TSS Posted July 11, 2012 #51 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Yes, but this is also the problem - can we really be prepared for EVERY contingency? What would that world look like where every precaution has been taken? Of course we can't, doesn't mean you don't take precautions where possible though. The areas I mentioned along the Essex coast are a stones throw from East London, most of the drugs imported and sold around the South East come through private plane drops from Tilbury docks upwards....miles and miles of fields, barns, and woodland.......to take a chopper and use it as weapon is a no brainer for anyone familiar with that area....to try and at least make someone think twice about doing that is also a no brainer imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSS Posted July 11, 2012 #52 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Its an offensive measure though Sky....we have no need for it.How many men will be required to man these posts?..3 to operate the missile site but how many to protect the ground around it?..you going to position snipers on rooftops around the site to make sure its protected?...you get into silly numbers just for 'peace of mind'.. it gets silly I disagree. Is it a numbers game then, we have possibly millions visiting during the olympics, taking a pretty simple step to try and ensure they go home again with the same number of limbs they arrived with V's dozens or even hundreds of men to try and make sure of that......I don't see the issue to be perfectly honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted July 11, 2012 #53 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Its an offensive measure though Sky....we have no need for it.How many men will be required to man these posts?..3 to operate the missile site but how many to protect the ground around it?..you going to position snipers on rooftops around the site to make sure its protected?...you get into silly numbers just for 'peace of mind'.. it gets silly It's worse than that, Brian, seems you all have similar rules s we in the States. The military can only be deployed in a disaster and even then it's the State militia (national guard) so I read that the troops who can fire these missiles are being guarded by civilian police 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhantomFlanFlinger Posted July 11, 2012 #54 Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) I disagree. Is it a numbers game then, we have possibly millions visiting during the olympics, taking a pretty simple step to try and ensure they go home again with the same number of limbs they arrived with V's dozens or even hundreds of men to try and make sure of that......I don't see the issue to be perfectly honest. No probs Sky..im not going to fall out with you mate....we have far easier methods but we will disagree,so be it..will say..do you understand the logistical background? Edited July 11, 2012 by BrianPotter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSS Posted July 11, 2012 #55 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Not probs Sky..im not going to fall out with you mate....we have far easier methods but we will disagree,so be it.. Hey no worries, it's all good with me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted July 11, 2012 #56 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Awwww.... how sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super-Fly Posted July 11, 2012 #57 Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) Whatever, we have no say in it, no matter how backwards it all seems. Shame, but still, at least i can nail some G&T's in the capitol, with complete peace of mind! three cheers, maybe? Thanks, Edited July 11, 2012 by Super-Fly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhantomFlanFlinger Posted July 11, 2012 #58 Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) Awwww.... how sweet. Are you being silly on purpose or was it a lifestyle choice..? edit to add..was being silly myself... Edited July 11, 2012 by BrianPotter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSS Posted July 11, 2012 #59 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Are you being silly on purpose or was it a lifestyle choice..? Don't be to harsh Brian, a lot of thought went into that mind blowing contribution! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhantomFlanFlinger Posted July 11, 2012 #60 Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) Don't be to harsh Brian, a lot of thought went into that mind blowing contribution! Don't be to harsh Brian, a lot of thought went into that mind blowing contribution! lol...aye...you are not wrong.. Edited July 11, 2012 by BrianPotter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted July 11, 2012 #61 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Don't be to harsh Brian, a lot of thought went into that mind blowing contribution! Yeah, but it sure was fun. Towards the issue, did anyone think how ridiculous and dangerous it is to have rooftop anti-aircraft missiles guarded by unarmed military and a few pistol-wielding cops? Come on! What if a terrorist with an AK-47 takes over just one of those sites? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taun Posted July 11, 2012 #62 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Yeah, but it sure was fun. Towards the issue, did anyone think how ridiculous and dangerous it is to have rooftop anti-aircraft missiles guarded by unarmed military and a few pistol-wielding cops? Come on! What if a terrorist with an AK-47 takes over just one of those sites? If it's like in the States - we have the Passe Comitatus laws (probably spelled wrong but oh well)... The military is expressly forbidden to 'police' the general population - hence the 'no small arms' and the need for armed security (police)... not sure how they get around the 'no heavy weapons' bit... but.. .oh well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastLazyGun Posted July 11, 2012 #63 Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) Yeah, but it sure was fun. Towards the issue, did anyone think how ridiculous and dangerous it is to have rooftop anti-aircraft missiles guarded by unarmed military and a few pistol-wielding cops? Come on! What if a terrorist with an AK-47 takes over just one of those sites? Thank God that judge who ruled against the protesting residents doesn't have such dangerous and ignorant views as you have, otherwise the thousands of people - spectators and athletes - who attend the London Olympics will not be anywhere near as sufficiently protected against terrorism as they should be. The High Court judge who yeterday ruled that the residents do not have an answerable case stated that they had been under 'something of a misapprehension' about the nature of the equipment to be deployed and the risks deployment would bring. It seems there are several people on this thread who the judge could say the same about. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2171497/Tower-block-residents-lose-High-Court-bid-stop-Army-placing-surface-air-missiles-roof-protect-Olympic-Games.html#ixzz20KxOP1Os Edited July 11, 2012 by TheLastLazyGun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastLazyGun Posted July 11, 2012 #64 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Its an offensive measure though Sky....we have no need for it. No? If that's the case then what should we do should Al Qaeda attempt to fly a passenger jet into a full-capacity Olympic Stadium? Squirt water pistols at it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted July 11, 2012 #65 Share Posted July 11, 2012 You know, it's such a sad state-of-affairs that current Olympics can not be held without extraordinary security. There was a time, many years ago, that warring nations agreed to not mess with the Olympic games. What the hell happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastLazyGun Posted July 11, 2012 #66 Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) http://www.guardian....s-olympic-games it's sad how England is the next to fall so heavily in the terrorism hype. They're already so close to being the next America. Yeah. 9/11. 7/7. Mumbai. Madrid. Bali. Beslan. Oklahoma City. King David Hotel. Lockerbie. Omagh. USS Cole. Munich. It's all just hype, isn't it? Edited July 11, 2012 by TheLastLazyGun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babe Ruth Posted July 11, 2012 #67 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Funny--the best the Brits have been able to come up with so far in the War On Terror is a couple of losers with flammable material in their underwear and shoes. Now they anticipate them flying the best attack bombers available on the world market. Or has the theater in Britain become public policy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted July 11, 2012 #68 Share Posted July 11, 2012 No? If that's the case then what should we do should Al Qaeda attempt to fly a passenger jet into a full-capacity Olympic Stadium? Squirt water pistols at it? So it's going to be shot down over the event killing as many as it would have if they did nothing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babe Ruth Posted July 11, 2012 #69 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Yeah. 9/11. 7/7. Mumbai. Madrid. Bali. Beslan. Oklahoma City. King David Hotel. Lockerbie. Omagh. USS Cole. Munich. It's all just hype, isn't it? Yes it is hype. I think a more accurate description would be "fear-mongering". False Flag operations might apply to several of those you listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastLazyGun Posted July 11, 2012 #70 Share Posted July 11, 2012 You know, it's such a sad state-of-affairs that current Olympics can not be held without extraordinary security. There was a time, many years ago, that warring nations agreed to not mess with the Olympic games. What the hell happened? You can't take any chances. Look what happened during the 1996 Atlanta Olympics and the 1972 Munich Olympics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babe Ruth Posted July 11, 2012 #71 Share Posted July 11, 2012 You can't take any chances. Look what happened during the 1996 Atlanta Olympics and the 1972 Munich Olympics? You sound like Dick Cheney with his 1% Doctrine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastLazyGun Posted July 11, 2012 #72 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Yes it is hype. I think a more accurate description would be "fear-mongering". False Flag operations might apply to several of those you listed. That's just the type of lunacy and bizareness we expect from you weird Lefties. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted July 11, 2012 #73 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Thank God that judge who ruled against the protesting residents doesn't have such dangerous and ignorant views as you have, otherwise the thousands of people - spectators and athletes - who attend the London Olympics will not be anywhere near as sufficiently protected against terrorism as they should be. The High Court judge who yeterday ruled that the residents do not have an answerable case stated that they had been under 'something of a misapprehension' about the nature of the equipment to be deployed and the risks deployment would bring. It seems there are several people on this thread who the judge could say the same about. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2171497/Tower-block-residents-lose-High-Court-bid-stop-Army-placing-surface-air-missiles-roof-protect-Olympic-Games.html#ixzz20KxOP1Os Hey, I was talking about the bull**** perimeter security for those rooftop anti-aircraft missiles, not that they're not needed. Read the entire thread before you blast someone like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastLazyGun Posted July 11, 2012 #74 Share Posted July 11, 2012 So it's going to be shot down over the event killing as many as it would have if they did nothing? No. You try to shoot it down before it gets anywhere near the Olympic Stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSS Posted July 11, 2012 #75 Share Posted July 11, 2012 So it's going to be shot down over the event killing as many as it would have if they did nothing? Why would you wait until it gets over the stadium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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