eachother described the exact detail of the incident and the time and place and the general feelings they had whilst experiencing this, to a seperate person, then no I would not find this strange As they have numerous times, and this is my point. Are you getting irritated? I'd prefer to have a decnt mature discussion with a mature person, however, if you feel the need to drop down to some juvenile level then so be it, I shall leave what is a great thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphina Posted September 27, 2004 Author #106 Share Posted September 27, 2004 But if that's the only arguement for paranormal phenomena not existing then it's a very weak one. Believing everything you hear is a weak way of finding out the truth As I tried to tell you earlier...people can lie, people can make mistakes, people can forget. Evidence cannot. Evidence is either there, or it isn't...and as far as ghosts are concerned, there's very little in the way of tangible, undisputable evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazer2004 Posted September 27, 2004 #107 Share Posted September 27, 2004 im sure that you havent been to a very scary place besides the grave yard yet im sure if you ran in to devile worshipers im sure you would find evil spirits by them trust me you would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenomenon Posted September 27, 2004 #108 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Believing everything you hear is a weak way of finding out the truth As I tried to tell you earlier...people can lie, people can make mistakes, people can forget. I don't believe everything I hear and never would. As for lies and mistakes, are you trying to say to me that every paranormal experience can be explained like this, if not how do you explain it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphina Posted September 27, 2004 Author #109 Share Posted September 27, 2004 (edited) Blazer, I seem to remember this entire grave yard expiriment started because you said "trust me, you would!" I don't believe everything I hear and never would. As for lies and mistakes, are you trying to say to me that every paranormal experience can be explained like this, if not how do you explain it? Since I haven't read every paranormal experience, it's difficult to say But I do believe a vast majority of them are, indeed, easily explained...if not by this, then by another method. Certainly, I've yet to hear one that didn't sound explainable. You have to remember, an offered explanation doesn't mean, proof posative, that the explanation is correct...however, it is an alternative. And I'm afraid without any proof of the existance of ghosts, the alternative will have to remain the most likely of those possabilities. I believe there are things we can't yet explain....however, I don't believe there's anything that we'll NEVER explain. Edited September 27, 2004 by Seraphina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazer2004 Posted September 27, 2004 #110 Share Posted September 27, 2004 i never said that the ghosts would be there all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenomenon Posted September 27, 2004 #111 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Blazer, you aint doing too much for the faithful amongst us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphina Posted September 27, 2004 Author #112 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Blazer, you aint doing too much for the faithful amongst us. Yes...I'd noticed that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazer2004 Posted September 27, 2004 #113 Share Posted September 27, 2004 what do you want me to tell you i cant say that everytime a person goes out to a place that is haunted that theres gona be a ghost there that has been provend maney times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenomenon Posted September 27, 2004 #114 Share Posted September 27, 2004 OMG!! That's twice we have agreed, surely not? I need to go lay down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenomenon Posted September 27, 2004 #115 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Blazer, one of the biggest stigma's attached to the paranormal is the cliched idea that ghosts are found in castles, hotels and graveyards. To be honest it's a stigma I'd rather not see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphina Posted September 27, 2004 Author #116 Share Posted September 27, 2004 But that's exactly what you DID tell me when you asked me to head off on my little journey You insisted that, if I called on a relative, they'd appear. You also insisted that, when I left a tape recorder on overnight, I would hear ghosts moving around....I decided to humour you, and did so...and ended up listening to eight hours of nothing when I woke up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazer2004 Posted September 27, 2004 #117 Share Posted September 27, 2004 its not my problem if you really wana see a ghost go play with a board or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenomenon Posted September 27, 2004 #118 Share Posted September 27, 2004 its not my problem if you really wana see a ghost go play with a board or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphina Posted September 27, 2004 Author #119 Share Posted September 27, 2004 So...uh....anyway.....Mr P, what was it you were saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazer2004 Posted September 27, 2004 #120 Share Posted September 27, 2004 go get 1 of those boards im sure you will crap in your pants when you make contact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenomenon Posted September 27, 2004 #121 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Mr P, grrr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lottie Posted September 27, 2004 #122 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Basically as i see it, it comes down to this. Sera decided to do an impromptu experiment to see if she would experience anything and the conclusion was she felt nothing...why does that not suprise me? To me the reality is that people who believe are going to experience, witness something made up in their own minds because of that eagerness to believe. For an outsider or a sceptic to come in and not notice anything is not because they are not sensitive or any of the other excuses....Its because its not there. There is not one person, and there has been many decades gone that this should of happened, who has stood up and said I have real hard evidence here, I know the basic make-up of ghosts, why they present themselves, what effects they cause etc. There is no proof of ghosts existence. From what has been researched, in my mind, only proves that what people experience is to do with enviromental, social, psychological and physiological factors. These factors CANNOT be ignored for they are there and they are real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazer2004 Posted September 27, 2004 #123 Share Posted September 27, 2004 lottie you make me laught lol whatever maybe ill send a ghost your way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphina Posted September 27, 2004 Author #124 Share Posted September 27, 2004 (edited) Lottie, I've been trying to argue the very same thing in every single ghost thread I've posted in...that's trailing back over a year of posting Every single time, I'm told the same thing... "But I saw it! You've just got a closed mind!" It amazes me...people seem to confuse a logical mind with a closed one lottie you make me laught lol whatever maybe ill send a ghost your way Oh Blazer, believe me, you're giving us our fair share of laughs in return Edited September 27, 2004 by Seraphina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenomenon Posted September 27, 2004 #125 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Lottie there is a lot of evdence that still remains unsolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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