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The Ancient Alien Theory Is True

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wacky :innocent::blush::santa::w00t:

Oops sorry, didn't mean to post that, i was just experimenting with something.

Still, I think it can stand.

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Answer my question, Zoser.

How about Sillustani?

You answer, and I will post the pic I took.

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Is it not obvious to you that is a plug for Peruvian tourism?

Ongoing DNA testing? How long does it take?

These skulls could be deformities. How old are these bones? They don't look ancient to me.

I do like the image that clearly shows trepanning. Amazing that such advanced beings would have required such crude surgery from us technologically inferior humans.

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Maybe I'll check out my family history sometime.

Do you reckon they can do non human DNA for the same price?

What about ancient skulls? Maybe we should ask them to give us a quote?

If you're going to do family dna, here is a good site. http://www.familytreedna.com/

Actually just doing a regular dna test would return anomalies if the dna were alien.

Of course they do not have Universities backing them. Universities tend to back fantasy rather than reality.

If that were true than all the universities would have jumped on the AA bandwagon long ago.

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Refutation of the wire theory.

I remarked earlier how I thought that the wire theory was the only remotely plausible prosaic explanation (apologies for all the adjectives).

I believe this clip refutes the wire theory. Look at this passage way/canyon which is precision cut. Impossible to do with a wire saw due to room constraints.

Showing signs of vitrification (heat).

Beginning at 1:56 to save people's time.

Monotypical thinking again. Nobody uses one tool for every job. (I say this as Toolbox Murders is playing on SyFy)

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Monotypical thinking again. Nobody uses one tool for every job. (I say this as Toolbox Murders is playing on SyFy)

The idea of multiple methods is supportable but across the country and at different time periods. Bit of a stretch to know that they were capable of precision cutting at Ollyantaytambo by unknown means (as verified by Foersters clip) and then did other blocks by some alternative method at the same site.

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So, we are in agreement that any specialised building/cutting technique would have been recorded?

Difficult to imagine the Spanish seeing something extra ordinary and not noting it; unless it fell under church censorship. Always a possibility I suppose.

To be clear from my point of view; this is saying to me that the Spanish did not see anything extra ordinary. Reason being it was done before they arrived.

Abe I will try and answer your question brb.

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Difficult to imagine the Spanish seeing something extra ordinary and not noting it; unless it fell under church censorship. Always a possibility I suppose.

To be clear from my point of view; this is saying to me that the Spanish did not see anything extra ordinary. Reason being it was done before they arrived.

Abe I will try and answer your question brb.

if it wasn't made of gold i doubt the spanish would have noticed it

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If you're going to do family dna, here is a good site. http://www.familytreedna.com/

Actually just doing a regular dna test would return anomalies if the dna were alien.

If that were true than all the universities would have jumped on the AA bandwagon long ago.

On the subject of DNA analysis, university involvement, and the smoke-and-mirrors tactic of perpetuating claims in the field of ETology...

I receive regular updates from Dr. Steven Greer regarding his latest endeavors and accomplishments.

For what seems like forever, he has been soliciting donations up to $50k, to produce a film on the subject, on which of course, he is a self proclaimed leader.

In his latest update, he continues the saga about the film and continues to perpetuate his claim of having the corpse of an ET in a shoebox on his desk....

I am not promoting this, I am just showing it as an example of how the DNA and universities theme is exploited.

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Please post and circulate widely

Sirius Film update

Many of you have been asking when the film will be finished and available. Please let us clarify. The campaign to raise money for the production just ended on December 5. We thank all of you so much for your enthusiastic contributions. But that is not the end of the work. We are awaiting the results of the genetic testing on the little 6 inch being. That testing is being done by a scientist top in his field in a major US university. He has ordered specialized equipment and materials to obtain the most accurate results possible and the timing is out of our control. We feel this would be a powerful addition to the film and await his results . When he has them he will be filmed discussing his findings.

We anticipate the Sirius film will be ready for initial release late winter/ early spring 2013.

Listed below are the promised incentive gifts and the deliver dates that were listed as estimated dates on the kickstarter site when we started the campaign.

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He then goes on to list the donation levels and the tremendous awards for doing so. From $5 right up to $50k....

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$10,000 donation - private dinner with Dr. Greer - January 2013 - All those who have made this level of donation have been contacted and some have already enjoyed dinner with Dr. Greer.

$25,000 donation - CE-5 Expedition in US - Those eligible have been contacted.

$50,000 donation - UK Crop Circle Expedition - Those eligible have been contacted.

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I am in contact with some of his followers, and yes, he does receive funding of this magnitude.

All based on continued promises.

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OK Zoser, I will try again.

On Sardinia you will find a stepped pyramid, the Monte d'Accodi

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And then you will find the oldest ziggurat in Iran, the Sialk ziggurat:

According to radicarbon dating these step pyramids are within a century apart.

The question is: who influenced whom??

But we are able to compare because we know of the Sardinian stepped pyramid, and we know of the oldest Iranian stepped pyramid.

Can you show us the 'alien' buildings and structures that you say must be equal to the buildings and structures in Peru and Bolivia?

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I honestly don't know how to answer your last question. You are asking about evidence of precision high technology outside of Peru and Bolivia circa 2500BC.

My belief is that the GP is much older so I wouldn't count that. I do believe that the GP is ancient high technology (visitors).

Second part of your question.

You ask influenced by whom?

To cut through a lot of the story my understanding is that Egypt was abandoned in pre-history and the people scattered to various part of the Mediterranean area and Persia.

I had not heard of the Sardinia pyramid until you mentioned it but my version seems to correlate with this.

At approx 4000 BC there was a diaspora and Egypt began again. This later (circa 3100BC) led to what we know of as dynastic Egypt.

There is much more but in brief that is my understanding.

Did I answer your question?

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My belief is that the GP is much older so I wouldn't count that. I do believe that the GP is ancient high technology (visitors).

This is at least the third time you have mentioned this. So, you discount the carbon dating, then?

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Lucky you being that hot! Try living in soaking wet UK.

This is the latest smoking gun.

See what you think.

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The first stone shown and we are told that Engineer Dan has found a perfectly straight line obviously cut by a machine or saw and has a gap that is even throughout.

In reality the gap is not the same across the top and definitely less than the top part of the gap on the right side. That top part on the side is wider than any other part of the gap. To me it looks like a natural fracture line in the rock, similar to many I have seen in my life.

We are then told that those stones don't belong there that they are not their original position, that they were made for a specific purpose and that somehow it shows that it's not that it was unfinished but that it exploded/blew apart.

If it did blow apart, there would be cracks,breakage, pulverization and chemical or thermal evidence on the stones that you would find with an explosion, but such does not exist.

There is also the comparison between the two different types of stone work and the comment that there was no way that the same people (Incas) that created the smaller stone work created the larger stones.

Kentucky stone wall mid 1800's

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White house 1846

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From this we can infer, using the same logic, that there is no way that the same people (Americans) that created the stone wall could have built the White House.

I fail to see a smoking gun in any of the video.

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This is at least the third time you have mentioned this. So, you discount the carbon dating, then?

In short yes. Where was the sample taken from and how reliable is it? I'm so certain about this that I know there has to be a flaw in the methodology.

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Ok, what is overall length of the holes? Please post number in meters.

We'll likely never see an honest answer to that bmk because then zoser might just have to quantify his statements.

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The first stone shown and we are told that Engineer Dan has found a perfectly straight line obviously cut by a machine or saw and has a gap that is even throughout.

In reality the gap is not the same across the top and definitely less than the top part of the gap on the right side. That top part on the side is wider than any other part of the gap. To me it looks like a natural fracture line in the rock, similar to many I have seen in my life.

We are then told that those stones don't belong there that they are not their original position, that they were made for a specific purpose and that somehow it shows that it's not that it was unfinished but that it exploded/blew apart.

If it did blow apart, there would be cracks,breakage, pulverization and chemical or thermal evidence on the stones that you would find with an explosion, but such does not exist.

There is also the comparison between the two different types of stone work and the comment that there was no way that the same people (Incas) that created the smaller stone work created the larger stones.

Kentucky stone wall mid 1800's

White house 1846

From this we can infer, using the same logic, that there is no way that the same people (Americans) that created the stone wall could have built the White House.

I fail to see a smoking gun in any of the video.

I knew someone would think it was a fracture line; I had considered it myself. Bit of a coincidence that it's flush with the rest of the surface don't you think? Can you find evidence of anything similar? Also similar cuts turn up in Egypt.

See this clip also (which by the way someone thinks has to be a fake):

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Do see that all you are doing is inventing more and more unbelievable explanations to patch up a collapsing theory. Every single piece of evidence has to have some bizarre explanation to it. Yet you cannot produce one rational piece of evidence to say that it was done any other way.

The burden is on you not me. You are the ones that need to explain yourselves. I'm sitting comfortably on irrefutable evidence of high technology. You are sitting on nothing but bizarre excuses.

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We'll likely never see an honest answer to that bmk because then zoser might just have to quantify his statements.

The burden is on you not me I'm afraid. Sorry.

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Synch thought this was done with an angle grinder. Freeze the video at 2:37. See the vitrification? Evidence of high temperature. Not an angle grinder.

Look at 2:39 for evidence of a radius. Angle grinder wouldn't do this. Neither is it a fault in the rock.

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The burden is on you not me I'm afraid. Sorry.

Really? You're not even going to try and substantiate the 'enormous mountain of material' claim? It figures.

It would be easy to do, all you need is the cumulative length of all of the holes drilled multiplied by 1.5 to give you a 3:2 ratio. 100 meters of holes would give you 150 meters of copper tubing used (at the lowest known efficiency no less). Considering all of the copper (copper-arsenic-nickel bronze as well) ingots and artifacts found at Puma Punku how exactly is that impossible for a people who had the time, resources and desire to do so?

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Really? You're not even going to try and substantiate the 'enormous mountain of material' claim? It figures.

It would be easy to do, all you need is the cumulative length of all of the holes drilled multiplied by 1.5 to give you a 3:2 ratio. 100 meters of holes would give you 150 meters of copper tubing used (at the lowest known efficiency no less). Considering all of the copper (copper-arsenic-nickel bronze as well) ingots and artifacts found at Puma Punku how exactly is that impossible?

Just a little busy at the moment with other lines of enquiry.

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Really? You're not even going to try and substantiate the 'enormous mountain of material' claim? It figures.

It would be easy to do, all you need is the cumulative length of all of the holes drilled multiplied by 1.5 to give you a 3:2 ratio. 100 meters of holes would give you 150 meters of copper tubing used (at the lowest known efficiency no less). Considering all of the copper (copper-arsenic-nickel bronze as well) ingots and artifacts found at Puma Punku how exactly is that impossible for a people who had the time, resources and desire to do so?

If you factor in that copper was used to saw the blocks (wire) as WoH indicated earlier today then the amount of copper would be horrendous.

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If you factor in that copper was used to saw the blocks (wire) as WoH indicated earlier today then the amount of copper would be horrendous.

I'm not sure of the copper wire saw method however even copper wire can be strengthened by braiding or twisting it.

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The first stone shown and we are told that Engineer Dan has found a perfectly straight line obviously cut by a machine or saw and has a gap that is even throughout.

In reality the gap is not the same across the top and definitely less than the top part of the gap on the right side. That top part on the side is wider than any other part of the gap. To me it looks like a natural fracture line in the rock, similar to many I have seen in my life.

It looks consistent to me. Very difficult to be sure without taking measurements. Miniscule difference in gap is in no way proof that cutting tool wasn't used. Erosion, particle ingress could account for the difference.

That the cut is totally and exactly in line with the block surface is far too much of a coincidence.

Prove it by finding a similar example. The cut is far too deep and level anyway.

We are then told that those stones don't belong there that they are not their original position, that they were made for a specific purpose and that somehow it shows that it's not that it was unfinished but that it exploded/blew apart.

If it did blow apart, there would be cracks,breakage, pulverization and chemical or thermal evidence on the stones that you would find with an explosion, but such does not exist.

An earthquake would surely have been more realistic. Between 1:57 and 2:20 on the video we see numerous examples of broken blocks. Watch it again if you don't believe me. How can you tell there is no chemical or thermal evidence from the video?

There is also the comparison between the two different types of stone work and the comment that there was no way that the same people (Incas) that created the smaller stone work created the larger stones.

Kentucky stone wall mid 1800's

White house 1846

From this we can infer, using the same logic, that there is no way that the same people (Americans) that created the stone wall could have built the White House.

Terrible reasoning. Think about in terms of the Inca. They take the trouble (supposedly) to drag hundred tonne blocks to the site perfectly finished only to stand them on rubble and plug the gaps with boulders and adobe? What a ridiculous assertion. No wonder archaeology has got itself into such a hole.

Talk about believing anything. This is the worst example I have ever heard.

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Does dioubting whether ETs may have assisted the Ancients construct a number of enormous buildings, but then buggered off, necessarily equate to having faith that no beings in the universe have gotten good at interstellar travel? If they have been to this planet and assisted the Ancients in that way, why did they then bugger off? Or did they all kill each other off in wars?

There's more than one reason why they might not still be in direct contact with humans if they were in the past. One is that they've moved on to other projects and haven't been back around here. Another is that they deliberately keep contact on the dl even though they're still having influence today. Why would they do that? Again it could be for a number of reasons, but one thing we can count on is that they want us to develop to some extent without knowing for sure that they have had influence. Again why? One reason could be just to study us and see what we'll do under certain conditions. After they let people know they exist they can't really go back and make them unlearn, so anything they're going to do while we're in the position we're in they need to do, because it will change immediately if and when it becomes common knowledge that they exist. Were you unaware of that? That's only true to whatever extent though. If they were here in the past and people were aware of it, and wrote about it, and did carvings about, and learned from them, etc... and then they quit making themselves publically known for the most part long before humans developed photography and fast communications things would be as they are and in general people would disbelieve that they had ever been here, whether they had been or not.

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"Since I've never heard"....

Well, read these posts of mine:

http://www.unexplain...3

It's the first I've heard of it, but there do seem to be a number of examples of birds playing around with fire. You said you're into corvids. Do you have any as pets? I've got some finches and have been thinking of getting a bird that would be an actual "pet", but don't like parrot type birds. I've been thinking maybe some sort of black bird.

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nopeda, on 24 December 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

Yet though they can't give us anything to even pretend along with, they often act like they expect a person to completely change his pov and put faith in the one possibility that xts have never had anything to do with this planet. That even though people who were associated with the things in question sometimes left messages that they did.

after my xmas lunch and booze up, I will be back for you nopeda.. wasnt you the one who saw stuff in martian rocks?

That wasn't me. I saw the helicopter in photos from Abydos though. I'm pretty impressed with some crop circles so far too. Do you know of any examples of humans showing how they make some of the more complicated ones, if xts aren't having anything to do with it?

People told me a number of things about the Abydos helicopter and the other things that appear to depict air vehicles. They've said:

1. they don't look like air vehicles.

2. they were carved over.

3. they were plastered over then carved over.

4. they were plastered over, carved over and some of the plaster fell out.

5. they were plastered over, carved over and all of the plaster fell out.

Which is your favorite? Well, there is another option which is that they were carved to look as they do, which is what appears to be be case :lol: but no one ever suggested what seems most likely. IF they were plastered over and carved over etc and plaster just happened to fall out in a way that super coincidentally made them look like a group of different types of air vehicles that would be truly incredible, but it doesn't appear that that's what happened and it seems as unlikely as the possibility the xts came around this planet in the past imo.

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