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cosmic joker

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I have a novel opinion about the bigfoot - UFO thing. In my "opinion" I believe these things are manifested by (to quote John Keel) "a cosmic joker". That is to say they aren't really real and this joker just likes to F... with us, I mean this is the 21st century with all the gadgets we have and thousands of people looking for these things all we get is fuzzy pics? Come on. My suggestion is to totally ignore these things, stop looking, stop reporting anything and one of two things will happen. Either this joker will get tired of screwing with us or it will get so p***ed off it will mess up and reveal itself. My point is what happens when someone messes with you? You do one of 3 things, you ignore them, get back at them or you beat the s....t out of them. Since we can't get back or beat the s...t out of it just ignore it. I think it would be an interesting experiment but that would mean getting everybody on the planet to do this which ain't gonna happen. Just a thought.

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This is more irrational than bigfoot eating their dead. I guess we could ignore everything we can't resolve.

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Not everything ignored goes away or reveals itself. I think it would be a mistake to stop looking for things that aren't suppose to exist. That's how new species are found.

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This cosmic joker? Does he go by Coyote? Maybe look a bit like this?

coyote-1.jpg

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This is an interesting theory I've never heard of before. I'm just curious, what made you believe in this theory? Personal experience? Read about it? Friend told you?

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If you mean "cosmic joker" to be the collectivity of humanity then I agree with you.

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A cosmic joker? Just what we need, another invisible being to mess with our heads!

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John Keel, famous for his Mothman Prophecies fiction-sold-as-fact book, has proposed this theory several times. In this book the unknown forces which are creating Mothman, flying saucers, Men in Black, strange animals, crank calls, and other unexplained phenomena seem to be aware of him investigating them. When Keel loses interest in one of them, the force creates a new one, often sillier than the last as if they were taunting him. I think his book "Disneyland of the Gods" ended with something like "If there is a God, must He be sane?" or something similarly ominous.

I can't take anything the man said seriously because his books are full of made up stories stated as fact and scientific falsehoods that anyone can look up and disprove.

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Perhaps you are taking the "Cosmic Joker" concept too literally. Trickster figures, like Coyote shown above, have always had important roles to play within various cultures but today those roles are now largely forgotten, downplayed, misrepresented, or poorly understood. Perhaps, then, the "Cosmic Joker" is not some external entity messing with us but an archetype which manifests through us as individuals, groups, and even entire societies.

As with many paranormal subjects there is a very significant trickster element (eg hoaxes and fakery) which, instead of detracting from the phenomena, may actually play an important role in inducing the desired paranormal experience. Shamanism.

http://www.amazon.co...n/dp/1401000827

http://www.tricksterbook.com/

http://paranormaltri...logspot.com.au/

http://voices.yahoo....for-648914.html

http://www.forteanti...e_p_hansen.html

Hansen believes that paranormal events, such as sightings of strange beasts, UFOs and ghosts, are sighted when the society is in disorder, and least when society is ordered, but also during times of transition (for example, from youth to adulthood). He argues that there is a connection between all the different aspects of "the unknown", as well as with parapsychology.

http://en.wikipedia....eorge_P._Hansen

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Interesting theory, I wonder what else this Cosmic Joker would be capable of

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marvin19.jpg

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Gossamer.gif

That is my next tat!

Forgot all about him, ty !

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Ya just gotta love Gossamar. Monsters is such interesting people!

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This is an interesting theory I've never heard of before. I'm just curious, what made you believe in this theory? Personal experience? Read about it? Friend told you?

I just thought about it logically, I mean let's treat this in the most basic form. Why would anyone..anything want to do this? If there are other inhabitable planets with life as evolved as ours going on there also? If so then our perception of god must be an insane being or beings by our perception. Maybe it's a test to see our reaction like lab rats or maybe this being or beings just like to f... with other civiations (sic) just because they can.

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If you mean "cosmic joker" to be the collectivity of humanity then I agree with you.

Possibly, if you believe like I do that the world is bored and wants something.... anything to be excited about our collective consciousnesses is creating this.

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This is more irrational than bigfoot eating their dead. I guess we could ignore everything we can't resolve.

Did I say everything?

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Did I say everything?

Why not apply your irrational logic to everything?

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I just thought about it logically, I mean let's treat this in the most basic form. Why would anyone..anything want to do this? If there are other inhabitable planets with life as evolved as ours going on there also? If so then our perception of god must be an insane being or beings by our perception. Maybe it's a test to see our reaction like lab rats or maybe this being or beings just like to f... with other civiations (sic) just because they can.

You are of course entitled to believe whatever you want about the nature of bigfoot. However - calling your guesswork "logic" is fallacious. What you have here is speculation based on ponderings about something that has never been proven to exist.

Read up on logic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic

As far as your guess about bigfoot goes - I think its a fun idea and is equally as valid as anything else that people guess about bigfoot. Since there is no reality-based evidence to truly base any theory on.....its open season on bigfoot explanations in my opinion. Any port in a storm.

Sakari - who's that nutter-lady who thinks she communicates with bigfoots telepathically and has been accepted into their community? I always forget her name. I think thats my personal favorite when it comes to bigfoot guesswork, simply because its so f#ckin' out there.

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Why not apply your irrational logic to everything?

I believe I have a right to voice my opinion just like you. But unlike you I would not show my lack of intelligence by attacking it.

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You are of course entitled to believe whatever you want about the nature of bigfoot. However - calling your guesswork "logic" is fallacious. What you have here is speculation based on ponderings about something that has never been proven to exist.

Read up on logic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic

As far as your guess about bigfoot goes - I think its a fun idea and is equally as valid as anything else that people guess about bigfoot. Since there is no reality-based evidence to truly base any theory on.....its open season on bigfoot explanations in my opinion. Any port in a storm.

Sakari - who's that nutter-lady who thinks she communicates with bigfoots telepathically and has been accepted into their community? I always forget her name. I think thats my personal favorite when it comes to bigfoot guesswork, simply because its so f#ckin' out there.

Read up on speculation: http://www.wordnik.com/words/speculation

n. The pursuit of truth by means of thinking, especially mathematical reasoning and logical analysis; meditation; deep and thorough consideration of a theoretical question. This use of the word, though closely similar to the application of speculatio in the Latin of Boëthius to translate θεωρία, is chiefly due to 1 Cor. xiii. 12, “now we see through a glass, darkly,” where ‘glass’ is in the Vulgate speculum. But some writers, as Milton and Cowper, associate the meaning with specula, ‘a watch-tower.’

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Read up on speculation: http://www.wordnik.c...rds/speculation

n. The pursuit of truth by means of thinking, especially mathematical reasoning and logical analysis; meditation; deep and thorough consideration of a theoretical question. This use of the word, though closely similar to the application of speculatio in the Latin of Boëthius to translate θεωρία, is chiefly due to 1 Cor. xiii. 12, “now we see through a glass, darkly,” where ‘glass’ is in the Vulgate speculum. But some writers, as Milton and Cowper, associate the meaning with specula, ‘a watch-tower.’

I agree on your definition. However what you were doing was not applying logical analysis. But we digress. Not looking to start arguments here. Seriously. Have fun with your guess about bigfoot. Its as good as anything else out there. :tu:

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