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Why are humans "greedy"?

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Deliberately vague. Deliberately open. I dont want to say any more, including my own train of thought, for fear of directing peoples' thoughts, but I'd be interested in any opinions, spiritual or physical, on this.

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Because they can be! If the stuff(whatever it is), is available, why not have as much as you want? Why stop just for the sake of stopping?

Is it a basic instinct to stockpile for leaner times?

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greedy is the 'moral' term for survival of the fittest.

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Because it's mine!

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Because we only really care for ourselves. Us, no one else.

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Copernicus came to me in a dream and told me I was the center of the universe, so I believed him.. It's all about me me me

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Copernicus came to me in a dream and told me I was the center of the universe, so I believed him.. It's all about me me me

It can't be all about you because it is MINE!!!

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"Greedy" is a subjective judgement which not only depends on who you ask, but is based on abstract ideals of right and wrong which are meaninggless to nature. Why then should it be assumed to be something inherent or natural to the human condition?

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Greed isn't a human trait.

Greed comes from Money & Value and is a symptom of our system of monetary control over the people..

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Greed isn't a human trait.

Greed comes from Money & Value and is a symptom of our system of monetary control over the people..

you've never seen the greedy monkeys at the zoo? lol

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Greed isn't a human trait.

Greed comes from Money & Value and is a symptom of our system of monetary control over the people..

In other words, greed occurs because system affords money/value to certain people/things over others unjustly, disproportionately? What's the only just and proper way to distribute it equitably? I have the answer of course, nobody else does ... At least I did, until I decided it was unfair for me to have it, while everyone else is forced to do wtihout, so I decided to forget it, so I can be first among equal .. .ly ignorant. ( just kidding )

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you've never seen the greedy monkeys at the zoo? lol

True that..

But monkeys aren't human..

Put it this way. If there was no Money.. No form of currency.. No banks.. Would there be Greed?

Human society would quickly learn that it's in there best interests to serve each other instead of themselves..

The Monkey analogy is good though.. Nothing more dangerous than a hungry neighbour.. so feed him.

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True that..

But monkeys aren't human..

Put it this way. If there was no Money.. No form of currency.. No banks.. Would there be Greed?

Human society would quickly learn that it's in there best interests to serve each other instead of themselves..

The Monkey analogy is good though.. Nothing more dangerous than a hungry neighbour.. so feed him.

i'm a firm advocate of feed your neighbor. charity begins right next door - not in the pockets of some obscure organization.

about the monkeys...er i mean humans... without a monetary system

it would be something. as humans we have personalities and egos to feed. that requires being more being better. so you gather up and horde the stuff that makes you better in that society.

in ours, it's money and material possessions. i can't imagine how a society could function without some sort of trade system. as long as there is a trading system there will be greed.

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It can't be all about you because it is MINE!!!

Take your head out of the clouds, those happen to be mine lol

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i'm a firm advocate of feed your neighbor. charity begins right next door - not in the pockets of some obscure organization.

about the monkeys...er i mean humans... without a monetary system

it would be something. as humans we have personalities and egos to feed. that requires being more being better. so you gather up and horde the stuff that makes you better in that society.

in ours, it's money and material possessions. i can't imagine how a society could function without some sort of trade system. as long as there is a trading system there will be greed.

I think that's spot on.

I also think we have a lot to learn from the Amazon tribes... except canibalism.. :unsure2:

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Take your head out of the clouds, those happen to be mine lol

I propose a race around the world to settle this! We shall meet at noon tomorrow, in London Square.The Queen herself shall see us off.

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I think that's spot on.

I also think we have a lot to learn from the Amazon tribes... except canibalism.. :unsure2:

i learned you don't eat meat that eats meat. so i guess i could eat a vegetarian. yes? no?

i read a book called Mutant Message Down Under that fascinated me. in the story a woman goes on a four month walkabout in the australian desert with a mysterious aboriginese tribe. they were the exact society i could see myself thriving in. i'd even eat the grubs.

have you read it?

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I propose a race around the world to settle this! We shall meet at noon tomorrow, in London Square.The Queen herself shall see us off.

pics or it didn't happen you guys

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pics or it didn't happen you guys

Oh... there will be pics, all right. But they will be MINE! :angry:

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i think it's a form of selfishness ? .. too obvious? Not knowing any better i always like to blame ego for most of our faults . Ego seems like a fearful thing to me somehow.. maybe it's just MINE! that feels that way? lol

greed |grēd|

noun

intense and selfish desire for something, esp. wealth, power, or food. . . ( food? .. ok guesso )

ORIGIN late 16th cent.: back-formation from greedy.

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i learned you don't eat meat that eats meat. so i guess i could eat a vegetarian. yes? no?

i read a book called Mutant Message Down Under that fascinated me. in the story a woman goes on a four month walkabout in the australian desert with a mysterious aboriginese tribe. they were the exact society i could see myself thriving in. i'd even eat the grubs.

have you read it?

I suppose you could eat a Vegan? I guess they'd taste like chicken.. :lol:

*shudders* I couldn't eat the grubs, I've got some Huhu Bugs very similar to whitchity grubs in the forest.. I haven't read that book either, sounds interesting..

There is something very interesting to learn from people who have no form of currency.. They trade openly and fairly because there is no incentive to have more than their neighbours, and no incentive to be wealthier than their fellow man.. I mean.. Imagine that! Trading fairly without making a profit!! Wall street would crumble!! Sure these people might live in a bracken hut with a dirt floor and they cook their food with dried dung... But they are happier living like that than a lot of us will ever be.. And there is no reason why these people or us, couldn't live the same way in modern towns or cities and drop the greed the monetary system has created.

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We are born with basic needs for food, shelter, and love. These give us a sense of security.

Our capitalist societies play upon that to "condition" us to be consumers. That's our "job" in the economy. Work to earn money, buy "stuff", use it, throw it away, then repeat.

Television bombards us with "conditioning" to the point that exuberance in today's society is sickening to the point of being pornographic. Consumption beyond definition. Bigger cars, bigger homes, bigger boats, designer clothes. Christmas has been corrupted to the point where it is now disgusting. Some large retailers do 25% of their annual business in the 6 weeks before Christmas...then Boxing Day the programmed masses are back out spending more money on big sales.

The rich and famous are worshipped by the media, bombarding us with their lavish images and driving the "wanna be like them" mentality deep into our subconscious.

For many people, their favorite pastime is "shopping".

We're not born greedy, Big Brother conditions us to be so in order to drive the big wheel called the economy.

Consumers, do yourselves a favor...start thinking for yourselves and not the corporate world.

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Humans are "greedy" because they want to live.

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We are born with basic needs for food, shelter, and love. These give us a sense of security.

Our capitalist societies play upon that to "condition" us to be consumers. That's our "job" in the economy. Work to earn money, buy "stuff", use it, throw it away, then repeat.

Television bombards us with "conditioning" to the point that exuberance in today's society is sickening to the point of being pornographic. Consumption beyond definition. Bigger cars, bigger homes, bigger boats, designer clothes. Christmas has been corrupted to the point where it is now disgusting. Some large retailers do 25% of their annual business in the 6 weeks before Christmas...then Boxing Day the programmed masses are back out spending more money on big sales.

The rich and famous are worshipped by the media, bombarding us with their lavish images and driving the "wanna be like them" mentality deep into our subconscious.

For many people, their favorite pastime is "shopping".

We're not born greedy, Big Brother conditions us to be so in order to drive the big wheel called the economy.

Consumers, do yourselves a favor...start thinking for yourselves and not the corporate world.

Seriously? We are not born greedy? Did you not cry when what you wanted wasn't already there?

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Seriously? We are not born greedy? Did you not cry when what you wanted wasn't already there?

there is a difference between need & greed.

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