psyche101 Posted November 16, 2012 #976 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Can't you tell psyche? NASA is trying to trick us into thinking its just an emulsion of some kind by dripping little green dots along the edge... But even so, it's quite clear what this is... The entire bloody fleet is here! I'm not aware of ANY 'official' NASA explanation of the greenies on some of the photos. can anybody claiming there IS one please cite some NASA official making the assertion the images are photo flaws? Here's the view of the guy who TOOK the photos, Walt Cunningham, an old friend of mine: > From: Walter Cunningham > To: 'James E Oberg' > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 4:50 PM > Subject: RE: UFO Green Fireballs from Apollo-7 photography > > Jim, as you know, I took a majority of the pictures on Apollo 7. My original copy of the 440 pictures that we took have been sitting on top of my file cabinet since November 1968. While I laughed at the suggestion of “green fireballs,” I nevertheless took the time to look at the originals, which of course, are devoid of anything like the so-called fireballs. The marks on the posted copies have artifacts, obviously from the processing. No, we weren’t being followed by little green men. > > Walt Cunningham > > > That clears that up. Thank you Jim, nothing like the horses mouth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMacGuffin Posted November 16, 2012 #977 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Or maybe it was just "Santa Claus" after all. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&ved=0CE0QFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abovetopsecret.com%2Fforum%2Fthread335212%2Fpg1&ei=xNKlUJbmBYGc9QTMx4H4Cg&usg=AFQjCNHthdTZjrkWnaQ_cRWNHHXgR2Ap0w&sig2=Uxf7Ibz1FRjJB3DT4gTCdw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMacGuffin Posted November 16, 2012 #978 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Not all of the Apollo 7 pictures seem to have those green "artifacts", however, but I can't claim to have looked at every one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMacGuffin Posted November 16, 2012 #979 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I suppose one would have to look through every roll of film just to see how many had the little green guys. http://www.google.com/imgres?num=10&hl=en&tbo=d&biw=1280&bih=685&tbm=isch&tbnid=esb7LGVlW-y-YM:&imgrefurl=http://www.astronautix.com/flights/apollo7.htm&docid=6U_GOXRrlGTOeM&imgurl=http://www.astronautix.com/graphics/0/10074880.jpg&w=476&h=473&ei=ndmlUNLaL5Dm9gS39YDoCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=557&vpy=136&dur=105&hovh=224&hovw=225&tx=103&ty=169&sig=114704889851551226570&page=1&tbnh=137&tbnw=151&start=0&ndsp=28&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0,i:83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted November 16, 2012 #980 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Or maybe it was just "Santa Claus" after all. http://www.google.co...1FRjJB3DT4gTCdw NORAD has a good handle on Santa Before I saw the email, I figured the green parts must be artefacts because they appear in the borders of the photo as well, and quite prolifically, and match the others. It is an amazing co-incidence I admit, but it does appear to be just that. We also see Green fireballs in nature, this is a nice picture of comet Hartley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted November 16, 2012 #981 Share Posted November 16, 2012 This is the original AS07-6-1700 that was taken over Iran. Iran? Well, there's your answer, isn't it. It's obviously one of those Saucers they're developing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted November 16, 2012 #982 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Iran? Well, there's your answer, isn't it. It's obviously one of those Saucers they're developing. I think you've got your timelines in a muddle, 747...... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted November 16, 2012 #983 Share Posted November 16, 2012 (edited) On the topic of DEBUNKED green UFOs in the atmosphere,... II remember back in the days, when that fanatic believer Ra was posting the red UFO in the atmosphere report, tracked by radar engaged and shot down, as proof of ET visitation. English was not his first language. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1546530/posts As silly as it gets around here these days, I miss that guy. Edited November 16, 2012 by Hazzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted November 16, 2012 #984 Share Posted November 16, 2012 On the topic of DEBUNKED green UFOs in the atmosphere,... hearsay about an unverifiable email does not constitute a debunking.... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimOberg Posted November 16, 2012 #985 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Question remains unresponded to. Is it fair to presume the reason is, no such evidence for an 'official' explanation exists, it was just a rhetorical device? I'm not aware of ANY 'official' NASA explanation of the greenies on some of the photos. can anybody claiming there IS one please cite some NASA official making the assertion the images are photo flaws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzard Posted November 16, 2012 #986 Share Posted November 16, 2012 hearsay about an unverifiable email does not constitute a debunking.... If that is your position, then nothing posted here at UM constitutes proof of ET either,... Not the eye-witness testimonys or the youtube clips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimOberg Posted November 16, 2012 #987 Share Posted November 16, 2012 hearsay about an unverifiable email does not constitute a debunking... I'm not following you. Are you saying that direct eyewitness testimony is 'hearsay' and you won't believe it? Feel free to write to Cunningham yourself to ask him to confirm the email. With so many legions of eager-believers on my case fo so many years, trying to dig out any and all inconsistencies and lapses, do you think I'd take the chance at getting exposed at falsifying somebody else's quotations? Especially ones so easy to check? And when did you ever doubt any anonymously provided alleged pro-UFO 'expert quote'? Even ONCE? No, those you swallowed like mother's milk. Chatelain, Afanasyev, MxcClelland -- all seem to have easily passed your test for credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted November 16, 2012 #988 Share Posted November 16, 2012 If that is your position, then nothing posted here at UM constitutes proof of ET either,... Not the eye-witness testimonys or the youtube clips. and the reverse of that 'logic'...is that if you believe one email that someone told you about constitutes a debunking YOU should believe all the evidence of eye-witness testimony and YouTube clips.... (or something like that... ) I'm not following you. I'm not following you either.... Are you saying that direct eyewitness testimony is 'hearsay' and you won't believe it? the hearsay bit refered to you... And when did you ever doubt any anonymously provided alleged pro-UFO 'expertquote'? Even ONCE? No, those you swallowed like mother's milk. Chatelain, Afanasyev, MxcClelland -- all seem to have easily passed your test for credibility. Have they?.......that's news to me...lol I don't know what the big deal is about the 'green fireballs'....but judging from the way this discussion has gone, they are a big deal in some way, for some reason.....that is all I can say about it really. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmk1245 Posted November 16, 2012 #989 Share Posted November 16, 2012 hearsay about an unverifiable email does not constitute a debunking.... Priceless!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted November 16, 2012 #990 Share Posted November 16, 2012 . except to say.... that on the image that psyche posted earlier... http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/sseop/images/ISD/highres/AS07/AS07-5-1613.JPG it's the trail that is green and the other bit looks white... (you can use the magnifier on the pic) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMacGuffin Posted November 16, 2012 #991 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Question remains unresponded to. Is it fair to presume the reason is, no such evidence for an 'official' explanation exists, it was just a rhetorical device? That was always your job, wasn't it? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMacGuffin Posted November 16, 2012 #992 Share Posted November 16, 2012 On the topic of DEBUNKED green UFOs in the atmosphere,... II remember back in the days, when that fanatic believer Ra was posting the red UFO in the atmosphere report, tracked by radar engaged and shot down, as proof of ET visitation. They were first reported in the late-1940s, and Dr. Lincoln LaPaz, the meteorite expert, always insisted that they were NOT meteorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimOberg Posted November 16, 2012 #993 Share Posted November 16, 2012 They were first reported in the late-1940s, and Dr. Lincoln LaPaz, the meteorite expert, always insisted that they were NOT meteorites. We're talking about green streaks on some Apollo-7 images. Please stay on target. What evidence is there that these images are anything but photo processing flaws? Was the actual Apollo-7 eyewitness's statement clarifying, or do you prefer to continue acting as if it doesn't exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMacGuffin Posted November 16, 2012 #994 Share Posted November 16, 2012 (edited) We're talking about green streaks on some Apollo-7 images. Please stay on target. What evidence is there that these images are anything but photo processing flaws? Was the actual Apollo-7 eyewitness's statement clarifying, or do you prefer to continue acting as if it doesn't exist? I merely raised the question of whether the green "artifacts" appeared in every picture from that mission of just a few of them. I never found any actual witness statement about the green UFOs or even that they were noticed at all until those pictures were developed. Edited November 16, 2012 by TheMacGuffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMacGuffin Posted November 16, 2012 #995 Share Posted November 16, 2012 For many years, though, there were other UFO pictures from Apollo 7, like the famous "boomerangs":, but the green fireballs were only discussed in recent times--so far as I can tell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMacGuffin Posted November 16, 2012 #996 Share Posted November 16, 2012 And then there were the Apollo 7 UFOs on the moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimOberg Posted November 16, 2012 #997 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I merely raised the question of whether the green "artifacts" appeared in every picture from that mission of just a few of them. I never found any actual witness statement about the green UFOs or even that they were noticed at all until those pictures were developed. Where did you read that the 'green UFOs' were noticed 'when the pictures were developed'? I think that the most you can say is that they were noticed when later generation prints were posted on some websites. NOT when 'they were developed'. There's a big difference, and carelessly sloppy descriptions can get in the way of properly understanding the question. In fact, according to the man who personally TOOK the photographs, the images are NOT in the first-generation prints that he personally possesses in his home. Did you notice that, or are you making believe it's only 'hearsay', like Bee seems to be doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted November 16, 2012 #998 Share Posted November 16, 2012 @Jim Oberg perhaps...if you are friends with Walt Cunningham...you could ask him to send a scan of his copy of AS07-05-1613 just a thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimOberg Posted November 16, 2012 #999 Share Posted November 16, 2012 And then there were the Apollo 7 UFOs on the moon. What alternate reality do you inhabit where Apollo-7 was ever on the Moon? Jeez, McG, you're a hands-down winner of the poster child prize for showing how the less you know about real space flight, and the more wrong ideas you believe about spaceflight, the more fanatic you are about misinterpreting stuff as UFOs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimOberg Posted November 16, 2012 #1000 Share Posted November 16, 2012 perhaps...if you are friends with Walt Cunningham...you could ask him to send a scan of his copy of AS07-05-1613 just a thought What possible use would that be? You probably have your get-out-of-reality cards already out on your desk to present another excuse not to believe it, or to mcguffinly ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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