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Oera Linda Book and the Great Flood [Part 2]

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Ny Hellenia (New and Hel): New Moon

Maybe also a connection with Hel (incline, bending) is that Nyhellenia can be linked with the new and crescent moon.

Ny: new

Hel-ene: moon, because bending (hellend). On top the word moon (maan in dutch) is possibly connected with the verb 'manen' (to make remember, to urge, to reprimand, warn, ...).

So also the moon makes us remember and help to follow the point in time and act on it (fe agriculture and helpfull tool in time keeping and predicting eb/flood).

'Ze maant ons aan'. She helps us to remember/urges to do the right things on the right moment -> see how Ny-hellenia in OLB is described as giving new and fresh/bright advice to the people.

And how strange the manes of a horse can be explained with the same: you guide the horse with his manes, urge the horse to follow a certain route.

Even stranger (or natural mirror) is that the manes of a horse are right on his neck, that also can mean bending like the moon.

So here comes together neck-maan-moon-hellenia

And hellenia of course is with skipping the 'H' in front just the luna.

Stemming from an Italic moon goddess *Meneswā ('She who measures'), the Etruscans adopted the inherited Old Latin name, *Menerwā, thereby calling her Menrva. It is assumed that her Roman name, Minerva, is based on this Etruscan mythology, Minerva was the goddess of wisdom, war, art, schools and commerce. She was the Etruscan counterpart to Greek Athena. Like Athena, Minerva was born from the head of her father, Jupiter (Greek Zeus).

By a process of folk etymology, the Romans could have linked her foreign name to the root men- in Latin words such as mens meaning "mind", perhaps because one of her aspects as goddess pertained to the intellectual. The word mens is built from the Proto-Indo-European root *men- 'mind' (linked with memory as in Greek Mnemosyne/μνημοσύνη and mnestis/μνῆστις: memory, remembrance, recollection, manush in Sanskrit meaning mind).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minerva

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Well, maybe 'cloud' is actually the right translation and not so terrible after all. Because they have it as English translation is what makes me think it's correct, it's some known Old English word for cloud, so Sandbach has translated it as such, for sure. Since the OLB has several spellings for individual words, generally as time goes on, it is not that surprising to see it spelt in various forms, from ulk to wolka.

Not that she actually came in a cloud, but the priests were able to create this impression from the ability to use that context from the same word, imo and what the paragraph is saying. root:blow

Thâ to tha lesta spraek tongar ut-a wolka aend blixen schrêf an thaet loftrvm, wâk.

then at length thunder burst from the clouds, and the lightning wrote upon the firmament “Watch!”

Hêl thene sümer was svnne aeftere wolkum skolen, as wilde hja irtha navt ne sja.

During the whole summer the sun had been hid behind the clouds, as if unwilling to look upon the earth.

wolken 6, wulken, wolk-en, wulk-en, afries., st. N. (a): nhd. Wolke; ne. cloud (N.); Hw.: vgl. an. wolcen, as. wolkan*, ahd. wolkan*; Q.: S, E, W; E.: germ. *wulkana-, *wulkanaz, st. M. (a), Wolke; germ. *wulkana-, *wulkanam, st. N. (a), Wolke; vgl. idg. *u̯elk- (2), *u̯elg-, Adj., feucht, nass, Pokorny 1145; W.: nfries. wolcke; W.: saterl. wolce; L.: Hh 132b, Rh 1158a

There, you posted it: WOLKA. Every word of that quote starts with a -W-.

Not ULK.

A HULK was some kind of freight carrier. The -H- dropped of in the sentence I quoted.

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Again, LUMKA-MAKIA.

It was supposed to be located near the mouth of the Ee, or the "E-mude", as it is called in the OLB.

Now every translation tells us that "E-mude" is Emden/Embden in Northern Germany.

But that city is near the mouth of the Eems/Ems, not near some river called "Ee".

Even the Romans called the Ems "Amisa", "Amisu", and so on.

If the OLB had wanted us to believe LUMKA-MAKIA was near the mouth of the Ems, it would have said something like "Amisia-muda".

Not "E-muda".

From Wiki:

The exact founding date of Emden is unknown, but it has existed at least since the 8th century. Older names for Emden are Amuthon, Embda, Emda, and Embden. Town privilege and the town's coat of arms, the Engelke up de Muer (The Little Angel on the Wall) was granted by Emperor Maximilian II in 1495.

As you can see, every old name of Emden has an -M- in it.

The Ems was known to several ancient authors: Pliny the Elder in Natural History (4.14), Tacitus in the Annals (Book 1), Pomponius Mela (3.3), Strabo and Ptolemy, Geography (2.10). Ptolemy's name for it was the Amisios potamos, and in Latin Amisius fluvius. The others used the same, or Amisia, or Amasia or Amasios. The identification is certain, as it always is listed between the Rhine and the Weser, and was the only river leading to the Teutoburg Forest.

And, like I already said, there are locations near a river called Ee:

Lemmer/Lemsterbroek (in Friesland). Or Odense, near the river Ae. And Odense happens to be the place Odin was born, according to legend.

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There, you posted it: WOLKA. Every word of that quote starts with a -W-.

Not ULK.

A HULK was some kind of freight carrier. The -H- dropped of in the sentence I quoted.

I posted it to show that ulk is clearly in wolka variants, like wulka.

A hulk is a wulk is all bulk.

I'm thinking the priests manipulated the meaning so as to give her more goddess appeal and that ulk was once a short term for cloud, as a bulky mass, which is obviously the root stem of wulka/wolka.

The OLB has variant spellings of same words everywhere.

Is the word ulk used elsewhere for ship/hulk?

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I was looking more into the Finn’s of the Finda.

Finda are described to be mostly wild, I think can be interpreted as not really sedentair: asiatic steppe people (Mongols, Huns, Tartars, …).

Finns as a settled (and not so wild) part of Finda in the back of Skênland.

Mostly translated as Scandinavia in general, but can be Skaene Län (southern part of Sweden) in particular?

Finnveden lays directly in her back, could be stretched out untill Finland.

Sparsely populated because new land, Finland is still today one of the countries growing year after year. Probably most of Scandinavia could be rather new emerged land of the same process like OLB narrates. How old is the history of Scandinavia in fact?

Upsalanda (Upsala) as a center of the Magyar Finns, people proud/strict (FIN) on their sinister bloody festivals. Upsala is known as religious center also in later times.

I think about OLB FINNS as GOTHICS. Can you see a smile on their face? :-)

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Nice 6-spoke wheel indeed.

800px-Newspaper_Rock_closeup.jpg

Some of the characters look like bigfoot. And look at those enormous, flat-footed footprints. Normally human footprints have an arch.

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I was looking more into the Finn’s of the Finda.

Finda are described to be mostly wild, I think can be interpreted as not really sedentair: asiatic steppe people (Mongols, Huns, Tartars, …).

Finns as a settled (and not so wild) part of Finda in the back of Skênland.

Mostly translated as Scandinavia in general, but can be Skaene Län (southern part of Sweden) in particular?

Finnveden lays directly in her back, could be stretched out untill Finland.

Sparsely populated because new land, Finland is still today one of the countries growing year after year. Probably most of Scandinavia could be rather new emerged land of the same process like OLB narrates. How old is the history of Scandinavia in fact?

Upsalanda (Upsala) as a center of the Magyar Finns, people proud/strict (FIN) on their sinister bloody festivals. Upsala is known as religious center also in later times.

I think about OLB FINNS as GOTHICS. Can you see a smile on their face? :-)

Hmm Gothics hey? Interesting spin and rather logical to think about actually. I'll investigate further. :tu:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenni

The Fenni are first mentioned by Cornelius Tacitus in Germania in 98 A.D. Their location is uncertain, due to the vagueness of Tacitus' account:"they (Venedi) overrun in their predatory excursions all the woody and mountainous tracts between the Peucini and the Fenni".[1][2] The Greco-Roman geographer Ptolemy, who produced his Geographia in ca. 150 AD, mentions a people called the Phinnoi, generally believed to be synonymous with the Fenni. He locates them in two different areas: a northern group in northern Scandia (Scandinavia), then believed to be an island; and a southern group, apparently dwelling to the East of the upper Vistula river (SE Poland).[3] It remains unclear what was the relationship between the two groups.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goths

Pliny[26] recounts a report of Pytheas, an explorer who visited Northern Europe in the 4th century BC., that the "Gutones, a people of Germany," inhabit the shores of an estuary of at least 6,000 stadia called Mentonomon (i.e., the Baltic Sea), where amber is cast up by the waves.

The Roman empire, under Hadrian showing the location of the Gothones East Germanic group, then inhabiting the east bank of the Visula (Vistula) river, Poland

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For what it's worth:

[...] while at the same time [1919], the incredibly powerful Thule Society were performing magical rituals and running guns from the Four Seasons Hotel in Munich in order to manifest the several decades-old spell of creating the Fraja Christus who would save Germany; a prediction which had been made by German artists and instinctual magicians such as the composer Richard Wagner and which came to pass when a young Austrian named Adolf Hitler walked into a pub on The Tal in central Munich and delivered a speech which literally spellbound members of the early German Workers Party (later to become the Nazis).

Source: Thomas Sheridan official blog

The Aryans, said Liebenfels, worshipped the god Fraja Christus (a Gothic name for Jesus) who demanded the sacrificial slaughter of the sub-humans to purify the world.

Source: "Nazis and the Occult", Paul Roland (2007)

I found more references, but no original source (like "Ostara" Magazine) from that time.

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Well, maybe 'cloud' is actually the right translation and not so terrible after all. Because they have it as English translation is what makes me think it's correct, it's some known Old English word for cloud, so Sandbach has translated it as such, for sure. Since the OLB has several spellings for individual words, generally as time goes on, it is not that surprising to see it spelt in various forms, from ulk to wolka.

Not that she actually came in a cloud, but the priests were able to create this impression from the ability to use that context from the same word, imo and what the paragraph is saying. root:blow

Thâ to tha lesta spraek tongar ut-a wolka aend blixen schrêf an thaet loftrvm, wâk.

then at length thunder burst from the clouds, and the lightning wrote upon the firmament “Watch!”

Hêl thene sümer was svnne aeftere wolkum skolen, as wilde hja irtha navt ne sja.

During the whole summer the sun had been hid behind the clouds, as if unwilling to look upon the earth.

wolken 6, wulken, wolk-en, wulk-en, afries., st. N. (a): nhd. Wolke; ne. cloud (N.); Hw.: vgl. an. wolcen, as. wolkan*, ahd. wolkan*; Q.: S, E, W; E.: germ. *wulkana-, *wulkanaz, st. M. (a), Wolke; germ. *wulkana-, *wulkanam, st. N. (a), Wolke; vgl. idg. *u̯elk- (2), *u̯elg-, Adj., feucht, nass, Pokorny 1145; W.: nfries. wolcke; W.: saterl. wolce; L.: Hh 132b, Rh 1158a

No, the Old English word for cloud is "wuolcan" (see also Etymologyonline) or something, but starting with an -W-

Both times in the OLB, when the OLB mentions real clouds, it uses a word starting with a -W-.

Btw, she came over the sea in a cloud... why not over land? Would have made the trip quite a bit shorter.

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... to manifest the several decades-old spell of creating the Fraja Christus who would save Germany...

Source: Thomas Sheridan official blog

From where did the late 19th/ early 20th century occultists get the term Fraja?

One can easily imagine why there are hardly any soures about this, as not only the WW2 victors, but also the nazis themselves will have tried to keep this information hidden (most of Germany was and is still of the Christian religion).

Some interesting quotes on this (source: "Walpurgis Night - Volume One 1919-1933" by Thomas Sheridan, 2014):

Within the pages of Ostara, there were articles that contained what Lanz von Leibenfels termed 'Fraja-Christus' or the new Aryan Jesus of the coming order. This obviously influenced the young Hitler enormously, especially the articles entitled Sexual-Physics as Odylic Energy.

(page 110-111; Italic as in original text, bold by me)

A few weeks after the death of Guido von List, members of the Thule Society conducted a seance inside the Four Seasons Hotel [Munich], involving a Russian female peasant who - if reports are to be believed - manifested the spiritual forms of the murdered Prince von Thurn und Taxis and Countess von Westarp. To the terrified and amazed attendees, the ghosts of the murdered Thule Society aristocrats announced the imminent arrival of the German Messiah who had been longed for all these dark years.

The dialect in which the spirits allegedly spoke was the 'Low German' (Plattdeutsch), derived from the ancient Old Saxon tongue. However, the apparitions also came with a dire warning that this Messiah would be a false prophet who would lead Germany into destruction.

(page 130)

It was almost as if Hitler had been brought out of his shell just by being in contact with the Thule Society, and by summer 1919, was being 'tested' to see if he had what the Thule Society needed from him: the potential to be the 'Fraja-Christus': the Aryan Jesus of the resurrected Germany.

(page 148)

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Its confusing why the Nazis took an interest and defended the Oera Linda book hoax. The idea circum-Mediterranean civilization builders came from northern-europe might have appealed to the Nazis to fit their historical revisionist agenda, but the Oera Linda book states that the island of Atland was a melting pot inhabited by a black, yellow and a white race. Atland is also described as matriarchal, and appeals to modern feminists (hence the contemporary 'new age' interest in the Oera Linda book).

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No, the Old English word for cloud is "wuolcan" (see also Etymologyonline) or something, but starting with an -W-

Both times in the OLB, when the OLB mentions real clouds, it uses a word starting with a -W-.

Btw, she came over the sea in a cloud... why not over land? Would have made the trip quite a bit shorter.

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I looked it up (Overwijn's book), and this is the result:

"wolka" in the meaning of 'cloud(s)' shows up in MSS 10, 49, 50, 108, 115 and 142.

"ulk" shows up only once, in MS 38

"hulka" shows up only once too, and in the meaning of 'horn' (which is wrong; it's more than just a horn - see later), in MS 110.

And 'hulk' isn't only an old word for some freight ship, but also a word for a kind of shell, a conch, from either the Mediterranean or the Indian Ocean:

hulk, s. Amel. groote schelphoorn uit de Middellandsche of de Indische zee.

From:

Friesch Woordenboek

(LEXICON FRISICUM)

bewerkt door

Waling Dijkstra

en

Dr. F. Buitenrust Hettema

1896

Could this be true? A shell/conch (what's the damn word?) instead of a freight ship, or cloud?

In the former downloadable 1941 edition of Overwijs' book about the OLB there is a photo of a votive shrine of Nehalennia. Above her head, like a roof, is a huge shell...

14_Nehalennia.jpg6752-2.jpg

The Throne, Baldachin and Conch

The seated Nehalennia sometimes shares her position on the throne with Jupiter or other deities of high rank. The throne is often covered by a baldachin. The throne with the baldachin is a symbol of divine majesty and cosmic kingship. Nehalennia´s baldachin is shell-shaped and shows her great dignity as a goddess of heaven. The conch is an important symbol of hers which she shares with many Roman deities such as Venus, Fortuna, Juno, Minerva, Epona, Mercury, Apollo and Hercules, and is also frequently shown on tombstones

http://freya.thelady...om/?page_id=377

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EDIT:

The word is "whelk".

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Its confusing why the Nazis took an interest and defended the Oera Linda book hoax. The idea circum-Mediterranean civilization builders came from northern-europe might have appealed to the Nazis to fit their historical revisionist agenda, but the Oera Linda book states that the island of Atland was a melting pot inhabited by a black, yellow and a white race. Atland is also described as matriarchal, and appeals to modern feminists (hence the contemporary 'new age' interest in the Oera Linda book).

Aldland/Atland was the homeland of the Finda (ie. 'yellow race') only. That is all that is said about Aldland in the OLB, and that is was far enough away to not cause the Fryans on the European mainland any headaches. From the OLB one (well, I do) can gather that this Aldland lay somewhere in Asia.

See here:

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=247797&st=15#entry4772321

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Its confusing why the Nazis took an interest and defended the Oera Linda book hoax.

Some may have liked it (Wirth, Himmler) but the Nazi authorities publicly rejected it in 1934 and Wirth was silenced. Himmler financed secret investigations till 1942.

Arthur Hübner (1885-1937), a nazi-linguist, wrote in 1934 ("Herman Wirth und die Ura-Linda-chronik"):

"Die Ura Linda- Chronik ist nicht nur demokratisch, führerfeindlich, pazifistisch in ihrer Grundeinstellung, sie ist im ganzen ein Machwerk ohne Saft und Kraft..."

Translated:

"Not only is the OLB democratic, führer- [Hitler-] inimical, and pacifistic in its foundations, as a whole it is a worthless fabrication ["without juice and power"]."

Menno ter Braak (1902-1940), a dutch author and anti-Fascist, wrote in the same year ("Arthur Hübner contra Herman Wirth"):

"Dat men het Oera Linda Boek in een goede vertaling en met een paedagogisch commentaar in het programma van het M.O. opneme, ter voorlichting van de jeugd!"

Translated:

"The OLB should be added to the program of secondary education, in a good translation and with pedagogic comments, to educate the youth!"

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Aldland/Atland was the homeland of the Finda (ie. 'yellow race') only. That is all that is said about Aldland in the OLB, and that is was far enough away to not cause the Fryans on the European mainland any headaches. From the OLB one (well, I do) can gather that this Aldland lay somewhere in Asia.

See here:

http://www.unexplain...15#entry4772321

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Dude, the texts says Aldland/Atland sat in northern europe. It is the land of the Finns, close to Germany:

In early times almost all the Finns lived together in their native land, which was called Aldland.
Aldland,called by the seafaring people,Atland, disappeared...It was not only in Finda's land that the earth vomited fire, but also in Twiskland (Germany).

Its location is either Scandinavia or the North Sea.

At the beginning of the Oera Linda book we are told the creation account of the three races from the same region. Aldland is translated as "old[est] land" and wr-alda as the oldest god. These are obviously connected, it was the northern europe region where the creation was supposed to have taken place.

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The fact the OLB describes the Finns as a "yellow race" is just more evidence it is a 19th century hoax.

Originally it was assumed that as the Finnish language was relatedto Sámi – spoken by tribes perceived asMongolian in origin – and as many Finns supposedly looked ‘Eastern,’that Finns were ‘Mongoloid’and this view remained relatively unchallenged until the beginning of the twentieth century

http://www.academia.edu/351817/Battling_to_be_European_Myth_and_the_Finnish_Race

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The fact the OLB describes the Finns as a "yellow race" is just more evidence it is a 19th century hoax.

http://www.academia....he_Finnish_Race

From the same source:

"

… Wiik (2006) argues that Finns are around a third mongoloid genetically with the genetic origins of Finnish males being in the east. However, Niskanen argues that the Finnish ‘mongoloid look’ actually involves features inherited from early European (Cro-Magnon) man which have remained due to Finland’s cold environment and its relatively late move to agriculture. Niskanen therefore argues in favour of the ‘Continuity Theory’which began to gain a following from around 1980 onwards. In a detailed discussion of racial history, Niskanen argues that Finns are not actually ‘Mongoloid.’ Finland has been inhabited since the end of the last Ice Age and the Finns arrived somewhere between10,000 and 6000 years ago in waves. Niskanen argues that Finns are a mixture of a number of European ‘sub-races’: Finns are ‘Old Europeans,’ amongst the earliest settlers to northern Europe, and Proto-Nordics, otherwise known as Cro-Magnon Man. The isolation of the Finns has meant that they have retained features from these groups explaining their distinctive and supposedly Mongoloid look, which in fact evidences adaptation to the cold."

So the fact Finns are looked on as yellow/Mongoloid is obvious, let this be now, hundred years back, 200 years back, 500 years back or even further.

The reason why is discussed, more lately in favour of the Cro Magnon remains as early settlers and adapted to the cold ???

2 Different stories: Finda settled afterwards in sparsely populated area or Cro Magnon as early and original inhabitant.

Which one is true?

EDIT:

Maybe I read over it, but has anyone found a mentionning of the slanted eyes of the Finns (and/or Finda) in OLB?

Edited by Van Gorp

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The fact the OLB describes the Finns as a "yellow race"...

It doesn't.

The mythical primal mother FINDA is described as yellow, but the Finns (FINNA), although described as having come from the east, derive their name from the word FIN:

[051/28]

THÀT FOLK NETH NAVT ÉNIS EN NOME.

THRVCH VS SEND HJA FINNA HÉTEN.

HWAND AFSKÉN HJARA FÉRSTA ALGADUR DROV ÀND BLODICH SEND.

THACH SEND HJA THÉR ALSA FIN VP

THAT WI THÉRBI ÀFTER STÁNE.

Sandbach, p. 73:

This people have not even a name;

but we call them Finns,

because although all the [their] festivals are melancholy and bloody,

they are so formal [FIN]

that we are inferior to them in that respect.

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... just more evidence it is a 19th century hoax.
Originally it was assumed that as the Finnish language was related to Sámi – spoken by tribes perceived as Mongolian in origin – and as many Finns supposedly looked ‘Eastern, ’that Finns were ‘Mongoloid’ and this view remained relatively unchallenged until the beginning of the twentieth century.

Have you actually read the study you quoted from?

The quote is followed by (my underlining):

Since that point, and particularly since the 1990s, it has been increasingly argued that Finns should be seen as ‘European’ but with a considerably more ‘eastern’ influence than many other Europeans.

That the original assumption was challenged, does not mean it was refuted.

Another significant quote from the introduction:

... their language is related to Hungarian, a string of languages across northern Russia and, some believe, Mongolian and even Japanese (see Gleason 1969). They are not quite Eastern yet they are not quite Western (...)

And from conclusion:

Many scholars agree that the question of the Finnish race remains unanswered. I would argue that on structural level, drawing upon a modern myth, they should [be] categorised as ‘Battling to be White’ which may also be the case with a number of other peripheral European nations in terms of racial scholarship.
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Dude, the texts says Aldland/Atland sat in northern europe. It is the land of the Finns, close to Germany:

Its location is either Scandinavia or the North Sea.

At the beginning of the Oera Linda book we are told the creation account of the three races from the same region. Aldland is translated as "old[est] land" and wr-alda as the oldest god. These are obviously connected, it was the northern europe region where the creation was supposed to have taken place.

Ooh new blood, I'm also an Atlantis researcher, my lucky day. Abe will probably show you and I'm only on an iPad so dont have my notes saved, but read closely, it says (in English) 'native land' = ' mothers birthland' in the fryan text (angelfire) - then finda is said to be born from the Ganges, therefore one can interpret it as aldland actually being in asia.

It certainly seems more logical to think it was nearer to the Fryans however it is 101 years since aldland sinks that the Finns and Magyar arrive, so one would hardly think they were right next door if it takes 101 years to get there.

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It doesn't.

The mythical primal mother FINDA is described as yellow, but the Finns (FINNA), although described as having come from the east, derive their name from the word FIN:

[051/28]

THÀT FOLK NETH NAVT ÉNIS EN NOME.

THRVCH VS SEND HJA FINNA HÉTEN.

HWAND AFSKÉN HJARA FÉRSTA ALGADUR DROV ÀND BLODICH SEND.

THACH SEND HJA THÉR ALSA FIN VP

THAT WI THÉRBI ÀFTER STÁNE.

Sandbach, p. 73:

This people have not even a name;

but we call them Finns,

because although all the [their] festivals are melancholy and bloody,

they are so formal [FIN]

that we are inferior to them in that respect.

And into English that is 'fine'.

Originally 'highest quality, end, termination'.

See fine etymology. (Fine and finish)

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I'm actually really liking VGs Gothic idea. I posted that both goths and early Finns are found situated in the east Vistula river area. The OLB texts IMO fits, as rightly pointed out, that Uppsala, Wodin, goths, sacrifice and unhappy demeanour fit the gothic landscape, not to mention a disposition to translate bibles very early...

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You'll find if you dig deep that goths could be scythes, who also could be Finns, I'm talking small portions of y-DNA mostly, leaders, priests, not Druids who were Gola/Kalta/kelt based. Goth is a small step to Scyth - since g and c interchange I'm already there...

No-one believed Herodotus accounts of the gory sacrifices made by scythes until some years back they found what tallied to a very close description of their 50 youth-50 horse sacrificial description by Herodotus. The OLB clearly distinguishes from a leader group Magyar and a follower group Finns, a name given, in the OLB to a group of nomadic people who had wandered since the sinking of aldland, heading west, as so many archaeological horizons do, I always thought the battle axe culture sounded a good candidate, goths liked battle axes I'm pretty sure...

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Dude, the texts says Aldland/Atland sat in northern europe. It is the land of the Finns, close to Germany:

Its location is either Scandinavia or the North Sea.

At the beginning of the Oera Linda book we are told the creation account of the three races from the same region. Aldland is translated as "old[est] land" and wr-alda as the oldest god. These are obviously connected, it was the northern europe region where the creation was supposed to have taken place.

It was the homeland of the FINDA, not the Fins.

I know why you make that mistake, and it is because you read about the OLB, but most certainly not in its original language.

People read online English translations, and we have been posting about all those errors in those translations for 4+ years now.

Please read the link in my former post where I answered you. In that link you will see quotes from the OLB you will not find on other websites.

And wasn't there a Robert Scrutton something, who claimed Altantis was in the North Sea, and that it was the homeland of different races. And all based on his version of the OLB.

He never read it.

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At the beginning of the Oera Linda book we are told the creation account of the three races from the same region.

Please give a quote from the OLB.

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EDIT:

Another old post:

http://www.unexplain...85#entry4963887

Read that please, and then tell me - based on whatever logic - Aldland could have been in the North Sea.

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Edited by Abramelin

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