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What Happened to SS Gen. Hans Kammler?

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He should have been hanged.

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I've haven't heard much on the so called "Nazi Bell", I do know that Hitler and much of his higher ups dabbled in the occult and various Pagan rituals. The hallow earth theory comes to mind in part, and the Thule Society. It is a bit interesting if the German scientific community at this time was as into the occult as the German High Command.

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He should have been hanged.

Some one that diabolical should have been, but alas this was not the case.

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I've haven't heard much on the so called "Nazi Bell", I do know that Hitler and much of his higher ups dabbled in the occult and various Pagan rituals. The hallow earth theory comes to mind in part, and the Thule Society. It is a bit interesting if the German scientific community at this time was as into the occult as the German High Command.

Some of the Nazi leaders like Hess and Himmler were really interested in the occult and mysticism like this, and Himmler sent out expeditions to all parts of the world looking for relics of ancient civilizations. They really did believe that the 'Aryans' might have come from the stars or Atlantis, and that some of them might still be living under the earth or at the South Pole.

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I don't think that Kammler and his scientists were into that type of mysticism, though. He seemed more like a bureaucrat or technocrat type who dealt mainly with scientific and engineering problems.

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We've had a lucky escape...

Tbh,I wouldn't have given the Germans amnesty. However....

If that happened though the American space program would end up a shambles.

The first man on the moon would be Russian.

We would know less than we do now.

There would be less speculation on this board and more fuel to the FE society fodder.

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Thats speculation though right

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Thats speculation though right

No, he's just being a wise guy again.

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No, he's just being a wise guy again.

Oh okay

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Thats speculation though right

I think we need to resume searching high and low again for these Nazis...

The kind with slight German accents,white hair,jackboots and monocles.

We'll begin with Florida,nursing homes and the Moon.

Mossad would have done it but they've got their own troubles.

Hammler might have escaped the dragnet...

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Good gosh, he would be dead awhile ago.

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I think we need to resume searching high and low again for these Nazis...

The kind with slight German accents,white hair,jackboots and monocles.

We'll begin with Florida,nursing homes and the Moon.

Mossad would have done it but they've got their own troubles.

Hammler might have escaped the dragnet...

Himmler sucked cyanide long ago, which means he also got off much easier than he deserved.

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Thats speculation though right

no, they've found the secrets to immortality and are doing all great at high earth orbit... i'll quote:

On 2 February 2010, on Coast to Coast AM, Hoagland said that the Norwegian spiral was a demonstration of a godlike force by an off-world human power, sending a threatening message to any power on Earth with serious manned spaceflight aspirations beyond low Earth orbit (LEO).[75] He believes that something grabbed the Russian SLBM, possibly a Star Trek-like tractor beam, using "torsion weapons technology," bringing the missile to a halt within seconds after it had been traveling between nine and twelve thousand miles per hour. The missile was then sent sailing leisurely across the Norwegian skies at a speed of between two hundred and three hundred miles per hour. The off-world human power responsible for the missile interference, Hoagland believes, is likely a "'rebellious faction'" among the "'Nazi-derived off-world colonies."'[74] On Coast to Coast AM, Hoagland dropped the names of Joseph P. Farrell and Richard M. Dolan and said that the Nazi off-world colonies were founded by Nazi "geniuses," masterminded by Hans Kammler, that escaped Earth with their "secret space program" before the Earth-based Nazi Germany was defeated in 1945. He said that the space Nazis have become like "freaking gods" after having close to sixty years of undivided access to unconventional, Star Trek-like technology.[75] To Hoagland, this was a sufficient explanation of President Obama's desire to cancel Project Constellation, since Obama had clearly accepted that any attempt to return to the Moon would be thwarted by the superior technology of the Nazis in space.

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no, they've found the secrets to immortality and are doing all great at high earth orbit... i'll quote:

The off-world human power responsible for the missile interference, Hoagland believes, is likely a "'rebellious faction'" among the "'Nazi-derived off-world colonies."'[74] On Coast to Coast AM, Hoagland dropped the names of Joseph P. Farrell and Richard M. Dolan and said that the Nazi off-world colonies were founded by Nazi "geniuses," masterminded by Hans Kammler, that escaped Earth with their "secret space program" before the Earth-based Nazi Germany was defeated in 1945. He said that the space Nazis have become like "freaking gods" after having close to sixty years of undivided access to unconventional, Star Trek-like technology.[75] To Hoagland, this was a sufficient explanation of President Obama's desire to cancel Project Constellation, since Obama had clearly accepted that any attempt to return to the Moon would be thwarted by the superior technology of the Nazis in space.

Very funny.

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Very funny.

what has this thread got anything to do with ufos or aliens?

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what has this thread got anything to do with ufos or aliens?

If the Germans had any such program at all dealing with that subject, it probably came under Kammler's organization. Of course, all kinds of rumors and speculation have been floating around about him for years, but at first I just posted the historical information that we knew for certain about him.

Beyond that, it's hard to get much concrete proof about anything.

Geheimprojekte des Dr. Kammler

26. Oktober 2010

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Magazin200plus/Nr. 276 Auszug Seite 46: Genauso wie seine Projekte zur Geheimen Reichssache erklärt wurden, verschwand Kammler in Prag 1945 auf mysteriöse Art und Weise….

Kammler ließ die Glocke(das ultrageheimste Projekt) in ein U-Boot Richtung NSL verfrachten und flüchtete schließlich selbst…

In den erst kürzlich freigegebenen engl. UFO-Akten wird berichtet, daß in der Zeit von 1939 bis 1945 vermehrt UFO-Sichtungen über England und Deutschland beobachtet worden sind.

Der amerikanische Geheimdienst SOE berichtete bereits 1939 von Objekten mit einem Durchmesser von 100-150 Meter und 15-20

Dr. Ing. Hans Kammler SS Oberstgruppenführer

Chef der Absetzung und des Geheimstaates des Deutschen Reichs!

Im Krieg erst Chef des V1 und V2 Einsatzes, dann der (bis heute geheim!) Flugscheiben- und Zeitmaschinen-Entwicklung und der Absetzung. Die meisten Berichte über ihn geben zu, daß sein Verbleib bis heute ungeklärt ist. Einzelne Berichte sagen, er sei 1945 gestorben, andere, er sei bis in die 60er Jahre in den USA ohne Erfolg in der Waffenentwicklung tätig gewesen. In Wirklichkeit ging er 1945 in die Geheimbasen und blieb dort.

Quelle U.com

geb.: 26.08.1901, in Stettin

SS-Brigadeführer (Allgemeine SS), Generalmajor,

Chef der Amtsgruppe C “Bauwesen” Herr über 175.000 Häftlinge (ab 1942)

SS-Gruppenführer und Generalleutnant der Waffen-SS (1943)

SS-Obergruppenführer und General der Waffen-SS (1945) >>>

Es gab nur wenige Menschen, die im 3. Reich mit fast allen der geheimsten Bunker- & Rüstunganlagen vertraut waren.

Es gibt wenige Persönlichkeiten, deren Tätigkeit auch heute noch fast vollständig unbekannt ist.

Die wohl beeindruckenste Persönlichkeit ist ein gewisser Hans Kammler, der eine unvergleichliche Rolle spielte.

Schaut man sich den Lebenslauf und die Entwicklung Kammlers an, fällt auf, dass er sich egal auf welchen Gebiet und mit welcher Aufgabe betraut, immer glänzend bewährte.

Kammler wurde am 26.8.1901 in Stettin geboren. Er beginnt seine Laufbahn als Bauingenieuer promoviert später zum Doktor. Er ist der ideale SS-Typ blond, blauäugig, von asketischen äußeren und äußerst intelligent. In der Hierarchie des dritten Reiches erreicht er mehr als irgendwer sonst.

Sein Eintritt in die SS ermöglicht ihm eine Karriere ohnegleichen, sein letzter Dienstrang ist Obergruppenführer (entspricht 2 Sterne General).>>>

Projekte:

Jonastal (D), Deckname “Olga”

Nordhausen (D), Deckname “Mittelwerk” – größte unterirdische V1 und V2 Fabrik

Riesengebirge (PL), Deckname “Riese” – Nuklearforschung

B1-Ebensee (A), Deckname “Zement” – Forschungsanlage für Interkontinentalrakete A9/10 B8-Gusen (A), Deckname “Bergkristall” – Me 262 Düsenjägerwerk

B9-Melk (A), Deckname “Quarz”

B10-Roggendorf (A), Deckname “Quarz II”

Zipf (A), Deckname “Schlier” – Triebwerksteststand für V2 Triebwerke (bis heute geheim!) Flugscheiben- und Zeitmaschinen-Entwicklung und der Absetzung.

letzter bekannter Dienstgrad soll :

SS-Oberstgruppenführer und General der Waffen-SS (1945 kurz vor der Absetzung) sein

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CEcQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fxinos.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F10%2F26%2Fgeheimprojekte-des-dr-kammler%2F&ei=lwC7UMCgNYis8AShs4GADQ&usg=AFQjCNF6PNf8hxPGfZmG7wVAfd5urRrfQQ&sig2=OO6FNcPwIALL5XG0KBrRzQ

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To make a long story short, in English it just says he was a big noise in the SS, involved in rockets, nuclear research, and some things that are still secret today. Rumored to have tried out flying saucer prototypes and other exotic technologies, and went missing after the war. Some rumors had it that he went to the US and was still there in the 1960s, but no one knows for certain.

It also says that he was the ideal Nazi-SS type, tall, blond-haired, with a real swagger in his step, etc. I never doubted that for a second, especially when he had a few hundred thousand slave laborers under his command.

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no, they've found the secrets to immortality and are doing all great at high earth orbit... i'll quote:

On 2 February 2010, on Coast to Coast AM, Hoagland said that the Norwegian spiral was a demonstration of a godlike force by an off-world human power, sending a threatening message to any power on Earth with serious manned spaceflight aspirations beyond low Earth orbit (LEO).[75] He believes that something grabbed the Russian SLBM, possibly a Star Trek-like tractor beam, using "torsion weapons technology," bringing the missile to a halt within seconds after it had been traveling between nine and twelve thousand miles per hour. The missile was then sent sailing leisurely across the Norwegian skies at a speed of between two hundred and three hundred miles per hour. The off-world human power responsible for the missile interference, Hoagland believes, is likely a "'rebellious faction'" among the "'Nazi-derived off-world colonies."'[74] On Coast to Coast AM, Hoagland dropped the names of Joseph P. Farrell and Richard M. Dolan and said that the Nazi off-world colonies were founded by Nazi "geniuses," masterminded by Hans Kammler, that escaped Earth with their "secret space program" before the Earth-based Nazi Germany was defeated in 1945. He said that the space Nazis have become like "freaking gods" after having close to sixty years of undivided access to unconventional, Star Trek-like technology.[75] To Hoagland, this was a sufficient explanation of President Obama's desire to cancel Project Constellation, since Obama had clearly accepted that any attempt to return to the Moon would be thwarted by the superior technology of the Nazis in space.

HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

Good one! :))

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Supposedly, Kammler did experiment with making a nuclear bomb from thorium, although this website says that's impossible.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&sqi=2&ved=0CFEQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ensec.org%2Findex.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle%26id%3D%2520187%3Athorium-as-a-secure-nuclear-fuel-alternative%26catid%3D%252094%3A0409content%26Itemid%3D342&ei=Rxq7UNWlIIu89QSLjYHYBA&usg=AFQjCNE7E-PbsVpiZAS7xdjMyl6poMkxeQ&sig2=f3YyEmvNX35fB6YrNg2lKw

Thorium is a naturally-occurring fertile material – the only other one on earth besides natural uranium. Like uranium, 232-thorium can accept a slow neutron and transmute into a nuclear fuel, which then undergoes nuclear reactions, releasing enormous amounts of energy. The fissile material created is 233-uranium isotope. This thorium fuel cycle carries with it a number of important natural properties some of which contrast sharply with the uranium fuel cycle:

-At no point in the thorium cycle – from mining to waste – can fuel or waste products be used as bomb material in any way;

-The thorium fuel cycle is inherently incapable of causing a meltdown according to the laws of physics; in nuclear reactor parlance, the fuel is said to contain passive safety features;

-Thorium-based fuels do not require conversion or enrichment – two essential phases of the uranium fuel cycle that are exceedingly expensive, and create proliferation risk;

-Thorium fuel cycle waste material consists mostly of 233-uranium, which can be recycled as fuel (with minor actinide content decreased 90-100%, and with plutonium content eliminated entirely);

-Thorium-based fuels are significantly energy efficient;

-Thorium fuel cycle waste material is radiotoxic for tens of years, as opposed to the thousands of years with today’s standard radioactive waste;

-Thorium fuel designs exist today that can be used in all existing nuclear reactors;

-Thorium exists in greater abundance and higher concentrations than uranium making it much less expensive and environmentally-unobtrusive to mine;

These facts have many serious implications for the efficiency and security of energy delivery in the United States, and the world.

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Yet this website says it can be used to make an atomic bomb, so maybe Kammler and his scientists were on to something after all.

Filtering contaminants out of thorium bred U-233 to make weapons grade fissile material is not rocket science. Oak Ridge National Laboratory (ORNL) created a process to do this. They kindly wrote about it in a history included in the ORNL Review publication (search the long page for the words “THOREX” or “Uranium-233″):

By 1954, the Laboratory’s chemical technologists had completed a pilot plant demonstrating the ability of the THOREX process to separate thorium, protactinium, and uranium-233 from fission products and from each other. This process could isolate uranium-233 for weapons development and also for use as fuel in the proposed thorium breeder reactors.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&sqi=2&ved=0CEsQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fkevinmeyerson.wordpress.com%2F2012%2F05%2F07%2Fthorium-nuclear-bombs-short-version%2F&ei=axu7ULT3LILA8ATm-4D4Dg&usg=AFQjCNG9QMjmTlywzwM7PcOoyR8UpNyN-A&sig2=yAWYwk8_V8QkqgAQcTEutA

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Allegedly, Kammler was also trying to make some kind of bomb using red mercury, which some people think can be used to build a "dirty bomb".

The five main theories are:

  • That red mercury is a reference to cinnabar, a naturally-occurring mercuric sulphide. The red pigment derived from cinnabar is known as vermillion.
  • That it is a reference to the alpha crystalline form of mercury iodide, which changes to a yellow colour at very high temperatures.
  • That it is simply referring to any mercury compound originating from the former Soviet Union. The 'red' tag would simply be a legacy of the Cold War era.
  • That it is a ballotechnic mercury compound which just happens to be red in colour. Ballotechnics are substances which react very energetically when subjected to shock compression at high pressure. They include mercury antimony oxide which, according to some reports, is a cherry red semi-liquid produced in Russian nuclear reactors. This theory contends that it is so explosive that a fusion reaction - a nuclear explosion - can be triggered even without fissionable material such as uranium.
  • That it is a military codeword for a new nuclear material, probably manufactured in Russia.
    Interestingly Dr Helmenstine mentioned rumours of prices of up to $300,000 being charged on the black market for a kilogram of red mercury.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&sqi=2&ved=0CEoQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.bbc.co.uk%2F2%2Fhi%2Fuk_news%2F5176382.stm&ei=4Ry7UILcMYeE9QTfi4GoAw&usg=AFQjCNHhadcClz4nWzi8FUxJXTUTc2yHvg&sig2=XT9dknL3JZsit6jc504XGA

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Sam Cohen, the physicist who invented the neutron bomb, sheds a little more light on the destructive power of red mercury. As quoted from a June 15, 1997 http://www.manuelswe...m/sam_cohen.htm article by Christopher Ruddy of the Tribune-Review, it states:

'Most frightening for Cohen is the relative ease by which neutron bombs can be created with a substance called red mercury. Red mercury is a compound containing mercury that has undergone irradiation. When exploded, it creates tremendous heat and pressure - the same type needed to trigger a fusion device such as a mini-neutron bomb.

Before, an obstacle to creating a nuclear bomb was the need for plutonium, which when exploded could create a fusion reaction in hydrogen atoms. But red mercury has changed that. The cheap substance has been produced in Russia, Cohen said, and shipped on the black market throughout the world.

Cohen said that when UN inspectors went to Iraq to examine the Iraqi's nuclear weapons capabilities, the U.N. team found documents showing that they had purchased quantities of red mercury. The material means that a neutron bomb can be built "the size of a baseball" but able to kill everyone within several square blocks."

http://www.google.co...ig7exkHgLWyoKwA

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A lot of people can thank their lucky stars that Reinhard Heydrich was assasinated... in regard to the SS.

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He's probably dead just like all the others. Interesting topic, MacGuffin.

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