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Vaccine Hoax is Over

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Is there a link to a copy of the documents?

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You know its just going to be a blog of screaming-conspiracy-nut-vitriol when it mentions formaldehyde as one of the "evil ingredients" in the second paragraph. Seriously. Do some proper research.

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Freedom of Information Act in the UK filed by a doctor there has revealed 30 years of secret official documents showing that government experts have:

1. Known the vaccines don’t work

2. Known they cause the diseases they are supposed to prevent

3. Known they are a hazard to children

4. Colluded to lie to the public

5. Worked to prevent safety studies

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Those are the same vaccines that are mandated to children in the US.

its because of idiots like you we have had a measels outbreak in the uk which has kiled children .you and anyone like you have that on your shoulders .

a guy at work believed this **** years ago and holisticlly vaccinated his son against measels.his son is now disabled after getting the virus which nearly killed him .

yes well done to all the scare mongering dick drops for doing things like this i hope it makes you proud.

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I wish they would come up with something for Arthritis,the Doc says take Ibuprofen, but if you read the small print it says it could cause Liver damage.I point this out to the Doc who says oh well take Paracetamol. Ok but that causes Kidney failure, so you can either put up with Arthritis (uncurable) ,or die of Kidney/Liver failure.Does the Medical profession really care what happens to you, or are they getting a huge salary for prescribing potential killer medicines . maybe herbal medicines are the best form of medication instead of making these drug companies rich.

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Vaccines work - full stop. They do what they say they do and an arbitrary line cannot be drawn between the 60/70's vaccines and the modern ones.

The original Polio vaccine was said by the developer to have lead to cross infection of humans by various monkey viruses which caused cancers in humans. Tough, that was the price we paid for almost eliminating polio.

I am not an advocate of the current rash of flu/ cervical cancer vaccines - purely on the basis that they are not that necessary - they are a product of an industry selling product. the simple answer is refuse them.

However I am eternally grateful for the polio vaccine, small pox vaccine, yellow fever vaccine, hepatitis vaccines and the MMR vaccine.

Apply a bit of intelligence and don't throw the baby out with the bath water because there is a vocal anti-vaccine campaign who would have us stop all vaccination programs. Dangerous idiots.

Br Cornelius

You should read the paper Br. The effectiveness of these vaccines today are in serious question. And the drug companies not only know it, but actively try to cover it up.

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The link has absolutely zero proof of the outrageous accusations you are making. All I saw was a page full of screaming conspiracy theories made by people that are seemingly immune to logic. This kind of garbage can and is dangerous when read by people that are susceptible to the fringe wackos and has and will affect the health of children when they are hit by a disease that vaccines have eradicated.

The only danger here are people who refuse to read the source of these claims, which are fact, and linked.

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Funny I only had smallpox and polio vaccines during my life, never had flu virus vaccine, never had anything. I eat unprocessed cheese, drink non pasteurized milk and drink a couple of 12 years old scotch every evening. so according to some I should be dead. 2 months ago, figuring that I'm getting towards the other side of youth, I got a complette check up, complete blood work.and guess what: no cholestero, no plaques no thyroid problems no cancer no anything... and no need for viagra. So keep taking your poison but please respect those who tell you to buzz off!

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It depresses me to see such ill-researched claptrap being swallowed hook line and sinker...

To all the "Storm"s out there, I dedicate this to you...

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Added - for anyone who finds the links 'compelling', please post your very best example - be specific and tell us what you found, and why you were 'convinced'.

After all, isn't this a discussion forum? Posting links without explanation of what you found interesting (and why) is pretty lazy.

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The only danger here are people who refuse to read the source of these claims, which are fact, and linked.

I'll ask again, where is the link to the documents?
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It's like it always is on here. You western medical fiends ,who have never touched a patient in your lives,have all the links we provide,and you still deny it ,and believe the stuff spoon fed to you,by the murders making these drugs.

Whatever works for ya .

Let's see how many I can find ,and will be credible enough for you lot .

Duh .

http://www.free-press-release.com/news-reports-of-injury-and-death-associated-with-hpv-vaccines-continue-to-rise-1291053674.html

. http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-uncovers-three-deaths-relating-hpv-vaccine/

http://www.judicialwatch.org/bulletins/gardasilhpv-vaccination-investigation/

http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/12/hpv-vaccine-gardasil-and-cervarix-vaers-reports-injury-and-death-continue-to-climb.html?cid=6a00d8357f3f2969e20148c6727454970c

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11897278

If you do not understand the significance of this,google it please .

http://www.sv40cancer.com/pap1.asp

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/03/22/rotavirus.vaccine/index.html

Maybe ask the parents of the 12 babies that died here .

http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/07/infant-deaths-disputed-in-glaxo-vaccine-trial/

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X0601111X

http://preventdisease.com/news/09/112209_21_deaths_japan_after_H1N1_vaccine.shtml

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http://drmaj.com/nagging-questions-about-safety-in-usa-japan-stops-some-vaccinations-after-deaths/

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/study-confirms-anecdotal-link-between-flu-vax-and-miscarriage/

http://www.theledger.com/article/20120218/COLUMNISTS/202185001

http://www.traditionalcats.com/education/medical/nousefipvac.htm

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501263_162-4770907-501263.html

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Here is a link to the 45 page conclution with several links to the source

http://www.ecomed.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/3-tomljenovic.pdf

Im over half way through and am horrified.

you can show them 10,000 links. They ignore them,and continue to tell you how you are wrong,and there's no proof whatsoever .

Chalk it up to them probably getting a lot of vaccinations,and it killed their cognitive functions .

What can ya,do ?

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It's like it always is on here. You western medical fiends ,who have never touched a patient in your lives,have all the links we provide,and you still deny it ,and believe the stuff spoon fed to you,by the murders making these drugs.

Whatever works for ya .

Let's see how many I can find ,and will be credible enough for you lot .

Duh .

Now this time try reading the question, where are the "secret official documents" the Freedom of Information Act released? Edited by Rlyeh
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Here is a link to the 45 page conclution with several links to the source

http://www.ecomed.or...tomljenovic.pdf

Im over half way through and am horrified.

Why are these documents dated 2011 when they were supposedly released or contained information over 30 years?

"Freedom of Information Act in the UK filed by a doctor there has revealed 30 years of secret official documents showing that government experts have"

Am I talking to myself here? Where are a copy of these secret documents?

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I dont understand the problem with finding the documents. There are several links directly to them in the 45 page over view I provided.

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I dont understand the problem with finding the documents. There are several links directly to them in the 45 page over view I provided.

SO one PHD condemning immunization is all it takes? That paper certainly doesn't say:

1. Known the vaccines don’t work

2. Known they cause the diseases they are supposed to prevent

3. Known they are a hazard to children

4. Colluded to lie to the public

5. Worked to prevent safety studies

as the OP asserted.

No one ever said that vaccines are completely harmless and people are regularly hurt by them but they have saved millions if not billions from terrible diseases and this good far outweighs the bad.

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As always ,like trying to explain it to a butternut squash .

Best to just peel ,puree ,and make soup out of it .

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As always ,like trying to explain it to a butternut squash .

Best to just peel ,puree ,and make soup out of it .

Well that pretty much ends the conversation. A butternut squash? I am quite sure I am far more intelligent than you, much better educated and have had a way more diverse life so please, don't dismiss me as a butternut squash. I agree, you should definitely avoid ALL vaccinations and even antibiotics as they are as compromised as the vaccines. Make sure all your offspring do the same. Vitamins and fluoride as well. Darwinism at work here. :yes:

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Pro- and Anti-vaccination brigaders are never going to agree.

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Pro- and Anti-vaccination brigaders are never going to agree.

Then why isn't a choice but a systematic order? Isn't that some form of dictature? When democracies makes too many rules, it's called a dictatorship. (See staline, hitler., mao, the roman ceasars, napoleon, monarchy in general etc.......... ).

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Then why isn't a choice but a systematic order? Isn't that some form of dictature? When democracies makes too many rules, it's called a dictatorship. (See staline, hitler., mao, the roman ceasars, napoleon, monarchy in general etc.......... ).

Because vaccines only work on a herd principle. Its the bargin we make to live in large cities and not have plagues killing us off at regular intervals. Some things are more important than personal choice.

Br Cornelius

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SO one PHD condemning immunization is all it takes? That paper certainly doesn't say:

1. Known the vaccines don’t work

2. Known they cause the diseases they are supposed to prevent

3. Known they are a hazard to children

4. Colluded to lie to the public

5. Worked to prevent safety studies

as the OP asserted.

No one ever said that vaccines are completely harmless and people are regularly hurt by them but they have saved millions if not billions from terrible diseases and this good far outweighs the bad.

Yes the paper proved each point throughly. With links to the Information act requested. Sorry this one isnt just like reading a quick article. If you want to know that what the OP is claiming is true, then you have at least a couple hours worth of work here. The good clearly does NOT outweigh the bad in all cases.

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Pro- and Anti-vaccination brigaders are never going to agree.

True. Even when the drug companies have more then proven a strong will to decieve.

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Yes the paper proved each point throughly. With links to the Information act requested. Sorry this one isnt just like reading a quick article. If you want to know that what the OP is claiming is true, then you have at least a couple hours worth of work here. The good clearly does NOT outweigh the bad in all cases.

Tell that to the people who didn't suffer the horrible death of smallpox or the millions who aren't crippled by Polio.

Lets make a bit more personal - tell it to the thousands of mothers who don,t have to bury their children each year because measles has all but been wiped out by the MMR vaccine.

In 2000 the WHO estimated that there were ~45 million cases of measles worldwide with 800,000 deaths from it. Mortality in developed countries is ~1/1000. In sub-Saharan Africa, mortality is 10%. In cases with complications, the rate may rise to 20–30%. In 2010, approximately 380 deaths occurred every day from measles.[31]

Even in countries where vaccination has been introduced, rates may remain high. In Ireland, vaccination was introduced in 1985. The number of cases was 99,903 in that year. Within two years, the number of cases had fallen to 201, but this fall was not sustained: case numbers in 1989, 1993 and 2000 were 1,248, 4,328 and 1,603, respectively. This country's example illustrates the need for vaccination rates greater than 95% to prevent the spread of measles.

According to the WHO, measles is a leading cause of vaccine-preventable childhood mortality. Worldwide, the fatality rate has been significantly reduced by a vaccination campaign led by partners in the Measles Initiative: the American Red Cross, the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the United Nations Foundation, UNICEF and the WHO. Globally, measles fell 60% from an estimated 873,000 deaths in 1999 to 345,000 in 2005.[9] Estimates for 2008 indicate deaths fell further to 164,000 globally, with 77% of the remaining measles deaths in 2008 occurring within the Southeast Asian region.[32]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measles#Prognosis

That fall by 60% is a direct consequence of Measles Vaccination programs. Try telling the 345,000 people who are still alive in 2005 alone due to measles vaccines, that the good doesn't outweigh the bad.

Br Cornelius

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