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UN Resolut Calls for Israel to Disclose Nukes

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Though the Israeli nuclear weapons arsenal is widely known to exist, neither the nation's government or its key ally, the U.S., will publicly acknowledge the program.

This refusal has long helped Israel avoid acknowledging the hypocrisy of its repeated threats against Iran for its nascent nuclear technology program.

Israel refuses to confirm or deny it has nuclear bombs though it is widely believed to have a nuclear arsenal. It has refused to join the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, or NPT, along with three nuclear weapon states — India, Pakistan and North Korea.

http://www.commondre...ne/2012/12/04-0

How can you criticize other countries for not doing what you refuse to do??

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Though the Israeli nuclear weapons arsenal is widely known to exist, neither the nation's government or its key ally, the U.S., will publicly acknowledge the program.

This refusal has long helped Israel avoid acknowledging the hypocrisy of its repeated threats against Iran for its nascent nuclear technology program.

Israel refuses to confirm or deny it has nuclear bombs though it is widely believed to have a nuclear arsenal. It has refused to join the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, or NPT, along with three nuclear weapon states — India, Pakistan and North Korea.

http://www.commondre...ne/2012/12/04-0

How can you criticize other countries for not doing what you refuse to do??

Yeah. Astonishing isn't it?

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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Poor Israeli government will have to show their cards now.

You know what I can't stand, the fact Obama comes out with all this "disarming nukes" BS and then votes no against this. Someone showing their true agenda?

Iran voting for a nuclear free middle east is another kick in the teeth for Israel and the US. Not sure how long their bullying will last in the middle East now.

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All animals are fair, just some are more fair then others. Oh Orwell, it's like you knew politics or something!

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I think Iran and Israel should allow inspectors. I've long assumed Israel has nuclear weapons, just like I assume that is what Iran is really up to.

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From your article:

http://www.commondre...ne/2012/12/04-0

"The resolution passed with a 174-6 vote, and included 6 abstentions. Israel, the U.S., Canada, Marshall Islands, Micronesia and Palau were the "no" votes."

Israel had only 6 supporters out of 192 possibilities.

Perhaps the tide has finally turn, world opinion may convince the Israelis to play fair and by the rules.

What's pathetically sad is that both the USA and Canada were the only major nations to vote no.

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I am very glad this is comming out now..

I only hope that the MSM actually do their Effing job's properly and deal with the facts about what is and has really been going on in the Middle east.. Push the propaganda and distractions aside and what you are left with imho is a rogue state causing a lot of trouble in the world.

Resolutions adopted by the 193-member General Assembly are not legally binding but they do reflect world opinion and carry moral and political weight.

Israel refuses to confirm or deny it has nuclear bombs though it is widely believed to have a nuclear arsenal. It has refused to join the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, or NPT, along with three nuclear weapon states — India, Pakistan and North Korea.

If Israel agreed to dismantling its vast stockpiles of nuclear weapons and to a deal enforcing
– a deal
and Israel’s
have repeatedly proposed – the supposed threats Israel faces in the region would
.

But Israel refuses to give up its nuclear monopoly, insistent on maintaining its excuse to build up its military and distract from the Palestinian issue.

As former CIA Middle East analyst Paul Pillar
, “the Iran issue” provides a “distraction” from international “attention to the Palestinians’ lack of popular sovereignty.”

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The day Israel will give up it's nuke, it'll start it's count down till destruction.

Egypt, Syria (in whatever form it'll exist after it's civil war is over) and many other Islamic countries will try once again to destroy us.

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The day Israel will give up it's nuke, it'll start it's count down till destruction.

Egypt, Syria (in whatever form it'll exist after it's civil war is over) and many other Islamic countries will try once again to destroy us.

Gee no wonder, but in the future not many countries will care because Israel its bigger than everyone else

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The higher you fly the lower you fall, eventualy.

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Gee no wonder, but in the future not many countries will care because Israel its bigger than everyone else

eh?

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The day Israel will give up it's nuke, it'll start it's count down till destruction.

Egypt, Syria (in whatever form it'll exist after it's civil war is over) and many other Islamic countries will try once again to destroy us.

What a load of horse ****! LOL

That's the problem with Israel extremists. You lot think the whole world is against you, when in reality nobody cares, not out of nastiness, but because (this might shock you) Israel isn't the center of everyone's lives.

Jewish extremists are so up themselves, they actually believe they are the "chosen" and that everyone knows it. lol

Why are you so paranoid?! lol You really think the US would let that happen. You really think the world would stand by and watch a country get torn apart? lol

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That's the problem with Israel extremists. You lot think the whole world is against you, when in reality nobody cares, not out of nastiness, but because (this might shock you) Israel isn't the center of everyone's lives.

Oh really? this is why the EU head of states just fell off their chairs the moment after our government decided to build 3000 houses near our capital city? Oh wait, you don't even accept the fact it's out capital city.

Believe me, Israelis would love nothing but for the conflict to be judged proportionally to it's scope. It seems everything is ok in the world, and so Israel is judged by morals no other country is expected to hold.

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Actually I believe that Israel never signed the non-proliferation treaty (Iran did) so are under obligation to disclose nothing, Iran signed and therefore is.

Don't yell at me just kill the lawyers.

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Oh really? this is why the EU head of states just fell off their chairs the moment after our government decided to build 3000 houses near our capital city? Oh wait, you don't even accept the fact it's out capital city.

Believe me, Israelis would love nothing but for the conflict to be judged proportionally to it's scope. It seems everything is ok in the world, and so Israel is judged by morals no other country is expected to hold.

Maybe because the new settlements was nothing but a massive hissy fit thrown by Israel who was butthurt over the Palestinian UN vote.

The Israelis might want to end the conflict but based on their actions the Israeli government doesn't give a damn about the peace process. And yes Israel does get an oddly large amount of crap thrown their way but some of it is real problems that Israel doesn't seem to want to deal with.

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Maybe because the new settlements was nothing but a massive hissy fit thrown by Israel who was butthurt over the Palestinian UN vote.

Tomorrow a bunch of French people will go to the UN and will ask to be accepted as an observer state. 138 states for in favour. Only 9 against. How will the Canadian government react?

doesn't give a damn about the peace process.

And the one-sided move by the Palestinians doesn't advance peace as well. If anything, this makes peace fly further away.

real problems that Israel doesn't seem to want to deal with.

Indeed. Show me any other country in the world where it's citizens cannot agree on it's boundaries for almost 70 years now. If we cannot do it, we cannot expect the world to be holier than the pope.

IMO, my government should annex Judea and Samaria, and give full citizenship (in a very long process, perhaps only to newly born Palestinians after the annexation) to all the inhabitants of the annexed territories. The Gaza Strip is now a Somalia-like land, and with the same party in power (Muslim Brotherhood) as in Egypt, should be pushed away to the hands of the Egyptians (ie we should stop providing electricity to them, stop allowing Israeli currency be the official currency, etc.).

Currently, 62% of the West Bank (Judea and Samaria) and some 2% of the Palestinians (about 50,000) in what is called Area C, are under direct Israeli rule. There, Jews are a majority (87%). The PA, in it's 20 years of governance, have proved anything good for both Israel and the Palestinians themselves. They govern 98% of the Palestinians. They teach them hatred, they steal money from their people, and the failed to dismantle the refugee camps. They keep feeding their people with delusions of millions of refugees flooding Israeli cities.

On the other hand, the only Arab people we seem to have peace with for the past 64 years, are Israeli Palestinians, now number some 1.5 million. By that logic, Israel should solve the conflict by annexing all of the West Bank, ridding the PA, dismantling the refugee camps, and offering them Israeli passports.

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That's the problem with Israel extremists. You lot think the whole world is against you,

For some 3500 years, that has been the case. Israeli extremists have nothing to do with it.

when in reality nobody cares, not out of nastiness,

The history of the world would seem to reject your premise.

but because (this might shock you) Israel isn't the center of everyone's lives.

You’re just now coming to that realization?

Jewish extremists are so up themselves, they actually believe they are the "chosen" and that everyone knows it. lol

I don’t know who knows it or not, but Israel are the chosen people. Is that suppose to give them such special treatment? They didn’t ask for it.

Why are you so paranoid?! lol

Maybe because of the title of the OP? Maybe because of action’s like Hitler’s “Final Solution”? Because of words like Nasser saying he would kick the Jew back into the sea? Or the words of Imanutjob to wipe Israel off the map? I think they are rightfully paranoid. Good thing nobody cares.

You really think the US would let that happen. You really think the world would stand by and watch a country get torn apart? lol

The world is going crazy as we approach the Winter Solstice. Things are building to a perfect storm. The world may not come to an end but change is coming. For now, it appears that the wrong side is winning for the moment. But rationality and sanity are flying out the window as fast as it can.

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It's a UN version of tit for tat. They passed a resolution against Israel. REALLY? That's never happened before..... Israel has enemies on their borders willing to eliminate them for one reason, primarily. It's because Israel has tried for 65 years to live as a respected, democratic State in the M.E. They have shown so much restraint compared to their enemies that the world has been lulled into thinking that they HAVE to. If the Palestinians, or any of the other Arab neighbors had a military the likes of Israel's there would long ago have been a cleansing of the area from the river to the sea. Nasser said as much in '67 and the people of the entire region danced in the street for days.

Israel is not required to do anything as a result of this newest of resolutions. The world needs to tread carefully here though. Sanctions? Sure, they're expected. But when you start actively trying to take away Israel's main defense you are apt to see them become less worried about respectability and more concerned with survival. Is everyone so foolish that they don't realize the danger in this for the whole world?

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Israel will never sign and join.. they do what they want.. they have the USA and we all know the US let Israel do whatever it wants.. if it was any other country doing what Israel does, the US would of attacked it by now..

we need to impose sanctions on Israel.. see how they like it..

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The day Israel will give up it's nuke, it'll start it's count down till destruction.

Egypt, Syria (in whatever form it'll exist after it's civil war is over) and many other Islamic countries will try once again to destroy us.

Erikl do you think the Israelis could ever become so sick of war that they would actually attempt to disarm for peace? The Kadima crowd remind me of Obama's group of thugs here in DC - totally out of touch with reality and just making it up as they go along. Scary.....

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Israel will never sign and join.. they do what they want.. they have the USA and we all know the US let Israel do whatever it wants.. if it was any other country doing what Israel does, the US would of attacked it by now..

we need to impose sanctions on Israel.. see how they like it..

I think you will have your wish soon enough. The world seems to be headed into full stupid mode these days. Be careful what you wish for though - it doesn't always work out as you planned.
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The day Israel will give up it's nuke, it'll start it's count down till destruction.

Egypt, Syria (in whatever form it'll exist after it's civil war is over) and many other Islamic countries will try once again to destroy us.

This is the way of thinking that will destroy Israel and it's people imo.

Your talk of destruction only serves to bring it on..

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From your article:

http://www.commondre...ne/2012/12/04-0

"The resolution passed with a 174-6 vote, and included 6 abstentions. Israel, the U.S., Canada, Marshall Islands, Micronesia and Palau were the "no" votes."

Israel had only 6 supporters out of 192 possibilities.

Perhaps the tide has finally turn, world opinion may convince the Israelis to play fair and by the rules.

What's pathetically sad is that both the USA and Canada were the only major nations to vote no.

My math might be a bit rusty.. actually it probably is, but doesn't this suggest that only 4% of the UN General assemby (WORLD) supported Israels stance on this?

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Erikl do you think the Israelis could ever become so sick of war that they would actually attempt to disarm for peace? The Kadima crowd remind me of Obama's group of thugs here in DC - totally out of touch with reality and just making it up as they go along. Scary.....

The problem is everyone seem to think that both sides equally want peace. It is true, but the terms are completely different. For the Arabs, ideal peace is without Israel in the Middle East. For the Israelis, the ideal peace would be no war, period, regardless with who. Many in the West seem to overlook this fact. This is why the "moderate" PA is insisting on the "right of return" of millions of Muslim Palestinians into Israel, not a Palestinian state alone. This is why the Palestinian militants will target civilians just as they'll target military targets - for them, the ideal peace is not a Palestine side by side Israel, but no Israel at all.

Right now, after decades of war, the Arabs came to term with the fact that Israel is a strong country. They see the Chinese and American head of states visit Israel. They see Israeli economy, as strong as many western european states. They see Israeli military might. They know Israel probably has a nuclear arsenal, which means Israel cannot currently be destroyed. But, they did not come to term with the right of Israel to exist. Some of them, like Hamas and Hezbollah, still believe Israel can be military defeated. Any change in the Israeli-Arab conflict must be judged according to these facts. This is why whenever Israel is pressurized, whenever Israel gives up land for peace, the extremists on the Arab side get stronger. After the disengagement plan, when Israel unilaterally evacuated Gaza in 2005, Hamas won the elections in 2006. This is why, after Israel unilaterally pulled out of Lebanon in 2000, Hezbollah became the most powerful military force in Lebanon, and Arafat gave up on negotiations and started the Second Intifada.

If the EU and the US want to see peace, they need to obviously stand with Israel, where a Palestinian state is already a consensus, and show the Arab states that Israel is accepted as a normal, equal member among nations.

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we need to impose sanctions on Israel.. see how they like it..

Yes... :tu:

Enough with the support for either side, and the bickering..

I think it is time for the world to Impose Peace on both sides of this conflict because after 65 years of fighting it has become abundantly clear to the world that they cannot agree on peace terms themselves..

Neither side can agree on peace..

I think it is time for the UN/World to get involved and impose that which they clearly come to terms with themselves..

And I think it's a damn good thing that the UN GA is starting to get involved and starting to finally start pointing the finger back at Israel..

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