The Ancient Alien Theory Is True

[Space Commander Travis]

Who else could it have been but ETs who put rocks together in a wacky fashion, indeed. I think that's the smoking gnu right there.

[badeskov]

Who else could it have been but ETs who put rocks together in a wacky fashion, indeed. I think that's the smoking gnu right there.

Cheers,

Badeskov

[seeder]

Whoa, the "jigsaw wall" question hasn't been satisfactorily explained by the skeptics yet, or have I missed it?

If they were carved by hand with primitive tools, why on earth didn't the ancient peoples make it much easier on themselves by carving square or rectangular stones instead of multi- angled ones like these?

yes you missed it. why not go back just 20 pages and catch up? Its the very least you can do if you want to jump in the conversation, isnt it? These walls are all round the med too, you know that includes roman and greek plus more, oh and japan of course. Funny with your posts pics isn't it, that the higher the walls, the smaller the top stones...

guess man was making it easy for himself after all. If you want to be taken seriously why not do as I suggest and read the last 20 pages?

[Crikey]

...If you want to be taken seriously why not do as I suggest and read the last 20 pages?...

I knew somebody'd say that, it's an old debating trick to fob somebody off and avoid giving them a brief straight answer..

Anyway if the answer to "jigsaw walls" is so simple, why does it need 20 pages to explain it? Is there anybody here who can explain it in a single sentence?

[Harte]

The Inca's didn't use morta and their huge granite stones fit together so completely a needle won't fit between them. It's a mystery how they cut these huge stones.

Except there's a clip in this thread showing Protzen and his crew doing exactly that. By hand. With pounding stones.

It's impossible to cut them without using laser.

Lasers won't cut smoothly through stone. The temperature differential would crack the stone. If you want to postulate some "super laser," which would require a power source like a modern power station, then you'll have to explain why it is that the quarries don't have huge melted out gouges where the laser came through the other side of each stone they cut.

Harte

[S2F]

It's actually easier to take some odd shaped stones and work the edges to make them fit together than it is to try and square every stone. Less shaping involved that way. Actually I meant to say less material needs to be removed to achieve a 'fit'.

Edited January 20, 2013 by Slave2Fate

[Harte]

well how mysterious can a wall be? they just sit there, holding something up.

A wall is only "mysterious" under two situations:

- You're arguing with it

- You're banging your head against it.

The former leads to the latter.

You are practicing the former.

Buy a helmet, I say.

Harte

[seeder]

A wall is only "mysterious" under two situations:

- You're arguing with it

- You're banging your head against it.

The former leads to the latter.

You are practicing the former.

Buy a helmet, I say.

Harte

:clap:

[bmk1245]

A wall is only "mysterious" under two situations:

- You're arguing with it

- You're banging your head against it.

The former leads to the latter.

You are practicing the former.

Buy a helmet, I say.

Harte

Your post must be put on the wall of fame!

Dammit, spelling...

Edited January 20, 2013 by bmk1245

[seeder]

I knew somebody'd say that, it's an old debating trick to fob somebody off and avoid giving them a brief straight answer..

Anyway if the answer to "jigsaw walls" is so simple, why does it need 20 pages to explain it? Is there anybody here who can explain it in a single sentence?

Old debating trick? No its called evaluating the evidence and if you will not look at evidence, you have no respectable debate

It doesn't need 20 pages to explain it, its a single post by me.. but I cant be bothered to look thru last 20 pages and find it. Ive done tonnes of research for this thread. 20 pages looking for only 'seeders' posts prolly take about ten mins

But heres the thing, if you live in an earthquake zone, and you have no mortar, (you know coz aliens never thought of the sticky stuff... that man finally come up with), and you build with polygonal masonry, this means, usually, that you can remove any base or mid stone, from the structure and the wall or structure will not collapse, hence why they interlocked the stones.. simple really.

Edited January 20, 2013 by seeder

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

I'm waiting for your proof against WoH. Presumably you have it?.

There is not one scrap of physical evidence let behind. Not a shred of torn uniform, not a misplaced book, not a lost shoe, nothing. Not even a footprint.

Even the most diligent of expeiditons leave some trace of their own technology behind. As we see by our own history, even the most lost to time cultures leave trace of artefacts. But there is nothing anomolously non-human left behind. Even the walls fail the "they must be aliens" because although advanced, they're similar to other human/built walls.

I'm sure someone an aruge that those other walls were humans aping the aliens, and I'm sure people have argued that. But the point is, there is nothing about the jigsaw walls or the precision walls that is so advanced that is so impossible thst it couldn't be a relic of man. Aleit a man more advanced then mainstream archaeologists would have us believe. And that's not an alien concept either, it's something that purvades the consensus and has sinc there was a consensus on anything.

Whoa, the "jigsaw wall"question hasn't been satisfactorily explained by the skeptics yet, or have I missed

I seem to recall an explanation being offered tht tht're only so precisely joined on the side facing outwards, on the inwards side they're full of debris etc to fill in the gaps.

[seeder]

so, keeping it fresh, have a look at this vid and notice the polygonal walls:

This is Delphi, Greece: Temple of Apollo,

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Funny that isnt it? Thought only Peruvians built that way?

BUT, if anyone were to Google up the words: "Polygonal Masonry" or even: " polygonal walls"

we see this style is found in quite a few other places too. Now below I present an image search results page, I haven't selected any particular image, the reader can do that for themselves

see more images of polygonal walls at Temple of Apollo, Delphi. (Oh and columns)

https://www.google.c...GOuv14QSO1oDgBA

and yet more at 'the Capitolium'

https://www.google.c...bMqjk4QSs8ICADQ

Must have been aliens all over the damned world!! And so have a quick browse of the first 2 paragraphs about this style in ITALY!

https://docs.google....Qh5N8kW2NZAErwg

Moving on to Cosa, Italy, and I quote:

"Limestone fortification walls of polygonal masonry from the Roman colony of Cosa (Tuscany, Italy), founded in 273 B.C. Note the three visible courses of quasi isodomic masonry visible beneath the larger polygonal blocks.

http://www.flickr.co...ich/4752324354/

and a wiki

http://en.wikipedia....walls_and_gates

So this IS evidence that not only Peruvians made irregular shaped stones into walls. Evidence that man did it, in many parts of the ancient world. And at no other site is there mention of softening stones to get a tight fit... wonder why that is?

Im not providing more... but Ive presented evidence of the style being used, further afield than has been mentioned here.

Excellent work by the stone masons again, I just hope Brien Forester doesn't go there - and in his lack of understanding attribute it to the AA

Puma Punku is interesting no doubt, as are all the other ancient sites. But...man did it.

repost for crikey who wont look into past posts...

[psyche101]

Can somebody tell me if my following appraisal of this thread is correct, based on what I've seen so far?-

That depends. If you do not like the answer, will you disappear for 20 or more pages and then come back and say nobody replied to you?

Which I must say was rich coming from you.

With a breathtaking display of open-mindedness and fearlessness in pushing the envelope of modernistic out-of-the-box thinking, Zoser and his devotees are running rings round the rest of you close-minded neanderthals, is that a fair assessment?..

Do you have reading problems? If so, please nominate such and the good folk here at UM will be more than willing to assist you I am sure.

Edited January 21, 2013 by psyche101

[TheOtherSide1945]

http://www.12vn.net/...ufo-aliens.html

http://www.crystalin...ufohistory.html

http://theghostdiari...in-ancient-art/

http://2.bp.blogspot...ien carving.JPG

so people throughout history, from all over the world, have been trolling you sceptics for 1,000's of years? there is only one explanation if these are not pictures of actual aliens. they intentionally drew/painted these fake ufos and aliens to troll us. they said one day there will be the internet. on this internet there will be a forum called unexplained mysteries. there will be fanatical sceptics. there will be fanatical believers. lets troll the sceptics and mess with the weak minded believers.

Edited January 21, 2013 by TheOtherSide1945

[S2F]

http://www.12vn.net/...ufo-aliens.html

http://www.crystalin...ufohistory.html

http://theghostdiari...in-ancient-art/

http://2.bp.blogspot...ien carving.JPG

so people throughout history, from all over the world, have been trolling you sceptics for 1,000's of years? there is only one explanation if these are not pictures of actual aliens. they intentionally drew/painted these fake ufos and aliens to troll us.

Or they are not pictures of aliens at all. By the way, that first image from your first link is a fake, in case anyone didn't know.

[TheOtherSide1945]

Or they are not pictures of aliens at all. By the way, that first image from your first link is a fake, in case anyone didn't know.

what were they then? can you prove they aren't aliens? thats fine that 1 is fake. no i didn't know. now we all now.

Edited January 21, 2013 by TheOtherSide1945

[S2F]

what were they then? can you prove they aren't aliens? thats fine that 1 is fake. no i didn't know. now we all now.

Well, we would have to look at the context of the images, taking into consideration the social, cultural and religious/spiritual nature of the people that made them. They could be spirit ancestors or stylized representations of normal people or portrayals of divine beings or any number of things. To take the images out of context and place our own pre-conceived ideas onto them isn't the most objective approach.

[Oniomancer]

http://www.12vn.net/...ufo-aliens.html

http://www.crystalin...ufohistory.html

http://theghostdiari...in-ancient-art/

http://2.bp.blogspot...ien carving.JPG

so people throughout history, from all over the world, have been trolling you sceptics for 1,000's of years? there is only one explanation if these are not pictures of actual aliens. they intentionally drew/painted these fake ufos and aliens to troll us. they said one day there will be the internet. on this internet there will be a forum called unexplained mysteries. there will be fanatical sceptics. there will be fanatical believers. lets troll the sceptics and mess with the weak minded believers.

Not at all. It's only in the last 75 years or so years that people have come to try and associate these things with aliens.

Edited January 21, 2013 by Oniomancer

[TheOtherSide1945]

Well, we would have to look at the context of the images, taking into consideration the social, cultural and religious/spiritual nature of the people that made them. They could be spirit ancestors or stylized representations of normal people or portrayals of divine beings or any number of things. To take the images out of context and place our own pre-conceived ideas onto them isn't the most objective approach.

ok spirit ancestors or divine beings, ie interdimensional beings, ie aliens. stylized representations that very similar from various ancient cultures that apperently had no contact?

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

animal headed deities are aliens?

I thoguht they were anthropmorphised parts of the environment, the worship of which was an attempt to exert control of their environment (ie pray to the cow-headed god of dairy farming to have healthy animals etc).

[psyche101]

http://www.12vn.net/...ufo-aliens.html

http://www.crystalin...ufohistory.html

http://theghostdiari...in-ancient-art/

http://2.bp.blogspot...ien carving.JPG

so people throughout history, from all over the world, have been trolling you sceptics for 1,000's of years? there is only one explanation if these are not pictures of actual aliens. they intentionally drew/painted these fake ufos and aliens to troll us. they said one day there will be the internet. on this internet there will be a forum called unexplained mysteries. there will be fanatical sceptics. there will be fanatical believers. lets troll the sceptics and mess with the weak minded believers.

I do not think people have been trolling for thousands of years, I think some unscrupulous types have decided to cash in on re-writing history and selling historical record like cheeseburgers.

Many of these photo's are pictures of Wondjina. They are spirit folk, not Aliens, they are not ever supposed to be physical. Do you know why they have no mouths? If they open them, the rain will never cease. When they die, they put their image on a wall near a waterhole, and they enter it. That is a waterhole on earth.

There you learned something, I would expect begrudgingly, all the same you have some real information, not something someone made up when they saw a cave painting. Wondjina that you have depicted as spacemen, are more certainly not spacemen. They also say Salu the Sun woman lights a fire everyday and that is the sunrise explained.

What this nonsense is, is vandalism, not proof. I thinks such idiocy should be met with the law, not a forum. Also, the Wondjina paintings have been redone, some at least 40 times. They now sport new features such as eyebrows. Do you even know which is historical and that which is not?

The eye of God is another common art icon that is used frequently in early paintings. It is often called a flying saucer, but it is not. All ancient art has to offer is a display of willful ignorance. I think it is pretty stupid to rely on interpretations of others to provide you with the proof you can swallow. As long as it sounds cool it must be right huh?

People have no right interpreting an image without at least listening to what the culture that made it says it is. That anyone would consider such modern interpretations as proof is very telling indeed, and is anything but firming a position for the ETH. It's a tin foil hat award winner.

Seriously, how can one swallow this crap, and miss the obvious, if not weak minded????????

[psyche101]

animal headed deities are aliens?

I thoguht they were anthropmorphised parts of the environment, the worship of which was an attempt to exert control of their environment (ie pray to the cow-headed god of dairy farming to have healthy animals etc).

I reckon a Totem Pole would be quite an interesting animal if such depictions are considered to be accurate!

[TheOtherSide1945]

I do not think people have been trolling for thousands of years, I think some unscrupulous types have decided to cash in on re-writing history and selling historical record like cheeseburgers.

Many of these photo's are pictures of Wondjina. They are spirit folk, not Aliens, they are not ever supposed to be physical. Do you know why they have no mouths? If they open them, the rain will never cease. When they die, they put their image on a wall near a waterhole, and they enter it. That is a waterhole on earth.

There you learned something, I would expect begrudgingly, all the same you have some real information, not something someone made up when they saw a cave painting. Wondjina that you have depicted as spacemen, are more certainly not spacemen. They also say Salu the Sun woman lights a fire everyday and that is the sunrise explained.

What this nonsense is, is vandalism, not proof. I thinks such idiocy should be met with the law, not a forum. Also, the Wondjina paintings have been redone, some at least 40 times. They now sport new features such as eyebrows. Do you even know which is historical and that which is not?

The eye of God is another common art icon that is used frequently in early paintings. It is often called a flying saucer, but it is not. All ancient art has to offer is a display of willful ignorance. I think it is pretty stupid to rely on interpretations of others to provide you with the proof you can swallow. As long as it sounds cool it must be right huh?

People have no right interpreting an image without at least listening to what the culture that made it says it is. That anyone would consider such modern interpretations as proof is very telling indeed, and is anything but firming a position for the ETH. It's a tin foil hat award winner.

Seriously, how can one swallow this crap, and miss the obvious, if not weak minded????????

lol and spirit beings aren't interdimensional beings? you call it vandalism, so trolling. what about the later paintings? those can't be secret military craft. i see you are p***ed off. my efforts to carry on the work of the ancient trolls is going well.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

to assume the sidhe are aliens would be to limit the sidhe - the're alien in that to man they, their aims and nature are unknowable, but not aliens in the fact they're from another planet. After all, the planet they're from is Earth, just not the same Earth we're from.

[psyche101]

lol and spirit beings aren't interdimensional beings?

LOL, no do you understand culture at all?

Do you feel if we had a visit from an Interdimensional being, that it would need to keep it's mouth closed, or the rain would never stop falling? Or do they light a fire in space, wich is the real explanation for the sun? Or what about that giant snake I mentioned? The Rainbow Serpent Just another friendly inter-dimensional being that visits planets to carve them river systems? Have you ever read how the Australian Indigenous explain why crows are black?

Do you know what the Dreamtime is?

you call it vandalism, so trolling.

No vandalism, Call a spade a spade, Real damage is being done, that is vandalism. what you are doing is trolling, and I will explain how further down.

what about the later paintings? those can't be secret military craft.

What about them? They have common theme icons in them too. Whilst my understanding of medieval and ancient art is minimal, your's seems to be nonexistent. How much time have you spent trying to understand real art? How many artists have you read about?

None hey, but I bet you have many woo woo sites under you belt, saving you such work, and telling you what you want to hear.

i see you are p***ed off. my efforts to carry on the work of the ancient trolls is going well.

And here I wiIl get back to the above-mentioned comment.

This is "your effort" is it? To annoy those who have a think about this nonsense, instead of swallowing it blindly? That is what you are proud of is it? Making sure no actual fact gets out, but the crackpot theories get center stage? This is what makes you tick is it? You want to see that any descriptions of actual historical record are buried, and that fringe crackpot theories that have only risen in the last 75 years get precedence? You want to make sure nobody gets a fair crack at history you want to be able to guide that history do you?

And you are proud of yourself for this?? Really? I most certainly would not only be ashamed to publicly say I only want ET in so I can annoy skeptics, I would be embarrassed at all those who do study these record, historian and the like, not to mention those not even born that never get a crack at the actual record, but the modern interpretation used to sell nonsense.

Seriously, if that is what makes you tick, I would have a really, good long and hard look in the mirror. I am upset at the actual loss of real history, and this is what makes you smile? That's a bit sick I reckon.

Edited January 21, 2013 by psyche101