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The Mysterious Death of Carol Wayne

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The Mysterious Death of Carol Wayne

This is my first thread started in this forum, and I’m not sure if this case has been discussed before, so please bear with me…

Carol Wayne (September 6, 1942 – January 13, 1985) was a television actress most active in the 1960’s and 1970’s. She is perhaps best remembered for her re-occurring role as “The Matinee Lady” on “The Tonight Show” with Johnny Carson. She was also a frequent guest on The Red Skelton Show, and had many appearances on other popular shows of the time.

Carol had spent many years perfecting the role of the “Ditzy Blonde Bombshell”, and perhaps no one played the part better. She was so good at it that she seldom had an opportunity to play anything else.

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The success of the Tonight Show, helped lead to her ultimate professional downfall. Johnny Carson began to push for a reduction in the shows run time from 90 minutes to 60, and while this was good news for the network, as it led to the creation of “Late Night With David Letterman” it led to her spot in the show being reduced drastically.

She was married several times, first to Rock and Roll photographer Barry Feinstein then later to TV and film producer Burt Sugarman.

Following the cuts in the Tonight Show she was having severe financial problems, and reportedly had fallen into drug and alcohol abuse. Toward the end of her life she had resorted to being an escort for rich men.

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In January 1985, Wayne and her companion Edward Durston were vacationing at the Las Hadas Resort in Manzanillo, Colima, Mexico. After an argument with Durston, Wayne reportedly left to take a walk on the beach. Three days later a local fisherman found Wayne's body in the shallow bay.

Authorities later discovered Durston had checked out of the resort the day the couple argued. He had left Wayne's luggage at the airport. Later, an autopsy performed in Mexico revealed no signs of drugs or alcohol in Wayne's body. Her death was eventually ruled as "accidental".

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Carol was deathly afraid of water, and would not have gone swimming. The water she was found in was only 4 feet deep.

Excerpt from Carol Wayne website http://www.tvparty.com/wayne.html )

According to published reports, Carol Wayne was on vacation in Santiago Bay, Mexico with Los Angeles car salesman Edward Durston on January 10, 1985 when (it has been reported) the couple had a argument about where they were going to stay that evening (they were scheduled to fly back to Los Angeles the next morning).

Durston checked into a hotel and Wayne reportedly left to walk down the beach (to cool off?). That was the last time anyone saw her alive. Local fisherman Abel de Dios found her limp body floating in the shallow bay waters three days later.

Mexican authorities wondered how Carol Wayne came to drown in waters four feet deep, fully clothed. There were no cuts or abrasions, so a fall from the nearby rocks was ruled out. The coroner stated that death occurred 3 - 4 days earlier and the body tested negative for drugs and alcohol.

Suspicions were raised: Carol Wayne had to be identified by workers at the Las Hadas resort where the couple had been staying earlier in the week. When locals went to look for Wayne's traveling companion, they discovered that Edward Durston checked out three days earlier - leaving Wayne's luggage at the airport with a message that she would pick up her bags in the morning.

As an aside, many readers may remember the (alleged) LSD related death of Art Linkletter's daughter Diane. She jumped (or fell) from a sixth floor apartment building in 1969.

Art Linkletter basically ended his successful television career when he started crusading against drugs with a fervor that made it hard for middle America to find the afternoon talk show host funny anymore.

Not that it necessarily means anything, but Diane Linkletter's companion the night she was killed was Edward Durston.

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Great thread Taun, very interesting case. Great job. :tu:

I had no idea who she was until I watched an episode of "Mysteries and Scandals" about her death, not too long ago. Very complex case, Edward Durston sure is a very interesting suspect, however there's no solid evidence that he could have committed the crime.

She was afraid of water, she couldn't swim, yet she was found in the waters of the Santiago Bay. This is strange. The coroner stated that her body tested negative for drugs and alcohol, and that her body had no scratches or abrasions. I'm no conspiracy theorist and usually I trust what we find in Coroner and Autopsy reports, but I'm wondering how reliable this coroner is. Seems to me that the entire autopsy might have been rushed, only my opinion. I think this case should be reopened.

Here's the "Mysteries & Scandals" episode I was talking about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUKlXTuuqCo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uykfg61b8E

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Thanks JVE... I'll have to wait until I get home to watch the vids, as they took the speakers out of our computers here at work...

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There is not much about Edward Durston on the net... apparently he was a used car salesman in LA, and apparently having him around was "the kiss of death" for female celebrities... Other than that, the only thing I could find was that he was born in 1942 and died in 2007 (if it's the same Edward Durston)...

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Can't read lips Tuan? :P I know how you feel, though. YouTube is completely blocked here at work after 9 AM. Not sure why that's the magic time, but it is.

I agree that this is an excellent story and I, too, would like to see the case reopened. There's so much more we have available now to solve cold cases that perhaps this case would benefit, even though it's not considered a cold case.

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Can't read lips Tuan? :P I know how you feel, though. YouTube is completely blocked here at work after 9 AM. Not sure why that's the magic time, but it is.

I agree that this is an excellent story and I, too, would like to see the case reopened. There's so much more we have available now to solve cold cases that perhaps this case would benefit, even though it's not considered a cold case.

Oh I can read lips alright! This time of day however all they are saying is "What's for lunch?"...

You tube is ALWAYS blocked here, but we can watch a video if it's embedded in something else... Just no audio... We are supposed to use headphones, but since my job requires that I monitor a radio, I can't do that...

I wonder if she might have somehow been invited onto a boat, and fell off? Though I can't imagine the boat owner not 'fishing her out of the water, or at least reporting it...

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I wonder if she might have somehow been invited onto a boat, and fell off? Though I can't imagine the boat owner not 'fishing her out of the water, or at least reporting it...

Interesting theory. The biggest mystery is: Where did she spent the night after Durston last saw her ??

So Durston claims that the last time he saw Carol she was upset because they couldn't rent a room at a particular resort, she left the hotel and never came back. Obviously this sounds like they had a fight, clearly establishing Durston as being the prime suspect in the case. What he did at the time of Carol's disappearance is strange and suspicious.

It's possible that she spent the night at somebody else's home and that this person ( or persons ) killed her. But how ?? If we believe the Coroner's report her body had no scratches or abrasions. This is mind-boggling. Again I usually trust Coroner and Autopsy reports, but I'm having a hard time believing that nothing suspicious was found on her body, that's how I feel about it.

Note: What about her ex-husband, Barry Feinstein ?? A source told the producers of "Mysteries & Scandals" that Feinstein had collected on a life insurance policy on his ex-wife. Link: http://www.findadeath.com/Deceased/w/Carolwayne/CarolWayne.htm

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Interesting theory. The biggest mystery is: Where did she spent the night after Durston last saw her ??

So Durston claims that the last time he saw Carol she was upset because they couldn't rent a room at a particular resort, she left the hotel and never came back. Obviously this sounds like they had a fight, clearly establishing Durston as being the prime suspect in the case. What he did at the time of Carol's disappearance is strange and suspicious.

It's possible that she spent the night at somebody else's home and that this person ( or persons ) killed her. But how ?? If we believe the Coroner's report her body had no scratches or abrasions. This is mind-boggling. Again I usually trust Coroner and Autopsy reports, but I'm having a hard time believing that nothing suspicious was found on her body, that's how I feel about it.

Note: What about her ex-husband, Barry Feinstein ?? A source told the producers of "Mysteries & Scandals" that Feinstein had collected on a life insurance policy on his ex-wife. Link: http://www.findadeat.../CarolWayne.htm

I didn't know about Feinstein's policy... Still I can't help but think that Durston was either directly involved - or knew who was...

I agree with your earlier statement that the autopsy may not have been as thourough as it should have been... Was there water in the lungs? Or was she suffocated then pitched into the water... Suffocation - if done 'properly' can often leave no trace marks on the body...

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Possible Suspects :....of course there is the man she was with Ed Durston.  Right off I wonder who this guy is to be dating Art Linkletter's daughter and with her right before she supposedly committed suicide in 1969 and with Carol Wayne before she was found dead in 1985.  Who is he, and why does it say he was left alone and never investigated ?.   His ex wife told E producers Ed was quite shaken when he returned to LA, and Ed wondered why Carol had not returned back at the hotel or airport in Mexico.  His ex wife said he would never have harmed her, but we can throw that out.  Every murder on the news, the neighbors say the murderer surprises them because he was such a nice person.  The ex wife saying he couldn't do it, lets throw that out....Why was he shaken up when he got back to LA, and how did he know she hadn't returned to the Mexican hotel or airport ?....Had he been calling Mexico from LA  ?   Why in the investigation was this man not investigated ?   How rich and powerful was he to date Art Linkletters daugter and also actress Carol Wayne ?....Lets look at the death of Diane Linkletter who is on record as spending the last 6 hours of her life with her before she is found dead from jumping out of a building.  Jumped or thrown ?...Again, it doesn't seem like much investigation into Ed Durston the boyfriend.  Who is this rich guy that police refuse to investigate as they would other people ?  Now Art blamed LSD and the drug dealers. Here again, Ed was with her for at least 6 hours, so if she was on LSD, Ed was with her. How did she end up falling from the window ?  Now jump from 1969 to 1985 and Carol Wayne.  Carol Wayne had filed bankruptcy on December 19th and 3 weeks later was staying at the hotel where they filmed the movie 10 with Bo Derek and Dudley Moore.  Ed Durston was paying for this.  I think this man is more than a car salesman, don't you ?  Info says he was not just an escort but her drug party buddy. ( Diane Linkletter drug connection to Carol Wayne cocaine connection ?      That would explain this smuck dating these glamour actresses )  .....On January 10th, 1985. Ed and Carol checked out of the famed hotel but missed their flight at the airport.  They returned to find the famed hotel had no vacancies.  This part doesn't sound right.  Mr Moneybags can do everything but check out and get to the airport on time, and with his money and this star on his arms can't get back in the hotel room.  I'm thinking either both stoned on drugs, or he wanted to be with her in mexico longer but on the cheap.  So Ed downgrades and takes Carol to a hotel not of the Lifestyle of the Rich and Famous. Carol Wayne calls him cheap and refuses to stay in such a dump.  Here we have the argument on record. She leaves, we are told.  She does not return. The next day Ed checks out and leaves Carols travel luggage at the airport by saying she will probably show up. He flies from Mexico to LA without her. This puzzles me. He doesn't stay to see if any harm has come to her, he just leaves, goes to LA to his ex wife who says he was shaken.  This doesn't smell right.  Again, Why was he not investigated in the deaths of Diane Linkletter or Carol Wayne.  Now is it possible both actresses knew each other. They did both work on the Red Skelton Show.   Mexican police rule out drugs and say no marks or bruises to show foul play.  Are you telling me a body found in the water 3 or 4 days after death has no marks or bruises from the rocks and tide, I don't buy that either. .......It's easy to suspect Ed Durston in both deaths, wondering why this rich man of drugs never gets investigated. ...

But there is ANOTHER SUSPECT.....One in which MOTIVE jumps out at you.....Double Indemnity. ....Carols ex husband Barry Feinstein, divorced for 11 years, filed and collected on a life insurance Double Indemnity Clause.  Carols sister Nina Wayne, married and divorced from the Barrymore Family, said she had no say in the matter of her sisters body in Mexico. ....Immediately on the scene in Mexico was the ex husband 11 years divorced.  It is on the record that he chose the cheapest and fastest way of bringing home the body.  The Mexican police ruling no drugs and no foul play made it possible for him to collect on his Double Indemnity Life Insurance policy.  A policy on an ex wife 11 years divorced.  The little man in Edward G Robinson's stomach would be all over the low odds of the ex ever collecting Double Indemnity. ...So who is Barry Feinstein ?  Famed photographer of Marlene Dietrich, Judy Garland, Charlton Heston, Steve McQueen, Jane Mansfield, John F Kennedy, Richard Nixon, Bob Dylan, George Harrison, Janis Joplin, The Rolling Stones for Time, Esquire, Newsweek  and over 500 record album covers.  He was married to Mary Travers of Peter Paul and Mary from 1963 to 1967....In 1969 he married buxom beauty actress Carol Wayne until their divorce in 1974,....This is a Rich and Famous that popped up immediately in Mexico and could have had the money and power to have the Mexican police death investigation go his way on collecting on the Double Indemnity clause.  He kept Carols sister out of it and he got the body away from Mexican police back to USA the cheapest and quickest way possible it is reported.    So ex husband Barry Feinstein collecting on the life insurance Double Indemnity clause is against the insurance odds, and maybe more than just luck.....The ex husband of 11 years benefits the most, as in a Columbo movie,  and so I see great MOTIVE. ....He sure got to Mexico fast and took over the police investigation and handling of the body a great deal for someone divorced for 11 years, ..ODD........and this keeps Ed Durston from being investigated, WHY ????.

US Counselor William LaCoque did not buy that this was just a drowning as Mexican investigation said, saying there is more to this than we will ever know. 

Now here career had changed.  She had always played dumb but then on Carson's couch was smart.  Then she got into drugs and became an escort for the richest of men. She did the Playboy nude pictures , as an aging Jayne Mansfield had done.  This would make her less wanted by TV and movie censors and studios.  As the Playboy Mag came out she was on Johnny Carson one last time. I have seen the reruns and at the couch she continues to be dumb, unlike years before. She continues the dumb blonde routine. She tells the audience how many times she has been with Johnny at night, and 7 times it was not on TV.  Carson says, " you haven't changed "...Is this about her drug problems, and maybe he thought she had cleaned up and was giving her a shot back.  As much fun as they had in the sketch, Carson face and expression is not enjoying Carol talking of her nude pictures, her and Carson off the TV, and some ramblings that just leave Carson looking at her wondering, what the heck are you on. ....and a year later she filed bankruptcy.....Here is the question :  Was this woman going to come out with a TELL ALL BOOK to make money ?  Many rich married men would have suffered, maybe some politicians.  She had no problem saying she had been with Carson off the show, and Johnny having enough divorce money problems didn't seem to like that cat out of the bag.   

In conclusion, the most logic possibility is that she died of drugs with Ed Durston as Art Linkletter's daughter died of drugs with Ed Durston,  Ed never getting investigated in either death. It could very well be both overdosed, and he sleezed out of it.  Carol may have even overdosed and Ed put her body in the water as the cowards way of not calling rescue crews and police. He the man of the drugs. ..Not a planned murder by either woman, but his drugs killing them just the same...That ties together, that makes sense. That explains his leaving Mexico without her and going straight to his ex wife pretending he doesn't know where she is, all shaken up.....Now Mr Feinstein is no saint, as he comes into Mexico, keeps the sister out of it, and to collect his Double Indemnity Insurance on his ex, he makes sure he gets the Mexican police to rule out drugs or foul play. He then expedites the dead body out of Mexico quickly. He is the last person that would want drug man Ed Durston investigated because such an investigation ruins his Double Indemnity Insurance Claim.....So in a strange way Durston helps Feinstein and Feinstein helps Durston by what they DO NOT tell the police, and that my friends is tampering with a murder investigation by both, and both should have went to prison,..but both are lily white Lifestyles Of The Rich And Famous, so they get by with it....and it all pieces together.....2 actresses of overdoses while boyfriend Durston of drug money never gets investigated....and ex Feinstein makes sure there is no investigation so he can collect the Double Indemnity....Both guilty as hell of felonies, both getting away with it....and they are so rich, I smell Mob Connections, especially with Durston. ....If she doesn't die of drugs, none of this makes sense, but if you consider drug overdose and how both Durston and Feinstein benefit from disclosing the overdose and calling it a drowning, it all goes together.....I agree with the US Counselor, THIS WAS NOT A DROWNING DEATH. .....This was the disposal of a person that died of overdose into the water to avoid her being found at the hotel of Durston.  Plain and Simple. ......and why the sister and The Barrymore Family she married into all loved that it was ruled accidental death, because all families hide drug overdose of a loved one if they can, for the deceased and for the family. This would explain why so many were happy with such a sloppy homicide investigation. There is no mystery, most families hide an overdose, and instead of the Obit saying drugs, it says to donate to The Heart Fund or some other complete lie.  It may also be that the Mexican Rich and Famous Hotel of the movie 10 did not want this in their Hotel History, and they may have even aided Mr Durston on dumping the body in the water for the benefit of their Hotel.  These things are very possible and would connect the pieces.  Much like the movie Jaws where the resort tells the police chief he can't yell SHARK,  this fancy resort may have told the police chief he can't yell DRUG OVERDOSE, as they all swept it under the rug for pride, profit and self preservation. .....and the jigsaw pieces fall into place. 

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Pretty interesting post Kwkkwk... All three scenarios you listed seem plausible to me - drug overdose and dumped by "boy friend", bumped off by ex-hubby for insurance, and bumped off by boyfriend...  It seems to me that the only non-plausible scenario of her death is the official one... Drowning...

 

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1 hour ago, Taun said:

Pretty interesting post Kwkkwk... All three scenarios you listed seem plausible to me - drug overdose and dumped by "boy friend", bumped off by ex-hubby for insurance, and bumped off by boyfriend...  It seems to me that the only non-plausible scenario of her death is the official one... Drowning...

 

And by the way, Welcome to UM!

Oh...I'm not saying bumped off or murder.....but the concealing of a drug overdose by everybody from the boyfriend with the drugs and drug mob money, to the ex needing it to be accidental to collect Double Indemnity, to the Rich and Famous resort hotel trying to avoid overdose or homicide connected to their image, to the resort and the resorts power over the police officials, to her family such as the sister married into the famed Barrymore Family, and just that when someone dies of overdose rich or poor the families don't put that in the obituary but instead say donate to the heart fund....Now the family part is not illegal, but I see crimes on top of crimes here to benefit the resort area, to benefit the ex husband because drugs kills any insurance claim, and to benefit the druggy boyfriend who does not want it to come out that he was with her and doing drugs and gave her the drugs for sex....and I say he avoided the same thing on drugs with Art Linkletters daughter.....So I see Durston as responsible for 2 drug overdose deaths. maybe not 1st degree murder,...and Feinstein making sure the insurance company has it as accidental death, not drugs or murder. ....After Carol Wayne overdosing, a lot of people covering their rear ends and why no investigation. .....It does not make sense as a drowning....A body in the water 4 days would have bruises and marks and bites taken out of it to where they could not have eliminated foul play......but Ed being responsible for Carols drug overdose as they party hearty on vacation, yes, then the body would be moved from hotel to water and all the cover up by everybody. .....So I'm not saying a planned murder, it could be, but the most logical thing by looking at all their lives is a death by drug overdose, and then the cover ups by many, many people, which many of these people could do prison time for, and why it was buried and case closed to save all the crooked SOBs. .......Look, when the Linkletter girl died, the first thing Durston is going to do is avoid the police catching his part in her overdose....and he did it again with Carol Wayne.....The guy has too much money and goes out with too many actresses to be just a car salesman, this dude is a drug dealer money maker and that has to be the case....The ex husband on the other hand had to rush in and keep it from being ruled drugs to get the insurance money....Those 2 should have went to prison and anybody that helped in changing or concealing evidence in a possible homicide investigation, which right there is a crime by all that took part. .....Even the gal that played Marsh Brady got hooked and gave sex for drugs.  That this Durston was there for not one, but two deaths, this guy had drug dealer written all over him.  I don't even think that's in question.  He would then be guilty of 2 drug deaths as a drug dealer.  That he was never investigated in either shows he has the big bucks and why these babes went out with him. .....What we have here is out an out concealing of evidence and criminal intent to cover up and why there is a mystery to lack of investigation. Durston guilty of drug overdose, and Feinstein guilty of cover up for insurance money, which stops any homicide investigation into Durston. 

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That there is not much on Durston on the internet, and the women he dated, and his drugs, and his money, ....well, if he was a Goodfella in the Mob, he isn't going to be all over the internet, those guys try to stay out of the news.....Although I'm surprised this cat avoided having much written on him considering the 2 deaths and he gets barely listed and never as a suspect.  People seem more out to blame Johnny Carson for going from cutting his show back a half hour, which is really stupid and has nothing to do with nothing. ....and why I tried to just look at the possible suspects involved. 

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I will add one more thing after sleeping on this a few days.....OK, maybe Durston was just there when Art Linkletter's daughter killed herself.......and maybe Durston was just there with Carol Wayne before she died....Lets say that he had nothing to do with the deaths for a second.....Lets say he and Carol Wayne left the exclusive hotel to go to the airport back to the USA, but missed there flight as it says.  Then they could not get back in the exclusive hotel and he could only find a cheaper hotel, to which caused the argument. Carol Wayne saying she would not stay in such a dump, and storming off. ...Now lets say Durston goes into the cheap hotel room, but she never returns. He later goes to the airport and leaves her luggage at the airport in her name for when she does leave...and he flies home to USA......and lets say Carol Wayne stormed off from the cheaper hotel and maybe went back to the exclusive hotel. ...She is a very, very beautiful TV and Movie star that could meet and be with another rich man in a few minutes time....and she might be thinking, the heck with Durston going cheap on me, there are other rich men...From the time Durston last saw her to the time her body is found in the water, anything is possible, anything, even rape by whoever she might have met.  She also could have called somebody in the USA to come down.. Anything is possible in this unknown time span....and maybe she did just slip on the rocks and drown....but what I don't see is why Durston is never really investigated hard in either death.  A black man would have been questioned in Linkletters death and then to be involved in Wayne's death, you know the police are all over him. Most white men would be questioned and investigated...but, as I say, since this white man had the money to date both Linkletter and Wayne, I'm assuming he falls into the  rich upper class 5 % that comes with often being above the law. ..Plus this ex husband Feinstein is all about keeping it an accidental death so he can collect the Double Indemnity money, so that takes the heat off Durston once Feinstien has it ruled accidental drowning.....and maybe this ex husband Feinstein used the life insurance money to fly home and bury his bankrupt ex wife and he isn't such a bad guy after all.........but in the end, the real problem here is Durston not being investigated at all in either death, and Feinstein not being investigated on the Double Indemnity Insurance he claims.  An insurance investigator would be all over this, as well as the police......Because of her beauty and being a star, she could have dumped Durstan and met another rich man very fast at this Mexican resort. She could have met many rich men. That is the problem. There could have been unknown person or unknown person with cocaine, man or woman if she swings that way and Carol just needs money and drugs.  Mr or Mrs X.......I think most black people and most white people would be investigated. Durston and Fienstein never are.  .....and the US Counselor says there is more to this than drowning........You can not rule out foul play as the Mexican officials in this resort town did.  To just call it a drowning and never investigate Durston or Feinstein or anybody at the exclusive hotels is the real crime....Perhaps they didn't want to tick off their rich customers to this town based on tourist trade. ...Yes, with her beauty, she could have been with someone after dumping Durston, I forgot that one....It sure helped all involved that there was no investigation due to Mexican officials at the resort quickly presuming accidental drowning. ....Double Indemnity cashed in on....Many things could have happened, and this will stay a mystery since most people involved are all dead also.  ....Since it has no answers, it is best to leave it alone.....It's just sad.  She was smart playing the dumb blonde and put a smile on peoples faces on TV and movies, and it's sad it all ended this way.  God rest her soul.  ...It  did make me question all of this, but there just is no absolute answers to the questions....So I'm done thinking of it.....May She Rest In Peace. 

 

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