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Sirius and Alnilam, Secret Societies

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Obviously Oak Ridge Cemetery dedication relates to 24th May 1860 at location, ancient Greek day marker on day as shown with above links!....Alnilam sets with Sun at location on actual day!

However Midnight day marker shown on dedication of Lincoln Tomb, noted as 15th October 1874 on link below, look for "11":-

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/j/jala/2629860.0027.105/--transformation-of-the-lincoln-tomb?rgn=main;view=fulltext

It must be noted on 15th October 1874 at location Sirius was rising using midnight day marker, graphs below:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=7201&mode=view

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Obelisk regarding Lincoln Tomb below:-

The reason that Lincoln Statue Nose is golden, is by superstitious people rubbing it for luck!

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It must be noted that John Wilkes Booth's favourite role was "BRUTUS", under Theatrical Career headline below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wilkes_Booth

Ancient Greek day marker applied to original Brutus/Caesar Assassination below being 15th March 0044BC, the Ides of March:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sic_semper_tyrannis

Sunset previous applies on astronomy graph below, as Sun set SIRIUS was in middle of sky at location of Rome!

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3844&mode=view

Obviously John Wilkes Booth only found out that President Lincoln would be in Ford's Theatre Earlier in the day of 14th April 1865, being Good Friday, it is highly possible he saw connection in symbolism, the Romans killed both Julius Caesar and Jesus!

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Obviously with history and astronomy, few know how i play yet!

Please note "Monk's" try to record history accurately, thats my job...any wanna mess yet?

Lots to come, i'm waiting?

However please note i don't understand synchronicity, as a recorder of history, there is something missing that i don't fully understand....

Perhaps God Thing?

http://en.wikipedia....i/Synchronicity

I'm waiting!

Using the hammer of conjecture with the crowbar of supposition to try to make history fit your hypothesis is not, nor can it be construed in any way as recording history, much less recording history accurately. A hypothesis that has had no evidence supplied to support it is nothing more than belief and to present it as more than that does not in any way validate it.

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I'm finished with United States for a while, i'll move on to United Kingdom, tomorrow we will look at this, however please note United Kingdom is slightly different to the many constitutions i show in this thread:-

So you understand me, i show link beforehand:-

http://en.wikipedia....ain_and_Ireland

You can guess what i will show regarding accurate astronomy, sunrise, sunset or midnight at location!

Edited by monk 56

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Sometimes members must note difference between Gregorian Calendar and Julian Calendar, they are the same, only difference is a leap year at the end of a century in a period of 400 years, the Gregorian Calendar has 3 less leap year dates over 400 years that come into play at end of century.

The revised calendar was put up for adoption in Rome in 1582, the difference being 1600 would be a leap year, 1700, 1800, and 1900 are not leap years but 2000 was!

The difference with Julian Calendar is every four years is a leap year, even at end of century.

England didn't adopt the Gregorian Calendar until 1752, astronomy programmes use 1582, so we need to add days to bring into synch with what an astronomy programme can tell us!

In 1582 the difference was 10 days, yet after 1700 the difference was 11 days!

So firstly i'm looking at the joining of Scotland and England that took effect on 1st May 1707, please note i have to add 11 days to bring in synch with astronomy programmes that follow Gregorian dates after 1582, so we must look at 12th May 1707 for alignments, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acts_of_Union_1707

The Scottish Parliament was in Edinburgh:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_of_Scotland

So after adding 11 days to 1st May 1707, we would expect to see an alignment either in London or Edinburgh.

It was shown in Edinburgh, the Sun set on the Scottish Parliament using Gregorian Calendar on 12th May 1707, Sun set with Alnilam, Belt of Orion at location, i will show astronomy graph on next thread section.

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U.K. started using Gregorian Calendar in 1752, so we don't have a problem adding days to 1st January 1801, being when Britain and Ireland joined in union to become United Kingdom.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_of_Great_Britain_and_Ireland

On 1st January 1801, using midnight day marker, Sirius was culminating in the middle of the sky over the Palace of Westminster, London, astronomy graphs for last two thread sections can be seen below:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=7202&mode=view

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Obviously when two Calendars are in place in different parts of Europe in history, this can be difficult for the general reader to understand these differences, i fully understand, perhaps link below can help you to understand me:-

http://www.cslib.org/CalendarChange.htm

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After nearly 300 years, Scotland managed to get its parliament back although this is only a partial separation from the Palace of Westminster, as shown below:-

http://www.scottish....earn/25488.aspx

This historic event regarding partial separation happened on 1st July 1999, as shown on video below:-

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The event happened in Edinburgh, however it was recorded in the stars at location of Westminster, London, they used midnight day marker for 1st July 1999, while Alnilam, Belt of Orion was aligned to the NADIR, graph on link below:-

http://2012forum.com...=7204&mode=view

Edited by monk 56

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I thought the ancient Statute of Rhuddlan would interest with joining Wales to the English Crown:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_Rhuddlan

This happened with promulgation on 19th March 1284 at Rhuddlan Castle, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhuddlan_Castle

At Rhuddlan castle location on 19th March 1284, as Sun rose, Sirius was on the NADIR, being due North in Northern Hemisphere, graph on link below:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=7203&mode=view

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Using the hammer of conjecture with the crowbar of supposition to try to make history fit your hypothesis is not, nor can it be construed in any way as recording history, much less recording history accurately. A hypothesis that has had no evidence supplied to support it is nothing more than belief and to present it as more than that does not in any way validate it.

You can see just how much monk is interested in discussing anything, and how interested he is formulating a coherent theory to explain his "observations". He's obviously confused this forum for his own personal blog.

--Jaylemurph

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In astrology there are four special points....by longitude the Midheaven (M.C. or Medium Coeli) becomes important when a star is within one degree of it, this point is found in astronomy by drawing a line up from Due South in the Northern Hemisphereto the point of overhead, in the Southern Hemisphere the same applies but the line is up from Due North.

Explanation of the Midheaven can be seen on links below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenith

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midheaven

So if we were looking for the midnight culmination of Sirius on the Prime Meridian, meaning the highest point that the star reaches in the sky using the midnight day marker, this only happens once in a year, being midnight on 1st January.

A famous astronomer Jack Horkheimer explains how he was astonished to find the calendar star of the start of the Egyptian Calendar was aligned to New Year of the Gregorian Calendar, links below:-

http://en.wikipedia....Jack_Horkheimer

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=4550&mode=view

You can find comments by scrolling down link below to 12/26/2005:-

http://www.jackstarg...ts_dec2005.html

The Imum Coeli (I.C. or Nadir) is opposite to the midheaven as explained below:-

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Imum_Coeli

I'll explain the point of latitude next.

Edited by monk 56

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By Latitude we have another important point called the Ascendant, where the Sun rises along the horizon in a easterly direction, which at location is explained below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascendant

Please note that meaning given is for birth chart analysis and meaning is completely different for political astrology called Mundane Astrology. As i'm explaining about Sun Worship i'm only interested in when the Sun rises or sets.

The opposite to the Ascendant is the Descendant, where the Sun sets along the horizon in a westerly direction at location, that should be obvious!

These are the four points that astrology conscious secret societies use in intentional astrology at locations, this is called Electional Astrology. They day mark the event at Egyptian Sunrise Day Marker, ancient Greek Sunset day marker, or the much later Midnight day marker that was added as the minute hand of the clock was invented!

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10705808

Obviously there are three day starts to four directions as explained previously, so there are four directions to midnight day marker, four directions to Sunrise day marker and four directions to Sunset day marker. Secret Societies align to two stars being Sirius, the Isis Star and Alnilam, Belt of Orion being Osiris Star.

These type of beliefs are related to Hermeticism, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetism,_Hermeticism_and_other_thought_systems

There are many beliefs attached to Sirius, Albert Pike noted it was the Blazing Star of Masonic Lodges in his book "Morals and Dogma".

Obviously some of the beliefs that secret societies hold about the origin of Sun and Sirius worship aren't true and must be valued as pseudoscience, however this has effected dates chosen in history by intentional alignments to important buildings, military, constitutions, war, terrorism and assassinations, i'll finish explanation on next thread section.

http://www.harrypotterforseekers.com/articles/siriusforseekers.php

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So to recap, secret societies use Sunrise, Sunset or Midnight to choose a day for important events, but also look to align Sirius or Alnilam, Belt of Orion on one of the four directions at location of event.

This means for Sirius there are 12 permutations in a year, being 3 day starts to 4 directions, the same applies to Alnilam Belt of Orion, this makes 24 days that this would be possible in a year of 365 days, however in practice this is inaccurate as in any location you get at least a double up twice on the same day between Sirius and Alnilam and in the modern world in a lot of locations we lose a midnight alignment due to Summer Time Application.

So the average is 21 alignments in a year of 365 days using a margin of 1 degree that is equal to 4 minutes of time. 1 degree is standard for astrologers to use on fixed stars! The reason for this is the apparent motions of the Sun.

During the year the Earth moves around the Sun. As a result the Sun appears to move around the sky once with respect to the stars as seen from Earth. Earth takes about 365 and a quarter days to travel around the Sun. Since the Earth moves around the Sun and we are resident on the Earth, it means that the Sun appears to shift in the sky about 1 degree per day, which is equal to 4 minutes of time.

Obviously understanding of Axial Precession is needed to fully understand my explanation, the odds of my research happening by coincidence is very small!

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So to recap, secret societies use Sunrise, Sunset or Midnight to choose a day for important events, but also look to align Sirius or Alnilam, Belt of Orion on one of the four directions at location of event.

Richard C Hoagland mention the same thing basically long ago, but didnt limit the time.

Richard included explanations and mention other things as well such as 33 degrees and

19.5 (19.47) on some his web pages and video.

heres 1 page - http://www.enterpris...coincidence.htm

on a personal note, i think the secret societies are clueless :)

Edited by samspade

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Hi SamSpade,

I like you, you are polite, i have never said that Pseudoscience is anything other than clueless however like INQUISITION with strange beliefs that are not accurate to origin to Egyptians, i'm not keen on Richard C. Hoagland, he doesn't show exact times as i do, it must be noted i'm not a David Icke Fan, but show astronomy throughout history regarding Pseudoscience beliefs that effect history that seem intentional....completely different....Pseudoscience can effect history, but be not true to origin, please note difference with politics, I'll Be Back!

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I want conclude regarding most secret societies. Freemasons. Stupid they are. LIFELESS. Wolf in sheep cloth. They build their cult based on genius ancient , but they are ignorant, immoral, evil. They have a crystal like structure, but there is no soul in it. " A PRINCE OF THE WORLD " they as Jesus spoke to them. May be they wish to bring to the world harmony salvation, but they can't because they are vermon. They bring chao to this planet. The lion of Judah will come and throw them to the deep pit. Those dead freemasons.

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Dear Abba Mudda,

It must be noted that you use your beliefs for personal development, you are not trying to control the world, many try to use factors in a political sense in twisting ancient Neolithic beliefs regarding Sirius, so you are not trying to twist ancient beliefs into some sort of political gain....big difference, and how Sirius belief has been twisted by the political from the dawn of time, to control the population!

I would say your belief is about personal faith, you are not involved in twisted political gain, it does spook me, as belief about Sirius goes back to Neolithic period!

Who would use the Swastika now, after Hitler got his paws on it? He twisted ancient beliefs to gain control, no one would use it now either right handed or left handed, however originally it was a symbol of good luck in India!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windsor_Swastikas

Ride shotgun all you like, but a great deal of Sirius belief has been twisted since the dawn of time for political gain!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riding_shotgun

I'm going to deal with Hitler next!

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Something pretty tasty is ADLERTAG, about when Hitler really got Sirius about attacking and blowing away the political influence in London the date is 13th August 1940, and is crucial in the Battle of Britain!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adlertag

Obviously we have astronomy forums to this forum, they are timid in attacking me, so what star rose with the Sun on Adlertag in London on 13th August 1940?????

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While you are working this out with timid astronomers, don't say there isn't a connection with Hitler beliefs and "The Ride of the Valkyries" with German Airforce, oops time for music!

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Who ever said that Hitler was sane regarding very ancient beliefs, he twisted them for political gain?

Edited by monk 56

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Posted (edited)

i'm not keen on Richard C. Hoagland, he doesn't show exact times as i do

?

Richard did list times on that webpage.

anyhow i tend to believe in jesus, more so after a series of events in my life.

im not one of the 2 witness in revelations,

but i believe that some souls here came to witness certain things,

i believe i done my part :) since i master the mysteries of the pyramid long ago :)

Edited by samspade

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I hope i don't offend you, Sam Spade, but you are NAIVE over who you quote in definition being Richard C. Hoagland, with accurate astronomy data!

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/naive

http://www.enterpris...coincidence.htm

There is no data regarding astrology beliefs about 33 degrees or 19.5 degrees throughout 1000's of years of astrology beliefs, inaccurate data, with Sun rising, setting or the later midnight!

My eye was drawn to "Sky over Washington, DC at Assassination Attempt on House Majority Whip Tom Delay-7/24/98, 3:33pm Looking West!"

Lets show scorn by a real astronomer!

http://www.enterpris...mages/DELAY.jpg

Firstly astronomy picture is way out, Silly Richard C. Hoagland didn't filter in SUMMER TIME, that was applied in 1998 (Daylight Saving Hours) that started on Sunday 5th April 1998 in Washington D.C. and finished and went back to standard time in same year on Sunday 25th October 1998..Ooops! Tell me i'm wrong, i'd love that!

Astronomy picture being accurate would be 4:33pm....opps no connection, ask on timid astronomers forum!

Even if he is an hour out of synch, i even would question time period as this being 3:33pm without getting astronomy programmes in synch with Summer Time, most reports say this didn't start before 3:40pm....oops!

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I'm only just started on this dodgy link!

Edited by monk 56

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I hope i don't offend you, Sam Spade, but you are NAIVE over who you quote in definition being Richard C. Hoagland, with accurate astronomy data!

i hope i dont offend you, my intent was just to show you were in error there when

you claim richard did not list time because he did, i was just wondering why you would lie.

plus i didnt claim richard astonomy to be accurate, and your theory i see is similar.

but seriously i seen your inaccurate astronomy data when i glance at one example you gave,

it was in great error, i strongly suggest your check all your work.

Edited by samspade

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I'm not sure what you mean by you being "A Master of the Mysteries of the Pyramids", it doesn't apply to accurate astronomy, whatever!

Other people apply facts, I'm not sure about the Fuzzy link you keep showing as evidence!

I'm enjoying, keep going!

Lets look at your link about George Washington, no doubt you have no idea about astronomy or astrology beliefs!

Here it is:-

http://www.enterprisemission.com/images/WASH-OATH-1789.gif

We will get to nuts and bolts, try it as you may! Be careful!

Edited by monk 56

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link you keep showing as evidence!

i just had to prove you were a liar and the evidence is there , he did list the time there, you claim he did not list the time.

you claim he did not list time, are you blind ?

i see his theory being similar to yours in that it encompass the stars you mention.

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