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I'm interested in what the people of America tend to believe regarding the horrible September 11 incidents. It's easy for us over the other side of the world to watch a doco on how your government might be lying. 911 conspiracy theorists claim that the government are behind it and these are extremely strong allegations to make. I'm interested in how the American population in general feel about it.

What are your thoughts America?

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I, and many people I know, think that the government knows more than they've told. There's definitely things they kept underwraps. I think they had an inkling that something was going to happen, and didn't act on it.

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My thoughts are that there are many clever people making conspiracies ontop of conspiracies.

Then, when one of the theories is shot down with facts, they move to the next conspiracy.

Some of those conspiracies and documentaries seem very convincing to lay people (me very much included), but when you have expert after expert explain things, it tends not to be so real.

To keep something that is this huge so quiet would be next to impossible.

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If the government was supposedly in on the destruction of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, then why did al-Qaeda admit to it? Why is bin Laden now dead? Let me guess, there is another conspiracy that al-Qaeda isn't real and it was a bunch of Islamists in on the conspiracy with the American government to blame them and then fake the murder of Osama bin Laden? Why does everything have to be a conspiracy?

Perhaps, the more rational explanation is that the United States added embassies to holy Muslim ground and they didn't like it. Why would the government even destroy the WTC and the Pentagon exactly?

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My thoughts are that there are many clever people making conspiracies ontop of conspiracies.

Then, when one of the theories is shot down with facts, they move to the next conspiracy.

Some of those conspiracies and documentaries seem very convincing to lay people (me very much included), but when you have expert after expert explain things, it tends not to be so real.

To keep something that is this huge so quiet would be next to impossible.

And that's exactly what I would like to see, the other side of the story.

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I hate to do this, but this copy / paste is really the only one I could find with a bunch in it....

Polls are polls...One side can tell you a number from a poll, and show you, while the other side can do the same.....

Personally, I think anyone whom thinks it was anything other than terrorists, well, they are idiots.....If I had to ask 30 people at work, I am pretty certain they feel the same.

Anyway, here ya go...

Zogby

The polls that have received the most widespread media attention are those conducted by Zogby International. The Zogby polls have been sponsored by organizations within the 9/11 Truth Movement including 911truth.org.

The first one was conducted in August 2004, on the eve of a Republican National Convention, on 808 randomly-selected residents of New York State. It found that 49 percent of New York City residents and 41 percent of New York state citizens believe individuals within the US government "knew in advance that attacks were planned on or around September 11, 2001, and that they consciously failed to act".[4] The margin of error for this poll was 3.5 percent.

The second major Zogby poll on 9/11 was conducted in May 2006. It was a telephone interview of 1,200 randomly-selected adults from across the United States, consisting of 81 questions, with a 2.9 percent margin of error.[5] Some of the questions asked include the following: "Some people believe that the US government and its 9/11 Commission concealed or refused to investigate critical evidence that contradicts their official explanation of the September 11th attacks, saying there has been a cover-up. Others say that the 9/11 Commission was a bi-partisan group of honest and well-respected people and that there is no reason they would want to cover-up anything. Who are you more likely to agree with?"

  • Responses: 48% No Cover-up / 42% Cover-up / 10% Not sure

"World Trade Center Building 7 is the 47-story skyscraper that was not hit by any planes during the September 11th attacks, but still totally collapsed later the same day. This collapse was not investigated by the 9/11 Commission. Are you aware of this skyscraper's collapse, and if so do you believe that the Commission should have also investigated it? Or do you believe that the Commission was right to only investigate the collapse of the buildings which were directly hit by airplanes?"

  • Responses: 43% Not Aware / 38% Aware - should have investigated it / 14% Aware - right not to investigate it / 5% Not Sure

"Some people say that so many unanswered questions about 9/11 remain that Congress or an International Tribunal should re-investigate the attacks, including whether any US government officials consciously allowed or helped facilitate their success. Other people say the 9/11 attacks were thoroughly investigated and that any speculation about US government involvement is nonsense. Who are you more likely to agree with?"

  • Responses: 47% Attacks were thoroughly investigated / 45% Reinvestigate the attacks / 8% Not Sure

The third major Zogby poll regarding 9/11 was conducted in August 2007. It was a telephone interview with a target of 1,000 interviews with randomly-selected adults from across the United States, consisting of 71 questions, with a 3.1 percent margin of error.[6]

The results of the 2007 August poll indicate that 51% of Americans want Congress to probe Bush/Cheney regarding the 9/11 attacks and over 30% of those polled seek immediate impeachment. While only 32% seek immediate Bush and/or Cheney impeachment based on their personal knowledge, many citizens appear eager for clear exposure of the facts.

In addition, the poll also found that two-thirds (67%) of Americans say the 9/11 Commission should have investigated the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7. Only 4.8 percent of the respondents agreed that members of the United States government "actively planned or assisted some aspects of the attack."

Newsweek Magazine polls

The Newsweek Magazine poll "What America Knows", conducted Princeton Survey Research Associates International, regularly asks American citizens a wide range of questions relating to world events past and present and a number of more trivial questions of general knowledge.[7] On five occasions the following question has been asked: "Do you think Saddam Hussein’s regime in Iraq was directly involved in planning, financing, or carrying out the terrorist attacks of September 11th, 2001?"

  • September 2003 responses: 47% Yes, 37% No, 16% not sure.
  • January 2004 responses: 49% Yes, 39% No, 12% not sure.
  • September 2004 responses: 42% Yes, 44% No, 14% not sure.
  • October 2004 responses: 36% Yes, 51% No, 13% not sure.
  • June 2007 responses: 41% Yes, 50% No, 9% not sure.

New York Times / CBS News polls

The first 9/11 poll carried out by the New York Times and CBS News was conducted in May 2002. The same 9/11 related question was asked again in April 2004 and October 2006. The 2002 and 2006 polls were apparently published for the first time not by CBS or the NYTimes, but by polling researcher AngusReid.com The 2004 NY/Times CBS poll is available at NYTimes.com (Question 77).

The 2004 poll was conducted by telephone with 1024 adults nationwide in the US, with a 3% margin of error.[8] The 2006 poll was conducted by telephone on 983 randomly-selected citizens of the United States, with a 4% margin of error.[9] One of the questions was the following: "When it comes to what they knew prior to September 11th, 2001, about possible terrorist attacks against the United States, do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying?"

  • May 2002 responses: 21% said "telling the truth", 65% said they are "mostly telling the truth but hiding something", 8% said they are "mostly lying", 6% not sure.

  • 3/30-4/1/04 CBS 24% said "telling the truth", 58% said they are "mostly telling the truth but hiding something", 14% said they are "mostly lying", 4% not sure.
  • 4/8/04 CBS 21% said "telling the truth", 66% said they are "mostly telling the truth but hiding something", 10% said they are "mostly lying", 4% not sure.
  • 4/23-27/04 24% said "telling the truth", 56% said they are "mostly telling the truth but hiding something", 16% said they are "mostly lying", 4% not sure.

  • Oct 2006 responses: 16% said "telling the truth", 53% said they are "mostly telling the truth but hiding something", 28% said they are "mostly lying", 3% not sure.

New York Times / CBS News have conducted a number of polls on the Iraq War that have included the question: "Was Saddam personally involved in 9/11?"[10]

  • April 2003 responses: 53% said Yes, 38% said No.
  • October 2005 responses: 33% said Yes, 55% said No.
  • September 2006 responses: 31% said Yes, 57% said No.
  • September 2007 responses: 33% said Yes, 58% said No.

Scripps Howard polls

A poll from July 2006, sponsored by Scripps Howard and conducted by Ohio University, surveyed 1,010 randomly-selected citizens of the United States, with a margin of error of 4 percent.[11] The survey found that 36 percent thought it somewhat or very likely that U.S. officials either participated in the attacks or took no action to stop them[12] because they wanted the United States to go to war in the Middle East.[13] It made some statements relating to some of the 9/11 conspiracy theories and asked respondents to say whether they thought that the statements were likely to be true. Federal officials either assisted in the 9/11 attacks or took no action to prevent them because they wanted the United States to go to war in the Middle East.

  • 59% "not likely"
  • 20% "somewhat likely"
  • 16% "very likely"[13][14]

The collapse of the twin towers in New York was aided by explosives secretly planted in the two buildings.

  • 77% "unlikely"
  • 10% "somewhat likely"
  • 6% "very likely"[13][15]

The Pentagon was struck by a military cruise missile in 2001 rather than by an airliner captured by terrorists.

  • 80% "not likely"
  • 6% "somewhat likely"
  • 6% "very likely"[13][16]

In November 2007 Scripps Howard surveyed 811 Americans about their beliefs in several conspiracy theories and asked this question[17] How about that some people in the federal government had specific warnings of the 9/11 attacks in New York and Washington, but chose to ignore those warnings. Is this very likely, somewhat likely or unlikely?

  • 32% "Very Likely"
  • 30% "Somewhat Likely"
  • 30% "Unlikely"
  • 8% "Don't Know/Other"

Other United States polls

Rasmussen Reports published the results of their poll May 4, 2007. According to their press release, "Overall, 22% of all voters believe the President knew about the attacks in advance. A slightly larger number, 29%, believe the CIA knew about the attacks in advance. White Americans are less likely than others to believe that either the President or the CIA knew about the attacks in advance. Young Americans are more likely than their elders to believe the President or the CIA knew about the attacks in advance.", "Thirty-five percent (35%) of Democrats believe he did know, 39% say he did not know, and 26% are not sure." and "Republicans reject that view and, by a 7-to-1 margin, say the President did not know in advance about the attacks. Among those not affiliated with either major party, 18% believe the President knew and 57% take the opposite view."[18]

A poll reported in the Washington Post in September 2003 found that nearly 70 percent of respondents believed Saddam Hussein was probably personally involved in the attacks.[19]

In May 2007 the New York Post published results of a Pew Research Center poll of more than 1,000 American Muslims. It found that 40 percent agreed that "Arabs carried out the 9/11 attacks," while 28 percent disagreed. Of the 28 percent that disagreed, a quarter (7 percent) believe that the US government is responsible.[20]

In September 2009, a National Obama Approval Poll, by Public Policy Polling, found that 27% of respondents who identified themselves as Liberals, and 10% as Conservatives, responded "yes" to the question, "Do you think President Bush intentionally allowed the 9/11 attacks to take place because he wanted the United States to go to war in the Middle East?"[21]

A March 2010 poll conducted by the Angus Reid Public Opinion organization found that 15% of respondents found theories that the World Trade Center was brought down by a controlled demolition to be credible. Anywhere between 6 percent and 15 percent of respondents found credibility in claims that United Airlines Flight 93 was shot down, that no airplanes hit the Pentagon or the World Trade Center.[22]

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Pulsar, if you truly devote enough time and energy to investigating the claims regarding 911 conspiracies, at the end, you'll look back and say "what a ******* waste of time that was." Unless, of course, you buy into the bull**** that these people are peddling.

Cheers.

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I hate to do this, but this copy / paste is really the only one I could find with a bunch in it....

Polls are polls...One side can tell you a number from a poll, and show you, while the other side can do the same.....

Personally, I think anyone whom thinks it was anything other than terrorists, well, they are idiots.....If I had to ask 30 people at work, I am pretty certain they feel the same.

Anyway, here ya go...

Zogby

The polls that have received the most widespread media attention are those conducted by Zogby International. The Zogby polls have been sponsored by organizations within the 9/11 Truth Movement including 911truth.org.

The first one was conducted in August 2004, on the eve of a Republican National Convention, on 808 randomly-selected residents of New York State. It found that 49 percent of New York City residents and 41 percent of New York state citizens believe individuals within the US government "knew in advance that attacks were planned on or around September 11, 2001, and that they consciously failed to act".[4] The margin of error for this poll was 3.5 percent.

The second major Zogby poll on 9/11 was conducted in May 2006. It was a telephone interview of 1,200 randomly-selected adults from across the United States, consisting of 81 questions, with a 2.9 percent margin of error.[5] Some of the questions asked include the following: "Some people believe that the US government and its 9/11 Commission concealed or refused to investigate critical evidence that contradicts their official explanation of the September 11th attacks, saying there has been a cover-up. Others say that the 9/11 Commission was a bi-partisan group of honest and well-respected people and that there is no reason they would want to cover-up anything. Who are you more likely to agree with?"

  • Responses: 48% No Cover-up / 42% Cover-up / 10% Not sure

"World Trade Center Building 7 is the 47-story skyscraper that was not hit by any planes during the September 11th attacks, but still totally collapsed later the same day. This collapse was not investigated by the 9/11 Commission. Are you aware of this skyscraper's collapse, and if so do you believe that the Commission should have also investigated it? Or do you believe that the Commission was right to only investigate the collapse of the buildings which were directly hit by airplanes?"

  • Responses: 43% Not Aware / 38% Aware - should have investigated it / 14% Aware - right not to investigate it / 5% Not Sure

"Some people say that so many unanswered questions about 9/11 remain that Congress or an International Tribunal should re-investigate the attacks, including whether any US government officials consciously allowed or helped facilitate their success. Other people say the 9/11 attacks were thoroughly investigated and that any speculation about US government involvement is nonsense. Who are you more likely to agree with?"

  • Responses: 47% Attacks were thoroughly investigated / 45% Reinvestigate the attacks / 8% Not Sure

The third major Zogby poll regarding 9/11 was conducted in August 2007. It was a telephone interview with a target of 1,000 interviews with randomly-selected adults from across the United States, consisting of 71 questions, with a 3.1 percent margin of error.[6]

The results of the 2007 August poll indicate that 51% of Americans want Congress to probe Bush/Cheney regarding the 9/11 attacks and over 30% of those polled seek immediate impeachment. While only 32% seek immediate Bush and/or Cheney impeachment based on their personal knowledge, many citizens appear eager for clear exposure of the facts.

In addition, the poll also found that two-thirds (67%) of Americans say the 9/11 Commission should have investigated the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7. Only 4.8 percent of the respondents agreed that members of the United States government "actively planned or assisted some aspects of the attack."

Newsweek Magazine polls

The Newsweek Magazine poll "What America Knows", conducted Princeton Survey Research Associates International, regularly asks American citizens a wide range of questions relating to world events past and present and a number of more trivial questions of general knowledge.[7] On five occasions the following question has been asked: "Do you think Saddam Hussein’s regime in Iraq was directly involved in planning, financing, or carrying out the terrorist attacks of September 11th, 2001?"

  • September 2003 responses: 47% Yes, 37% No, 16% not sure.
  • January 2004 responses: 49% Yes, 39% No, 12% not sure.
  • September 2004 responses: 42% Yes, 44% No, 14% not sure.
  • October 2004 responses: 36% Yes, 51% No, 13% not sure.
  • June 2007 responses: 41% Yes, 50% No, 9% not sure.

New York Times / CBS News polls

The first 9/11 poll carried out by the New York Times and CBS News was conducted in May 2002. The same 9/11 related question was asked again in April 2004 and October 2006. The 2002 and 2006 polls were apparently published for the first time not by CBS or the NYTimes, but by polling researcher AngusReid.com The 2004 NY/Times CBS poll is available at NYTimes.com (Question 77).

The 2004 poll was conducted by telephone with 1024 adults nationwide in the US, with a 3% margin of error.[8] The 2006 poll was conducted by telephone on 983 randomly-selected citizens of the United States, with a 4% margin of error.[9] One of the questions was the following: "When it comes to what they knew prior to September 11th, 2001, about possible terrorist attacks against the United States, do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying?"

  • May 2002 responses: 21% said "telling the truth", 65% said they are "mostly telling the truth but hiding something", 8% said they are "mostly lying", 6% not sure.

  • 3/30-4/1/04 CBS 24% said "telling the truth", 58% said they are "mostly telling the truth but hiding something", 14% said they are "mostly lying", 4% not sure.
  • 4/8/04 CBS 21% said "telling the truth", 66% said they are "mostly telling the truth but hiding something", 10% said they are "mostly lying", 4% not sure.
  • 4/23-27/04 24% said "telling the truth", 56% said they are "mostly telling the truth but hiding something", 16% said they are "mostly lying", 4% not sure.

  • Oct 2006 responses: 16% said "telling the truth", 53% said they are "mostly telling the truth but hiding something", 28% said they are "mostly lying", 3% not sure.

New York Times / CBS News have conducted a number of polls on the Iraq War that have included the question: "Was Saddam personally involved in 9/11?"[10]

  • April 2003 responses: 53% said Yes, 38% said No.
  • October 2005 responses: 33% said Yes, 55% said No.
  • September 2006 responses: 31% said Yes, 57% said No.
  • September 2007 responses: 33% said Yes, 58% said No.

Scripps Howard polls

A poll from July 2006, sponsored by Scripps Howard and conducted by Ohio University, surveyed 1,010 randomly-selected citizens of the United States, with a margin of error of 4 percent.[11] The survey found that 36 percent thought it somewhat or very likely that U.S. officials either participated in the attacks or took no action to stop them[12] because they wanted the United States to go to war in the Middle East.[13] It made some statements relating to some of the 9/11 conspiracy theories and asked respondents to say whether they thought that the statements were likely to be true. Federal officials either assisted in the 9/11 attacks or took no action to prevent them because they wanted the United States to go to war in the Middle East.

  • 59% "not likely"
  • 20% "somewhat likely"
  • 16% "very likely"[13][14]

The collapse of the twin towers in New York was aided by explosives secretly planted in the two buildings.

  • 77% "unlikely"
  • 10% "somewhat likely"
  • 6% "very likely"[13][15]

The Pentagon was struck by a military cruise missile in 2001 rather than by an airliner captured by terrorists.

  • 80% "not likely"
  • 6% "somewhat likely"
  • 6% "very likely"[13][16]

In November 2007 Scripps Howard surveyed 811 Americans about their beliefs in several conspiracy theories and asked this question[17] How about that some people in the federal government had specific warnings of the 9/11 attacks in New York and Washington, but chose to ignore those warnings. Is this very likely, somewhat likely or unlikely?

  • 32% "Very Likely"
  • 30% "Somewhat Likely"
  • 30% "Unlikely"
  • 8% "Don't Know/Other"

Other United States polls

Rasmussen Reports published the results of their poll May 4, 2007. According to their press release, "Overall, 22% of all voters believe the President knew about the attacks in advance. A slightly larger number, 29%, believe the CIA knew about the attacks in advance. White Americans are less likely than others to believe that either the President or the CIA knew about the attacks in advance. Young Americans are more likely than their elders to believe the President or the CIA knew about the attacks in advance.", "Thirty-five percent (35%) of Democrats believe he did know, 39% say he did not know, and 26% are not sure." and "Republicans reject that view and, by a 7-to-1 margin, say the President did not know in advance about the attacks. Among those not affiliated with either major party, 18% believe the President knew and 57% take the opposite view."[18]

A poll reported in the Washington Post in September 2003 found that nearly 70 percent of respondents believed Saddam Hussein was probably personally involved in the attacks.[19]

In May 2007 the New York Post published results of a Pew Research Center poll of more than 1,000 American Muslims. It found that 40 percent agreed that "Arabs carried out the 9/11 attacks," while 28 percent disagreed. Of the 28 percent that disagreed, a quarter (7 percent) believe that the US government is responsible.[20]

In September 2009, a National Obama Approval Poll, by Public Policy Polling, found that 27% of respondents who identified themselves as Liberals, and 10% as Conservatives, responded "yes" to the question, "Do you think President Bush intentionally allowed the 9/11 attacks to take place because he wanted the United States to go to war in the Middle East?"[21]

A March 2010 poll conducted by the Angus Reid Public Opinion organization found that 15% of respondents found theories that the World Trade Center was brought down by a controlled demolition to be credible. Anywhere between 6 percent and 15 percent of respondents found credibility in claims that United Airlines Flight 93 was shot down, that no airplanes hit the Pentagon or the World Trade Center.[22]

Thanks Sakari. Data :) this is exactly what I was wondering.

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Pulsar, if you truly devote enough time and energy to investigating the claims regarding 911 conspiracies, at the end, you'll look back and say "what a ******* waste of time that was." Unless, of course, you buy into the bull**** that these people are peddling.

Cheers.

haha Yeah, I'm not into it heavily, at all. I saw a conspiracy theory doco on it about 5 years ago and thought nothing of it. I literally just watched a different doco 2 days ago and I was thinking at the back of my mind, I wonder what the American population think about all this. I'm very critical in what I hear & see, thanks for the heads up though.

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If the government was supposedly in on the destruction of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, then why did al-Qaeda admit to it? Why is bin Laden now dead? Let me guess, there is another conspiracy that al-Qaeda isn't real and it was a bunch of Islamists in on the conspiracy with the American government to blame them and then fake the murder of Osama bin Laden? Why does everything have to be a conspiracy?

Al CIAda is very real. The US created them. This is well known and documented. The real OSBL denied anything to do with it. Then a guy about 100 LBS bigger, the next day claimed to be OSBL, and that he did it. Hmm. Anyhow were are arming and aiding Al CIAda in Syria as we speak. We just air lifted them in from Lybia. Where thier flag now flys over government buildings.

As far as everything having to be a conspiracy, when things dont add up, chances are what we are told just isnt the truth.

Perhaps, the more rational explanation is that the United States added embassies to holy Muslim ground and they didn't like it. Why would the government even destroy the WTC and the Pentagon exactly?

The why is easy. Just look around. It would have taken us 100 years to advance the empire this far if not for 9/11. NTM how they have dismantled the constitution and bill of rights through fear.

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I'm interested in what the people of America tend to believe regarding the horrible September 11 incidents. It's easy for us over the other side of the world to watch a doco on how your government might be lying. 911 conspiracy theorists claim that the government are behind it and these are extremely strong allegations to make. I'm interested in how the American population in general feel about it.

What are your thoughts America?

I don't think that "the government was behind it" in the sense that there were active and official government actions to plan and execute the attacks. No, I do not believe that.

The US government was hijacked, decades ago at least. That is, criminals have taken over the government behind the scenes. The government is very much controlled by men who are using the government to achieve results favorable to them.

Eisenhower hinted at this in his Farewell Address in 1961, and others have commented about this hijacking over the years.

It was these criminals in control, people behind the scene, who planned and executed the attacks, all with military precision.

After the fact however, the government is officially suppressing the truth and advancing 24/7 a coverup, etching the official story into the public psyche.

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I hate to do this, but this copy / paste is really the only one I could find with a bunch in it....

Interesting, so many Americans didn't even get what the hell was going on. lol

I don't get why they even though Saddam was involved it's said to be Al Qaeda?!

I've never once heard of a connection to Saddam.

To me those polls prove that the majority of Americans (just like what I would expect of Brits etc) don't even fully understand the Iraq or Afghanistan... That's pretty shocking.

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Can't speak for the Brits, but the average american does not even know what the Constitution says or what his government is doing. After all, government actions are kept secret.

The average american believes whatever he is told by the media, which prints whatever it is told to print by the government.

It's really an upside down world when it comes to citizenship. Though it HAS been forced upon us, for the most part we have the government we deserve.

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I'm interested in what the people of America tend to believe regarding the horrible September 11 incidents.

The vast, vast majority of Americans believe the official government story regarding 9/11.

Watch this video for a really good summary of the Official Events of September 11th, 2001. See it all in under five minutes.

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In fact most Americans will emotionally attack anyone who questions the official story by asking for a more detailed investigation of the events. Skeptics learn to keep their mouths shut, lest they get a high-velocity fist put into it.

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Oh so true!

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The vast, vast majority of Americans believe the official government story regarding 9/11.

Watch this video for a really good summary of the Official Events of September 11th, 2001. See it all in under five minutes.

In fact most Americans will emotionally attack anyone who questions the official story by asking for a more detailed investigation of the events. Skeptics learn to keep their mouths shut, lest they get a high-velocity fist put into it.

Is this a valid rebuttal of the video you posted?

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Just curious about your thoughts. Thanks.

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Having watched neither, probably not a rebuttal. :no: Just another video of 2 liars talking.

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I'm interested in what the people of America tend to believe regarding the horrible September 11 incidents. It's easy for us over the other side of the world to watch a doco on how your government might be lying. 911 conspiracy theorists claim that the government are behind it and these are extremely strong allegations to make. I'm interested in how the American population in general feel about it.

What are your thoughts America?

There would have been no way for the government to carry out such an attack and not get caught with its hand in the cookie jar. American Airlnes and United Airlines are not government agencies and yet, they both reported the loss of their aircraft after the 9/11 attacks. In other words, the U.S. government was not responsible for the 9/11 attacks.

An investigation into the histories of the aircraft involved in the attacks will show that the aircraft were the properties of American Airlnes and United Airlines and have since been written off by those companies and that their airframes were in not modified as drones nor as RPVs. Systems of the B-767 and B-757, unlike older airliners, are not user-friendly to such modifications

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There would have been no way for the government to carry out such an attack and not get caught with its hand in the cookie jar. American Airlnes and United Airlines are not government agencies and yet, they both reported the loss of their aircraft after the 9/11 attacks. In other words, the U.S. government was not responsible for the 9/11 attacks.

An investigation into the histories of the aircraft involved in the attacks will show that the aircraft were the properties of American Airlnes and United Airlines and have since been written off by those companies and that their airframes were in not modified as drones nor as RPVs. Systems of the B-767 and B-757, unlike older airliners, are not user-friendly to such modifications

Here is the voice of reason. Finally.

Now wait for the fruitcake brigade to weigh in with their conspiracy theories. :gun:

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The Voice Of Reason! :tsu:

Ah, we have the government we deserve.

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Here is the voice of reason. Finally.

Now wait for the fruitcake brigade to weigh in with their conspiracy theories. :gun:

LOL....That did not take long.....

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The Voice Of Reason! :tsu:

Ah, we have the government we deserve.

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There would have been no way for the government to carry out such an attack and not get caught with its hand in the cookie jar. American Airlnes and United Airlines are not government agencies and yet, they both reported the loss of their aircraft after the 9/11 attacks. In other words, the U.S. government was not responsible for the 9/11 attacks.

An investigation into the histories of the aircraft involved in the attacks will show that the aircraft were the properties of American Airlnes and United Airlines and have since been written off by those companies and that their airframes were in not modified as drones nor as RPVs. Systems of the B-767 and B-757, unlike older airliners, are not user-friendly to such modifications

But they did get caught. Nearly everything they said was a lie. Thats from the damn 9/11 commition. The only reason they havent been held accountable is cause there are enough morons to defend them. I mean seriously, you cant think the top of a building can fall through the rest of the building AT FREE FALL SPEED, and not run into some serious physics problems. You cant Look at another building, watch it fall in the same exact mannor as every controled demolititon do on this planet and say fire did it. The ONLY reason this stupidity continues is cause main stream backs it. And where main stream goes, the sheep follow.

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But they did get caught. Nearly everything they said was a lie. Thats from the damn 9/11 commition. The only reason they havent been held accountable is cause there are enough morons to defend them. I mean seriously, you cant think the top of a building can fall through the rest of the building AT FREE FALL SPEED, and not run into some serious physics problems. You cant Look at another building, watch it fall in the same exact mannor as every controled demolititon do on this planet and say fire did it. The ONLY reason this stupidity continues is cause main stream backs it. And where main stream goes, the sheep follow.

Preacherman, I get some people want 9/11 to be the government's fault. I have no idea why they want that to be true. But after all these years I get it.

But you just don't get the facts that skyeagle posted about the planes.

An investigation into the histories of the aircraft involved in the attacks will show that the aircraft were the properties of American Airlnes and United Airlines and have since been written off by those companies and that their airframes were in not modified as drones nor as RPVs. Systems of the B-767 and B-757, unlike older airliners, are not user-friendly to such modifications

This is not made up BS. This is the truth.

The airlines and the government did not willingly, deviously or with malice send their own planes and their own citizens into their own buildings.

Accept it. It's the truth.

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My thoughts are that on any given website, you will find at least four hundred more threads on the subject of 9.11 than are perhaps strictly necessary.

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