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Sirius and Alnilam, Secret Societies

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Hi Winter Summer,

I'm having problems with my computer, and i have to wait till i can afford to fix it, writing is difficult, thus i will leave links mostly please read every thing i have to say about Mayan Calendar and astronomy, others may be looking for undefined spiritual beliefs. Why choose Izapa as the birth place of the Mayan Calendar? Please read below, to find astronomical objects that they were looking at, we need location of origin:-

Read my comments on link below:-

http://2012forum.com...hp?f=59&t=28595

I'll continue soon.

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Please scroll down links below and read "Overview" and "Origin of Tzolk'in":-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_calendar

The Mayans looked to Epochs, and tried to look back to 13th August 3114BC, we do this by using Proleptic Gregorian Calendar, however i use Proleptic Julian Calendar and corresponding date is 6th September 3113 BC, and the Zenithal Sun is very important in IZAPA, Mexico.

Mayans may have made mistakes going back 5,000 years, as FRED ESPANAK wasn't around then, please read my comments below, i'm only happy going back 2,500 years to the Eclipse at the Battle of Halys:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=20398&start=30

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Hi Winter Summer,

It is strange how all over the world in ancient times that Sirius was associated with dogs, wolves and calendars, and is a likely indicator of a lot more and wider ancient travel than we now know about, scroll down link below to my comments and links regarding this:-

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=236808&st=45

Please scroll down link below to "Calendar epochs":-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/32nd_century_BC

So the astronomers choice of the origin of Mayan Calendar, IZAPA, has very rare alignment on 21st December 2012, Sun rises, Sirius sets, Sun sets, Alnilam rises, which is the same regarding Sirius and other Solar Calendars, please left click on icons at top of page of link below to see my work with Julian and Gregorian Calendars, and also link after showing Mayan Alignments:-

http://wintertriangle.wordpress.com/

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3509&mode=view

http://earthsky.org/tonight/star-sirius-torchbearer-of-the-new-year

http://idialstars.com/sir.htm

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Hi Winter Summer, Im having Computer difficulties and need new part, link below about 21st December 2012, scroll down to thread section #115, i have a lot more information to come:-

http://www.unexplain...c=232340&st=105

A couple years ago some Dutch researchers were checking the correlation between the Mayan and current calendars and found errors having to do with the phases of Venus. After they corrected the calculations to eliminate the errors, the Mayan calendar does not actually end until 2220. All the 2012 hoopla is based on the erroneous date and can pretty much discounted.

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Hi Quaetum,

Obviously Mayan Calendar is a topic over the coming month, so i will continue debate as you seem to want against 116 Years of modern olympics that is the theme of my thread at the moment. However in investigating the Mayan Calendar, lets make clear what i'm looking at, which isn't that the ancient central American calendar builders were looking for the end of the world on 21st December 2012, for them it was only an end of a epoch and the beginning of a new one, whatever that means it has nothing to do with the end of the world!!!!

Length of Gregorian Calendar is 365,2425 days, it will need a correction in about 3,000 years from now regarding leap days!

Length of year regarding Mayan Calendar is 365,2420 days, thus is more accurate, and the most accurate calendar ever produced in human development!

99% of scientists and astronomers will say this is true, so how do we know? In the end it is about counting days but being suspicious of G.M.T.

Yes they looked at Venus but you can't get to an accurate SUN calendar by looking at Venus, or the Moon....we have lost so much information because it went all up in smoke with Spanish invaders with Catholic Christian beliefs!

Lets give a link to your debate about Dutch Scientists, in truth it means very little:-

http://www.rnw.nl/en...-world-not-nigh

I'll continue soon!

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Lets give another link to someone who has a degree but i have a good ole belly laugh over:-

http://abcnews.go.co...11926347&page=1

Don't be fooled by above, Gerardo Aldano a professor at the University of California is totally wrong, not an astronomer or in any way connected to NASA, we can debate a difference of one or two days with Mayan Calendar, however lets see what Nasa says on the subject, do they say this date is wrong?

http://www.nasa.gov/...tures/2012.html

Too many non astronomers get into the act, i will show how we get to 21st December 2012, although i'm not interested in superstition, the date may be hijacked by terrorists, there is a small chance of this happening, however it would have nothing to do with Mayan prediction, i'll continue soon!

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The GOD in astronomy at the moment has to be FRED ESPANAK, link below, science:-

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Fred_Espenak

In counting days and Eclipse work regarding G.M.T. he is above all in research about Delta T, and that the Moon hasn't a constant orbit, which effects ancient interpretation of Mayans, link below:-

http://eclipse.gsfc....elp/deltaT.html

The Mayans didn't go back to 5,000 years we know the calendar was developed approx. 2,000/2,500 years ago, and epochs were moved backwards to 3114 BC or 3113 BC using Proleptic Julian Calendar on 6th September 3113BC, which is what i show regarding this.

Going backwards can have problems at least before "Battle of Halys and accurate Eclipse, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia....Battle_of_Halys

Please note NASA agrees scroll down to "The eclipse" on above, you may like link below:-

http://www.wired.com...e-stops-battle/

Can i show this Eclipse over 2500 years ago? You bet i can, but because of Delta T, i wouldn't want to go much further back into time, but this is when Mayan Calendar was developed, not 5,000 years ago, view astronomy graph on link below:-

http://2012forum.com...=3629&mode=view

The Mayans backdated calendar, i can show dubiously that it appears in 3114 BC it was aligned to Sirius, i have the same problem as Mayans, i can't stretch further than their time, as they might have made mistakes going backward, and sadly so could i. Uncertainty regarding Delta T is the edge of astronomers knowledge, i'm not certain about G.M.T. beyond the Battle of Halys, sorry!

http://eclipse.gsfc....tainty2004.html

I hope i have shown enough now in how to value Mayan Calendar, always open to questions but must get back to Olympics soon!

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So now we pick up the thread again with Eric Rudolph and 1996 Olympics, he wasn't really connected to Mormons however i do feel he understood how they aligned monuments and events, we can see this with the establishment of Mormons that happened in Fayette, New York on 6th April 1830, Egyptian, sunrise day marker chosen, as Sun rose, Sirius was on Nadir, obviously this involves Joseph Smith, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fayette,_New_York

Astronomy graph below:-

http://2012forum.com...=6645&mode=view

The link below has Egyptian connections:-

http://nowscape.com/suck/Summum.htm

Next we will look at Barcelona Olympics in 1992

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When we look at 1992 Olympics, don't look to many alignments in Spain, there is a reason for this, indeed many feel that Spain has been more orthodox than the Vatican concerning Catholic beliefs, we need to go no further than the Spanish Inquisition, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition

Obviously at a later date we will investigate the Spanish Armada after Olympics study, you know i will get there in time, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Armada

There are no alignments within Spain regarding Barcelona 1992 Olympics, but there is one regarding International Olympic Committee, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Olympic_Committee

Please scroll down link below to "Host City Selection", Barcelona was accepted as host nation for 1992 Olympics in Lausanne, Switzerland on 17th October 1986, please view link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Summer_Olympics

Ancient Greek day marker applied to 17th October 1986 in Lausanne, Switzerland, being sunset on 16th October 1986, graph on link below, at location, as Sun set, Sirius was on NADIR:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6653&mode=view

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I'm a Watcher, tomorrow we will look at Seoul Olympics, we watch patterns, we will leave that till tomorrow, please note Seoul Olympics started on 17th September 1988, and finished on 2nd October 1988, i'm going soon, so please debate, i'm not always able to show clarity now, i need rest, i'll be back tomorrow:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Summer_Olympics

I'll be back!

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So am i going to explain "The Watchers"?, no i'm not, thats up to you to know, but i will explain patterns in history, my secrets are based on a secret order of human watchers, laugh as you will, i'm going through history i have so much to explain yet, if you want to know about "Watchers", it will blow away on the wind, on that subject i will tell you NOTHING!

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Display on above is below, need debate with Watchers, probably an obviously factor is i will not open "Watchers", be kind, we are not a secret society, we watch events, but are not subject to application, we do not apply history over Sirius and centre star of Belt of Orion, we observe, we are not esoteric wage packets in history, WE OBSERVE:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6651&mode=view

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6652&mode=view

I may not want to expose "Watchers", but we only watch, we don't get connected with Egyptian stars and history making!!!!!!

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The Moscow Olympics were also aligned to the actual time of opening ceremony which was 4pm, please scroll down link below to see time mentioned:-

http://idabrofman.blogspot.co.uk/2011/11/olimpic-games-1980.html

Within the orb of 4 minutes equal to 1 degree at location Alnilam was aligned from 16:03:41pm to 16:11:40pm, graph below:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6658&mode=view

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I thought i would add quotes from the myths and poetry of ancient Greece concerning Sirius and Orion, tomorrow we will look at the Munich 1972 Olympics and the Black September terrorist group.

http://www.theoi.com/Titan/AsterSeirios.html

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Before we look at Munich Olympics and Black September, lets look at another attack with a Palestinian background, although i have sympathy in that region, i'm against violence, not all terrorist attacks are aligned to Sirius and Alnilam, but many directed in Europe and America and the West are, i have contempt for violence against innocent people related to the use of religious and ancient gods in electional astrology, at the very least governments are irresponsible for using the same alignments as terrorists regarding Olympic Games.

Lets look at Pam Am Flight 110, on 17th December 973 it was leaving Rome airport at 1:10pm, same as Flight number, when airport and plane was attacked, please scroll down link below to "Terminal and Pan Am Aircraft Invasion":-

http://en.wikipedia....hansa_hijacking

Midnight day marker was chosen, while Alnilam was culminating in the middle of the sky, graph below:-

http://2012foum.com/forum/download/file.php/id=6660&mode=view

Attack happened at 13:10pm so was time marked while Sirius was on the Nadir, graph below:-

http://2012forum.com...=6661&mode=view

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Munich 1972 Olympics was marked by ancient Greek day marker but on actual day of closing Ceremony which started after sunset, you can see that artificial light was used by video below:-

Closing Ceremony at Munich was on 10th September 1972, As Sun set Alnilam was aligned to the Nadir, graph below:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6662&mode=view

Information Below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972_Summer_Olympics

Ancient Greek Measure when applied after sunset applies also to auspicious 11th September and Thout, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thout

We know about the other date, don't we? Graph below:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6365&mode=view

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Please scroll down link below to Munich Massacre, this attack wasn't aligned to Sirius or Alnilam, perhaps they didn't feel the need as the 1972 Summer Olympics in Munich was all aligned by Closing Ceremony on 10th September 1972 to Alnilam and Thoth!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972_Summer_Olympics

Obviously Germany knew they had made mistakes regarding the security of Olympics, and set about creating a counter-terrorist unit, called GSG9, they were formed on 17th April 1973 and are hot stuff, H.Q. is in Sankt Augustin near Bonn, all information on link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSG_9

Date Established 17th April 1973, location Sankt Augustin, Germany, as the Sun rose at location and date, Sirius was on the Nadir, astronomy graph on link below:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6663&mode=view

Before showing 1968 Summer Olympics, i will show more information about GSG9 on the next thread section.

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One of the most famous missions of GSG9 counter terrorist unit was Operation Fire Magic, which is strange as they were established from the ashes of terrorist action regarding the 1972 Summer Olympics, which is themed by the myth of Prometheus and symbolism of fire.

Please scroll down link below to "The Hijacking", noting that aircraft took off from Palma de Mallorca on 13th October 1977, terrorists day marked the aircraft by ancient Greek day marker at location, being sunset on 12th ctober 1977, while Sirius was aligned to Nadir, graph link also below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lufthansa_Flight_181

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6664&mode=view

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The 1968 Summer Olympics in Mexico is complicated as it isn't just themed on Olympics but also Christopher Columbus, and this must be noted, however we will start the usaul way, please scroll down link below to "Host City Selection" where Mexico won it's bid to host 1968 Olympics on 18th October 1963, in Baden-Baden, Germany, by scrolling down you will find "Olympic Torch Relay", this mentions Christopher Columbus route of the 1968 Torch Relay and will become important on my next thread section tomorrow:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bids_for_the_1968_Summer_Olympics

Secret Societies align either to sunrise, sunset or midnight, obviously some readers could be confused by ancient Greek day marker, previous sunset to day of event, hopefully link below will help clear this up about a calendar that did use sunset, being the Florentine Calendar, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florentine_calendar

So we know that Mexico won it's bid to host the 1968 Summer Olympics in Baden-Baden, Germany on 18th October 1963, at location, ancient Greek day marker was chosen, being sunset of previous day to mark the event, graph on link below showing as Sun set, Sirius was aligned to the NADIR:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6665&mode=view

Tomorrow we will explore Columbus, please note that Opening Ceremony of 1968 Olympics happened on 12th October, an auspicious date for Columbus in 1492.

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Obviously most here knows the significance of 12th October 1492 when Columbus sighted the New World which was the Island of San Salvador, please scroll down link below to date:-

http://library.think....htm?tq1-iframe

Thus we see the symbolism of having the opening ceremony of the 1968 Mexico summer olympics on 12th October 1968, however the Olympic torch reached mainland Mexico via Veracruz, not connected to Columbus but was first Spanish settlement in the New World established by Hernan Cortez, links below:-

http://en.wikipedia....acruz,_Veracruz

http://library.thinkquest.org/J002678F/cortez.htm?tql-iframe

Obviously not the best thing for the indigenous people!

Please scroll down link below to "ROUTE", where it will explain that the Olympic torch entered mainland Mexico via Veracruz on 6th October 1968:-

http://en.wikipedia....ics_torch_relay

Ancient Greek Day Marker was applied to this event, being sunset of previous day to 6th October 1968 at location, while Sirius was aligned to the NADIR, graph on link below:-

http://2012forum.com...=6811&mode=view

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Columbus set sail from the port of Palos de la Frontera, Spain, in search of the New World, link below:-

http://www.red2000.com/spain/costa-de-la-luz/palos.html

So again, please scroll down link below to "ROUTE", you will find that the Olympic Torch Flame left the port of Palos de la Frontera to cross the Atlantic Ocean on 12th September 1968, ancient Greek day marker was used being sunset of previous day, when Alnilam, Belt of Orion was aligned to the NADIR, link also below showing graph:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Summer_Olympics_torch_relay

Graph below:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6813&mode=view

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