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According to the Dutch Archaeologist, Dr. Reinoud de Jonge, Australia was discovered about 4.600 years ago by the 2nd. King Djoser of the 3rd Dynasty.

Feral Dan claimed, that he found Sumerian or Egyptian Pictographs, the precursor of the Keilschrift at Pyramid Mountain, in North Queensland, which makes perfect sense, because that was the Area, that Dr. de Jonge was refering to.

So, you Mocking Birds, Bleat loudly, because the Kariong Glyphs will spoil yor appetite at mocking any scientist,ever.

I was there when Feral Dan found a hitherto unknown set of Proto-Egyptian glyphs at Kariong, I was there when Jake Cassar found another set at a higher level, and the beauty was, it was in front of a Filmcrew, who recorded it all, but best of all was the discovery by the Author Steve Strong of a hitherto unsuspected above ground chamber, hidden

in the Eastwall of the Kariong Glyph Site.

However, as I translated these Proto Egyptian glyphs discovered by Feral Dan, I know that he is very serious about this matter, and I am proud, that he singlehanded, and despite all the un-scientific mockers around still proceeded.

I have re-translated the glyph by glyp translation of the Proto-Egyptian script at Kariong which is available as a free download of 147 pages of reserarch. To download, go to Google and enter "Ancient Egyptians in Australia, Senff". The second entry will get you the book, including the underground pictures, never seen before.

If you are indeed intested in the truth, and how the so-called scientific academe, perverted the research, whether ascribing it to U.F.O sightings as claimed by the Editor (an Egyptologist)of an Archaeological Journal, or the claims of the Author Steven Spillard (another Egyptologis), that a certain glyph was a dog-bone. However, the glyph he was refering to, is the glypht for Inheritance, (Gardiner) while another one, which he called a Bell is in fact the Symbol for a woodcarving chisel.

While a certain Professor,(again an Egyptologist) states that the glyphs are just modern grafiti, when it is in fact, Australia's oldest known Text, unless Feral Dan's Text from Pyramid Mountain Nth. Queensland proves to be older still, but I cannot be sure, untill I get the pictures from him.

If you want to know more about the Kariong glyphs, download the above Book, it is all research and translate the glyphs yourself, it is not that hard, because the transliteration is given; and then marvel, why Australian Egyptologist failed to translate the text.

Was it because the climb from their Ivory tower was too long and too hard, or was it because the truth hurts? You be the Judge.

Hans-Dieter von Senff, Ph.D.

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Correction: Reinoud de Jonge is a theoretical physical chemist.

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Not a hoax then? I don't know enough about this but I'm interested so I'll take a look at the research...

Welcome to UM.

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So, Feraldan is schooled in proto-Sumerian, while you are schooled in proto-Egyptian? Where did you study, Mr von Senff?

And the Sumerians and the Egyptians both discovered Australia?

Why is there no mention of the Kairong glyphs before the mid-1970's, even though the area was inhabited and the site itself is only about 60 metres from a property that was owned (prior to the 70's) by an aboriginal rock-art enthusiast, who made detailed records of such art on and around his property?

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Reminds me of this that I read years ago..

Our researches around Sarina harbour, near Mackay, North Queensland, have identified extensive megalithic ruins, including a stone wharf and nearby pre-European age open-cut gold, copper, tin, silver, iron and other mining operations, as the work of Phoenician colonists, who settled the district in biblical times.

The fact that iron was mined hereabouts places the colony’s age as late as the Iron Age, around 1400 BC.

There are also the wel lpreserved remains of a small temple, an ancient cemetery, and the apparent remains of an ancient 4 -5 square acres barley field, with grid patterns still visible amid its dense rainforest covering. Heather and I commenced a preliminary inspection of the district in September 2000, beginning with a massive wharf composed of rocks and minerals of considerable variety, many of which had been transported to the site from beyond the Sarina district, including offshore Great Barrier Reef Islands, which had been mined for their deposits of copper, gold and other precious metals.

The wharf, which is 6 m in height by 800 m in length by 30 m width, parallels surviving Phoenician examples in Lebanon, the stones having been set in slag cement. Here triremes would have brought ores from the offshore islands and other mainland mining sites to the north and south of Sarina, which after sorting were processed in at least two large stone smelters, whose remains now lie partially submerged on the harbour foreshores. The precious metals would then have been loaded into triremes for the voyage back to the Red Sea, from where, we assume, overland caravans carried them to Egypt and other fabled Mediterranean lands \

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The wharf is covered in ore chips and minerals, identified as Copper, Tin, Silver, Gold, Quartz, Calcite, Cinnabar, Lapis Lazuli and others. Hereabouts I found fragments of thin bronze sheeting turned green with age, and which had been produced from tin and copper smelted locally. Heather and I inspected three open-cut mines excavated through solid basalt by unknown means, from which mercury and gold were extracted. Fine gold dust coating the cliffsides sparkled in the morning sunlight.

Upon a huge basalt slab facing the harbour at another location where gold had been mined, I found a number of large, weathered

Phoenician glyphs, stating:“Guard the land on which this mine stands, for it contains

an ever-increasing amount of gold. The gold of Baal the Sun who is above all.”

Stretching out beyond the shore was a man-made headland leading to a rocky outcrop showing signs of ancient mining. Hereabouts lay ore fragments and samples of Lapis Lazuli. At the temple, mentioned previously I found two small Phoenician glyphs stating, “Guard this enclosure”. Possibly it was built for the worship of either the Celtic Bel or Phoenician Baal Sun-Gods, but a further identifying inscription is needed for a positive identification. The ancient cemetery contains at least 60 graves, but like the barley field, there must have been many more, due to the enormous population that had to have occupied this colony.

http://www.rexgilroy.com/uru_chapter16.html

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The Phoenicians sailed far and wide looking for the rare resource that magically turned copper into bronze. Tin (Sn) is one of the few metals which has been used and traded by humans for more than 5000 years.

The numerous ancient alluvials of Australia were and still are rich in Tin ore.

In the Hawkesbury River area a number of relics have been found over the years. These include 2 large carved stone heads dug up near Richmond which are identical to examples of the sun god 'mithras' and earth mother goddess 'Demeter'. Phoenician deities worshipped over 2800 or more years ago.

Also a small black stone bearing Phoenician letters spelling a name 'thuffi' which was dug up by workmen 18 feet below the surface in the same area.

From the Hawkesbury River, a carved stone head of the Phoenician sun god 'mithras' which the Phoenicians borrowed from the Persians around 3000 years ago.

http://www.sailblogs.com/member/trim50/?xjMsgID=215446

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You win 1000 internets for your amazing post!

Yes, incredible stuff. You were going to get 10,000 internets, but the condescending attitude really worked against you as did the use of the overworked term "bleating" in reference to people. The repeated use of "hitherto" nearly got you a super-duper daily bonus, but alas, the condescending attitude was too much and overwhelmed any positive aspects of the post.

Good try though, good try.

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Does the Central Coast region have an ancient history written in stone that has been hidden for thousands of years?

Australian Ancient History specialist Steven Strong believes that the answer to that question is an unequivocal ‘Yes’ and he has the research and evidence to prove it. Former skeptic and accomplished academic Dr Hans Dieter Von Senff was so taken by the discovery of ancient hieroglyphs in the Kariong area that he has devoted his 2nd Ph.D. entirely to the subject. Introduced to each other by local advocate and respected community member, Nina Angelo OAM, the two are now combining forces to present startling evidence that proves the Central Coast has an ancient, completely untold history in its very own backyard.

About Steven Strong:

Steven Strong has consulted with custodians and Elders all over Australia, and has been given ceremony and a role by the Ramindjeri elders (SA). Steven has

About Dr Hans Dieter Von Senff:

Dr Hans Dieter Von Senff has a degree in Multicultural Studies from Newcastle University, culminating in his thesis, "The Sorbs and their contribution to the Settlement of Australia."

Dr Von Senff also holds a Bachelor of Arts- English Literature, Australian Defence Studies and German from the University of Queensland and has a Ph.D in Germanistics.

Published works are numerous and include, most relevantly, "Forbidden Egyptology. Are the Kariong Hieroglyphs a Hoax ? The result of a photographic Investigation.“

Dr Von Senff is passionate about asserting the authenticity of the Hieroglyphs, ‘These Hieroglyphs are real and have existed for some 4.500 years in Australia. In order to prove that these Proto-Egyptian glyphs are not graffiti, as claimed by various “Experts” and “Egyptologists”, but are the written record left by pre-historic man, written in a coherent and understandable language that makes sense even 4.500 years later. This site is no hoax, but a genuine archaeological discovery; as is proven by the newly discovered 2nd set of glyphs.’

Dr Von Senff’s current and ongoing study of the area will be the basis for his next PH.D work.

forgottenorigin.com/FORGOTTEN-FINAL-PRESS-REL.doc

Hans-Dieter von Senff Ph.D. 06.3.2011

Re: Grave build by Nefer-Dejeseb for his brother Nefer-Ti-Ru at Kariong, N.S.W.

I think, someone gave the boat at Giza the wrong name, as it does look nothing like the sunboat glypth with the solar panel at the rear. Also the cabin serves no proper pupose, if it was used to carry Khufu across the Nile.

If Khufu had wanted to use it, it would not have been disassembled only to be re-assembled in afterlife, ready to use.

as Khufu had plenty of Labor power, he would not have hessitated, to bury the boat, fully rigged at giza.

As the boat is with 43 meter length greater that James Cook’s Endeavour, with which he circumnavigated the world, then Khufu’s boat was big enough to reach Australia. Because of the Cabin, I am inclined to classify it as a long distance Trading vessel, because the vessels on the label of Abydos, engraved in Ivory have a similar shape, except the walls are higher.

Was this a copy of the boat that was buried by Khufu for his two son’s, Nefer-Ti-Ru, who died of snakebite at Kariong, N.S.W. and

Nefer-Djeseb, who build his grave at Kariong ?

http://museumchick.com/2010/03/khufu-boat-museum-giza-egypt-felucca.html

Burial site of Lord Nefer-Ti-Ru

Son of King Khufu,c.2637-2614BC,Fourth Dynasty of Egypt

(Gosford,NSW,Australia)

http://www.slideshare.net/rmdejonge/go-sford-4

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Wow - this looks alot like a certain post not to long ago, about a claim of the (he said Egyptian and Sumerian were so closely related that why he says both) i think it was DANIEL someone or the other?

he also claimed he found the glyphs didnt take photos and he translated them in under a day, funny that eh?

While now we have this, please can you provide pics, proof were you learned to translate such said things?

Im sorry to say this but as AWESOME as it would be to believe you, its hard until you have presented real evidence, not a book that makes claims and misreads the fact but EVIDENCE.

Thanks a million

Peter

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Here are some usefull websites about Australia history that can be proved...

Please supply your reference that shows it is incorrect.

http://www-personal.une.edu.au/~pbrown3/AusOrigins.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Australia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistory_of_Australia

Thanks a million and I really look forward to reading you well written factual and backed up with sources and links to your claim, as Im really keen to understand it better.

Thanks a million.

Peter

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I think Harte's guru Bool Krapi will have something to say on the matter once he is roused from his stupor.

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According to the Dutch Archaeologist, Dr. Reinoud de Jonge, Australia was discovered about 4.600 years ago by the 2nd. King Djoser of the 3rd Dynasty.

Feral Dan claimed, that he found Sumerian or Egyptian Pictographs, the precursor of the Keilschrift at Pyramid Mountain, in North Queensland, which makes perfect sense, because that was the Area, that Dr. de Jonge was refering to.

So, you Mocking Birds, Bleat loudly, because the Kariong Glyphs will spoil yor appetite at mocking any scientist,ever.

I was there when Feral Dan found a hitherto unknown set of Proto-Egyptian glyphs at Kariong, I was there when Jake Cassar found another set at a higher level, and the beauty was, it was in front of a Filmcrew, who recorded it all, but best of all was the discovery by the Author Steve Strong of a hitherto unsuspected above ground chamber, hidden

in the Eastwall of the Kariong Glyph Site.

However, as I translated these Proto Egyptian glyphs discovered by Feral Dan, I know that he is very serious about this matter, and I am proud, that he singlehanded, and despite all the un-scientific mockers around still proceeded.

I have re-translated the glyph by glyp translation of the Proto-Egyptian script at Kariong which is available as a free download of 147 pages of reserarch. To download, go to Google and enter "Ancient Egyptians in Australia, Senff". The second entry will get you the book, including the underground pictures, never seen before.

If you are indeed intested in the truth, and how the so-called scientific academe, perverted the research, whether ascribing it to U.F.O sightings as claimed by the Editor (an Egyptologist)of an Archaeological Journal, or the claims of the Author Steven Spillard (another Egyptologis), that a certain glyph was a dog-bone. However, the glyph he was refering to, is the glypht for Inheritance, (Gardiner) while another one, which he called a Bell is in fact the Symbol for a woodcarving chisel.

While a certain Professor,(again an Egyptologist) states that the glyphs are just modern grafiti, when it is in fact, Australia's oldest known Text, unless Feral Dan's Text from Pyramid Mountain Nth. Queensland proves to be older still, but I cannot be sure, untill I get the pictures from him.

If you want to know more about the Kariong glyphs, download the above Book, it is all research and translate the glyphs yourself, it is not that hard, because the transliteration is given; and then marvel, why Australian Egyptologist failed to translate the text.

Was it because the climb from their Ivory tower was too long and too hard, or was it because the truth hurts? You be the Judge.

Hans-Dieter von Senff, Ph.D.

Alan Dash, a surveyor with the Gosford City Council between 1968 and 1993, first noticed the carvings about 1975. Thoroughly familiar with the area, he revisited the site several times over the next 5 years, each time observing that more and more carvings appeared on the rock face. He considered the engravings the work of an irresponsible vandal.

Neil Martin himself found the man responsible. "In 1984 1 was in the area helping to put out a fire", he told me. "As I came around the base of the hill, I could hear a noise like someone chipping stone. I walked over to the cleft and found an old Yugoslavian man, chipping the stone with a Sidchrome cold chisel. Because this was national park property, I confiscated the chisel and the man left. Because he was mentally handicapped, we took no further action, but I later gave the chisel to the local historical society. We never saw the old man again."

Source - http://donsmaps.com/hoax.html

So did they keep adding more pictures to the drawings after 1975? come on so clearly not possible.....

Peter

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This site - All Things Woy – has an excellent overview of Kariong hieroglyphs including timeline and supporting documents. Check it out…

There does seem to be an upswing of activity and collaboration among amateur/alternative archaeological groups (I blame the interweb); the subculture is growing and making links with other international cranks so I suggest that you are going to get more Egyptian/Sumerian/Pheonician/whatever claims on this forum.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=223875&st=135

My psychic powers are growing stronger. Soon I too will be able to find and translate bogus hieroglyphs with the power of my mind alone…...

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For some reason ive got a feeling this is feraldan using a new account, just something about the way he writes and of coarse the topic.

I hope im wrong.

Anyway the Kariong Glyphs or Gosford Glyphs have been proven to be a hoax.

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Now, Val Osborne, an amateur archeologist from Australia, says the Phoenicians discovered Down Under and established a trading center near Brisbane on the Queensland coast. A conspiracy theorist, he claims the Australian government has known about this for 40 years but has kept the discoveries quiet for fears of further upsetting Aboriginal sentiments. Osborne claims that the site contains a cemetery, a temple, the remains of port walls and stone sculptures -- several of which, he says, have already ended up in private collections. Gripping stuff. But so far, no one has seen any proof.

http://www.cartage.org.lb/en/themes/GeogHist/histories/Oldcivilization/phoenicia/australia/australia.html

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I wonder if some could at least get their story straight, so who was it? Djoser? Some Phoenician or some son of Khufu? Or all of them on the same boat? Maybe they also took Cleopatra with them.... you know... for the entertainment factor..

Nice work seeing the favorite word Fluffy!

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According to the Dutch Archaeologist, Dr. Reinoud de Jonge, Australia was discovered about 4.600 years ago by the 2nd. King Djoser of the 3rd Dynasty.

Feral Dan claimed, that he found Sumerian or Egyptian Pictographs, the precursor of the Keilschrift at Pyramid Mountain, in North Queensland, which makes perfect sense, because that was the Area, that Dr. de Jonge was refering to.

So, you Mocking Birds, Bleat loudly, because the Kariong Glyphs will spoil yor appetite at mocking any scientist,ever.

I was there when Feral Dan found a hitherto unknown set of Proto-Egyptian glyphs at Kariong, I was there when Jake Cassar found another set at a higher level, and the beauty was, it was in front of a Filmcrew, who recorded it all, but best of all was the discovery by the Author Steve Strong of a hitherto unsuspected above ground chamber, hidden

in the Eastwall of the Kariong Glyph Site.

However, as I translated these Proto Egyptian glyphs discovered by Feral Dan, I know that he is very serious about this matter, and I am proud, that he singlehanded, and despite all the un-scientific mockers around still proceeded.

I have re-translated the glyph by glyp translation of the Proto-Egyptian script at Kariong which is available as a free download of 147 pages of reserarch. To download, go to Google and enter "Ancient Egyptians in Australia, Senff". The second entry will get you the book, including the underground pictures, never seen before.

If you are indeed intested in the truth, and how the so-called scientific academe, perverted the research, whether ascribing it to U.F.O sightings as claimed by the Editor (an Egyptologist)of an Archaeological Journal, or the claims of the Author Steven Spillard (another Egyptologis), that a certain glyph was a dog-bone. However, the glyph he was refering to, is the glypht for Inheritance, (Gardiner) while another one, which he called a Bell is in fact the Symbol for a woodcarving chisel.

While a certain Professor,(again an Egyptologist) states that the glyphs are just modern grafiti, when it is in fact, Australia's oldest known Text, unless Feral Dan's Text from Pyramid Mountain Nth. Queensland proves to be older still, but I cannot be sure, untill I get the pictures from him.

If you want to know more about the Kariong glyphs, download the above Book, it is all research and translate the glyphs yourself, it is not that hard, because the transliteration is given; and then marvel, why Australian Egyptologist failed to translate the text.

Was it because the climb from their Ivory tower was too long and too hard, or was it because the truth hurts? You be the Judge.

Hans-Dieter von Senff, Ph.D.

http://www.donsmaps.com/hoax.html

You're right the truth does hurt.

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In Answer to Peter Cox. Re: Kariong Glyphs.

In answer to Peter Cox, the so-called Research posted on the Internet is based on sloppy research. When I first heard about Kariong, I was dubious,just like every body else. However, once I found the entrance to the Walled Entry, exactly as described by Nefer-Djeseb, and managed to get my son in law, Michael, down the two meter shaft. Michael(with his Back to the Eastwall) pointed out to me that a perfectly formed tunnel was on his left side, so the camera went down and the first picture of the Airshaft was taken and then measured. For me, it was enough, but Michael O'Brien insisted, to go to the bottom of the shaft, where the entrance to the "Ges" (meaning half or side)chamber was found, it was some three meters long, seventy centimeters high and had at the northern end a square drive going about a meter down.. When tested later by Wayne Shipton with an heavy iron bar,the sound was heard on the surface,(Two meters under the Sandstone wall, proving the site was hollow, hence build in a card house fashion out of heavy sand stone plates.

The Pictures, some 90 or hundred, when developed were given to the then Assisting Minister, Carmel Tebutt in 2001, in order to protect the site.

From 2001 til 2006 I worked on my dissertation titled " The Problematic of the German Unity, a linguistic and historical view."

It was read at two Queensland Universities and the Sorbonne, and allowed me to graduate to the Degree of Ph.D..

Having finished that, I began to resurrect my old Hobby Archaeology and in this case it meant: Kariong..., because I came to the conclusion, that the research available, just did not fit.

Let me try to explain what I mean. You do not find archaeological artefacts, without them coming from somewhere. Rex Gilroy wrote about the Phonecians, but they only existed some 1500 years B.C. However, the Egyptians build temples in some cities, like Byblos or Amrit and Tyros about 3100 to 2900 years before Christ; hence these cities where Egyptian Colonies (In order to secure a permanent timber supply) which some thousand years later became Phonecian cities.

About the Glyphs. Ray Johnson, whose Basic Hieroglypia I use by permission of the copyright holder, contains altogether 2.877 Glyphs,which is nearly 4 times the amount that Gardiner, Witthuhn, Budge or Betro uses in their various encyclopeadias, hence I

(being a linguist) have no problem to use them, by a constant cross reference among all Grammars in order to arrive at the correct transliteration.

The Fact, that so far an Air shaft, first discovered by Paul White, the Walled Entry as well as the underground chamber ("Ges")have been photographed and measured proves, why I am sure, that I am on the right track. If you add to this the inscription found by Dan Collins in September last year and add to this another inscription discovered by Jake Cassar, it proves that the so-called previous research does not make sense.

The fact, that the site was first seen by a Journalist as far back as 1955, as well that the glyphs were recarved by Sydney University Archaeology Students in 1964, makes a mockery of Allan Dash's claim, that he seen them in the seventies and he saw them added to. Nonsense.

About the discovery of the rather large above Ground Chamber inside the Eastwall, discovered by Steven Strong. This discovery happened like this: I, facing southwards, Steven stands at the southern End of the Glyphs. The Filmcrew, even lower down, near the southern Enntry to the Site. The conversation went something like this:

Steven: "Hans, and where do you think, they buried Nefer-Ti-Ru (The Priest)?"

Hans: "Let me have a look at the Glyphs. 30 Seconds silence, Then: About one meter behind you, but don't ask me how deep down.!"

Steven: Loking inside the East Wall, "I try to get in there." Finds an entry and disappears. Closely followed by the Camera man, followed by the Director, who wanted, nay needed her Indiana Jones Segment for the film.

And me? Because of my crook leg I had to wait outside, listening to the conversation going on between Steve Strong, the camera man, sound engineer and Director. " About ten meters long, five meters high etc."

After this Nina Angelo and Steve departed for an ABC Radio Interview, and me not wiser, but thinking...

Late in the evening I caught up with Steve and ask him two pertinent questions. No.1. "Where there any Hiroglyphs in the Chamber ?"

Steve: "None whatsoever !!!"

Hans: "Änd what do you think, was the use of this Chamber?"

Steve: Shrugging his shoulder: "Search me, no Idea !!!"

Upon this Answer I reminded Steve of the empty chambers above the Grave Chamber in the Cheops Pyramid build by Khufu (Cheops), to prevent the weight of the Stone Mass above, collapsing the Grave Chamber below.

Steves answer to this guided question was: "Off course, it could not be any other reason'."

All this was communicated to the Minister of the Enviroment, Robyn Parker, the next day, and Peter, believe me, once I rediscover the two large panels in orthodox Hieroglyphs, one in relief, the other engraved, the Minister will be informed forthwith of this discovery,as this is the final proof, that Ancient Egyptians were in fact in Australia, because the orthodox script at Kariong will confound all Egyptologist, who in the past ha hawed the Kariong glyphs as a hoax. Believe me, they are not.

Peter, these are a number of answers to the questions you wanted to know. If you have any more, let me know.

Hans-Dieter von Senff Ph.D.

Edited by The Truth hurts

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According to the Dutch Archaeologist, Dr. Reinoud de Jonge, Australia was discovered about 4.600 years ago by the 2nd. King Djoser of the 3rd Dynasty.

Feral Dan claimed, that he found Sumerian or Egyptian Pictographs, the precursor of the Keilschrift at Pyramid Mountain, in North Queensland, which makes perfect sense, because that was the Area, that Dr. de Jonge was refering to.

So, you Mocking Birds, Bleat loudly, because the Kariong Glyphs will spoil yor appetite at mocking any scientist,ever.

I was there when Feral Dan found a hitherto unknown set of Proto-Egyptian glyphs at Kariong, I was there when Jake Cassar found another set at a higher level, and the beauty was, it was in front of a Filmcrew, who recorded it all, but best of all was the discovery by the Author Steve Strong of a hitherto unsuspected above ground chamber, hidden

in the Eastwall of the Kariong Glyph Site.

However, as I translated these Proto Egyptian glyphs discovered by Feral Dan, I know that he is very serious about this matter, and I am proud, that he singlehanded, and despite all the un-scientific mockers around still proceeded.

I have re-translated the glyph by glyp translation of the Proto-Egyptian script at Kariong which is available as a free download of 147 pages of reserarch. To download, go to Google and enter "Ancient Egyptians in Australia, Senff". The second entry will get you the book, including the underground pictures, never seen before.

If you are indeed intested in the truth, and how the so-called scientific academe, perverted the research, whether ascribing it to U.F.O sightings as claimed by the Editor (an Egyptologist)of an Archaeological Journal, or the claims of the Author Steven Spillard (another Egyptologis), that a certain glyph was a dog-bone. However, the glyph he was refering to, is the glypht for Inheritance, (Gardiner) while another one, which he called a Bell is in fact the Symbol for a woodcarving chisel.

While a certain Professor,(again an Egyptologist) states that the glyphs are just modern grafiti, when it is in fact, Australia's oldest known Text, unless Feral Dan's Text from Pyramid Mountain Nth. Queensland proves to be older still, but I cannot be sure, untill I get the pictures from him.

If you want to know more about the Kariong glyphs, download the above Book, it is all research and translate the glyphs yourself, it is not that hard, because the transliteration is given; and then marvel, why Australian Egyptologist failed to translate the text.

Was it because the climb from their Ivory tower was too long and too hard, or was it because the truth hurts? You be the Judge.

Hans-Dieter von Senff, Ph.D.

The very 1st post i read in this thread. I suggest you gentle man stop calling names and insinuating stuff like bleating etc.

Meaningful debate is what we like in here, without the disharmony.

if you state claims, be prepared to back it up with evidence.

period.

Why didnt your "friend" Dan Collins provide evidence when requested for? Why did he go bonkers saying Farking , freaking etc? why did he blow his top? these are mysteries too.

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You win 1000 internets for your amazing post!

Yes, incredible stuff. You were going to get 10,000 internets, but the condescending attitude really worked against you as did the use of the overworked term "bleating" in reference to people. The repeated use of "hitherto" nearly got you a super-duper daily bonus, but alas, the condescending attitude was too much and overwhelmed any positive aspects of the post.

Good try though, good try.

Points lost also for being unable to link to his PDF and instead asking people to Google for it in order to download it.

Has anyone here bothered to download and read the PDF?

Boy, it's a doozy. I only got a handful of pages into it before deciding it wasn't worth my time going any further. The author goes to great lengths in the introduction to come across as amateurish and adopts the typical anti-establishment attitude of cranks of all sorts, making accusations the establishment of sloppy research and being of low intelligence. I mean seriously, in a paper that's meant to be a scientific treatise on something, starting off by childish accusations and name calling?

The text also desperately needs proof-reading. Just a quick glance at the contents reveals apostrophes used for plurals, poor grammar, random change of text formatting in the contents, random words capitalised in the contents with no consistency, the page number column doesn't need the word "page" consistently repeated, the alignment is all out of whack, etc. The poor quality formatting is inexcusable and the terrible use of English might be excusable if the author didn't have English as a first language, but surely someone with a PhD would understand the need for professionalism and would have either written it in his own language and had it professionally translated or at least have a proof-reader go over it and fix it up into something worthy of publication.

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Your a day late.

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I have to wonder since Aidan Dodson gives the following as the children of Khufu:

Neferetiabet, Kawab, Hetepheres II, Djedefre, Hordjedef, Minkhaf, Babaef A, Meryetyotes II, Bauefre, Khufukhaf I, Meresankh II, Horbaef

Which of these does the OP claim was Nefer-Djeseb and which was Nefer-Ti-Ru? And based on what evidence?

cormac

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Wow - this looks alot like a certain post not to long ago, about a claim of the (he said Egyptian and Sumerian were so closely related that why he says both) i think it was DANIEL someone or the other?

he also claimed he found the glyphs didnt take photos and he translated them in under a day, funny that eh?

While now we have this, please can you provide pics, proof were you learned to translate such said things?

Im sorry to say this but as AWESOME as it would be to believe you, its hard until you have presented real evidence, not a book that makes claims and misreads the fact but EVIDENCE.

Thanks a million

Peter

Sumeria and Egypt are both great examples of early civilization. Both had similar caste systems; those who read or had the ability to write were considered amongst the elite caste. The development of Cuneiform in Sumeria in 3000 BC is comparable to Egypt's development of Hieroglyphs in 3200 BC. Both cultures employed certain symbols in their writing forms, accented with unique markings - often using symbols and accents to describe nouns; places, people, or to detail origin myths that were important to their cultures.

If dating suggests that either of these cultures found Australia - then that was a millenia before they even developed their forms of writing.

Curious.

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Your a day late.

Not quite, about 18,250,000 days late. The first human settlement of Australia was ~50,000 years bp. The Aboriginals discovered Australia.

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