psicohunter Posted October 3, 2004 #76 Share Posted October 3, 2004 Panther the tax cut was aimed for the upper class well off, these types of cuts always make the rich richer and the poor poorer. In the end the lower calsses always pay an unfair share of tax under a right wing government. Which unfortunatley for americans is all mtheyre ever gonna get because both the Republicans AND the Democrats would be considered right wing in most other country's accross the globe. 288968[/snapback] good you see the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar Posted October 3, 2004 #77 Share Posted October 3, 2004 One . its spelled Scotland Sorry! Thats what I was gonna write at first, but I thought I saw a double t in someones location info... Two . Jesus lol do you think its the middle ages here lol? , We have digital here too we get 24 hr fox news , cnn news, cbs, hell we get a couple of chinese new stations two. I live 1 km north of the US border, and I dont even get cnn and fox! Babs do yopu think id be commenting on Fox news if I wasnt watching it on a daily basis?? Its a novel idea to learn about something first then comment. Its spelled "you" Anyway, lots of people make comments even though they didnt learn about what they're commenting on... So no it wasnt a good point , but once again what shines through is just ignorance about another country. 288944[/snapback] Do you know what TV channels they get in, lets say, Poland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunarmdscissor Posted October 3, 2004 #78 Share Posted October 3, 2004 LOL touche on the spelling , i was only joking about that BTW lol. We dont get all those news channels on terrestial Televsion here or "council tele" as its known in Glasgow lol. But if you have Digital you get about 500 channels from all over the world including all the Sky channels of course. Most people here have digital now anyway but on our terrestial we onnly get 5 channels , lol how crap is that lol? I do actually no the Major Polish news channel which is state run and called TVP and tehyre are a couple of commercial stations called Polsat and TVN. Just as i could name German , French and Dutch media outlets. The BBC regularly shows news taken from these countries and on the BBC website you can find out loads of stuff about other nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted October 3, 2004 #79 Share Posted October 3, 2004 You questioned the reliability of CBS , i simply questioned the reliability of a new station which leans to the right, and a news station which many of the right wing minded memebrs of the forum frequently quote especially babs. BTW babs as well what does me not living in the US have to do with nething, i get as wide a variety of coverage on current events in The UK as you do , i get all the same news channels as you do and i watch them all not just one. 288962[/snapback] Yo! you're kidding, right?! Living in a country and being born and raised in a country is certainly completely different than listening to some news channel over in Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunarmdscissor Posted October 3, 2004 #80 Share Posted October 3, 2004 do u even know anything about my country?? Our countries are very very similar, thats why americans and britons get on so well, we have very very similar cultures. OUr political system is has just been around for longer so our system is a little further on. Hence the far more left wing mindset in all the older european countrys , just as your country is slowly but surely beginning to welcome more left wing policies all the time. This means that I CAN comment on america because it isnt vastly different than being raised in the UK. As a pose to china a country which is culturally completley different and i have no real understanding of their values , laws etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar Posted October 3, 2004 #81 Share Posted October 3, 2004 LOL touche on the spelling , i was only joking about that BTW lol. So was I We dont get all those news channels on terrestial Televsion here or "council tele" as its known in Glasgow lol. But if you have Digital you get about 500 channels from all over the world including all the Sky channels of course. Most people here have digital now anyway but on our terrestial we onnly get 5 channels , lol how crap is that lol? Lol! I understand what you mean. Canada has cable, digital and satellite though, which is cool. I used to have satellite, but moved and now am stuck on cable. Plus, the bad weather here doesnt help the cause for satellite. I do actually no the Major Polish news channel which is state run and called TVP and tehyre are a couple of commercial stations called Polsat and TVN. Yes, but do you know exactly what channels and how much are on polish tv? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunarmdscissor Posted October 4, 2004 #82 Share Posted October 4, 2004 Aww come on i dont know every tv station in every major nation accross the world, to learn that would somewhat effect my current studying lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panther10758 Posted October 4, 2004 #83 Share Posted October 4, 2004 Its the upper class that pays the Taxes and supports the country so why shouldn't they get a break! Further more the lower class contribute very little. Its the Democrats who want "give aways" to the poor that keep them poor. Anyone can earn a decent living in this country it only requires hard work. Tax cuts mean money in your pocket and its simple math the more you make the more you save on tax cut. The poor aren't made poorer they only don't receive as big a cut. Lastly its these upper class persons who are now saving will have funds to higher the poor, if they decide to work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twpdyp Posted October 4, 2004 #84 Share Posted October 4, 2004 Well said panther, it is the rich who own the companies that pay the vast majority of our salaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celumnaz Posted October 4, 2004 #85 Share Posted October 4, 2004 A poor man has never payed my bills. I have never worked for a poor man. Small business is our nations larges employer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twpdyp Posted October 4, 2004 #86 Share Posted October 4, 2004 and small business is owned by people in the upper income brackets, correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_Again Posted October 4, 2004 #87 Share Posted October 4, 2004 And to some movie stars that make a millions of dollars a movie...while our teachers make 30-40 thousand a year. In my opinion something is wrong with this picture... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celumnaz Posted October 4, 2004 #88 Share Posted October 4, 2004 And to some movie stars that make a millions of dollars a movie...while our teachers make 30-40 thousand a year. In my opinion something is wrong with this picture... 290300[/snapback] Totally agree with that. And about the upper income brackets, I guess you could say yes, depending on your perspective you could say no. To me, most of them are upper-middle class, but I don't know about talking about 'classes' of people, the black vote, the women vote, shouldn't we just be people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twpdyp Posted October 4, 2004 #89 Share Posted October 4, 2004 Me_Again Do you want teachers to be teachers because it pays well or because they have an inner drive to be teachers? In any profession I believe it takes more than money to be sucessful and motivated. Hey don't blame the actors or athletes for accepting the money blame the people who offer that kind of money. If my employer offered me millions to do a job that I currently get $55,000 for, you can bet I would not only take the money but I would take it with a smile on my face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panther10758 Posted October 4, 2004 #90 Share Posted October 4, 2004 The reason Sports Stars and movie stars earn so much is because WE the public allow it! I totally agree with comment by twpdyp. the compareing of Movie Stars to teachers is Apples and Oranges is it lopsided yes but still I rather my childrens teachers be driven by a desire to help rather than a desire to make BIG bucks but I do agree Teachers are under paid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twpdyp Posted October 4, 2004 #91 Share Posted October 4, 2004 Panther I forgot to add that last bit. Yes teachers are grossly under paid. I could not agree more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_Again Posted October 5, 2004 #92 Share Posted October 5, 2004 What I was trying to say was this...Corporate America needs to be transformed I truely have a job, that I love. I could make just as much money working at McDonalds, but I wouldn't be as happy. If we had a presidency that wasn't based on having money, the world would surely be a different place. But I am a dreamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunarmdscissor Posted October 5, 2004 #93 Share Posted October 5, 2004 Its the upper class that pays the Taxes and supports the country so why shouldn't they get a break! Further more the lower class contribute very little. Its the Democrats who want "give aways" to the poor that keep them poor. Anyone can earn a decent living in this country it only requires hard work. Tax cuts mean money in your pocket and its simple math the more you make the more you save on tax cut. The poor aren't made poorer they only don't receive as big a cut. Lastly its these upper class persons who are now saving will have funds to higher the poor, if they decide to work! Rubbish , The Upper Class do not support the lower classes its the other way around lol. The Upper class are only in that position from exploiting the lower classes and keeping them down. The reason in your country it will never change is that you dont have a proper left wing party who gives you proper socialist ideals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panther10758 Posted October 5, 2004 #94 Share Posted October 5, 2004 Wrong its the Upper class that employs the lower class and supports this country. they pay higher taxes they spend more and they employ more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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