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What Happened to SS Gen. Hans Kammler?

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What happened to SS General Hans Kammler?

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From 1944 onward, he was in change of advanced weapons development in Nazi Germany, including the Me-262 jets, the V-2 rockets and perhaps even more exotic projects.

Did he commit suicide at the end of the war, escape to Argentina or perhaps become part of Project Paperclip in the U.S.? There are no definite answers to any of this, although we certainly know that many of the scientists under his command ended up in the U.S.

http://boyerwrites.wordpress.com/2010/02/07/what-happened-to-ss-general-hans-kammler/

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A long-time Nazi, Kammler rose rapidly through the bureaucratic ranks in Nazi Germany, finally ending up the the Economic and Administrative Office (WVHA) of the SS, where he was in change of designing and constructing concentration camps. There are a variety of reports about his alleged death or suicide in 1945, but nothing definite.

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"Kammler was born in Stettin, Germany. In 1919, after volunteering for army service, he served in the Rossbach Freikorps . From 1919 to 1923 he studied civil engineering in Munich and Danzig. He joined the NSDAP in 1932 and held a variety of administrative positions when the Nazi government came to power, initially in the Reichsluftfahrtministerium (RLM - Aviation Ministry). In 1940 he joined the SS, where from 1942 he worked at designing facilities for the extermination camps, including gas chambers and crematoria. Kammler eventually became Oswald Pohl's Deputy in the WVHA (Reich Administrative and Economic Main Office), which oversaw Amtsgruppe D (Amt D), the Administration of the concentration camp system, and was also Chief of Amt C, which designed and constructed all of the concentration and extermination camps. Following the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising in 1943, Heinrich Himmler assigned him to overseeing the demolition of the ghetto in retaliation.

Kammler was also charged with constructing facilities for various secret weapons projects, including manufacturing plants and test stands for the Messerschmitt Me 262 and V-2. Following the Allied bombing raids on Peenemünde in "Operation Hydra" on August 17, 1943, Kammler was assigned to moving these production facilities underground, which resulted in the Mittelwerk facility and its attendant concentration camp complex, Mittelbau-Dora, which housed slave labour for constructing the factory and working on the production lines. He was also assigned to the construction of facilities at Jonastal and Riesengebirge for nuclear weapons research and at Ebensee to develop a V-2 derived ICBM.

In 1944, Himmler convinced Hitler to put the V-2 project directly under SS control, and on August 6 replaced Walter Dornberger with Kammler as its director. From January 1945, he was placed as head of all missile projects and just a month later was given charge of all German aerospace programs as these came under SS authority as well."

http://greyfalcon.us...red/KAMMLER.htm

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And very rare pictures of the arrival at Auschwitz and "selections" that followed, with most being gassed immediately afterward.

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Bearing in mind the fact that it took almost 30 years to locate the remains of a much more well-known Nazi - Martin Bormann - Kammler's disappearance doesn't seem in any way 'mysterious' to me. As has been stated, he had none of the technical know-how of von Braun so wouldn't have been of any particular interest to the Americans or the Soviets in that sense.

After years of scouring South America and following up sightings from all over the world, it's likely that Bormann never got any further from the Führerbunker than the Lehrter Bahnhof in Berlin. For my money, that's about as far as Kammler got!

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the holocaust was a cruel and hideous episode in modern history......

those videos were chilling

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According to this book, Kammler had a doctorate of engineering and was the SS version of Albert Speer, a ruthless and highly ambitious bureaucrat eager to get to the center of power. He visited Auschwitz with Himmler in 1942 and explained how the facility would be expanded with the much larger death camp at Birkenau and the four large gas chambers.

He learned quickly that Himmler only wanted to hear "positive" and "optimistic" reports, and did not want to be bothered about difficulties.

http://books.google.com/books?id=SnAMx8A7k68C&pg=PA66&dq=hans+kammler&hl=en&sa=X&ei=RQCnUK7bMZGC8QTajICoAg&ved=0CD8Q6AEwBQ

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At the very end of the war, on April 24, 1945, when Hitler needed a new head of the Lutfwaffe, he considered appointing Hans Kammler. The only problem was that he had already disappeared a week before and could not be located.

The rocket scientists like Von Braun were happy to see the last of Kammler, but were worried that he might still be up to something nefarious, perhaps even having them executed at the last minute, but this did not occur.

There were several versions of Kammler's "death". One SS officer said that he stopped his car in the woods near Prague on May 9, 1945 and took cyanide, with the remains buried in a makeshift grave.

Another witness said that he shot himself in the woods near Prague around that time.

Yet another said that he was killed in action in Prague, fighting against Czech partisans or possibly a Russian patrol--or that he was killed by another SS officer, either accidentally or by his own orders.

Obviously not all of these "witness" reports can be true and perhaps none of them are, but there is only general agreement that the last reported sighting of Kammler was probably in Prague around May 9, 1945, after Germany had already surrendered.

http://books.google.com/books?id=SnAMx8A7k68C&pg=PA66&dq=hans+kammler&hl=en&sa=X&ei=RQCnUK7bMZGC8QTajICoAg&ved=0CD8Q6AEwBQ

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According to this book, one of Kammler's projects was a new a very powerful explosive called N-Stoff, which was placed on V-2 rockets, It is still one of the mysteries of World War II, but is just one item among many that Kammler might have been able to trade for his own survival--if in fact he did survive.

Chlorine and Florine were among the ingredients used to make this explosive.

http://books.google....d=0CEUQ6AEwCDgK

Kammler was working on nuclear weapons as well, but the Germans were using different materials and theories than the British and American scientists, experimenting with "red mercury", lithium and substances like that. Maybe all this was a dead end, but maybe not.

Kammler's researchers like Dr.. Konrad Zeus also developed digital computers that were about 20 years ahead of their time and a host of other items, like liquid air bombs.

We do now that Kammler spoke Czech and the headquarters of his operation was in that country, where he used the Skoda industries and research facilities to build his various weapons and prototypes. He was almost paranoid in his security precautions and employed three different counter-intelligence units for the political, military and industrial aspects of his work. Not even Soviet intelligence was ever able to penetrate his organization.

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What do you think happened to him mac ? I read a rumor somewhere that the nazi bell that they were working on brought him to another planet.

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There was actually a video called The Aldebaran Mystery--Nazi UFO Secrets and it's ways out there. All I know is that Kammler went missing in 1945 and there is absolutely no reliable account of what became of him--not that this was any great loss to the world.

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According to one source "this warped and twisted administrative genius first came to the attention of Himmler and Hitler "with a brilliant hand-colored design for the Auschwitz concentration camp, which he subsequently built. Later he was called in to advise on the modalities for boosting the daily output of its gas chambers from 10,000 to 60,000."

Among his other duties were:

(1) Operational control of the V-l and V-2 terror bombardments of London, Liege, Brussels, Antwerp and Paris;

(2) Operational control of all missile production and research, including the V-2 and the intercontinental ballistic missile. the A9/10;

(3) Design and construction oversight of the world's "first bombproof underground aircraft and missile factory sites," including sites for the production of jet engines and the Messerschmitt 262;

(4) Command of the SS Building and Works Division, the department which handled all large construction projects for the Reich, including death camps, "Buna factories," and supply roads for invading German legions in Russia;

(5) Design and construction of the world's first underground testing and proving range for missiles;

(6) Command, control and coordination of all of the Third Reich's secret weapons research by the war's end.

At his base in Bohemia, there was also an organization for "the analysis, duplication, and improvement of all recovered foreign and enemy technology. This in itself is not surprising, since all major combatants during the war maintained such research facilities."

Kammler studied nuclear propulsion for aircraft and missiles, homing missiles, sonic weapons, lasers and "death rays" and many other secret projects, all years or decades ahead of their time.

If there ever was a Nazi organization for studying UFOs and ETs, then this was it.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CEsQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fthewebfairy.com%2F911%2Fmissilegate%2Frfz%2Fswaz%2Fchapter6.htm&ei=jHupUIm9H4Xs8wSLt4CYBg&usg=AFQjCNFiBz2kjtkLCAeugV23hr9fLss8ow&sig2=tSCfArMdAq7YgdmCIDHxbQ

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In truth, there are at least four different accounts of Kammler's death and others of his disappearance or plans to go underground and evade capture. Nothing can be said at all about him with any certainty after 1945 or even most of the advanced technical and scientific projects that he controlled.

It may have been important enough to divert Gen. Patton's Third Army to Pilsen, Czechoslovakia at the end of the war, if Allied intelligence had gleaned any information about all these secret projects connected with the Skoda works.

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Then there were all these stories about the "Bell" and other exotic technologies being tested by the Kammler Organization in underground facilities in Poland and Czechoslovakia, where they would be safe from Allied bombing. The Bell supposedly had some kind of mercury-ion propulsion system, if it ever really existed.

One thing is obvious, that the Nazis just weren't playing by the same rules as everyone else.

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Supposedly, Kammler was also working on theories to build a nuclear weapon based on thorium, which the Allies did not understand.

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UFO Hunters did have an episode where they went in search of Nazi UFOs and The Bell, and how the Nazis might have been the first to actually fire a rocket into space.

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According to this Top Secret report by British intelligence after the war, the German rocket scientists had also received offers from the Russians, even double what the Americans were paying them.

Gen. Dornberger also said that Kammler "had been ordered by the Führer not to let Braun, Dornberger and the 450 scientists and technicians at Peenemünde fall into Anglo-American hands but to liquidate them all beforehand."

Of course this was not done.

http://www.fpp.co.uk/Himmler/interrogations/CSDIC/GRGG341.html

Kammler also killed 6,000 prisoners at the Nordhausen concentration camp who were too weak or ill to continue working by having them all blown up. He even fired a V-2 rocket at a concentration camp once.

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There is one story about how Kammler made a deal with the OSS after he war and was flown out of Germany, perhaps first to Barcelona. Like Peron in Argentina, Gen. Franco in Spain was willing to give escaping Nazis a helping hand.

"Enter into the picture a Junkers Ju-290 A-5 aircraft with constructor's number 110178. This aircraft was withdrawn from Luftwaffe service and rebuilt at Templehoff into a civil aircraft in September 1944. It was given Deutsch Luft Hansa markings and civil serial as D-AITR "Bayeren". conversion was completed October 1944. Flughauptman Paul Sluzalek flew this aircraft from Prague to exile in Barcelona on 26 April 1945. It had a number of SS personnel aboard whom the Spanish have always refused to identify. Was Kammler a passenger with blessings of the OSS?"

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&ved=0CGAQFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fpp.co.uk%2FLetters%2FHistory_05%2FKammler_210405.html&ei=wPmpULGRDYeY8gSm6oGQBQ&usg=AFQjCNGmgY6kKx9GYSmm_uKjAlFaq6uS7g&sig2=9TJfwoNKmIXVvpZfvGnkzg

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Hitler did occasionally speak about other planets and alien civilizations, such as the conversations recorded in Table Talk.

One time, he said that "the universe, in its material elements, has the same composition whether we're speaking of the earth, the sun or any other planet. It is impossible to suppose nowadays that organic life exists only on our planet", and that there were other civilizations out there among the stars.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDYQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davnet.org%2Fkevin%2Farticles%2Ftable.html&ei=TvasUNW9J5LC9QSez4GoDw&usg=AFQjCNEb9jaxpfdXiTrE_7-z0ig7TDABiw&sig2=bJ7quUQBQZS1oryR_c2QSQ

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It would have been VERY different If they won the war

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Quite an impressive, yet disturbing thread. One of many people to escape to who knows what.

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Love the avatar MT

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Quite an impressive, yet disturbing thread. One of many people to escape to who knows what.

I doubt that anyone will ever know what really became of him, since he deliberately planted so many false trails before he disappeared. Whatever it was, he got off with much less than he deserved.

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