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It's not much different from Labour MPs childishly pulling faces, mocking and laughing at Conservative MP for Blackpool Paul Maynard during PMQs because he has cerebral palsy.

Thats just charming.

They moan at aborting them while being quite prepared to point the finger and mock them. Lets not forgot the nazis were socialists. Its easy to see where the mentality comes from.

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. They're already painted as Nazis by many.

Not by many. Only by idiots.

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That would be the Guardian & to a lesser extent the BBC. As I have said, that is a tried & tested tactic used against anybody right of centre.

yes damn those left wing people for not wanting damn females to not have there substandard babys aborted who give them the vote anyway.damn i love the righty **** everyone who isnt us attituted thats the way to build a good society.

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yes damn those left wing people for not wanting damn females to not have there substandard babys aborted who give them the vote anyway.damn i love the righty **** everyone who isnt us attituted thats the way to build a good society.

Actually, you've perfectly described the left wing formula for running the country, but they literally **** everybody over & leave somebody else to pick up the pieces.

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yes damn those left wing people for not wanting damn females to not have there substandard babys aborted who give them the vote anyway.damn i love the righty **** everyone who isnt us attituted thats the way to build a good society.

That's not the point, the point is they make out UKIP suggested they wanted to abort downs syndrome babies when that isn't the case.

But I do agree with you to a certain extent - damn those left wing people

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our resident toryboy at work put it perfectly the other day .he said i vote for anything that is good for me **** anyone else .that summs up the rightwing attitude .

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our resident toryboy at work put it perfectly the other day .he said i vote for anything that is good for me **** anyone else .that summs up the rightwing attitude .

But at the very least he's honest.

All the b****ing & moaning about tory policy that Labour did whilst in opposition & how many of those taxes & policies that they b****ed about did the last labour government repeal or drop in their 13 years in power? ....answer...none. What they actually did was add more & all the time convincing the gullible that they were the party of 'the working man' you'd have to either be a complete muppet or 15 years of age not to realize that 13 years of a Labour government was THE worst thing that happened to this country. (and I haven't even mentioned the hundreds of death British soldiers & thousands of dead Afgans that they are responsible for).

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But at the very least he's honest.

All the b****ing & moaning about tory policy that Labour did whilst in opposition & how many of those taxes & policies that they b****ed about did the last labour government repeal or drop in their 13 years in power? ....answer...none. What they actually did was add more & all the time convincing the gullible that they were the party of 'the working man' you'd have to either be a complete muppet or 15 years of age not to realize that 13 years of a Labour government was THE worst thing that happened to this country. (and I haven't even mentioned the hundreds of death British soldiers & thousands of dead Afgans that they are responsible for).

i in no way shape or form support the labour party .that said given a choice between supporting a party that thinks that peasents should work for nothing but the bread on there table and respect there supposed betters (tory mentality) or a party that pretands to hate that opinion but supports it anyway i would take the lie any day.

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wasnt the nazi party a single issue party that rallied the people behind a leader promising a return to greatness of a once proud nation without the inteference of other nations .

ukip are a right wing extremist party of racists.

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wasnt the nazi party a single issue party that rallied the people behind a leader promising a return to greatness of a once proud nation without the inteference of other nations .

ukip are a right wing extremist party of racists.

Change the word 'nazi' for 'communist' & the sentence still works perfectly well.

I can understand why you feel that way about UKIP. Anybody who displays a hint of patriotism or national pride (unless they're Scottish of course) is 'ipso facto' a rascist & nazi in the eyes of the left wing. (remember Gordon Brown & biggotgate?)

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Change the word 'nazi' for 'communist' & the sentence still works perfectly well.

I can understand why you feel that way about UKIP. Anybody who displays a hint of patriotism or national pride (unless they're Scottish of course) is 'ipso facto' a rascist & nazi in the eyes of the left wing. (remember Gordon Brown & biggotgate?)

you and your ilk are really blinded by the flag waving stupidity that is our eitist society .any working person who supports our current politics is a ******* idiot .

it is all set up to suppoort the likes of boris and dave who in there university days thought it was funny to burn money in front of homeless people for a giggle .

are these really the people you want running your country ?

if it is then you are a set of utter d****

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you and your ilk are really blinded by the flag waving stupidity that is our eitist society .any working person who supports our current politics is a ******* idiot .

it is all set up to suppoort the likes of boris and dave who in there university days thought it was funny to burn money in front of homeless people for a giggle .

are these really the people you want running your country ?

if it is then you are a set of utter d****

and yet this from someone who has the flag of communism displayed as their avatar. communism the form of government that works so well, from the former soviet Union to modern day China and North Korea. - i know see why you are in favour of communism as a form of government. The hammer and sickle a symbol meant to represent workers and the poor. but just look at the treatment of those workers and poor under the communist system you evidently like.

Back to the UK, - why wouldn't workers support the Tory Government? the facts are since they come to office they've reduced the burden on the state by a) reducing civil servants, public sector workers by 350,000 (the unprofitable part of the economy) the labour party said the private sector would not create jobs and yet the reality is - they have - we've seen the private sector employment increase (the profitable side of the economy) by 900,000 jobs - The number of people in work in the UK hit a all time high of 29.6 million – the most ever. over half a million jobs in just 12 months. unemployment is going down.

it might be worth reminding yourself why we face cuts in the first place, the Labour party and their inept running of the public finances over two terms of office. so anyone who lost their job in the recession can only blame one political party and that is the so called party of the working man - New Labour.

Coalition Government, lead by the Tory party. unemployment down, employment at all time high, a reduction in state benefit payments. economy out of recession, the country retains its credit rating at triple AAA, meaning low government borrowing interest rates.

or maybe we revert back to the Labour parties running of the economy. yes the party for the working man who put 3 million workers on the dole, put 2 million on long term benefits. after two terms in office left the country with the biggest financial deficit since the second world war. had a policy of mass immigration to change the face of Britain just to rub the noses of the torys in it. YES lets go back to the LABOUR PARTY.

The Tory Party are not perfect, but who else would you vote for LABOUR, only a fool would vote for them, unless they've been in a coma the last 11 years. or those who vote labour no matter what because their father always voted labour, back in the 30's

I'd like to know who you voted for in the last general election and why.

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you and your ilk are really blinded by the flag waving stupidity that is our eitist society .any working person who supports our current politics is a ******* idiot .

it is all set up to suppoort the likes of boris and dave who in there university days thought it was funny to burn money in front of homeless people for a giggle .

are these really the people you want running your country ?

if it is then you are a set of utter d****

Well seeing as both Cameron and Boris were voted in it seems like there are an awful lot of d**** out there. But then that's democracy for you. You do like democracy, don't you?
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. Anybody who displays a hint of patriotism or national pride (unless they're Scottish of course)

Or Welsh or Irish.

I have found it very strange for a long time that in Britain you can be Scottish and support the SNP; Welsh and support Plaid Cymru; or Irish and support Sinn Fein - in fact, the Scots, Welsh and Irish are often positively encouraged to support these parties - yet if you are English and you support the English Democrats, or if you support UKIP, you are instantly derided, by the Left, a "racist" and a "bigot" who supports a "Far Right party". I still cannot understand why this is the case. Why do the Left see is as okay for someone to support SNP, Plaid Cymru or Sinn Fein but not UKIP?

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you and your ilk are really blinded by the flag waving stupidity that is our eitist society

What about you, with the flag of the USSR as your avatar?

Hypocrite.

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yes ukip showing there true colours with this one.

Support for the UK Independence Party (Ukip) has reached a new high of 15 per cent, up from 4.5 per cent last year, according to a new poll.

The anti-EU, right-wing populist party's rating has risen by another percentage point in the past fortnight as its fortunes continue to rise, the Opinium survey for The Observer found.

The party believes in the right of the people of the UK to govern themselves, 'rather than be governed by unelected bureaucrats in Brussels.'

Its support is almost double that for the Liberal Democrats, languishing in the same poll on 8 per cent.

Read more: http://www.dailymail...l#ixzz2GYkUkBQo

And with this news, and with the Left inevitably running scared, I'm going to be awaiting the predictable demonising of UKIP from The Guardian, the BBC and the other usual suspects, just as we've already seen.

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and yet this from someone who has the flag of communism displayed as their avatar. communism the form of government that works so well, from the former soviet Union to modern day China and North Korea. - i know see why you are in favour of communism as a form of government. The hammer and sickle a symbol meant to represent workers and the poor. but just look at the treatment of those workers and poor under the communist system you evidently like.

Back to the UK, - why wouldn't workers support the Tory Government? the facts are since they come to office they've reduced the burden on the state by a) reducing civil servants, public sector workers by 350,000 (the unprofitable part of the economy) the labour party said the private sector would not create jobs and yet the reality is - they have - we've seen the private sector employment increase (the profitable side of the economy) by 900,000 jobs - The number of people in work in the UK hit a all time high of 29.6 million – the most ever. over half a million jobs in just 12 months. unemployment is going down.

it might be worth reminding yourself why we face cuts in the first place, the Labour party and their inept running of the public finances over two terms of office. so anyone who lost their job in the recession can only blame one political party and that is the so called party of the working man - New Labour.

Coalition Government, lead by the Tory party. unemployment down, employment at all time high, a reduction in state benefit payments. economy out of recession, the country retains its credit rating at triple AAA, meaning low government borrowing interest rates.

or maybe we revert back to the Labour parties running of the economy. yes the party for the working man who put 3 million workers on the dole, put 2 million on long term benefits. after two terms in office left the country with the biggest financial deficit since the second world war. had a policy of mass immigration to change the face of Britain just to rub the noses of the torys in it. YES lets go back to the LABOUR PARTY.

The Tory Party are not perfect, but who else would you vote for LABOUR, only a fool would vote for them, unless they've been in a coma the last 11 years. or those who vote labour no matter what because their father always voted labour, back in the 30's

I'd like to know who you voted for in the last general election and why.

most of these jobs that have been created are low hours low wage jobs which have to be suplimented by the tax payer just so the people doing them can survive.

the tax coffers havent increased a jot even though the productive side of the economy has gone up its all smoke and mirrors .

so we have the situation where politicians are saying they are reducing national dept by sacking civil servents yet they are happy to pay private sector employees with tax payers money .

can you not see this ?

Support for the UK Independence Party (Ukip) has reached a new high of 15 per cent, up from 4.5 per cent last year, according to a new poll.

The anti-EU, right-wing populist party's rating has risen by another percentage point in the past fortnight as its fortunes continue to rise, the Opinium survey for The Observer found.

The party believes in the right of the people of the UK to govern themselves, 'rather than be governed by unelected bureaucrats in Brussels.'

Its support is almost double that for the Liberal Democrats, languishing in the same poll on 8 per cent.

Read more: http://www.dailymail...l#ixzz2GYkUkBQo

And with this news, and with the Left inevitably running scared, I'm going to be awaiting the predictable demonising of UKIP from The Guardian, the BBC and the other usual suspects, just as we've already seen.

yes and the germans supported hitler right up until the point there country burned.

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What about you, with the flag of the USSR as your avatar?

Hypocrite.

lol as i said before i didnt support the ussr my avatar doesnt say everything about me .

do you support camp cartoon sailors ?

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Or Welsh or Irish.

I have found it very strange for a long time that in Britain you can be Scottish and support the SNP; Welsh and support Plaid Cymru; or Irish and support Sinn Fein - in fact, the Scots, Welsh and Irish are often positively encouraged to support these parties - yet if you are English and you support the English Democrats, or if you support UKIP, you are instantly derided, by the Left, a "racist" and a "bigot" who supports a "Far Right party". I still cannot understand why this is the case. Why do the Left see is as okay for someone to support SNP, Plaid Cymru or Sinn Fein but not UKIP?

because those partys in wales scotland ect want to remove themselves from influance of a load of eton educated ******s with no sense of reality .where as ukip are a set of racist scumbags with facist leanings.

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An old adage springs to mind.

The modern definition of a racist - someone winning an argument against a liberal.

It won't be long before the Left is shouting racist across the house of commons because UKIP want to close out borders against the millions of immigrants that come here every year to take advantage of our country

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most of these jobs that have been created are low hours low wage jobs which have to be suplimented by the tax payer just so the people doing them can survive.

the tax coffers havent increased a jot even though the productive side of the economy has gone up its all smoke and mirrors .

so we have the situation where politicians are saying they are reducing national dept by sacking civil servents yet they are happy to pay private sector employees with tax payers money .

can you not see this ?

i dont agree, but just for arguments sake. you cannot argue with job creation. no matter which way you spin it, its better to have a job than no job at all, even low paid or part time work. having a job gives you much more than just money. it gives you drive, determination, a structure to your life, gives you skills for life. and most important i feel it gives you pride and self-respect. i'd rather subsidise a worker through tax breaks or credits than subsidise the long term useless on £65 a week for doing naff all. -

in my view tax credits are a good thing. the social aspect of children seeing their parents going out to work,having that structure to their lives, watching mum and/or dad going to work earning money, earning the right to have that 46 inch LED TV, the right to have that annual holiday, having a car etc.. its all a social plus money cannot buy. plus the likelihood is these people who have taken a pay cut, or less working hours will better themselves - these people deserve the help with tax credits. because these people are more than likely within 12 months or so move into a better paid job, get that promotion and then be paying far more in taxes than they received while being entitled to tax credits.

You said you do not support the labour party. but it seems you rather agree with their strategy of making benefits a lifestyle choice for many. when they took office the governments benefit bill was £96 billion, over their two terms in office it had exploded to £160 Billion. to put that in perspective that is the same as the combined spending on the NHS, schools and universities. so think just for a minute, of the 29 million workers in the UK, and all that tax generated ITS DOES NOT EVEN COVER the out goings in benefit payments. Thank you Labour. Thank them for selling 60% of our gold reserves. Thank Labour raiding the Pension TAX pot to the tune of £100Billion. so they could continue with their social experiment.

thank labour for mass immigration - for two reasons - first and foremost to rub the Tories noses in it so they'd never be elected to office again, because its well known that immigrants tend to vote for the political party who was in office when they arrived - and secondly they wanted mass immigration for cheap labour, mainly eastern europe helping keep the wage bill down for your British worker. this mass immigration was passed off as a labour shortage in the low skilled sector a sector supposedly that British workers wouldn't do. - no because labour were happy to let them sign on benefits long term ( see the benefit bill increase) Labour yet again thinking they'd secure more voters i mean, if your long term useless and happy on benefits who are you going to vote for in a general election a government who leaves you on benefits to secure your vote or a government who will question your entitlement. the labour party and their social engineering have a lot to answer for.

The Labour party had ten years of BOOM. by the end we had nothing, a trillion pound plus deficit. its ******* staggering, and yet people will still vote labour. if people truly believed in bettering the country labour would never see the light of office again. and that goes for any political party. if they damage the country to the extent the labour party did then they too deserve never to form a government. but it seems people remain loyal to a particular party regardless.

I've stated before, from the first election i was eligible to vote in i voted for Labour, in the next general election i voted Labour again, but by midterm there was danger signs. the selling of the gold, the pension raid, and the fact their was a housing/financial bubble about to burst and cold hard reality that when the government looked in tax pot it was empty. so in the last election i voted Tory for the first time ever and if this lot mess up i'll be voting for someone else. i have no loyalty to a political party only to the Nation. and my vote goes to which ever party i feel will benefit the Nation as a whole.

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i dont agree, but just for arguments sake. you cannot argue with job creation. no matter which way you spin it, its better to have a job than no job at all, even low paid or part time work. having a job gives you much more than just money. it gives you drive, determination, a structure to your life, gives you skills for life. and most important i feel it gives you pride and self-respect. i'd rather subsidise a worker through tax breaks or credits than subsidise the long term useless on £65 a week for doing naff all. -

in my view tax credits are a good thing. the social aspect of children seeing their parents going out to work,having that structure to their lives, watching mum and/or dad going to work earning money, earning the right to have that 46 inch LED TV, the right to have that annual holiday, having a car etc.. its all a social plus money cannot buy. plus the likelihood is these people who have taken a pay cut, or less working hours will better themselves - these people deserve the help with tax credits. because these people are more than likely within 12 months or so move into a better paid job, get that promotion and then be paying far more in taxes than they received while being entitled to tax credits.

You said you do not support the labour party. but it seems you rather agree with their strategy of making benefits a lifestyle choice for many. when they took office the governments benefit bill was £96 billion, over their two terms in office it had exploded to £160 Billion. to put that in perspective that is the same as the combined spending on the NHS, schools and universities. so think just for a minute, of the 29 million workers in the UK, and all that tax generated ITS DOES NOT EVEN COVER the out goings in benefit payments. Thank you Labour. Thank them for selling 60% of our gold reserves. Thank Labour raiding the Pension TAX pot to the tune of £100Billion. so they could continue with their social experiment.

thank labour for mass immigration - for two reasons - first and foremost to rub the Tories noses in it so they'd never be elected to office again, because its well known that immigrants tend to vote for the political party who was in office when they arrived - and secondly they wanted mass immigration for cheap labour, mainly eastern europe helping keep the wage bill down for your British worker. this mass immigration was passed off as a labour shortage in the low skilled sector a sector supposedly that British workers wouldn't do. - no because labour were happy to let them sign on benefits long term ( see the benefit bill increase) Labour yet again thinking they'd secure more voters i mean, if your long term useless and happy on benefits who are you going to vote for in a general election a government who leaves you on benefits to secure your vote or a government who will question your entitlement. the labour party and their social engineering have a lot to answer for.

The Labour party had ten years of BOOM. by the end we had nothing, a trillion pound plus deficit. its ******* staggering, and yet people will still vote labour. if people truly believed in bettering the country labour would never see the light of office again. and that goes for any political party. if they damage the country to the extent the labour party did then they too deserve never to form a government. but it seems people remain loyal to a particular party regardless.

I've stated before, from the first election i was eligible to vote in i voted for Labour, in the next general election i voted Labour again, but by midterm there was danger signs. the selling of the gold, the pension raid, and the fact their was a housing/financial bubble about to burst and cold hard reality that when the government looked in tax pot it was empty. so in the last election i voted Tory for the first time ever and if this lot mess up i'll be voting for someone else. i have no loyalty to a political party only to the Nation. and my vote goes to which ever party i feel will benefit the Nation as a whole.

i really dont care if you agree the facts are people are going to work for nothing and then getting paid by the goverment to work in prvate sector jobs .what in your torie capatalist world is good and proper about that.people should have good working conditions and get paid a living wage for there labour .is this so wrong in your right wing tory boy doctrine.

after all the torie party was established to protect the gentry from peasents wanting to have there own property .you rightwing folks must get all excited when a house is repossesed from a poor person so a rich person can then rent it out for twice as much as the mortgage just so you can have a better vintage of brandy while the family evicted lives on the street .i hope you feel warm and fluffy .however these people will one day take it back and knobs like you will be at the top off the hit list.

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i dont agree, but just for arguments sake. you cannot argue with job creation. no matter which way you spin it, its better to have a job than no job at all, even low paid or part time work. having a job gives you much more than just money. it gives you drive, determination, a structure to your life, gives you skills for life. and most important i feel it gives you pride and self-respect. i'd rather subsidise a worker through tax breaks or credits than subsidise the long term useless on £65 a week for doing naff all. -

in my view tax credits are a good thing. the social aspect of children seeing their parents going out to work,having that structure to their lives, watching mum and/or dad going to work earning money, earning the right to have that 46 inch LED TV, the right to have that annual holiday, having a car etc.. its all a social plus money cannot buy. plus the likelihood is these people who have taken a pay cut, or less working hours will better themselves - these people deserve the help with tax credits. because these people are more than likely within 12 months or so move into a better paid job, get that promotion and then be paying far more in taxes than they received while being entitled to tax credits.

You said you do not support the labour party. but it seems you rather agree with their strategy of making benefits a lifestyle choice for many. when they took office the governments benefit bill was £96 billion, over their two terms in office it had exploded to £160 Billion. to put that in perspective that is the same as the combined spending on the NHS, schools and universities. so think just for a minute, of the 29 million workers in the UK, and all that tax generated ITS DOES NOT EVEN COVER the out goings in benefit payments. Thank you Labour. Thank them for selling 60% of our gold reserves. Thank Labour raiding the Pension TAX pot to the tune of £100Billion. so they could continue with their social experiment.

thank labour for mass immigration - for two reasons - first and foremost to rub the Tories noses in it so they'd never be elected to office again, because its well known that immigrants tend to vote for the political party who was in office when they arrived - and secondly they wanted mass immigration for cheap labour, mainly eastern europe helping keep the wage bill down for your British worker. this mass immigration was passed off as a labour shortage in the low skilled sector a sector supposedly that British workers wouldn't do. - no because labour were happy to let them sign on benefits long term ( see the benefit bill increase) Labour yet again thinking they'd secure more voters i mean, if your long term useless and happy on benefits who are you going to vote for in a general election a government who leaves you on benefits to secure your vote or a government who will question your entitlement. the labour party and their social engineering have a lot to answer for.

The Labour party had ten years of BOOM. by the end we had nothing, a trillion pound plus deficit. its ******* staggering, and yet people will still vote labour. if people truly believed in bettering the country labour would never see the light of office again. and that goes for any political party. if they damage the country to the extent the labour party did then they too deserve never to form a government. but it seems people remain loyal to a particular party regardless.

I've stated before, from the first election i was eligible to vote in i voted for Labour, in the next general election i voted Labour again, but by midterm there was danger signs. the selling of the gold, the pension raid, and the fact their was a housing/financial bubble about to burst and cold hard reality that when the government looked in tax pot it was empty. so in the last election i voted Tory for the first time ever and if this lot mess up i'll be voting for someone else. i have no loyalty to a political party only to the Nation. and my vote goes to which ever party i feel will benefit the Nation as a whole.

and now you would sell your soul to a one issue party who has members that think a women who is pregnant with a disabled child should be forced to abort it to save money.

to say its one idiot is stupid this is the kind of thinking that defines UKIP .they are an ultra right wing facist party to beleive otherwise is ******* stupid.

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i really dont care if you agree the facts are people are going to work for nothing and then getting paid by the goverment to work in prvate sector jobs .what in your torie capatalist world is good and proper about that.people should have good working conditions and get paid a living wage for there labour .is this so wrong in your right wing tory boy doctrine.

after all the torie party was established to protect the gentry from peasents wanting to have there own property .you rightwing folks must get all excited when a house is repossesed from a poor person so a rich person can then rent it out for twice as much as the mortgage just so you can have a better vintage of brandy while the family evicted lives on the street .i hope you feel warm and fluffy .however these people will one day take it back and knobs like you will be at the top off the hit list.

Did you go to drama school? because i've noticed you go off on a tangent with your replies.

People are not going to work for nothing, your being rather dramatic, you make it sound like slave labour or the old fashioned work houses. - protected by law workers will get paid a rate of pay set down in law. due to their personal circumstances they could be entitled to a tax break through tax credits etc..

IF we have small companies, up and down the land looking to recruit / expand but can only offer new employees the minimum wage rate of pay of £232 a week, 37.5 hours a week - what is so wrong with the government subsidising their rate of pay?. just look at the benefits to the economy and society as a whole. we have a company investing for the future, a company expanding, a company investing in a person, - then we have the employee in employment, learning new skills, earning a living wage, as a result they'll have all the bonuses that comes with being employed, the knock on effect, a rise in living standards, better lifestyle, more spending power, they are contributing to society, playing a active part in the countries economic output. - its a win win situation for both the employer, the employee and society - note that small businesses account for 80% of income and growth in the economy so its a massive influence. I remember a study which found for every one person employed in the PRIVATE sector it creates a further three jobs, compared with the Public sector.

As for working conditions, yet again set by law everyone who is employed, as the right under that law to be provided with a safe and clean working environment. if thats not the case contact your local HSE.

As for mortgages The Government has a scheme in place called M.R.S Mortgage Rescue Scheme. whereby they'll help with mortgage payments. safe you and your home from repossession in the process stopping families becoming homeless. a mate as benefited from this scheme.

the alternative to all of the above is long term unemployment which is good for nobody.

and now you would sell your soul to a one issue party who has members that think a women who is pregnant with a disabled child should be forced to abort it to save money.

to say its one idiot is stupid this is the kind of thinking that defines UKIP .they are an ultra right wing facist party to beleive otherwise is ******* stupid.

We've been over this already. UKIP do not have a policy or agree with the statement made. and for you to keep repeating it does your argument no favours.

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i really dont care if you agree the facts are people are going to work for nothing and then getting paid by the goverment to work in prvate sector jobs .what in your torie capatalist world is good and proper about that.people should have good working conditions and get paid a living wage for there labour .is this so wrong in your right wing tory boy doctrine.

after all the torie party was established to protect the gentry from peasents wanting to have there own property .you rightwing folks must get all excited when a house is repossesed from a poor person so a rich person can then rent it out for twice as much as the mortgage just so you can have a better vintage of brandy while the family evicted lives on the street .i hope you feel warm and fluffy .however these people will one day take it back and knobs like you will be at the top off the hit list.

Remind you of anyone? :-

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One day comrades.....

p.s. I think you are flogging a dead horse with this one steve. There are those us who believe in self reliance & hard work and there those that believe the 'state' (i.e. taxpayer) should look after you from cradle to grave....I think he belongs to the latter.

Edited by itsnotoutthere
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