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[Merged] Did we land on the moon?

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Turbo has been bringing forward very important issues here.USSR was far-ahead in space race with USA ...yet they decided to focus on low earth orbits and practicing space station's maintenance since 80s,they knew it is almost impossible to send human in deeper space.they had been working on MARS-500 simulation program 2 years ago (total isolation of crew)...when it was asked the possibility to use it to send human to the mars , incharge of mission said "there is no such a program and equepments to achive this task"...at least they don't lie... if you ask NASA ...they are going tomorrow to the Mars, though they can't even send men to the international space station without help of russian SL-4 Soyuz rocket.

Please... make the stupid stop... :(

Cz

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Rajeev, first you COMPLETELY IGNORE all the excellent explanations given to you about 'weightlessness', and then you add the following and complain about us?

I'll address your post's 'content', but this will probably be the last time if you do not debate in good faith.

Turbo has been bringing forward very important issues here.

No, he hasn't, and it seems your opinion is not widely held. If you are an expert in this field, can you please outline which of his claims is the most compelling. I dearly, dearly hope that what you put in this post is not in order of your perceived importance. If it is, you need to pick a hobby that you have some understanding of.

USSR was far-ahead in space race with USA ...

That is completely incorrect. Yes, they just got the first satellite up and the first person in orbit BY A VERY SHORT MARGIN. However, their space program very obviously took huge risks and shortcuts to get where it was. That FACT was very clearly demonstrated by the number of failed launches (both then and since, and many of which were covered up) and then was laid bare to the world when their attempt to engage in the race to the Moon simply fell apart, mostly because of the disastrous N-1 rocket which was their only viable method of getting such a mission aloft.

They LOST the race to the Moon. They monitored the Apollo program carefully but were unable to learn enough to duplicate it. They also monitored the actual missions and then congratulated the US on making it. What is it about all that, that you missed?

they knew it is almost impossible to send human in deeper space.

First up, I note you threw in the weasel word 'almost', and then changed to topic to 'deep space'. Nice try, but obvious... Anyway, BACK UP that statement. SHOW where ANY Russian (or any other) reputable scientist has said that a MOON mission of Apollo duration was impossible. We are NOT talking about a long, deep space mission, so don't try throwing in those weasel words to try to scam people.

Show the evidence that they thought APOLLO was impossible or WITHDRAW that claim. If you do not, then you are clearly not debating in good faith.

when it was asked the possibility to use it to send human to the mars , incharge of mission said "there is no such a program and equepments to achive this task"

As I stated above this thread is about the MOON missions - changing the topic is DECEPTIVE and you know it. If not, then you clearly don't understand the IMMENSE difference between Lunar and Mars missions. So which is it - are you being deceptive or do you simply not know much about space missions? There's no shame in that - I know very little about quantum physics, which is why I don't post my ignorance on QP forums..

Anyway, CITE these statements you are quoting and let's look at them IN CONTEXT, shall we?

And then you can explain to everyone what you now understand by the term 'changing the goal posts'..

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My last posts were not addressed. That spoke volumes to me..

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Please... make the stupid stop... :(

Cz

Seriously - you didn't expect anything different, did you?

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Nor do trolls.

If i'm correct, this is your last post. What should we address here?

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I hear ya Czero101 ! But its fun to read how peopl can be so crazy on a subject like the Moon Landings,Knowing good and well we did Go ,We did land,We did come back,with factual proof,ROCKS, Photos,Dirt ! ITs all in the Dirt !

Where could one go so far off base to believe otherwise?

Oh !Oh! its the Drugs on earth that do that to these people ! No we know ! Remember that THe Secret Socities that are so Real and Secret are watching you every night ! THe Walls have eyes.

There that may keep some of them off the streets a bit ! :whistle:

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Rajeev, when will you be returning to properly address the topic of 'weightlessness' and to cite your claim that scientists said Apollo (NOT a 'deep space' mission) was not possible?

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Heres a Greatr one ! :tu:

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My last posts were not addressed. That spoke volumes to me..

Your points were answered and sufficiently explained five years ago. you have not added anything beyond silly repetitions since then...

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Edited by rambaldi
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My last posts were not addressed. That spoke volumes to me..

I'm convinced that a lot of things speak to you.

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Turbo has been bringing forward very important issues here.USSR was far-ahead in space race with USA ..

As it has been repeatedly explained, no they were not, they even had to cheat during Gagarin's landing.

Of course if you would like to finally enter a meaningful discussion (not that i expect that of you) you could try to explain what advantages the Soviets had after Gemini...

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As it has been repeatedly explained, no they were not, they even had to cheat during Gagarin's landing.

Of course if you would like to finally enter a meaningful discussion (not that i expect that of you) you could try to explain what advantages the Soviets had after Gemini...

(tumbleweeds roll by....)

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(tumbleweeds roll by....)

He must be having "internet connection problems" again... *WINK WINK*

:rolleyes:

Cz

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He must be having "internet connection problems" again... *WINK WINK*

Must be the CIA, FBI, NSA, NASA, CSI, NCIS, CBI, NWO, SGC, SD6, CTU, MI6, CI5, BND, BMW, MOSSAD, KGB, GRU, SMERSH, SPECTRE and probably the Lords Varys and Baelish, who all conspire to prevent him from finally delivering actual proof.

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Turbo has been bringing forward very important issues here.USSR was far-ahead in space race with USA ...

Then, why did they lose the race with the United States to send a man to the moon? The Russians didn't have the technology to send a man to the moon.

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Then, why did they lose the race with the United States to send a man to the moon?

Doh! Because the evil conspiracist from the jewish illuminated reptiloid, who are secretly in control of the USA cheated (and bribed the USSR with wheat)...

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Hard line CTs normally don't like to research their subjects too deeply in case it brings up evidence that contradicts their beliefs. For example, anyone who had read Boris Chertok's memoirs on the Soviet space programme (Rockets & People) would be under no illusions regarding the effort put into the Soviet lunar programme nor the reasons for its failure.

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If i'm correct, this is your last post. What should we address here?

I said my last posts were not addressed. This isn't hard to figure out.

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Your points were answered and sufficiently explained five years ago. you have not added anything beyond silly repetitions since then...

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No, I'm referring to my posts on page 24 - #1846, 1847, and 1848.

I suggest you read them before you make an uninformed reply like the above.

And I'm still waiting to hear from my long-time accuser, flyingswan What about it?

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I'm convinced that a lot of things speak to you.

I'd much prefer mature people speaking to me. It's a little harsh to call the other people "things", though! :-*

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Doh! Because the evil conspiracist from the jewish illuminated reptiloid, who are secretly in control of the USA cheated (and bribed the USSR with wheat)...

But, I thought that it was because we promised to sign a contract to supply regular shipments of vodka to Alcoholics Anonymous.

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But, I thought that it was because we promised to sign a contract to supply regular shipments of vodka to Alcoholics Anonymous.

Skyeagle we better give in Babe,and the others all have way too much proof,that we didnt go to the Moon. So we can tell them now that they are all right and the Entire Mass of NASA employes can forget the Grand things they really did to Get Man on the surface of the moon ! Now we can get back to the Important stuff ! Like How are we going to Get Rick Perry outta Office?

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Skyeagle we better give in Babe,and the others all have way too much proof,that we didnt go to the Moon. So we can tell them now that they are all right and the Entire Mass of NASA employes can forget the Grand things they really did to Get Man on the surface of the moon ! Now we can get back to the Important stuff ! Like How are we going to Get Rick Perry outta Office?

I heard that! The moon is nothing more than an illusion, so there was nothing for the Apollo astronauts to visit since they could not have landed on an illusion..

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Rajeev, when will you be returning to properly address the topic of 'weightlessness' and to cite your claim that scientists said Apollo (NOT a 'deep space' mission) was not possible?

Rajeev, not suprisingly, has not replied.

And I would invite anyone who thinks it would be worthwhile to debate this topic with Rajeev, to take a long hard look here:

http://www.unexplain...ic=183747&st=90

Note how he dodges and weaves, and refuses not only to post a link, but also completely ignores absolute and complete refutations of the many false claims he made. Notably, look here at this excellent post by the late and sadly missed MID, which shows the extent of Rajeev's deceptions.

That is the sort of person who is left denying Apollo. Shame on them.

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No, I'm referring to my posts on page 24 - #1846, 1847, and 1848.

I suggest you read them before you make an uninformed reply like the above.

And I'm still waiting to hear from my long-time accuser, flyingswan What about it?

If you go back to the original thread, here:

http://www.unexplain...90#entry1684326

rather than your selective repeat of it in this thread, you'll see the problem. You made a post with a fabricated quote which you ascribed to NASA. Mid queried another aspect of your post and you replied, six days after the original post, saying it was "mostly" tongue in cheek. At that point I queried the specific quote and you admitted that you had made it up. I accused you of trolling and Waspie, with his mod's hat on, said you had effectively admitted to lying.

In other words, you let your fabricated quote stand for several days and didn't admit that you were, uncharacteristically, jesting until others queried your post.

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