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In Canada, the gun laws must vary by province. I know an American who was sent to Nipawin, Sakatchewan to be the plant manager at a facility. In the 2 years he was there, he was able to take the tests and get the permits to own both a rifle and a hand gun.

Yeah it's not that hard to get a gun up here. Hell with the proper permits you can own a belt fed heavy machine gun.

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14 dead at batman premier. If America banned guns that wouldn't have happened. There were kids there. Now going to the movies isn't safe and you defend your right to own a gun still?

If you live on a farm, buy a dog to defend your flock. a Marmara sheep dog or a cattle dog.

I see no reason anyone needs a gun.

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14 dead at batman premier. If America banned guns that wouldn't have happened. There were kids there. Now going to the movies isn't safe and you defend your right to own a gun still?

If you live on a farm, buy a dog to defend your flock. a Marmara sheep dog or a cattle dog.

I see no reason anyone needs a gun.

God I'm tired of people like you, especially those of you who are way the hell away from the United States and think you know what is good for us. But you are right. Maybe instead of going out with friends and target practicing, and being excited to go hunting with my Uncle in Fall, I should just stay at home. Sit on Unexplained-Mysteries forums, and hope one day guns are banned, that way all violent crime and murder in the world will stop. Did BTK killer need a gun? Nope. Did the pig farmer in Canada who killed 40 women need a gun? Nope. Do some research, almost all serials killers killed without the use of guns. But, by your logic, these people would have never committed their atrocities right? But I did have an idea, all you people who want guns banned. Make your own little town, your own mayor, and your own laws which make owning a firearm there illegal. Would solve your problem, and would solve ours, so we wouldn't have to hear you people thinking you know whats best for us.

I honestly don't mean to come off as a jerk. But I've had enough of all the anti-gun people thinking because a tragedy happened, they now have the fuel for their fire.

Give this video a look, maybe it will change your mind. Guns aren't the killers.

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14 dead at batman premier. If America banned guns that wouldn't have happened. There were kids there. Now going to the movies isn't safe and you defend your right to own a gun still?

If you live on a farm, buy a dog to defend your flock. a Marmara sheep dog or a cattle dog.

I see no reason anyone needs a gun.

How do you know it wouldnt have happened if America banned guns? How do you know it wouldnt have been worse if he didnt have gun? What if he burned the place to the ground killing everyone? You dont have to see a reason for people to own guns. From where you are, way across the pond, you just have to mind your own business.

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How do you know it wouldnt have happened if America banned guns? How do you know it wouldnt have been worse if he didnt have gun? What if he burned the place to the ground killing everyone? You dont have to see a reason for people to own guns. From where you are, way across the pond, you just have to mind your own business.

God I'm tired of people like you, especially those of you who are way the hell away from the United States and think you know what is good for us. But you are right. Maybe instead of going out with friends and target practicing, and being excited to go hunting with my Uncle in Fall, I should just stay at home. Sit on Unexplained-Mysteries forums, and hope one day guns are banned, that way all violent crime and murder in the world will stop. Did BTK killer need a gun? Nope. Did the pig farmer in Canada who killed 40 women need a gun? Nope. Do some research, almost all serials killers killed without the use of guns. But, by your logic, these people would have never committed their atrocities right? But I did have an idea, all you people who want guns banned. Make your own little town, your own mayor, and your own laws which make owning a firearm there illegal. Would solve your problem, and would solve ours, so we wouldn't have to hear you people thinking you know whats best for us.

I honestly don't mean to come off as a jerk. But I've had enough of all the anti-gun people thinking because a tragedy happened, they now have the fuel for their fire.

Give this video a look, maybe it will change your mind. Guns aren't the killers.

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I'm tired of people like BOTH, of you. Serious, what do you NEED gun for? To kill other people? To feel safe? I'm not watching your video, all argument for guns that i've heard is to protect yourself from your government and to protect yourself from your fellow gun owners. You're right, guns are not the killers, but people sure as hell aren't responsible enough (as a collective) to warrant safe gun distribution. There are too many cases I hear of men killing wives, women killing children, shooting people over arguments. When that kind of stuff stops, then IMO guns will be fine. I see no valid reason other then 'it was written down a few hundred years ago' and 'we needs protections'

Peace will never be achieved with people like you two, promoting guns. They fall in to the wrong hands, and people die. You might be responsible, but that means nothing. You're not taking death serious if you think guns are a good idea. Make it hard for psychopaths to get guns and people will live.

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So let me get this striaght. You admit there are nut cases out there who would like nothing more then to shed as much blood as possible. But you want to disarm me? It was written down a few hundred years ago for very good reasons. But if all you want to see is the fact that it was written along time ago, without any will to understand why, then you stand on ignorance. A gun is just a tool. I could create better weapons to kill people more effectivly walking through a hard ware store. And /or stopping by my local gas station.

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So let me get this striaght. You admit there are nut cases out there who would like nothing more then to shed as much blood as possible. But you want to disarm me? It was written down a few hundred years ago for very good reasons. But if all you want to see is the fact that it was written along time ago, without any will to understand why, then you stand on ignorance. A gun is just a tool. I could create better weapons to kill people more effectivly walking through a hard ware store. And /or stopping by my local gas station.

If they had no guns, you wouldn't need guns is my point.

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Guns are banned in almost any country in the world for a good reason: They are dangerous, can kill people, and most people are too irresponsible for owning a gun. And those nations and it's citizens are perfectly fine with it. It is only you US Americans who somehow claim it would be a natural right to own a gun, as if you guys were born with it. Nobody (sure, there are exceptions) else in the world is eager on having the right to own a gun naturally, as a constitutional right, except for you guys. Why is that? It's for sure not about your safety, since guns do not protect you. Especially not if a foreign military attacks you. Do you know any accounts on how somebody successfully defended his home against intruders, or how some random guy fighted of a crook trying to mugg him in the streets? Well, there are plenty accounts on how much misery guns create.

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So let me get this striaght. You admit there are nut cases out there who would like nothing more then to shed as much blood as possible. But you want to disarm me? It was written down a few hundred years ago for very good reasons. But if all you want to see is the fact that it was written along time ago, without any will to understand why, then you stand on ignorance. A gun is just a tool. I could create better weapons to kill people more effectivly walking through a hard ware store. And /or stopping by my local gas station.

This might be true. But is this still applicable these days?

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Do you know any accounts on how somebody successfully defended his home against intruders, or how some random guy fighted of a crook trying to mugg him in the streets?

You wouldn't like any of the pro gun sites that have lots of example so I looked up "muggings thwarted by guns" and "robberies thwarted by guns" There were endless lists from various sources.

Personally, I know of quite a few examples.

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I will admit here that I have a gun, a pellet gun that will shoot out somebody's eyes out if they try to invade my property. I am not a violent person but there are people out there who are. Times are tough and home invasions do happen. Luckily never had to use it, and

I didn't even think about it lately until all the news going on.

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Guns are banned in almost any country in the world for a good reason: They are dangerous, can kill people, and most people are too irresponsible for owning a gun. And those nations and it's citizens are perfectly fine with it. It is only you US Americans who somehow claim it would be a natural right to own a gun, as if you guys were born with it. Nobody (sure, there are exceptions) else in the world is eager on having the right to own a gun naturally, as a constitutional right, except for you guys. Why is that? It's for sure not about your safety, since guns do not protect you. Especially not if a foreign military attacks you. Do you know any accounts on how somebody successfully defended his home against intruders, or how some random guy fighted of a crook trying to mugg him in the streets? Well, there are plenty accounts on how much misery guns create.

So are cars. So by that token should we get rid of all automobiles as too since irresponsible drivers (read: Drunk) kill people as well?

Good for them.

What foreign country would that be? The last major one (England) we sent packing, 236 years ago.

Seems to me that the people p***ing and moaning the most about the rights of American citizens don't even live here. :rolleyes:

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Maybe you should spend less time worring about us dumb Americans, and subjects here that you obviously have no clue about, and worry more about what goes on in your back yard. Cause frankly the guns we own here in America are none of your business. Then again Im talking to a person who lives in a country where you can be put in a cage for talking about things your government doesnt find political correct.

frankly the bullcrap that happens in the usa affects canada very much. i never said americans were dumb. you did. i know many americans and for the most part they are great people. it's the very vocal minority in your country that give it a bad rep. you seem to be one of those vocal monorities based on what you're spouting in this forum.

i couldn't care less if you all have guns. i couldn't care less if you all shoot each other and get it over with. your business, as you said.

i do care when it consumes the news and the internet with people flexing their right to own a firearm muscles and making assinine comments to support their cases.

you have no clue what i have a clue about preacherman so keep that to yourself.

you keep bringing up a fantasy incident about someone being put into a cage here, but you have yet to show any proof or documentation that it happened so i suggest you let that go and stop your snivelling because the rest of the world is sick of hearing about your gun problems.

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So are cars. So by that token should we get rid of all automobiles as too since irresponsible drivers (read: Drunk) kill people as well?

Good for them.

What foreign country would that be? The last major one (England) we sent packing, 236 years ago.

Seems to me that the people p***ing and moaning the most about the rights of American citizens don't even live here. :rolleyes:

cormac

The difference is: Cars were not designed to kill people, guns were.

I meant that your military would protect you, but not armed civilists. By the way, would you have won the war of independence without your highly trained military allies?

I used to live in the states, and at least for that time those rights were affecting me the same ways they do you.

You wouldn't like any of the pro gun sites that have lots of example so I looked up "muggings thwarted by guns" and "robberies thwarted by guns" There were endless lists from various sources.

Personally, I know of quite a few examples.

I'd like to see a neutral source, no pro or anti gun site.

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I'd like to see a neutral source, no pro or anti gun site.

That's why I didn't put a link, but what I typed into the search engine for the examples.

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The difference is: Cars were not designed to kill people, guns were.

I meant that your military would protect you, but not armed civilists. By the way, would you have won the war of independence without your highly trained military allies?

I used to live in the states, and at least for that time those rights were affecting me the same ways they do you.

I'd like to see a neutral source, no pro or anti gun site.

And where were those "highly trained military allies" during the pivotal Battle of King's Mountain? That's right, nowhere in sight. And yes, I believe we'd have still won. Most of my ancestors have been here since the 1600's and knew the land well.

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If they had no guns, you wouldn't need guns is my point.

You are simple minded and have absolutely ZERO common sense. You honestly asked me, what do I need guns for? Haven't I told you NUMEROUS times why I love and use them? Ah but I did just check your profile and found you are just 19 and think you know everything still. Probably haven't even moved out of the parents yet.

Throughout history do you know what type of leaders never want their citizens to defend themselves? Dictators.

I'm done even replying to your half brained comments and ridiculous thoughts. Keep yourself in Australia, I'm just glad you have no power to vote here in my country.

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Oh and FLOMBIE.

Why do you think Hitler made it illegal for Jews to own firearms before he slaughtered millions of them? For everyone who says, "why didn't they fight back?". Hmm... THEY COULDN'T.

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What does Hitler have to do with this? Cool down, bro. You might also want to appologise to ZaraKitty.

Well, some did fight back, some fled, and most thought it's not going to last long anyway, since they were German citizens and feeling German. Guns would have helped them very little, if they had to defend against an SS squadron. Hitler just made it easier for his butchers.

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Throughout history do you know what type of leaders never want their citizens to defend themselves? Dictators.

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In which democracy, besides the US, do the citizens have a constitutional right to own a gun? Saddam Hussein had all Iraqi families armed.

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If they had no guns, you wouldn't need guns is my point.

But then you go back to bows and arrows and slingshots or throwing axes

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Those were Rednecks fault, they do that to any one with someone who has a nice car

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What does Hitler have to do with this? Cool down, bro. You might also want to appologise to ZaraKitty.

Well, some did fight back, some fled, and most thought it's not going to last long anyway, since they were German citizens and feeling German. Guns would have helped them very little, if they had to defend against an SS squadron. Hitler just made it easier for his butchers.

In which democracy, besides the US, do the citizens have a constitutional right to own a gun? Saddam Hussein had all Iraqi families armed.

I was explaining that the Jews never had a chance to defend themselves because their right to bear arms was taken away. Would they have stood a chance? Not against what Hitler had, no. But at least they would have had the choice to fight.

People want us to cool down and not get heated over this. While you guys voice your opinions from Berlin and Australia, it's only effecting us. I'm the one who wouldn't be able to go on hunting trips with my family and friends. Not any of you. We are raised to be proud of our ancestors who fought and gave their lives to defend our rights. It's who we are and what we came from. Maybe it wouldn't effect all Americans as it would myself. But I don't care who it is, even our own President, nobody will be removing or modifying our 2nd Amendment. And nobody ever will. They can raise our taxes, we'll b****.

What you people don't understand is, anything can be used as a weapon. If someone wants to kill multiple people without a gun, well, they could easily take a Escalade out and run people over. There is plenty of legal everyday materials that could be used to build bombs.

Yes, there will always be morons who misuse property to harm others. But guns are just the same as those mentioned. Property.

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People want us to cool down and not get heated over this.

No... actually I think its just YOU that Flombie was referring to.

You admitted before to overreacting. You'd think that knowing you have a tendency to do that, you'd try and be a bit more rational in your approach.

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No... actually I think its just YOU that Flombie was referring to.

You do know this isn't the only place that this is being discussed right?

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