sean6 Posted May 22, 2012 #1 Share Posted May 22, 2012 (edited) Oxford University project starts serious hunt for Yeti using DNA samples from around the world An Oxford college is to analyse samples of Yeti hair and teeth in one of the most serious attempts yet made to track down the elusive and possibly mythical species. Wolfson college is asking for samples of hair and teeth of 'cryptids' - unknown animals such as the Yeti - and is to use the latest DNA technology to analyse samples from around the world. 'As part of a larger enquiry into the genetic relationshipbetween our own species Homo sapiens and other hominids, we invite submissionsof organic material from formally undescribed species, or ‘cryptids’, for thepurpose of their species identification by genetic means,' says the college. http://www.dailymail...ples-world.html Edited May 22, 2012 by sean6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafterman Posted May 22, 2012 #2 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Boy I bet they're going to get tired of analysing raccoon, dog, human, squirrel, bear, etc. hair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanVonErich Posted May 22, 2012 #3 Share Posted May 22, 2012 SPOILER: At the end of this project all of these believers will become non-believers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keninsc Posted May 22, 2012 #4 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Naaaaaw, all the believers will come up with a hundred or so reason why nothing came up positive as an unknown. Never underestimate the ability of a believer to rationalize........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly Dangerously Posted May 22, 2012 #5 Share Posted May 22, 2012 You know, by this point, we could have genetically engineered a Yeti one faster than find a living one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithisco Posted May 22, 2012 #6 Share Posted May 22, 2012 You might also find this BBC article interesting.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18160673 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Waters Posted May 22, 2012 #7 Share Posted May 22, 2012 If you've got a yeti scalp in your shed, and you'd like to submit it for verification, you can find out how to do so over on the project's website. http://www.wired.co....-05/22/yeti-dna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-C Posted May 22, 2012 #8 Share Posted May 22, 2012 If you've got a yeti scalp in your shed, and you'd like to submit it for verification, you can find out how to do so over on the project's website. http://www.wired.co....-05/22/yeti-dna Finally! I can clean out my garage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted May 23, 2012 #9 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I'll send in any feces, scat, hair, skin flakes, drool, bones, teeth and even antlers I find.... As long as someone else is paying for it, why not?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted May 23, 2012 #10 Share Posted May 23, 2012 DNA to shed light on yeti claims A UK-Swiss team will use DNA testing to investigate the origins of remains claimed to be from yeti and bigfoot.The project will examine hair, bone and other material from a collection amassed by a Swiss biologist - and will invite submissions from elsewhere. Many cultures relate legends of hairy, humanoid creatures that lurk in the wilds, rarely seen. But material claimed to be from such creatures have never been subjected to modern scientific techniques. "It's an area that any serious academic ventures into with a deal of trepidation... It's full of eccentric and downright misleading reports," said Prof Bryan Sykes, from Oxford University. The researchers will apply a systematic approach and employ the latest advances in genetic testing, aiming to publish in peer-reviewed scientific journals. Read more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keninsc Posted May 23, 2012 #11 Share Posted May 23, 2012 They're going to have to sift through a lot of poo and have to deal with people faking Bigfoot poo by mixing human and ape poo together. Not to mention mutated opossums, squirrels, rabbits, even coyotes and dogs. I just hope they assume it's a fake until otherwise checked out. Some scientist aren't always the brightest bulbs on the tree, and most aren't used to being lied to and intentionally deceived. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie_Dwarf Posted May 23, 2012 #12 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I just hope they assume it's a fake until otherwise checked out. Some scientist aren't always the brightest bulbs on the tree, and most aren't used to being lied to and intentionally deceived.Just saying. The basis of scientific principle is that something is unproven until sufficient evidence is available to form a conclusion. Thus it would be just as poor science to assume it is fake as to assume it is genuine. In fact the default position of good science is "we don't know". A lot of people like to comment on how scientists aren't bright whilst at the same time demonstrating a fundamental lack of understanding of how science actually works. Just saying. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orcseeker Posted May 23, 2012 #13 Share Posted May 23, 2012 The basis of scientific principle is that something is unproven until sufficient evidence is available to form a conclusion. Thus it would be just as poor science to assume it is fake as to assume it is genuine. In fact the default position of good science is "we don't know". A lot of people like to comment on how scientists aren't bright whilst at the same time demonstrating a fundamental lack of understanding of how science actually works. Just saying. Boom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stardrive Posted May 23, 2012 #14 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Others are highly sceptical of such tales, and consider the subject unworthy of serious scientific investigation. Asked about the project's chances of success, Prof Sykes said: "The answer is, of course, I don't know," adding, "it's unlikely, but on the other hand if we don't examine it we won't know." Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dharma warrior Posted May 23, 2012 #15 Share Posted May 23, 2012 "They're going to have to sift through a lot of poo and have to deal with people faking Bigfoot poo by mixing human and ape poo together." Seriously? Where exactly does one find ape poo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted May 23, 2012 #16 Share Posted May 23, 2012 "They're going to have to sift through a lot of poo and have to deal with people faking Bigfoot poo by mixing human and ape poo together." Seriously? Where exactly does one find ape poo? Try a zoo. p*** off a chimp in its cage, and he will sent it to you by 'airmail'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Fluffs Posted May 23, 2012 #17 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Lovely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguarsky Posted May 23, 2012 #18 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I thought the entire article was just a bit biased concerning the examination of "evidence" and the advanced technology used. It seemed to say that only this particular group is current on DNA extraction and study, when in fact there have been several DNA studies in recent years, all using state of the art techniques. So far they have found nothing. Perhaps they were only referring to the samples that the one BF hunter was submitting, but that is not what I took away from the article. I was also confused regarding the comment that DNA could be extracted from a fragment of hair. As I understand the process DNA would only be available if that "fragment" contained the hair root as DNA is not present in the shaft of the hair itself. Of course, I am not a biologist so I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csspwns Posted May 24, 2012 #19 Share Posted May 24, 2012 all the past evidence have already been found as false...perhaps this time it would be real? would be cool to find some unknown ape or an previously thought to be extinct type of ape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava_Lady Posted May 24, 2012 #20 Share Posted May 24, 2012 (edited) Not all submitted evidence was proven false, as a matter of fact, many published test results of hair samples have come back as either inconclusive or primate hair, which is pretty amazing for hair samplers found in the American north west. Edited May 24, 2012 by Lava_Lady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cenobite Posted May 24, 2012 #21 Share Posted May 24, 2012 They're going to have to sift through a lot of poo and have to deal with people faking Bigfoot poo by mixing human and ape poo together. Not to mention mutated opossums, squirrels, rabbits, even coyotes and dogs. I just hope they assume it's a fake until otherwise checked out. Some scientist aren't always the brightest bulbs on the tree, and most aren't used to being lied to and intentionally deceived. Just saying. what a load of poo, there are so many things wrong with this post, who are all these people that are going to be mixing ape and human crap to fool the scientists? mutated opossums? where the hell did that come from and the statement that scientists aren't used to being intentionally deceived, c'mon the very fact they are scientists means they are reasonably intelligent, are you really suggesting that some knobhead mixing 5hit is going to fool the scientific community? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welsh Shaun Posted May 24, 2012 #22 Share Posted May 24, 2012 They are mainly interested in hair samples, and no doubt those with the folicles still attached. Does anyone know if the Ketchum Report was ever allowed to be published. This was the last large DNA study which the results should have been released earlier this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlis Posted May 24, 2012 #23 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Another article on this topic: Scientists start DNA hunt for Bigfoot, Yeti and cryptid species: By JohnThomas Didymus May 23, 2012 Scientists say they are looking for genetic evidence of the existence of widely reported humanoids known in various parts of the world as Bigfoot, Yeti or Sasquatch, and other cryptozoological beings that have been claimed across the world. National Post reports that a joint project between Oxford University and Switzerland's Lausanne Museum of Zoology will examine organic remains claimed to belong to alleged cryptid creatures. The Daily Mail reports Wolfson College, Oxford is asking for "samples of hair and teeth of cryptids," as part of a larger inquiry into the genetic relationship between "our own species Homo sapiens and other hominids." Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/325365 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted May 24, 2012 #24 Share Posted May 24, 2012 They are mainly interested in hair samples, and no doubt those with the folicles still attached. Does anyone know if the Ketchum Report was ever allowed to be published. This was the last large DNA study which the results should have been released earlier this year. Dude I check on that damn report just about daily, still hasn't been released. I for one am extremely excited about this. Theoretically this could bring a level of credibility to the whole field. It will be interesting to see how the Ketchum report (assuming its real) and this study end up verifying or disputing each other through the evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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