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Crop Circles

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People aren't as creative when they make crop circles as they used to be.

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So true!

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They're all man made. I used to make them and know many people who make the real complex ones. It' moved beyond a prank and into an artform a long time ago. A few circle makers have been on TV and exposing it, but most like to keep it a mystery, because that's what give their art the attention.

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They're all man made. I used to make them and know many people who make the real complex ones. It' moved beyond a prank and into an artform a long time ago. A few circle makers have been on TV and exposing it, but most like to keep it a mystery, because that's what give their art the attention.

Extremely difficult to support this hypothesis and it comes across as just another blatant attempt at dismissal.

Impossible to explain are these issues associated with some formations:

1) Damage to stems impossible to recreate by stomping. Evidence of intense energy in the microwave spectrum causing stem damage.

2) Inexplicable EM readings inside formations. Definite static effects can be experienced.

3) Time frame required to create some circles means that they cannot be man made. Local farmers have seen blank fields then an hour later an impossibly complex formation with no trace of intrusion. This has also occured during inclement weather when traces would be discernable (mud etc).

4) Some formations are made by only affecting the very top of the crops; the whole crop down to the stems has not been bent. How is this possible.

5) Strange light phenomena appearing before circles are made.

This could go on but I'll stop here. Crop circle experts do fully accept that hoaxers or 'artists' are busy at work. These are easy to spot by looking carefully at the nature of damage to the stems and certain other features, I recommend doing your own research and keeping an open mind. As with the UFO phenomena there are those who have a deep vested interest in making mocking bird of the whole thing; the best way to do this is to claim that it is the work of man. Just like UFO's; it's nothing new.

Z

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Extremely difficult to support this hypothesis and it comes across as just another blatant attempt at dismissal.

Impossible to explain are these issues associated with some formations:

1) Damage to stems impossible to recreate by stomping. Evidence of intense energy in the microwave spectrum causing stem damage. What evidence of this? Popped corn kernals everywhere. Absolute tosh.

2) Inexplicable EM readings inside formations. Definite static effects can be experienced. You get those in very random places, all over the world, not just in crop circles. And not in all crop circles.

3) Time frame required to create some circles means that they cannot be man made. Local farmers have seen blank fields then an hour later an impossibly complex formation with no trace of intrusion. This has also occured during inclement weather when traces would be discernable (mud etc.) Ever been inside a crop field? Its very difficult to see anything on the ground. Now time wise: That is absolute rubbish. Either the farmer is lieing or mistaken.

4) Some formations are made by only affecting the very top of the crops; the whole crop down to the stems has not been bent. How is this possible. Proof of this?

5) Strange light phenomena appearing before circles are made. Magic, because thats what you seem to think is an acceptable answer.

This could go on but I'll stop here. Crop circle experts do fully accept that hoaxers or 'artists' are busy at work. These are easy to spot by looking carefully at the nature of damage to the stems and certain other features, I recommend doing your own research and keeping an open mind. As with the UFO phenomena there are those who have a deep vested interest in making mocking bird of the whole thing; the best way to do this is to claim that it is the work of man. Just like UFO's; it's nothing new.

Z

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The only crop circles I think might possible be real, or rather created by something other than humans are the plain round ones. Anything other than that are people with too much time on their hands. Besides so many have come forward and "confessed" to making them and allowed their handy work to be filmed.......and yet people still want to believe in them.

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Watch this carefully; listen to the testimonies. This is one of dozens of such reports. There is a famous hoax on youtube on this particular topic, and once again the mystery is shrouded in controversy because of pranksters. However it by no means detracts from the real evidence.

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Highly recommended viewing; a fresh insight into the subject bringing to light latest research:

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Damage to stems impossible to recreate by stomping. Evidence of intense energy in the microwave spectrum causing stem damage. What evidence of this? Popped corn kernals everywhere. Absolute tosh.

It's actually quite well-known amongst those who study crop circles that some unexplainable changes take place within the crops. I once saw a documentary on TV about it too.

Unexplainable Changes to the Plants

The plants inside crop circles are changed in a way that is beyond human ability.

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Figure 1. Straight and bent nodes.

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Figure 2. Control sample from outside a crop circle.

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Figure 3. Sample from inside a crop circle.

Figure 1 above is a photograph showing a normal plant stem and a stem found bent in a crop formation. The bent node of the plant from inside a crop formation is elongated yet undamaged. Plant stems bent by people via mechanical means appear damaged and do not have the elongated nodes.

Figures 2 and 3 above are photographs demonstrating the microscopic changes in a plant inside a crop circle compared to a control sample taken from the same field.

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Figure 4. Normal nodes.

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Figure 5. Blown nodes.

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Figure 6. Blown nodes.

Plants inside crop formations often have "blown nodes." Figure 4 above is a photograph of the normal nodes of plants taken from outside of a crop formation. Figure 5 above is a photograph of the blown nodes of plants found inside the crop formation. Figure 6 is another example of the blown nodes of plants taken from inside a crop formation.

Other changes to the plants have been reported by Dr. W.C. Levengood and his BLT team, including stunted seed-heads, cell-wall pit enlargement, and expulsion cavities. See:

http://www.bltresearch.com/

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They're all man made. I used to make them and know many people who make the real complex ones. It' moved beyond a prank and into an artform a long time ago. A few circle makers have been on TV and exposing it, but most like to keep it a mystery, because that's what give their art the attention.

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Crops circles are to UFOology what Orbs are to ghost hunters - So debunked that its not funny any more.

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Crops circles are to UFOology what Orbs are to ghost hunters - So debunked that its not funny any more.

Take a look a the new documentary; you will soon realise why this kind of thinking is pure fallacy. Trust me it's worth watching.

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All the socalled crop circle phenomena have been explained to boredom.

And the 'flying orbs' video was created by someone on a computer.

Just go to YouTube, and you will see footage of people creating the most intricate 'crop circles'.

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Yeah, crop circles are basically an artform IMO.

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Who was hoaxing crop circles in 1678, when people couldn't even get arial photograph of their art?

Of course people are hoaxing or "creating art", but what came first, circles or hoaxers?

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Who was hoaxing crop circles in 1678, when people couldn't even get arial photograph of their art?

Of course people are hoaxing or "creating art", but what came first, circles or hoaxers?

Thats a tough one ! THe Hoaxer came first ! Its hard to prove ,but If one just takes just a few min`s to Look at us Now, and replay back to the early days of man`s tricks ITs easy to see where this would go !

Bam-Bam and Pebbles were out in the back yard making Woopie, and rolling around and such, Fred and Willma were no doubt at it in the Man cave. ANd the next morning when the T-Rex milkman was delivering the Milk noticed the Intregret designs in the back yard !

One may ask what the Milk man was doing in the back yard so early ? But Dont get Willma in trouble, Fred`s been at work for Hours by this time.

So See ITs simple to See ! Its was all a bunch of Hankie-Pankie ! :innocent::clap:

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Thats a tough one ! THe Hoaxer came first ! Its hard to prove ,but If one just takes just a few min`s to Look at us Now, and replay back to the early days of man`s tricks ITs easy to see where this would go !

Bam-Bam and Pebbles were out in the back yard making Woopie, and rolling around and such, Fred and Willma were no doubt at it in the Man cave. ANd the next morning when the T-Rex milkman was delivering the Milk noticed the Intregret designs in the back yard !

One may ask what the Milk man was doing in the back yard so early ? But Dont get Willma in trouble, Fred`s been at work for Hours by this time.

So See ITs simple to See ! Its was all a bunch of Hankie-Pankie ! :innocent::clap:

What did you make of the documentary covering the latest research?

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Trust me it's worth watching.

Comming from you, one of the most credulous of believers,... no offence, but I think Ill pass.

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Comming from you, one of the most credulous of believers,... no offence, but I think Ill pass.

^ what he said

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Remote Viewer, don't even waste your breath. They will believe whatever makes them feel safe. There are plenty of us who take them seriously, as we do UFOs and other phenomena that we have had first hand proof of. It's the mentality presented here that inspires hoaxes, born of fear, and defended by ignorance.

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Remote Viewer, don't even waste your breath. They will believe whatever makes them feel safe. There are plenty of us who take them seriously, as we do UFOs and other phenomena that we have had first hand proof of. It's the mentality presented here that inspires hoaxes, born of fear, and defended by ignorance.

pssst... his name is zoser...

I mean, your name isn't Alien Embryo is it? :tu:

I must say though, you've struck my curiosity! :yes: Do you have any first hand proof for any of this?

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What did you make of the documentary covering the latest research?

Its very A-Typical of T.V. for the masses ! Without actual scientific proof, and research to back it all up ITs like most things all for the Tube of consumption!

But you have to enjoy watching all these shows,it keeps us wanting more. :clap:

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pssst... his name is zoser...

I mean, your name isn't Alien Embryo is it? :tu:

I must say though, you've struck my curiosity! :yes: Do you have any first hand proof for any of this?

I want to know too! What is your proof if any?

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It's actually quite well-known amongst those who study crop circles that some unexplainable changes take place within the crops. I once saw a documentary on TV about it too. See: http://www.bltresearch.com/

These "unexplainable changes" are not unexplainable. And as far as I'm concerned, most of these "researchers" are either to biased to see the truth, or outright lieing, because afterall it is their profession. Coming out with findings that there is no mystery would be the end to their job/hobby. If people would actually question the research, and do their own UNBIASED research, they'll find that blown-bent-elongated nodes, and bent stems is a 100% natural phenomin found in MAN MADE CIRCLES and has nothing to do with the supernatural, microwaves, magnetism, or energy, etc.

LOL just look at their BLTs associating with psychic fraud/hoaxer Robert van den brooke: http://www.bltresear...t/ufophotos.php His UFO photos are all fake, I've made several myself, they're just objects really close to the camera. I'm not a debunker, I used to be a hardcore believer myself, but I started doing my own research. Pretty much all evidence for it being supernatural, is explainable. Here's on the topic of plant changes:

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