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1917 tale recounts ancient 'Skyman' legend

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Colonel G.E. Laidlaw recorded an intriguing tale told by the First Nations people of central Ontario.

500 years ago there was a large Ojibwa village about 550 native people living somewhere in our region. One day, a pair of them stumbled upon a stranger sitting on the grass in a field. This figure, a male, was notably “clean and shining bright. ”

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If that's not proof enough, I don't know what is.

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These people also believe in Turtle Island.. and here's an exert of their history/beliefs:

According to the oral history, seven great miigis (radiant/iridescent) beings appeared to the peoples in the Waabanakiing (Land of the Dawn, i.e., Eastern Land) to teach them the mide way of life. One of the seven great miigis beings was too spiritually powerful and killed the peoples in the Waabanakiing when they were in its presence.

So I guess this is the first known case of alien genocide too? People believe the most ridiculous of things.

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This as to be the best encounter story I have heard. What amazed me was that he spoke the lanuage is the natives. This is a true facts to me .

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That was a great story. I think they have been coming here for thousands of years. Wish they would find something that would give definite proof of their visits.

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I love these kinds of stories :)

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Thats an interesting one.

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His name was Arthur Dent. He used a Babel fish and the ship that picked him up was the Heart of Gold. Mystery solved

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quote " But these weren’t the first accounts of alien spacecraft on record. Legends of god-like beings coming from the heavens exist in many cultures. Throughout North America, there are numerous caves that date back thousands of years. These paintings figures and objects much like the modern imagery of aliens and flying saucers. "

I find this information very true, there is lost of drawings of flying things in age when flying was impossible, yet they drew all that without even knowning what it was...

But one thing is for sure " ANY ALIEN VISITOR " would have a mask of some kind, breathing athmospheric mask, i highly doubt they could breathe our bacterias i mean our air...

Last night i watched " battleship " movie again, and even if it is Sci-fi it makes a damn good case about how our contact might look like... We are probing planets much like our earth, we are sending transmission's in to space which is filled with life, primite or evolved, what if someone will pick up those signals... what then?

Like in the movie the scientist who was in charged of that transmission station, said this can't be nothing good if they succeed. But the point was that when those alien figures arrived they had mask on because they couldn't stand the proximity of our sun...

So any " alien visitor " without any sort of mask is nothing but BS to me...Maybe similar planet but not the same composition of athmosphere..

I bet if we went to one of those earthlike planets we would probably breath just fine... but people would get sick pretty fast from unknown bacterias and virus infections..

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Fun story, and if true, is pretty good proof of such things.

Everything in the story points at something outside the time and knowledge of the people. A man asking for a place to be cleaned, specifically. If you've just been offered help the last thing you'd want to do is annoy your rescuers with demands. The "Skyman" would not of done it without reason. The rest of the stuff is pretty 'normal' for First Contact, but what I find most interesting about this is the fact he was described as "a man". So, in effect, he looked like a human... Apart from the glowing.

He also knew somebody would arrive in two days. Perhaps he sent out a mayday before he crashed or had a prearranged meet up if he went silent for some time. The fact this was also recorded in 1917, way before the "UFO" was a well known topic...

Regardless, it's an interesting story, shame we'll probably never find out the truth.

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"Legends of god-like beings coming from the heavens exist in many cultures."

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In 1790 at Alencon, France, farmers were out working in their fields when a fiery orb streaked through the sky. At first they thought it was a hot air balloon that had caught fire but as it got closer to the earth they could see it was a large metal sphere that slowed somewhat but continued to travel with a rocking motion as it crashed upon a hilltop, violently uprooting soil and plants which then showered back down upon the hillside.

The heat of the vessel caused fire to erupt in the dry grass where it sat. Small trees and nearby vegetation burst into flames. Pails of water were rushed up the hill by the dozens of peasants now in attendance, soon extinguished the flames. Adventuresome residents crowded around the craft, noting it remained warm to the touch into the evening.

What happened next was documented by The Committee of Public Safety in Paris, 100 miles to the northeast. They sent Inspector Liabeuf, an agent of their secret police was sent out to investigate. Many eyewitnesses were interviewed including two mayors from nearby towns, a physician and other local authorities who had turned up to see what had fallen from the sky. Liabeuf’s report was confirmed by all. It is one of the best documentations of a probable visitation of a being from another place or another time.

It stated that: “All of a sudden a kind of door opened and there is the interesting thing, a person like us came out of it, but this person was dressed in a strange way, in clothes adhering completely to the body...” Apparently a hatch had slide open in the lower part of the sphere and the emerging occupant uncertainly surveyed the crowd. He began speaking in an unknown language, gesturing for everyone to move away from him and his craft. As a few people moved away, he then broke free and ran into the woods.

A sense of danger was communicated and everyone else quickly moved back from the vessel which immediately exploded with a muffled silence. A miniature mushroom-cloud formed in it place as debris from the globe hissed into the grass and turned to powder. Searches were organized to search for the weirdly dressed man. He was never found, apparently dissolving as thoroughly as his ship.

Reporting to his superiors, Inspector Liabeuf suggested that the man in the globe may have been “a being from another world” but the commanders in Paris ridiculed the “ludicrous idea”.

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Edited by Juanita Rose Violini
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Nice story but that's all it is....

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Given the monumental probabilities and conditions that have allowed us to evolve to our current form on Earth, I find the idea that an alien being completely humanoid in appearance to be a deal breaker in most of these encounter stories. One might argue that an advanced civilization could surgically alter itself to adapt and blend, but if that were the case, then would they not also want to alter something as simple as their clothing to further blend. Nice story though, that certainly has a lot of parallels in other cultures, such as Greek and Roman mythology.

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Nice story but that's all it is....

Notice the date of Juanita Rose Violini's story: March 30, 2012.....

http://incrediblealm...01_archive.html

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Edited by Abramelin

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So I guess this is the first known case of alien genocide too? People believe the most ridiculous of things.

You’re talking about the Seven Fires Prophecy and it has nothing to do with alien genocide. True, one of these prophetic beings was too powerful to be in the presence of humans without harming them, so he went off to live in the ocean and the remaining ‘prophets’ aided the Ojibwa in their migration west.

No genocide – what a freaking stretch.

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You’re talking about the Seven Fires Prophecy and it has nothing to do with alien genocide. True, one of these prophetic beings was too powerful to be in the presence of humans without harming them, so he went off to live in the ocean and the remaining ‘prophets’ aided the Ojibwa in their migration west.

No genocide – what a freaking stretch.

Exactly. :unsure2:

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I’m researching the original people from my area (Northeastern Massachusetts) and came across a similar story. (These people were likely absorbed into the Ojibwa Nation after King Phillips War.)

They talked of what they described as a ‘flying canoe’ which came down near a local river and white men came out to gather water. They watched them gather the water and then the ‘canoe’ flew back into the air spitting fire and thunder.

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Here is an old UFO sighting from Boston in 1644, which of course was explained in supernatural terms. I would be surprised if they had any other explanation at the time.

"In January 1644, America's first USO, or Unidentified Submerged Object, was sighted. A USO is an aquatic UFO. GovernorJohn Winthrop made two entries in his journal in regards to this unholy affair.

Captain John Chaddock's ship blew up at Battery Street in the North End. Five men lost their lives. Soon after, unexplained lights appeared in the sky. The citizens of Boston eventually ascertained that one of Chaddock's men had conjured up the spirits of the dead sailors, which was the origin of the mysterious lights. Chaddock was essentially a pirate, and had previously attempted to colonize Trinidad with a party of Bostonians.

"Exactly 16 days after the blowing up of Capt. Chaddock's ill-fated ship and crew, and just at 'the witching hour of midnight,' as Shakespeare calls it, 'when churchyards yawn and hell itself breathes forth contagion in the air,' three men in a boat, coming toward Boston—a strange hour for reputable puritans to be so far from home—saw two bright lights rise out of the water, at the place where the vessel had been blown up, just off the [old] North Ferry slip.

Location of First USO Sighting

They made the still more inexplicable [observation] that the two lights assumed the form of a man, and sailed leisurely off over the water to the south, keeping but a short distance from the shore, till it reached a point now occupied byRowe's Wharf, at the foot of Franklin St., where it vanished as suddenly as it had appeared just 15 minutes before. The story was told and retold about the town, for the next few days, till the whole population had reached a mental condition that made them capable of seeing the ghosts of Chaddock's buccaneers, if given any kind of chance.

A week after the event just described, the old records say, 'the twin lights were seen again by many,' but this time they arose off Castle Island, and after traveling through the air just 12 minutes, vanished at the spot where the remains of the ship were resting. The restless spirits of the deep continued to make things satisfactorily terrifying for those who were 'out late 'o night' along the waterfront.

On one occasion, the story was, that at 8 o'clock, a light resembling the moon rose from the water at the wreck, sailed through the air till it was over the highest point of 'Nottle's Island,' now East Boston—but then uninhabited, and an ideal place for ghostly gambols—and there it was met by its twin light, the two suddenly merging into one, then parting, and thus continuing uniting and separating, as if in playful mood, many times, all the while 'shooting out sometimes flames and sometimes sparkles.' Finally, uniting permanently, the big illuminated disc floated off behind the hill on 'Nottle's Island,' disappearing from sight of the wondering eyes of Bostonians.

Later returns from different quarters showed that while the North enders were watching this pyrotechnic display the people along the shore from [old] North Ferry to Fort Hill were being treated to a different sort of hair-raising demonstration, a voice having been heard on the water, toward South Boston—then also uninhabited—crying out in a most dreadful manner, 'Boy! Boy! Come Away! Come Away!' the voice frequently shifting its location, in the whimsical manner, from point to point, separated by a great distance. It was declared that the voice was heard above 20 times 'by divers[e] Godly persons.'

Three weeks after the perturbed spirits first began their peregrinations they went finally to rest, as far as our local annals testify, and on their last appearance the agonizing voice had been transferred to the scene of the wreck in the North end.

The public discussion stimulated by the phenomena brought out the fact that the man who snapped the pistol that ignited the powder that blew up the ship that released the ghost had professed to be a necromancer [a communicator with the spirit world], and was known to have done many wonderful things during his last voyage, and was also suspected of having murdered his master some time before in Virginia, though unfortunately these important facts had not been imparted to the local authorities until the necromancer had done his worst.

It was considered a matter of especial significance that all the bodies of the crew, save only his, had been recovered before the spiritualistic manifestations began, and, as it was considered one of the cardinal principles of ghostly etiquette not to walk—or even fly—by night, after one's 'earthly tabernacle' had been given a reputable internment, it was reasonably clear that the cause of the psychic disturbance must have been the failure to recover the body of the missing sailor."

http://www.celebrateboston.com/ufo/first-uso-sighting.htm

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And here was a "ship in the air" reported at New Haven, Connecticut in 1647, again explained as a Flying Dutchman or ghost ship.

"Reverend Cotton Mather, in his Magnalia Christi Americana, recorded what can be described today as a major UFO sighting. Mather received a letter from a Pastor in New Haven, Connecticut, that described the "apparition of a ship in the air." A large vessel was lost at sea in 1646, and one year later witnesses observed this ship appear in the sky above New Haven. Some readers may consider this a Flying Dutchman or ghost story. The following letter summarizes this most grievous incident:

"In the year 1647, besides much other lading, a far more rich treasure of passengers, (five or six of which were persons of chief note and worth in New-Haven) put themselves on board a new ship, built at Rhode-Island, of about 150 tons; but so walty [liable to roll over], that the master, (Lamberton) often said she would prove their grave. In the month of January, cutting their way through much ice, on which they were accompanied with the Reverend Mr. Davenport, besides many other friends, with many fears, as well as prayers and tears, they set sail. Mr Davenport in prayer with an observable emphasis used these words, Lord, if it be thy pleasure to bury these our friends in the bottom of the sea, they are thine; save them!

The spring following, no tidings of these friends arrived with the ships from England: New-Haven's heart began to fail her: this put the godly people on much prayer, both publick and private, that the Lord would (if it was his pleasure) let them hear what he had done with their dear friends, and prepare them with a suitable submission to his Holy Will.

In June next ensuing, a great thunder-storm arose out of the north-west; after which (the hemisphere being serene) about an hour before sun-set a Ship of like dimensions with the aforesaid, with her canvass and colours abroad (though the wind northernly) appeared in the air coming up from our harbour's mouth, which lyes southward from the town, seemingly with her sails filled under a fresh gale, holding her course north, and continuing under observation, sailing against the wind for the space of half an hour.

Many were drawn to behold this great work of God; yea, the very children cryed out, There's a brave ship! At length, crouding up as far as there is usually water sufficient for such a vessel, and so near some of the spectators, as that they imagined a man might hurl a stone on board her, her main-top seemed to be blown off, but left hanging in the shrouds; then her missen-top; then all her masting seemed blown away by the board: quickly after the hulk brought unto a careen, she overset, and so vanished into a smoaky cloud, which in sometime dissipated, leaving, as everywhere else, a clear air.

The admiring spectators could distinguish the several colours of each part, the principal rigging, and such proportions, as caused not only the generality of persons. to say, This was the mould of their ship, and thus was her tragick end: but Mr. Davenport also in publick declared to this effect, That God had condescended, for the quieting of their afflicted spirits, this extraordinary account of his sovereign disposal of those for whom so many fervent prayers made continually. Thus I am, Sir, Your humble servant, James Pierpont."

http://www.celebrateboston.com/ufo/new-haven-ufo-1647.htm

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So the question remains, did they actually see UFOs, and just compare them to objects with which they would have been more familiar, interpreted in the common religious and supernatural terms of their era?

Or are we dealing with some very strange phenomenon that can manifest itself in many different ways, as Jacques Vallee thought?

As far as these old sightings are concerned, we will probably never know any more than we do now. After all, this was a time before the Scientific Revolution, before mass communications and modern technology, when the majority of people could not even read or write. History back then was recorded by the educated few, and of course there was nothing like modern journalism at the time, with its 24/7 news cycle.

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Unlike some others, I don't think a humanoid-shaped ET is out of the question. There is something to be said for a biped with 2 arms. I'm not saying other life forms of intelligence can't exist, but it seems more likely to me that a traveler would scan the planet, find a shape similar to his that appears to be the dominant specieis and would contact them to see how advanced they really are. Of course the validity of these old stories have to be questioned as I'm sure some embellishment occurs over time. On the other hand, there are the cave drawing and such showing ET-like objects, so go figure.

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"Legends of god-like beings coming from the heavens exist in many cultures."

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What is up with this dudes hair??? It gets wackier, and wackier every season!

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What is up with this dudes hair??? It gets wackier, and wackier every season!

Aliens, probably.
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