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Sirius and Alnilam, Secret Societies

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Alignment below showing Sirius in middle of sky for 11:30am on 6th July 1912 for Stockholm Olympics in 1912:-

http://2012forum.com...=6869&mode=view

Hi Helen, i have interest in link below, keep your eye on it as perhaps members may battle with me Ha Ha!

http://www.unexplain...howtopic=240420

I sit in the middle of how many different secret societies value Sirius and Belt of Orion, i feel that these stars are just batteries but don't show right or wrong, evil or good is in how humans use these stars....the stars themselves are not evil.

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Hi Reann,

Thats the million dollar question, obviously Olympics are not using Sirius as anything evil and is probably thought of as a good influence, but as you backtrack through the pages on link below, both Alnilam and Sirius has come up on recent massacres in United States:-

http://www.unexplain...c=237877&st=165

I will continue with Olympics later today.

Hi Monk !!!

there's so much here that you've shared .Is What is it though about Sirius that all these things , these events that have happened have occurred somehow with some connection to Sirius? I just can't really get it, because isn't Sirius always there anyway? Does it really have an effect on people? There's something mysterious and something there being manipulated by people . In the bible it says that God placed the planets and stars in the sky for signs and for wonders, i think it says stars too , that I'm not sure about. I wanted to share this link here with you on Sirius. I still haven't had the time to read over this thread like i want to, i find it so interesting.

http://www.souledout.org/cosmology/cossynthreflects/sirius.html

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Reann,

Thanks for the link. Most of the info was new to me. If Sirius is our local solar system powerhouse, and the ancients were aware of it, it does explain much.

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Hi Reann,

Yes Sirius is always there at some location of the Earth, but esoteric secret societies like to have it placed on an angle, these are the four cardinal points of North, South, East or West, meaning it will be rising, setting, middle of the sky or the Nadir.

One way is day marking by midnight or Sun worship, sunrise or sunset, the other way is actual time, astrologers feel that the stars have more power when aligned to these points. When President Lincoln was assassinated, the act was aligned to actual time of 10:15pm/22:15pm on Good Friday 14th April 1865 at Ford's theatre, Washington DC, Sirius was setting along horizon in the West when the poor man was shot in the back of the head, THE ACT WAS TIMED FOR THIS TO HAPPEN, please scroll down link below to Spring of 1865:-

http://www.fordstheatre.org/home/explore-lincoln/learn-story/fords-theatre-history

Astronomy graph below showing Sirius setting at 22:15pm in West at location on date:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6832&mode=view

Hi Reann, don't think i'm being patronizing if i say it can be difficult to understand astronomy and astrology, hopefully you will understand about the four cardinal points on link below:-

http://www.astro.com/astrology/cw_astro_houses_e.htm

I will leave Olympics for a while to look at the four presidents that have been assassinated in U.S. history.

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The Oneida Community produced two assassins of U.S. Presidents, i would say that is beyond coincidence, you may think differently, James A. Garfield was assassinated by Charles J. Guiteau on 2nd July 1881, in this case actual time wasn't used, he aligned the day of assassination by midnight day marker at location in Washington DC, Sirius was aligned to the Nadir angle, information below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_James_A._Garfield

Astrology angles shown below by the thick lines (Cardinal Points using midnight day marker, Sirius on Nadir).

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3906&mode=view

So next we must look at Leon Czolgosz who assassinated President William McKinley, he had also been a member of Oneida Community cult, please scroll down to "Legacy" on Link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneida_Community

Also read link below:-

http://www.asmainegoes.com/content/tom-mclaughlin-we%E2%80%99re-trouble

So next we will look at President McKinley assassination!

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So now it gets complicated Reann, you have no idea of the debate that has raged for centuries by astrologers regarding accurately plotting fixed stars, the paran is accurate, and is used by astronomers, but don't get into a debate with some astrologers ha ha, they get enraged!

The Projected measure that some astrologers use on fixed stars isn't accurate, to get an idea of the debate please read link below:-

http://astrologeratlarge.com/Articles-Ecliptic.html

As you have noted there are several ways to align an assassination, ancient Greek style day marker aligns the day to sunset, like Florentine Calendar, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florentine_calendar

So link below shows date as 6th September 1901 for assassination, but perhaps Leon Czolgosz was using inaccurate Projected astrology measure for Alnilam, Belt of Orion, so as Sun set on 5th September 1901 in Buffalo, New York, Alnilam was aligned within one degree of the Nadir in Gemini by inaccurate projected measure, hell all i show is about beliefs of humans involved in strange cults, graph also below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_William_McKinley

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6918&mode=view

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Hi Reann,

Yes Sirius is always there at some location of the Earth, but esoteric secret societies like to have it placed on an angle, these are the four cardinal points of North, South, East or West, meaning it will be rising, setting, middle of the sky or the Nadir.

One way is day marking by midnight or Sun worship, sunrise or sunset, the other way is actual time, astrologers feel that the stars have more power when aligned to these points. When President Lincoln was assassinated, the act was aligned to actual time of 10:15pm/22:15pm on Good Friday 14th April 1865 at Ford's theatre, Washington DC, Sirius was setting along horizon in the West when the poor man was shot in the back of the head, THE ACT WAS TIMED FOR THIS TO HAPPEN, please scroll down link below to Spring of 1865:-

http://www.fordsthea...theatre-history

Astronomy graph below showing Sirius setting at 22:15pm in West at location on date:-

http://2012forum.com...=6832&mode=view

Hi Reann, don't think i'm being patronizing if i say it can be difficult to understand astronomy and astrology, hopefully you will understand about the four cardinal points on link below:-

http://www.astro.com...ro_houses_e.htm

I will leave Olympics for a while to look at the four presidents that have been assassinated in U.S. history.

No....I don't think that at all Monk. I like learning from you. I'm thankful that you share all this..Astrology get's difficult for me to understand in degrees and points of latitude and longitude ,angles , everything , time, all of it.. cusps , the meaning of planetary alignments, asteroids all of it, it's overwhelming to understand completely and master.. I have a general sense of it all though, even if and when i don't make any sense in explaining myself at times.

That's really messed up about Lincoln..It's all so bitter to swallow , for some it's unbelievable and maybe that's why it's happening.

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So now it gets complicated Reann, you have no idea of the debate that has raged for centuries by astrologers regarding accurately plotting fixed stars, the paran is accurate, and is used by astronomers, but don't get into a debate with some astrologers ha ha, they get enraged!

The Projected measure that some astrologers use on fixed stars isn't accurate, to get an idea of the debate please read link below:-

http://astrologeratl...s-Ecliptic.html

As you have noted there are several ways to align an assassination, ancient Greek style day marker aligns the day to sunset, like Florentine Calendar, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia....entine_calendar

So link below shows date as 6th September 1901 for assassination, but perhaps Leon Czolgosz was using inaccurate Projected astrology measure for Alnilam, Belt of Orion, so as Sun set on 5th September 1901 in Buffalo, New York, Alnilam was aligned within one degree of the Nadir in Gemini by inaccurate projected measure, hell all i show is about beliefs of humans involved in strange cults, graph also below:-

http://en.wikipedia....illiam_McKinley

http://2012forum.com...=6918&mode=view

It's just strange for me to picture some of our past and now presidents and leaders actually depending on astrology.They just don't hold that look about them or something. I have no problem with picturing Washington or someone like Franklin utilizing astrology though, I can actually envision them and some others utilizing the technique... but who are our country's leaders depending on now as the major astrologer for them in this belief? Have you ever wondered that? Like i connect a lot of people running the currency and politics as one in the same like minded people.I don't really think any of them are Christians even when they say they are...I think they are connected and practice this Egyptian belief still . I don't think it's good though. I think astrology is good but i don't understand why they pick certain days to strike on. Do they know something that we don;t know about something? What is it that they believe ?

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IDo they know something that we don;t know about something? What is it that they believe ?

Ditto! I'm wondering the same.

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Ditto! I'm wondering the same.

yeah , I've always wondered about that too ..oh and you're welcome for that link.

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Hi Reann and Winter Summer,

I have already posted stuff about John F. Kennedy's Eternal Flame on another thread but i will include it here, as i have a little more to say, strangely with assassination there wasn't any alignments to Sirius or Alnilam, so perhaps secret societies were not involved, however i have found that a few align to Regulus, so i find death slightly suspicious, as date did have a Regulus alignment.

However i'm more interested in his Eternal Flame, which when you think about it is similiar to torch bearers in Olympics, information below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy_Eternal_Flame

Date of opening was 15th March 1967 in Arlington, Virginia, sometimes for eternal flames ancient Greek day marker will be aligned for actual day, the Egyptians thought that as Ra/Sun set the Sun died and was reborn at sunrise, the last post or taps may show the symbolism attached by link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taps

As sun set at location on 15th March 1967, Alnilam was in the middle of the sky, astronomy graph below:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6915&mode=view

I'm far more interested in Bobby Kennedy's assassination, which i will explain next!

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Before we look at the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy, i must explain something with our Gregorian Calendar, which is nearly the same as the Julian Calendar but has 3 less leap days in every four hundred years, how this is taken off is at the beginning of every century, 1600 had a leap day in February but 1700, 1800 and 1900 didn't, but 2000 did.

So if we were looking at Los Angeles, California from 1900 to 1999, Sirius was setting with the Sun on 4th June, but because of the leap day in 2000, Sirius set with the Sun within one degree or four minutes of time a day later on 5th June. So if i was looking at 06/06/06 by ancient Greek measure being previous sunset at location, Sirius set with the Sun on 5th June 2006.

The reasons for this is Axial Precession and how our calendar works, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_precession

Obviously you see why i explain this by link below:-

http://www.churchofsatan.com/Pages/666SHighMass.html

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I find the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy highly suspicious, links below:-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/6169006.stm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Robert_F._Kennedy

He was shot at 12:15am on 5th June 1968 in Los Angeles, California, i think this was linked to a secret society who day marked it by ancient Greek day marker, being sunset on 4th June 1968, when Sirius set with the Sun in the West at location! Astronomy graph on link below:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3716&mode=view

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By 06/06/06 for Satanic Black Mass, Sirius had moved to being aligned at sunset on 5th June 2006, thus alignment was used again in Los Angeles, California. The Film industry used same date to release remake of The Omen, astronomy graph below:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=4994&mode=view

Next i will look at the Ronald Reagan assassination attempt, should be interesting!

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Hi Reann and Winter Summer,

I have already posted stuff about John F. Kennedy's Eternal Flame on another thread but i will include it here, as i have a little more to say, strangely with assassination there wasn't any alignments to Sirius or Alnilam, so perhaps secret societies were not involved, however i have found that a few align to Regulus, so i find death slightly suspicious, as date did have a Regulus alignment.

However i'm more interested in his Eternal Flame, which when you think about it is similiar to torch bearers in Olympics, information below:-

http://en.wikipedia....y_Eternal_Flame

Date of opening was 15th March 1967 in Arlington, Virginia, sometimes for eternal flames ancient Greek day marker will be aligned for actual day, the Egyptians thought that as Ra/Sun set the Sun died and was reborn at sunrise, the last post or taps may show the symbolism attached by link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taps

As sun set at location on 15th March 1967, Alnilam was in the middle of the sky, astronomy graph below:-

http://2012forum.com...=6915&mode=view

I'm far more interested in Bobby Kennedy's assassination, which i will explain next!

I never knew the lyrics for taps...actually they're beautiful .

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Hi Reann,

Although President Reagan assassination attempt didn't work, it gives us many questions, actually i find it very suspicious with BIZARRE COINCIDENCES regarding the father of John Hinckley Jr. and George H.W.Bush Snr., links below:-

http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/HinckleyAndBush.htm

Please research before we go further!

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There is little debate on this thread, so how do i get debate on this Unexplained Mysteries web-site, please note i have to create openings where others may dispute, to fill in gaps i have to create where openings may happen with dispute....perhaps i may have made members dispute with me regarding other threads?

After all looking at my thread....there is very little dispute, after 10.000 hits, obviously members want me to create dispute, to see overall, perhaps i have tried to create this, only honesty will show, perhaps i will show a gap with intention, regarding dispute?

After all i have to create dispute on my thread sections, and create openings for dispute, do we only learn by this? Obviously if i don't create an opening here, no one will attack me, i feel that is obvious after 10,000 hits, hell i need to make myself open to attack, can you see the reasoning to get juices flowing?

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Hinckley assassination attempt happened on 30th March 1981, please try to show i'm wrong, ancient Greek day marker would have been sunset previous by all i show:-

You know this happened in Washington, DC on date, look it up....look at sunset previous at location, astronomy below:-

http://2012forum.com...=6920&mode=view

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_assassination_attempt

Be polite, with investigation, i will respond the same, if you say i'm a nut, i will respond in a negative reply, this will not happen if polite!

As Sun set previous, Sirius was in middle of sky.....i am moderate in debate hugely, but i may react if you say i'm a "Nut", the choice is for you, be polite!

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When i talk of an assassins Creed it has nothing to do with a video game, which doesn't interest me, the real assassins creed is very real and goes back thousands of years, and i can follow it back to the Ides of March, being 15th March 0044BC, ancient Greek day marker was applied at sunset on 14th March 0044 BC while Sirius was in the auspicious position of the centre of the sky in Rome, intentional day marking for the assassination of Julius Caesar, you will note it is the same alignment as the attemped assassination of Ronald Reagan, information and astronomy graph below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ides_of_March

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3844&mode=view

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On Saturday 5th January 2013 there was another massacre in Aurora, Colorado, obviously some of this may be due to synchronicity involving Sirius and Alnilam regarding recent American massacres, information below:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20923201

Ancient Greek day marker at location shown below on link, sunset previous, as sun set, Alnilam was rising!

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6919&mode=view

Please read thread section #161 on page 11 below:-

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=237877&st=150

Please read from thread section #171 down on page 12, all this is weird:-

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=237877&st=165

I will finish off Olympics next!

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My last thread section about Olympics was 1912 several pages back, so now we can go on to the 1908 Olympics in London, these early ones were very fuzzy and confusing, seemimgly very spread out, April 27th 1908 to October 31st 1908, however thats not when the Athletics Stadium was opened. Obviously in 1948 the Summer Olympics was also in London, which opened at 4pm on 29th July 1948, when Alnilam, Belt of Orion was setting along the horizon in West at location, information and astronomy graph below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Summer_Olympics

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6677&mode=view

Strangely the 1908 London Olympics seems to have used the same method, and time as i will explain on next thread section.

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Although it seems strange to us now regarding the 1908 London Olympics lasting 6 months with events, i'm interested about date of opening of the Athletics Stadium.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1908_Summer_Olympics

The above link doesn't mention this, but link below does, being13th July 1908:-

http://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/summer/1908/

The official report link below mentions that King Edward VII arrived at the Olympic Stadium at 3:49pm and i estimate opening at 4pm.

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6865&mode=view

At 3:49pm at location in London, Sirius was setting in the West, at estimated time of opening of Athletics Stadium being 4pm. Alnilam was setting in the West, both graphs are on link below:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6866&mode=view

Obviously the 1948 London Olympics started at 4pm on 29th July 1948, while Alnilam was setting and now i say that Alnilam was also setting on 13th July 1908, usaully this could not happen, but the reason is British Summer Time wasn't adopted until W.W.1. but was in force on 29th July 1948, thus on two different dates at 4pm we get the Alnilam alignment!

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In 1901 the I.O.C. met in Paris for election bids to find the host city for the 1904 Olympics, this started on 21st May 1901, it was a shambles as Chicago defaulted and St. Louis, Missouri was successful in the end, part of official report below, the assassination of President William McKinley didn't help this process:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6870&mode=view

However this I.O.C. meeting was aligned to Sirius and Alnilam by ancient Greek day marker, as Sun set on 20th May 1901 in Paris, it did so with both stars! Ancient Greek day marker is the same in a lot of aspects to the Florentine Calendar:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florentine_calendar

Astronomy graph on link below:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6871&mode=view

I thought i would also give a link below for British Summer Time which will help you understand the 1948 and 1908 London Olympics, Summer time was started in 1916:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Summer_Time

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The 1904 and 1900 Olympics were just part of a World Fair, but link below shows that opening Ceremony for the St. Louis, Missouri 1904 Olympics was held on 1st July 1904:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1904_Summer_Olympics

Within four minutes of the midnight day marker at location both the Sun and Sirius were aligned to the Nadir, astronomy graph below:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6876&mode=view

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